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Speaker Johnson releases the Jan 6th tapes

Attack the messenger when you can't attack the message?

His particular sexual proclivities and pet conspiracy theories have nothing to do with the fact that we the people have been sold a completely different idea of what occurred on January 6th than what actually transpired, and the video evidence he released seems to have angered all the people doing the selling, no?
Maybe there is a lot of footage to go through. I see you’re not pro law enforcement either? I stand with our man and woman that protect us.
 
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Why is Jack Smith SO hot an heavy to get a conviction? He should follow the case to where the evidence and law take him - no more.

Good for Speaker Johnson in releasing them.

Transparency in these matters is rarely the wrong policy.
I am glad they were released, of course I have more faith in law enforcement than you or the others do, you really think the fbi and doj didn’t watch the tapes?? The release what she’d any light on the issue it will serve to reinforce opinions already in place, there are over 64k hours of tape. Lots of bits will be released to the various sheep flocks to give them what they already believe. This isn’t curative at all.
 
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Lol, I think the guys a complete retard. Complete. I think people that support him are complete retards. How’s that.
That's a rapid departure from your original stance of "maybe we should watch all the tapes. "

Again, who brings the message is not as important as the message itself. He's clearly annoyed the right people.

Even broken clocks are correct twice a day, no?
 
That's a rapid departure from your original stance of "maybe we should watch all the tapes. "

Again, who brings the message is not as important as the message itself. He's clearly annoyed the right people.

Even broken clocks are correct twice a day, no?
No it’s not, I think they should have been released, doesn’t change that he is a complete retard. I also, think the release will make things worse as I mentioned in a post above. Helps if you read the thread.
 
No it’s not, I think they should have been released, doesn’t change that he is a complete retard. I also, think the release will make things worse as I mentioned in a post above. Helps if you read the thread.
I did read the thread. And if you did as well, how can I be a defund the police liberal and a conservative bootlicker who supports police shooting unarmed suspects simultaneously?
 
I did read the thread. And if you did as well, how can I be a defund the police liberal and a conservative bootlicker who supports police shooting unarmed suspects simultaneously?
So you support law enforcement? Or it depends on the politics of the situation? As I stated earlier, I am going to let things shake out before I go against the fbi. I watched the insurrectionist next door, the people they interviewed that got jail time knew they messed up and made a mistake. It’s a well done documentary surprising as that may sound given who produced it.
 
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So you support law enforcement? Or it depends on the politics of the situation? As I stated earlier, I am going to let things shake out before I go against the fbi. I watched the insurrectionist next door, the people they interviewed that got jail time knew they messed up and made a mistake. It’s a well done documentary surprising as that may sound given who produced it.
That's a silly question.

When law enforcement follows the law and departmental procedure, I support them.

When they don't, I believe they should be punished more harshly than a citizen.

It is possible to support law enforcement and hold them to a higher standard simultaneously.

I haven't seen this documentary, but I assure you that I'll add it to my list.

People who caused property damage or assaulted people, civilians or law enforcement, should be in jail.

What concerns me is the apparent suspension of Habeus Corpus in the case of certain defendants and the invocation of privacy concerns that you or I probably should not be privy to, but defense counsel absolutely should have.

I will admit to not trusting government alphabet agencies since the Clinton administration.

One other thing, if you engage in ad hominem attacks, which is fine with me, it's the internet and we're all grownups here, might I suggest you steer clear of the r word.

Lest one of your many admirerers report you to the site owner, who I assure you, will come down on you with the wrath of the avenging angel of the Lord for that particular one.

Happy Thanksgiving.
 
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That's a silly question.

When law enforcement follows the law and departmental procedure, I support them.

When they don't, I believe they should be punished more harshly than a citizen.

It is possible to support law enforcement and hold them to a higher standard simultaneously.

I haven't seen this documentary, but I assure you that I'll add it to my list.

People who caused property damage or assaulted people, civilians or law enforcement, should be in jail.

