Tucker showing 6 Jan hoax

[BamaFan1137]

Would you need to show 5 mins of you in a store, if you stole in last 30 seconds? I don't get your logic. That would be 4mins and 30 secs of wasting people time.

The video would need to include the violation of the criminal code you were charged with.

In the specific example that you're asking about, if we're getting pedantic, that would include the moment that you picked up the item(s) that you stole through the time you left the store (or passed the point of purchase in some states) without paying for it. It probably would be a great idea to also show video that had a clear image of your face (typically the camera at the entrance door).

So, in our case here, if you're going to say that entering the building was a crime, and the way a person behaved once inside was a crime, showing video of both seems a reasonable standard.

However, a judge is a king in his court. He gets to decide...until and unless he is overruled by a higher court.

 

[RayGravesGhost]

The video would need to include the violation of the criminal code you were charged with.


So, in our case here, if you're going to say that entering the building was a crime, and the way a person behaved once inside was a crime, showing video of both seems a reasonable standard.

THAT is EXACTLY what has been occurring with the Jan 6 video

However, a judge is a king in his court. He gets to decide...until and unless he is overruled by a higher court.

They have her on video entering the building, assaulting law enforcement...they even took her tambourine

She wanted all 44,000 hours of video for what?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-nypd-officer-carried-tambourine-231725986.html

Former NYPD officer who carried tambourine on Jan. 6 convicted after prosecutors said she shoved, slapped officers during riot​

Erin Snodgrass
Mon, March 13, 2023 at 7:17 PM EDT

 

[kalimgoodman]

The video would need to include the violation of the criminal code you were charged with.

In the specific example that you're asking about, if we're getting pedantic, that would include the moment that you picked up the item(s) that you stole through the time you left the store (or passed the point of purchase in some states) without paying for it. It probably would be a great idea to also show video that had a clear image of your face (typically the camera at the entrance door).

So, in our case here, if you're going to say that entering the building was a crime, and the way a person behaved once inside was a crime, showing video of both seems a reasonable standard.

However, a judge is a king in his court. He gets to decide...until and unless he is overruled by a higher court.

Not completely accurate. You only have to turn over evidence that could potentially exonerate the defendant. It would be a Brady violation

 

[NavigatorII]

Not completely accurate. You only have to turn over evidence that could potentially exonerate the defendant. It would be a Brady violation

Isn't that exactly what happened here? I'm not a criminal lawyer, just asking.

 

[fatman76]

Is Lil Dickey, AKA lil Ray Ray still in the house? I thought ya'll sent in Pest Raiders a couple of days ago, Can we tent the forum and fumigate it? 😂

Yes, the shitposting is alive and well.

 

[RayGravesGhost]

The prosecution has turned over all of the evidence they have related to any defendant

The prosecutors only have 14,000 hours of footage...the other roughly 30,000 hours of footage is not in their possession...its "owned" by the House of Representatives which is why Kevin McCarthy has control over who can see it. Its also why prosecutors are telling you the truth that they don't know what's on the additional House footage

The prosecutors aren't holding on to potentially exculpatory evidence...they don't even have it. McCarthy does.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Not completely accurate. You only have to turn over evidence that could potentially exonerate the defendant. It would be a Brady violation

Correct...like perhaps the defendant could have potentially put down the alleged stolen item while walking through the store in the portion of the video that was cut out.

I'm correct. I know this from actual real life experience...not from watching Law and Order.

 

[NavigatorII]

Correct...like perhaps the defendant could have potentially put down the alleged stolen item while walking through the store in the portion of the video that was cut out.

I'm correct. I know this from actual real life experience...not from watching Law and Order.

But but but...........Perry Kalim Mason is on the case!!

 

[kalimgoodman]

Correct...like perhaps the defendant could have potentially put down the alleged stolen item while walking through the store in the portion of the video that was cut out.

I'm correct. I know this from actual real life experience...not from watching Law and Order.

What? I'm saying if you stole the item and clearly walked out with it. It's not stealing until you leave the store.

All a prosecutor needs to do is show that you left the store with the item. So walking around with it for 4mins is irrelevant.

So not giving the defense the entire video would not be a violation because it wouldn't show innocence.

