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Yo 'Head nailed to-da-flor'.......

I can't remember Elon having a Top Secret Clearance or serving in the U.S. Military.
And I continue to not GaS what he or anyone else believes, or doesn't believe.
But I'll give you this counter, (not the first time I've posted this in this thread):

Ben Rich was the Director of Lockheed's 'Skunk Works' and was best known for his design of the first operational stealth aircraft, which are aircraft that are undetectable by radar. According to multiple sources, “Nearly all of the programs he worked on began as top-secret project,,, that were tested at the infamous Area 51 in Nevada, focus of much UFO history.”

Ben Rich on UFO's:
"Some of them are ours, and some of them are theirs...."
"We now
(after reverse engineering crashed UFO's) have the technology to take ET home..."
And having read Zachria Stichin's books, I agree with this much of what Elon said,,,
"We are the aliens."

Also KJB - And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: Genesis 1:26-28


If I didn't already have my own Top Secret experience to go on (beginning way back in 1968), I'd take their word over the no experience and clueless Elon any day....


 
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Repost for the willing ignorant.....

More than three decades' worth of government UFO records are now yours to download and peruse, thanks to the efforts of some intrepid truth-seekers.

The massive data dump includes more than 2,700 pages of UFO-related documents declassified by the CIA since the 1980s. (The U.S. government also calls them "unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAP). According to The Black Vault — an online repository of UFO-related documents operated by author John Greenwald Jr. — the documents were obtained through a long string of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests filed over the last quarter century .

While the new data dump is significant, it's also just a drop in the bucket of The Black Vault's enormous archive. The website reportedly contains more than 2.2 million pages of UFO-related material in its archive, which Greenwald obtained through more than 10,000 FOIA

Note: 2.2 Million Pages is one hell of a lotta smoke, for anyone to believe that there's no fire....


https://www.livescience.com/cia-declassified-ufo-archives.html
 
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Ben Rich on UFO's:
"Some of them are ours, and some of them are theirs...."
"We now
(after reverse engineering crashed UFO's) have the technology to take ET home..."

Maybe under the heading of "Some of them are ours....."

 
Free Thinkers will always seem crazy to those who can't see beyond conventions.
Never apologize for evolving beyond people's comfort zones... -- Albert Einstein
 
This is an excellent vid on the life of Apollo Astronaut Collins, but if you already know who Collins is and only want the skinny on what's not told to the public, go to the 24 minute mark and listen to the last 2-3 minutes of the vid...

This man's statement about the back side of the moon lends even more credibility to Richard Hoaglan's book:
"Dark Missions: The Secret History of NASA" a New York Times bestseller about the strange history of NASA and its cover-ups regarding its origins and extraterrestrial architecture found on the moon.

 
Yep fever, and Bob told the World 35 years ago (1989) that they were reverse engineering crashed Alien craft at S-4 in Area 51.

And 20 prior to that I was having my own flying saucer encounters in the Western Pacific....
 
This is an excellent vid on the life of Apollo Astronaut Collins, but if you already know who Collins is and only want the skinny on what's not told to the public, go to the 24 minute mark and listen to the last 2-3 minutes of the vid...

This man's statement about the back side of the moon lends even more credibility to Richard Hoaglan's book:
"Dark Missions: The Secret History of NASA" a New York Times bestseller about the strange history of NASA and its cover-ups regarding its origins and extraterrestrial architecture found on the moon.


 
WoW! It looks like the goaterdud3 might be having some kind of a self-induced nervous breakdown, so everyone please pray for him in your spare time.... 🧐
 
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"The reality is, despite their enormous taxpayer-funded budget, the transparency of the defense department and the intelligence community have long been abysmal," Mace said.

Glenn Grothman (R-Wisconsin), whose subcommittee held the hearing along with Mace's, had this to add: "We cannot shy away from the unknown when the stakes are so high."Here's a look at some of the most compelling testimony that each of the four witnesses provided:


The meeting will discuss the topic of UFOs, and is the second congressional hearing that Congress has held in order to "further pull back the curtain on secret UAP research programs conducted by the US government, and undisclosed findings they have yielded", according to a House statement.

Watch Full Hearings Here: https://www.fox5dc.com/video/1547396
 
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2023 - Crashed UFO's with non-human pilots.

