While any of those things COULD do a lot of damage, none of them are designed specifically to do so.
There a reason people with bad intents prefer firearms.
The Great Gun Nut debate thread, or Won't Someone Please Think Of The Children! versus From My Cold Dead Hands
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There a reason people with bad intents prefer firearms.
OHHHHH...so since it was DESIGNED to do damage...it makes it dangerous? You avoided my challenge on the other post. You CANNOT defend your stance. I KNEW you could not. So go outside and practice falling down...you need the practice coming here with your BS.
A gun was designed to fire a projectile.
So is a nail gun, or as we learned in No Country for Old Men, a captive bolt stunner. Which was designed to kill cattle, but works fine for people apparently.
There are people, including Olympic athletes who have never used a gun for anything but punching holes in paper. Those guns usually include the word target in the model name and have grips and triggers that are designed for the sole purpose of precision shooting and would be almost useless for trying to injure a person with.
Dick Cheneys hunting buddy would tell you that a shotgun meant for waterfowl isn't something that will kill you even though you don't want to step in front of one.
My pistols aren't designed for killing people, that's just what I have them for.
It's about intent. Sure, bad guys pick firearms because they're easy to use.
So do the disabled, the elderly, a large number of women and anyone of slight build. A gun is a hell of an equalizer if you're willing to pull the trigger.
A garden weasel was designed to quickly tear up weeds and aerate soil but if you don't think I could kill someone ask any of my neighbors why we don't have a possum problem anymore.
It's also proof that the universe hates everyone around you. 😂🤣😂
I'm sure that's of great comfort for the guy who has a wood axe buried in his melon.
...or the American Airlines pilot murdered by the box cutter, or the countless gambling addicts beaten to death by baseball bats, or the abused wife murdered with a steak knife, or the abusive husband put to death with a frying pan or the boiling grease within it, or the cheating husband ran over by the minivan.
I'm sorry that we cannot agree on this subject but the absence of logic in your argument is astonishing.
Ahh, the standard gun nut red herrings.
Guns aren't a problem because someone got killed with an ax.
Cancer's not a problem because someone died from pneumonia.
When you're willing to admit WHO the problem is, we can have a dialogue.
Spoiler alert: It's not legal gun owners.
So it's confirmed, I am a gun nut? 😂
I bought my first gun when I was 27. I owned only that single gun for the next 17 years. I'm a gun nut...I've been infected!
No, that wasn't really the point.
I'm asking why does it matter if something was or was not designed to kill you if in fact it has killed you?
Do you think bombs should be treated any differently than chicken? I mean, you can die from bad chicken so what's the difference?
Guns are killing machines by design. You guys want to dance around that because you're obsessed with defending guns.
Y'all need to just quit trying to 'logically' defend guns. That's the 'nut' part.
Just say you love guns and you don't care about the damage they do.
Guns are an inanimate object. What would be the point of that?
If I didn't care what damage guns did, I'd use mine to drill holes and open beer cans.
Had your coffee this morning?
That's the dumbest false equivalency I've ever seen.
You all think that, because I correctly recognize the problems caused by firearms, I must be soft on criminals.
This is the first time you've mentioned them.
Now explain how limiting the amount of guns I have helps you. After all, I only need one to kill you.
You want to disarm gun nuts not because they're dangerous, not because they commit gun violence, but because they have guns and you don't like guns or gun nuts.
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I want to severely reduce the number of guns floating around our country. You're part of Team America and I'm sure you will happily participate.
And this is my coffee time. Farting around on the internet and avoiding anything productive.
I thought perhaps he was going to equivocate "a chicken in every pot" to the guarantees of the Bill of Rights.
That would have made more sense. Then again, I'm one of those nuts who loves logic. Logic > emotion imho...but again, I'm crazy.
Incorrect. I think your solution to the problem doesn't address the actual problem itself.
I've shown you where Russia has the exact laws that you're claiming we should have, yet they have a murder rate twice as high as our own. You've chosen to ignore that. I guess it's logic and we know how you hate that crap.
That's because you're blind to the gun problem.
Just like the extreme left is blind to the criminal problem.
I'm not blind to it Theo, I just don't agree with you. That is a difference with distinction.
I think your solution exacerbates the issue by disarming the law-abiding public. Or at least that is your goal. Truth be known, your solution wouldn't even be able to accomplish that. It would merely criminalize behavior for that law-abiding public.
That is idiotic and you know it.
If you don't reduce the number of guns from the people who use them to commit gun violence then you aren't doing anything to solve the alleged problem.
My conclusion is the only one that makes sense.
IF:
Guns are dangerous
AND
Gun Nuts are crazy and have too many dangerous things
THEN
It follows that gun nuts shouldn't have ANY guns, not fewer.
Don't get it twisted, I'm on Team Wolf.
My solution doesn't disarm the law abiding public but, no matter how many times I say that, you guys don't grasp it.
The population of the United States of America is 350 million people.
According to the most ridiculous estimate there 50,000 gun related deaths.
2/3 of those are suicides but for the purposes of this exercise I'm going to let you have all of them.
There are 81 million legal gun owners, in possession of slightly less than 400 million firearms and 7 trillion rounds of ammunition.
I never was too good at math but my handy dandy calculator says that's 1/1000th of a percent.
Even if ever one of those deaths was caused by a legal gun owner, that's 6/1000th of a percent of total legal gun owners.
There is no gun problem, only problematic people with guns, and unless you have a time machine or a magic wand, the "problem" of "there's too many guns in this country" is not one with a solution.
Your nuttiness comes from the way you all try to 'logically' defend guns.
I don't expect many of you to actually do crazy things with your guns.
DISARM (verb): take a weapon or weapons away from (a person, force, or country)
It's not total disarmament, still disarmament.
Still managed to dodge my question of how me having 2 dangerous objects vice 4 fixes anything.
At least Beto o Rourke was honest. You just dance.
You are literally arguing with feels and snark. You ain't produced a fact or a statistic yet.
They have your gun laws in place. Why isn’t that stopping murder? Why isn’t it even slowing it down? Why is it twice as bad there?
It's a hole in your theory and that's why you don't wish to discuss it.
Greenland is pretty stable. You aren't allowed to own pistols or semiautomatic rifles. They have a murder rate slightly higher than our own. How is that possible?
Incrementalism...that's his angle. Nothing else makes any sense whatsoever.
If his issue was knives and he said that we should outlaw the silver ones, that solution would make as much sense as his proposal here.
I disagree about the definition. If you have arms, you haven't been disarmed.
If you have arms, your right to bear arms hasn't been infringed.
We have seen over the last 14 years that the DEMS/LIBS/INDEPENDENTS/RINOS love them some criminals. Taking guns away from the legal gun owners only benefits the criminals. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT.
ORLY.
“If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun."
-- The Dalai Lama XIV
I am talking about the so called "independents" on here who defend Biden and the DEMS on a daily basis.
And when we allow ourselves to have more guns that people, that's going to be a recurring problem.
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