At the same time I understand where you are coming from. I don't think that the shaman entire video would help him because he plead guilty to obstructing an official proceeding. He clearly was in the white house obstructing the proceeding.

 

[Mdfgator]

The DUMBEST troll ever is back!

Not a fan of rioting at all. Lock them up.

 

[BamaFan1137]

All a prosecutor needs to do is show that you left the store with the item. So walking around with it for 4mins is irrelevant.

OK....I tried.

FTR I have actually had cases exactly like the one we're discussing. It wasn't an accident that I used it as an example.

Ironically, if the video doesn't exist, you don't need it. Crazy, right?

 

[gatordad3]

But but but...........Perry Kalim Mason is on the case!!

With his researches that end up from CNN.

 

[EvilWayz]

What? I'm saying if you stole the item and clearly walked out with it. It's not stealing until you leave the store.

Pedantics activated!

It's not shoplifting until you pass the point of sale or attempt to move a concealed item past the point of sale. Once you pass the cash register you have violated the statute.

 

[RayGravesGhost]

The woman in the actual case has been convicted and you all are debating imaginary shoplifting charges? 🤣

 

[NavigatorII]

 

[BSC911]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kevin-mccarthy-struggles-respond-asked-114151171.html

Kevin McCarthy struggles to respond when asked 'what have we learned' about the Capitol riots after his release of the Jan. 6 tapes​

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• House Speaker Kevin McCarthy defended releasing Jan. 6 footage to Tucker Carlson.
• The Fox News host has used the footage to downplay the violence of the riot.
• Republicans and Democrats have criticised the release of the footage.

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy deflected when asked what new information was revealed about the Capitol riots by the stash of tapes he had given to Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

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True, but the Fox Fools have obviously taken the bait. And of course that was the main intention, to help boost their ratings.

 

[kjfreeze]

Not sure if this was already shown here, but here it is anyway:

 

[GatorTheo]

Have any democrat heads rolled yet?

 

[RayGravesGhost]

If this was a Walgreens security video the trumpers would be screaming to prosecute them all

 

[NavigatorII]

Not sure if this was already shown here, but here it is anyway:

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Last call for alcohol!!! 😂

 

[RayGravesGhost]

Sadly some of your favorite trump insurrectionists won't be able to attend happy hour

https://www.yahoo.com/news/doj-told-court-expect-deluge-211426751.html
DOJ Told Court to Expect a Deluge of New Jan. 6 Prosecutions
Wed, March 15, 2023 at 5:14 PM EDT·3 min read


(Bloomberg) -- More than 1,000 additional people could still face charges in connection with the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the US Capitol, according to a letter to the DC federal court from the US attorney in Washington

The Oct. 28 letter from US Attorney Matthew Graves to Chief Judge Beryl Howell, which came as the department neared its 900th arrest, estimated an additional 700 to 1,200 defendants. That could roughly double the number of cases filed so far – with this month marking the 1,000th arrest, according to statistics from the US attorney’s office.

The more than 1,000 people already charged have clogged the court’s docket over the past two years. And prosecutors continue to bring new cases as Special Counsel Jack Smith pursues a separate probe into efforts by former President Donald Trump and his allies to undermine the 2020 election results.

 

[gatordad3]

I just can't remember who said this to The Nasty Pelosi.

"You go girl"

 

[BSC911]

Another FBI plant gets sent up the River. Amirite @fatman76 ?

Jan. 6 rioter who was accused of urging mob to steal police guns scheduled to be sentenced — NBC News

The sister and family members of Sam Lazar, were spotted Friday in the courthouse.

apple.news

 

[EvilWayz]

Another FBI plant gets sent up the River. Amirite @fatman76 ?

What was the original argument?

 

[BSC911]

What was the original argument?

That The Jan 6 riots were all orchestrated by FBI plants.

 

[EvilWayz]

That The Jan 6 riots were all orchestrated by FBI plants.

I don't see how there would be any way of proving that if it were true.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Isn't that exactly what happened here? I'm not a criminal lawyer, just asking.

Wait, someone is actually reading @kalimgoodman posts and taking them seriously???