“The sheer number of reports, whistleblowers and stories of unidentified anomalous phenomena should raise real questions and warrant investigation and oversight. And that’s why we are here today,” Rep. Robert Garcia, the top Democrat on the subcommittee, said in his opening statement. "UAPs, whatever they may be, may pose a serious threat to our military or civilian aircraft. And that must be understood."

Here are five of the witnesses' main claims from the hearing:

1. Government is ‘absolutely’ in possession of UAPs

2. Nonhuman biologics’ were found at a crash site.
3. Officials must establish a 'safe and transparent reporting process'
4. Stigma associated with sightings 'silences' possible witnesses.
5. UFO spotted accelerating to 'supersonic speeds'

Get the details at the link to the Congressional hearings:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/are-5-memorable-moments-congress-ufo-hearing-rcna96476

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2024 - Congressional UFO Hearing Features Eye-Opening UAP Claims

Witness sworn testimony included eyebrow-raising claims about the existence of UAPs and alien technology on Earth.

The hearing aimed “to further pull back the curtain on secret UAP research programs conducted by the United States government, and undisclosed findings they have yielded.” The four witnesses were retired U.S. Navy Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet, former Department of Defense official Luis Elizondo, NASA UAP independent study team member Michael Gold and journalist Michael Shellenberger.

The four witnesses at the congressional UAP hearing provided written testimonies. Here are some of the highlights.

Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet accused “elements of the government” of engaging in a disinformation campaign designed to discredit UAP whistleblowers, “a new realization that we are not the only advanced intelligence in the universe."

“We know we see them in the water too,” Gallaudet said. “The last example that I saw was from the USS Omaha off Southern California — a well known video that Jeremy Corbell, one of the UAP media types —has gotten out there and so. And there's other examples too, classified examples I can't talk about, but confirmation that we see these things underwater.“


Luis Elizondo’s testimony was even more direct. The former DOD official claimed the U.S. and some of its adversaries are in possession of UAP technologies. For years, Elizondo, a former counterintelligence officer, has claimed that the government is hiding intelligence about UAPs from the public. Elizondo testified that the U.S. government recovered four “deceased nonhuman bodies” from the 1947 crash in Roswell, New Mexico."

Michael Gold is a former NASA administrator focused on space policy.

Without data, nothing can be achieved,” he wrote. “This is why the stigmatization of the UAP phenomena is so harmful. The stigma prevents scientific inquiry, the best tool that we have to understand anomalies, from being fully applied.” (Pretty wild, coming from a Never A Straight Answer guy)

Michael Shellenberer’s extensive written sworn testimony accused the government of not being transparent about UFOs. He revisited statements made by others, including former military intelligence official David Grusch, who claimed the U.S. government has retrieved alien spacecraft. “We deserve the truth,” he wrote. Shellenberger is expected to discuss the "Immaculate Constellation" program that appeared in a leaked whistleblower report last month that alleges "the Executive Branch (Shadow Govt) has been managing UAP/NHI issues without Congressional knowledge, oversight, or authorization for some time, quite possibly decades.”

From the iG: Claims of 'No Proof' are 'Total BS' when you understand that the proof is there in great abundance and it's being hidden and/or covered up, as it has been since at least 1947 Roswell.... I knew in 1968. Bob Lazar told the world in 1989, and the released F-18 gun-camera footage showed you in 2017. So WTF-UP.

 
@instaGATOR I had my eye up to the stars and saw one in NM. I can't say if it was ours or theirs but I saw what looked like a planetary conjunction. Two bright stars very close.. went back to flipping burgers and wondered why my stargazer app hadn't notified me about a conjunction. Went back to looking closely and for the next few minutes watched as the 'planets' closed the gap. How could that be, conjunctions don't move that fast.. kept watching and looked for navigation lights.. none. Kept looking and wondering what it was, no nav lights, planet bright, very high... and then with my eyes on.. POOF.. shot off into the depths of space.
 
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@instaGATOR I had my eye up to the stars and saw one in NM. I can't say if it was ours or theirs but I saw what looked like a planetary conjunction. Two bright stars very close.. went back to flipping burgers and wondered why my stargazer app hadn't notified me about a conjunction. Went back to looking closely and for the next few minutes watched as the 'planets' closed the gap. How could that be, conjunctions don't move that fast.. kept watching and looked for navigation lights.. none. Kept looking and wondering what it was, no nav lights, planet bright, very high... and then with my eyes on.. POOF.. shot off into the depths of space.
Probably just a weather balloon lit up by the swamp gas....
Jus-kiddin sg.

