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Speaker Johnson releases the Jan 6th tapes

Now you are deflecting to what is happening in Ireland? Seriously? Over 500 destructive protests in less than a year across our countries and you are talking about Ireland. Wow. BLM and Antifa burn police stations, police cars, assault police officers and this is what you come up with? Are you okay with their actions?
Libs don't care. As long as it serves their politics, they love it. That's why they defend the perverts and attack Christians.
 
Now you are deflecting to what is happening in Ireland? Seriously? Over 500 destructive protests in less than a year across our country and you are talking about Ireland. Wow. BLM and Antifa burn police stations, police cars, assault police officers and this is what you come up with? Are you okay with their actions?
Deflecting?
 
They don’t stand with any branch that they feel doesn’t protect their interests, just like the idiots on the Left that cannot follow the law
That seems a rather broad brush don't you think?

Further, why would one feel obligated to support a branch of law enforcement that doesn't do their job, even if it's by their personal standards?
 
That seems a rather broad brush don't you think?

Further, why would one feel obligated to support a branch of law enforcement that doesn't do their job, even if it's by their personal standards?
They are doing their job, you simply don’t like who they are doing it to It’s better to look in the mirror and realize that you are missing it. The jan 6th idiots are not friends of the USA.
 
I loved the dukes of hazard but I don’t see boss Hogg in our fbi. Maybe a roscoe or two…

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The problem is, the left doesn't care. They don't care that people are having their Constitutional rights trampled on, they don't believe in the Constitution anyway.

We are two different countries right now. Figuratively, but I fear if the left attempts to steal another election, we will be there literally.

Maybe it would be best for all. Then both sides could be forced to live under the policies they support. Might be a bit of a wake up call.

For some.
 
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Horseschite....now means now. There's no debate to be had.

In that type of situation you do exactly as your told, when you're told, or you will be helped to do it.

Example...

"Leave now!"

"I am leaving!" (never moves, continues conversation)

This is called passive resistance and we see it constantly. And yes, LE and others are often hurt due to passive resistance being tolerated.
 
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Horseschite....now means now. There's no debate to be had.

In that type of situation you do exactly as your told, when you're told, or you will be helped to do it.

Example...

"Leave now!"

"I am leaving!" (never moves, continues conversation)

This is called passive resistance and we see it constantly. And yes, LE and others are often hurt due to passive resistance being tolerated.
Guy in the lower right of the frame is clearly belligerent and starts a physical altercation…that leads to skulls being cracked.

It only takes one…
 
Guy in the lower right of the frame is clearly belligerent and starts a physical altercation…that leads to skulls being cracked.

It only takes one…

And even if a person thinks they are in the right and the cop is wrong, that's not the time or place to settle it. That comes later in court or if the incident won't be a court issue, in his Sheriff's or Chief's office later on.

Those officers were clearly ordered to clear that area. Slow walking (or not walking at all) ain't going to work.

We either believe in law and order or we don't. And if you're there to protest against the way votes were counted, I can assure you the officer in front of you wasn't doing the counting.
 
And even if a person thinks they are in the right and the cop is wrong, that's not the time or place to settle it. That comes later in court or if the incident won't be a court issue, in his Sheriff's or Chief's office later on.

Those officers were clearly ordered to clear that area. Slow walking (or not walking at all) ain't going to work.

We either believe in law and order or we don't. And if you're there to protest against the way votes were counted, I can assure you the officer in front of you wasn't doing the counting.
This is an interesting take. It seems you are assuming that the guy's actions, regardless of what prompted them, were wrong. Fine.

But, you also seem to be assuming from that exchange that the cops did nothing wrong, they were simply telling the crowd to disperse, and a few people took it upon themselves to disobey clear orders.

Thus leading to your 'we either believe in law and order or we don't' admonishment.

As I said, an interesting take. What I've seen from the videos shows me very little law and very little order happened on Jan 6th.

And IMO we are several orders removed from the possibility that maybe this was one cop acting irresponsibly so if this guy thought something was wrong he leaves quietly then he can challenge later. What we now know is that there was a COORDINATED efforts by police on the scene to provoke a violent response from attendees.

I'm not sure the standard 'you keep your mouth shut and fight it later if need be' and 'we either believe in law and order or we don't' rules apply.

Jan 6th was uncharted waters, unfortunately.
 
I'm not sure the standard 'you keep your mouth shut and fight it later if need be' and 'we either believe in law and order or we don't' rules apply.

Jan 6th was uncharted waters, unfortunately.
It's simple. Can't win, don't play.

In addition to the fact that fighting people who have the authority if not the right to shoot you when unarmed is always a losing battle, the courts almost never come down on the side of someone resisting with violence.


It was explained to me thusly:

"If the cops decide they're going to arrest me, I might as well let them, I'm not fixing to fight 4 or 5 *expletive* police and hope the crowd joins in. I'm going to let them, and if they don't do it exactly how they s'posed to I'm going to get paid, and if they kill me my momma will get paid, especially when everybody got a camera in they (their) phone. "

In addition to close circuit surveillance within the Capitol, there were any number of cameras operated by both press, staff and protesters.

This seems like the best way to go about it.

I haven't gone over the video of the less than lethal munitions use yet. My thoughts on that is if it started before or after the "incursion" into the main building or the one that precipitated the shooting of Ashley Babbit.

I use quotations because going into a building where the magnetically locked doors have been conveniently opened for you is an incursion only because they weren't authorized to be in there.
 
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