What concerns me is the apparent suspension of Habeus Corpus in the case of certain defendants and the invocation of privacy concerns that you or I probably should not be privy to, but defense counsel absolutely should have.

I will admit to not trusting government alphabet agencies since the Clinton administration.

One other thing, if you engage in as hominem attacks, which is fine with me, it's the internet and we're all grownups here, might I suggest you steer clear of the r word.

Lest one of your many admirerers report you to the site owner, who I assure you, will come down on you with the wrath of the avenging angel of the Lord for that particular one.

Happy Thanksgiving.
So you don’t support the fbi regarding jan 6th. You’re in the rioters were set up camp? Lol, yes the site is full of snowflakes I hope you’re not one of them.
 
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Lol, I think the guys a complete retard. Complete. I think people that support him are complete retards. How’s that.

How about THAT half nickel? You'll never learn. Socks will be socks. 😂 😂 😂

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So you don’t support the fbi regarding jan 6th. You’re in the rioters were set up camp? Lol, yes the site is full of snowflakes I hope you’re not one of them.
So you don’t support the fbi regarding jan 6th. You’re in the rioters were set up camp? Lol, yes the site is full of snowflakes I hope you’re not one of them.
I'm personally fond of the occasional flame war so no.

In my lifetime the FBI was responsible for Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the Bureau of land management standoff.

I believe they have slowly evolved from the good guys to stormtroopers of the current administration regardless of the letter next to the last name.

The heroic G Men of the agency are long gone. And if Fox Mulder type ever existed in the Bureau I imagine in this day and age he'd join Jimmy Hoffa and D. B Cooper rather quickly.
 
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I'm personally fond of the occasional flame war so no.

In my lifetime the FBI was responsible for Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the Bureau of land management standoff.

I believe they have slowly evolved from the good guys to stormtroopers of the current administration regardless of the letter next to the last name.

The heroic G Men of the agency are long gone. And if Fox Mulder type ever existed in the Bureau I imagine in this day and age he'd join Jimmy Hoffa and D. B Cooper rather quickly.
fair enough. but lets not forget the FBI has always gone after what it perceives as an enemy of the state...

 
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fair enough. but lets not forget the FBI has always gone after what it perceives as an enemy of the state...

As I said, evolved.

The predecessor of the Central Intelligence Agency was the Office of Strategic Services, run by Medal of Honor winner Colonel William Donovan. J. Edgar Hoover, already a twitchy and paranoid individual, was positively apoplectic at the idea of another agency treading on what he perceived as his turf. There has always been politics in law enforcement but this is where the partisan element began ramping up to the current levels. During the McCarthy communism witch hunts the umbrella of potential subversive expanded to any political dissident. The FBI files on Dr King are due to be declassified soon and I'm sure that will lower my opinion further.
 
As I said, evolved.

The predecessor of the Central Intelligence Agency was the Office of Strategic Services, run by Medal of Honor winner Colonel William Donovan. J. Edgar Hoover, already a twitchy and paranoid individual, was positively apoplectic at the idea of another agency treading on what he perceived as his turf. There has always been politics in law enforcement but this is where the partisan element began ramping up to the current levels. During the McCarthy communism witch hunts the umbrella of potential subversive expanded to any political dissident. The FBI files on Dr King are due to be declassified soon and I'm sure that will lower my opinion further.
the FBI has always gone after what it perceives as an enemy of the state, on the right and on the left. you may stand with david koresh, but the USA did not.
 
the FBI has always gone after what it perceives as an enemy of the state, on the right and on the left. you may stand with david koresh, but the USA did not.
That is a very simplistic take.

The reality of the situation was this was a test case for striking out at churches. They wanted the reaction you just showed.

Can you tell me how many Branch Davidian members were convicted of child exploitation, endangerment, or abuse, sexual or otherwise? How about gun trafficking and possession of class 3 or NFA weapons?
 