With no 'reasonable' explanation for that kind of thing, you've likely seen them, but without any further proof, it was another UFO/UAP....
But keep on watching anyway, because they are out there for sure imoho....
 
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Web Bot created in 2009, predicted UFO war to start on Dec 3, 2024 to go for 39 days! UAP Sighting News.

https://www.ufosightingsdaily.com/2024/12/web-bot-created-in-2009-predicted-ufo.html

Guys, it looks like Web Bot predicted the UFOs (US Gov calls drones) over US bases in England and New Jersey and other states.
Scott C. Waring

Key Points

  1. Prediction of War: Clif High's internet model predicts a months-long war between humans and aliens starting on December 3.
  2. Trigger Event: The "temporal marker" for this prediction was Joe Rogan's interview with Donald Trump on October 25.
  3. Timeline: High claims 39 days after the marker will bring "visible contention," possibly combat in the skies.
  4. Nature of Conflict: The confrontation involves UFOs fighting each other or UFOs battling human jets, leading to melee.
  5. Prediction Model: The Web Bot program uses internet keyword tracking to predict future events by analyzing online content like blogs and forums.
Source: https://www.newsweek.com/futurist-aliens-prediction-december-3-war-1994853
A futurist's internet program that predicted the start of a months long war between humans and aliens on December 3 has gone viral online. Clif High, a computer scientist and linguist, spoke in a YouTube video about his model's prediction, known as the "39 days to melee," that said a battle between humans and aliens in the sky would occur 39 days after a trigger incited the incident. What High calls the "temporal marker" was podcaster Joe Rogan's interview with President-elect Donald Trump on October 25.

High said: "So we're going to have these...some kind of weird confrontation visible contention which we could probably call and term combat in the skies that will show up and it'll show up at a predictable point, which is probably something over a month—and we'll put down 30 days or 39 days something—over a month after the temporal marker of, um, Trump and Rogan. And that's just the beginning of all of this, right."

High's model predicts that "there will be 39 days between the temporal marker of Trump's interview and the appearance of this visible contention," which he said would eventually lead to melee. In this instance, the "visible contention" would be with space aliens or "alien reproduction vehicles."

The descriptors his model tracked in 2009 indicated that the visible contention would be UFOs fighting other UFOs or UFOs fighting jets. High predicted that on December 3, visible contention between humans and aliens would begin, eventually ending in melee after an unspecified period.

His prediction model, the Web Bot, is a computer program that allows individuals to predict future events by tracking keywords on the internet. It monitors internet chatter, including articles, blogs, forums, and more.

at 12/12/2024 01:23:00 AM

UFO sighting drones, new jersey drones, new jersey UAPs, new jersey UFOs, UAP,
UFO
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I've no idea about any of that, but I found it mildly interesting anyway.....
 
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I haven’t read through all 35 pages of posts, so SIAP. But, as an engineer, I find it impossible that there are objects flying that fast because… where are the sonic booms? It’s physically impossible for an object in our atmosphere flying faster than the speed of sound to do that silently.

So I’d guess these phenomena are done with some type of optics (lasers, holograms, or some other technology) or are related to another dimension, i.e., spiritual in nature. There’s some very interesting research pointing to these being demonic.
 
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Demonic is a word to describe behavior or people who are extremely evil or cruel. It helps to understand this word if you know a demon is a creature of hell. Demonic has that same kind of hellish, diabolical, fiendish, infernal, satanic, unholy quality.

Show interesting research or a link to same.

For now, not enough information to make that kind of a claim imoho...
 
Demonic is a word to describe behavior or people who are extremely evil or cruel. It helps to understand this word if you know a demon is a creature of hell. Demonic has that same kind of hellish, diabolical, fiendish, infernal, satanic, unholy quality.

Show interesting research or a link to same.

For now, not enough information to make that kind of a claim imoho...
Demons are the spirits of dead Nephilim. Nephilim are the offspring of fallen angels and human women.

Implications of them petitioning Christ not to send them the abyss but into swine?

I am sure you have heard of L.A. Marzulli.
 