 

[RayGravesGhost]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/capitol-police-were-not-told-223143347.html
Capitol Police were not told Republicans would turn Jan. 6 footage over to Tucker Carlson

WASHINGTON — U.S. Capitol Police officials were not told that the surveillance video of the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, which they gave to House Republicans, would be passed on to Fox News host Tucker Carlson, the department's top lawyer said in a sworn court filing.

In a declaration filed Friday in Washington federal court, Capitol Police general counsel Thomas DiBiase said police found out from a media report on Feb. 20 that Carlson's staff were reviewing thousands of hours of footage from the day of the riot that had not been made public at the time.

Carlson aired dozens of clips on his Fox News show this month. He said on his show: "We do take security seriously, so before airing any of this video we checked first with the Capitol Police. We’re happy to say the reservations were minor and for the most part, they were reasonable. In the end, the only change that we made was in blurring the details of a single interior door in the Capitol building."

In his declaration, DiBiase said out of the numerous clips that were broadcast on Carlson's show March 6 and 7, he was only shown one clip before it aired. DiBiase said that clip was from a list of locations that had been designated "sensitive" and he approved its use.

“The other approximately 40 clips, which were not from the Sensitive List, were never shown to me nor anyone else from the Capitol Police," DiBiase said.

 

[RayGravesGhost]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-gop-ignored-capitol-police-170555515.html
House GOP ignored Capitol Police requests to review public Jan. 6 footage, lawyer says
Kyle Cheney and Jordain Carney
Fri, March 17, 2023 at 1:05 PM EDT·6 min read


House Republicans ignored the Capitol Police’s repeated requests to review and approve all Jan. 6 security footage they planned to release publicly, the force’s top lawyer asserted in a sworn affidavit filed Friday.

A GOP committee aide, asked about the statements in the affidavit, noted that the Republicans asked the Capitol Police for a list of security sensitive cameras “to ensure anything on the list requested by Tucker was approved by USCP, which we did.”

The aide added that Capitol Police “told us they had no concern with what was released,” but didn’t immediately respond to follow up questions about if that comment came before or after the footage aired on Fox, and if it applied to both the clip Capitol Police was able to review and those that they say they weren’t.

DiBiase emphasized that in “numerous conversations” over “several weeks,” he informed Monahan that the Capitol Police wanted “to review every footage clip, whether it was on the Sensitive List or not, if it was going to be made public.” The Jan. 6 select committee had gone through that process with the department “in all cases,” DiBiase said, as had federal prosecutors pursuing cases against hundreds of Capitol riot defendants.

 

[gatordad3]

DiBiase emphasized that in “numerous conversations” over “several weeks,” he informed Monahan that the Capitol Police wanted “to review every footage clip, whether it was on the Sensitive List or not, if it was going to be made public.” The Jan. 6 select committee had gone through that process with the department “in all cases,” DiBiase

 

[nail1988]

@Sunburnt Indian

Sunny

two tiered justice system

 

[NavigatorII]

@Sunburnt Indian

Sunny

two tiered justice system

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Yahoo rejected my comment this week when I pointed out SPLC was a domestic terrorist org. 😂

 

[EvilWayz]

Yahoo rejected my comment this week when I pointed out SPLC was a domestic terrorist org. 😂

Sad thing is ADL is becoming one.

 

[NavigatorII]

Sad thing is ADL is becoming one.

They've become what they hate most. Nazis!

 

[nail1988]

@RayGravesGhost

 

[BamaFan1137]

@RayGravesGhost

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I cannot put into words how much that pisses me off.

 

[RayGravesGhost]

@RayGravesGhost

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I can think of one prosecution related to this

 

[BamaFan1137]

I can think of one prosecution related to this

People like you pretend to care about law enforcement from J6. But apparently you ONLY care about them for that one day.

You're a disgusting human being.

 

[EvilWayz]

I can think of one prosecution related to this

At some point, you need to decide if you support law enforcement or they are a bunch of racists who kill black people for fun.

 

[RayGravesGhost]

People like you pretend to care about law enforcement from J6. But apparently you ONLY care about them for that one day.

You're a disgusting human being.

Says the guy defending a cop who's been convicted of murder

Your Christian faith comes shining thru...