Demonic is a word to describe behavior or people who are extremely evil or cruel. It helps to understand this word if you know a demon is a creature of hell. Demonic has that same kind of hellish, diabolical, fiendish, infernal, satanic, unholy quality.

Show interesting research or a link to same.

For now, not enough information to make that kind of a claim imoho...
Not really making that claim Insta. Just do a YouTube search for “are UFOs demons” and you’ll see several interviews of different people who have studied this.
 
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Demons are the spirits of dead Nephilim. Nephilim are the offspring of fallen angels and human women.

Implications of them petitioning Christ not to send them the abyss but into swine?

I am sure you have heard of L.A. Marzulli.
Nope, I've never heard of L.A. Marzulli and I can't say that I have any interest in finding out about him.

"Rebuke first,,, ask questions later." -- Marzulli
At first glance, it looks to me like he sells a lot of 'fear based' books for a lot of money.
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I'm more of a Zecharia Stichin (an author of a number of books proposing an explanation for human origins involving ancient astronauts) kind of guy.

Sitchin, through his translations of ancient Sumerian cuneiform writings, attributed the creation of the ancient Sumerian culture to the Anunnaki, which he claimed 'using those translations,' was a race of extraterrestrials from a planet beyond Neptune called Nibiru. (see JPL for planets possible discovery)

One of the few scholars able to read and interpret ancient Sumerian and Akkadian clay tablets, Zecharia Sitchin (1920-2010) based his bestselling The 12th Planet on texts from the ancient civilizations of the Near East. Drawing both widespread interest and criticism, his theories on the Anunnaki origins of humanity have been translated into more than 20 languages and featured on radio and television programs around the world.

The 12th Planet
The Stairway to Heaven
The Wars of Gods and Men
The Lost Realms
When Time Began
The Cosmic Code
The End Days
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Genesis Revisited
Divine Encounters
The Earth Chronicles Handbook
There Were Giants Upon the Earth
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And there are other works of his available....

This is another one of those 'each to his own' things on this subject....
 
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Nope, I've never heard of L.A. Marzulli and I can't say that I have any interest in finding out about him.

"Rebuke first,,, ask questions later." -- Marzulli
At first glance, it looks to me like he sells a lot of 'fear based' books for a lot of money.
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I'm more of Zecharia Stichin (an author of a number of books proposing an explanation for human origins involving ancient astronauts) kind of guy.

Sitchin, through his translations of ancient Sumerian cuneiform writings, attributed the creation of the ancient Sumerian culture to the Anunnaki, which he claimed 'using those translations,' was a race of extraterrestrials from a planet beyond Neptune called Nibiru. (see JPL for planets possible discovery)

One of the few scholars able to read and interpret ancient Sumerian and Akkadian clay tablets, Zecharia Sitchin (1920-2010) based his bestselling The 12th Planet on texts from the ancient civilizations of the Near East. Drawing both widespread interest and criticism, his theories on the Anunnaki origins of humanity have been translated into more than 20 languages and featured on radio and television programs around the world.

The 12th Planet
The Stairway to Heaven
The Wars of Gods and Men
The Lost Realms
When Time Began
The Cosmic Code
The End Days
-----
Genesis Revisited
Divine Encounters
The Earth Chronicles Handbook
There Were Giants Upon the Earth
-----
And there are other works of his available....

This is another one of those 'each to his own' things on this subject....
I think you would find Marzulli fascinating even if you don't agree with his conclusions. Supposedly he had a Doctor remove an alien tracking device from a victims body. It was very tiny and actively resisted removal. The doctor did not believe in ETs.

As for Sitchin its claimed that he mistranslated much of the Sumerian texts to fit his agenda. I don't speak or read Sumerian so I cant verify.

When I was a kid I found Erich Von Daniken interesting. I also watched Project Blue Book and In Search Of. I used to listen to Art Bell.

Do I believe any of that stuff? NO! Its fanciful and entertaining.

Now why did Wellington fight at Waterloo? Out of a googolplex + of planets what makes Earth special? How would "aliens" find this spec of sand in an "infinite" universe? My answer to that one is they have not. Then who is responsible for the manifestations if real?

Why did the empire strike Hoth?

Why does God concern himself with this one planet? I suggest that answer is found in the other questions.
 
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