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I am glad they were released, of course I have more faith in law enforcement than you or the others do, you really think the fbi and doj didn’t watch the tapes?? The release what she’d any light on the issue it will serve to reinforce opinions already in place, there are over 64k hours of tape. Lots of bits will be released to the various sheep flocks to give them what they already believe. This isn’t curative at all.
I have faith in transparency, accountability and the rule of law.

No institution, including, the Minneapolis Police department, nor the FBI, nor the IDF (is infallible - especially at the top leadership levels.). I also have a strong distrust for concentrations of power.

Power seeks to protect power. Transparency provides a counter-balance.

Do not prejudge what will be released. It could vindicate Tucker Carlson; it could also vindicate Liz Chaney.

Let the facts play out, and hold accountable, BOTH sides, to seek the truth.
 
the FBI has always gone after what it perceives as an enemy of the state, on the right and on the left. you may stand with david koresh, but the USA did not.
Well, that is right. They went after Malcolm-X as well as the J6 individuals. Interesting how few progressives outside of Brianna Joy Gray have called that out.
 
I have faith in transparency, accountability and the rule of law.

No institution, including, the Minneapolis Police department, nor the FBI, nor the IDF (is infallible - especially at the top leadership levels.). I also have a strong distrust for concentrations of power.

Power seeks to protect power. Transparency provides a counter-balance.

Do not prejudge what will be released. It could vindicate Tucker Carlson; it could also vindicate Liz Chaney.

Let the facts play out, and hold accountable, BOTH sides, to seek the truth.
Yes, I would like to see all our National security info too. As I said, glad they were released, it’s only going to add to the confusion and division it’s not going to clarify anything.
 
Well, that is right. They went after Malcolm-X as well as the J6 individuals. Interesting how few progressives outside of Brianna Joy Gray have called that out.
They go after what they perceive to be an enemy of the state. Martin Luther king to I believe…. Black panthers, hundreds of groups. I think there was a bad element involved with Jan 6th. Glad it’s being handled
 
That is a very simplistic take.

The reality of the situation was this was a test case for striking out at churches. They wanted the reaction you just showed.

Can you tell me how many Branch Davidian members were convicted of child exploitation, endangerment, or abuse, sexual or otherwise? How about gun trafficking and possession of class 3 or NFA weapons?
Yeah, this is bananas. Let me ask, do you go to church? Are you a god fearing person?
 
Yeah, this is bananas. Let me ask, do you go to church? Are you a god fearing person?
Is it though?

Historically people in power do not care to share it.

That's true of the church and the government.

If you were to decide to start a war on religion, would you start with a weird little cult in Texas that might be hurting children and stockpiling illegal weapons or the Southern Baptist convention first?

We know the church is capable of such things, just ask the Knights Templar.

I go to church and I am a God fearing man, because of these things I know that things of men are not to be trusted, and that God expects me to do my part in protecting my way of life and defeating evil.
 
Is it though?

Historically people in power do not care to share it.

That's true of the church and the government.

If you were to decide to start a war on religion, would you start with a weird little cult in Texas that might be hurting children and stockpiling illegal weapons or the Southern Baptist convention first?

We know the church is capable of such things, just ask the Knights Templar.

I go to church and I am a God fearing man, because of these things I know that things of men are not to be trusted, and that God expects me to do my part in protecting my way of life and defeating evil.
Ok, I am glad you put churches in with governments, very very similar beasts. People have always strived to control other people. David koresh, was a small cancer cell that was beat removed before it metastasized
 


its not just the right that wants to defund our police, the left doesnt love law and order either...
Who on the right wants to defund our police? The left hates law and order, unless it impacts them personally. Snowflake lefties think rioting, protesting, marching, burning other people's property, taking other people's possessions is all justified. Lefty, dimwitted snowflakes rallying cry is "defund the police". They are typically sharp as a bowling ball.
 
Ok, I am glad you put churches in with governments, very very similar beasts. People have always strived to control other people. David koresh, was a small cancer cell that was beat removed before it metastasized
We'll never known because most of the suspects and the children they were allegedly abusing died in the raid, and the average Branch Davidian owned 3 firearms, which is one below the average Texan who owns 4.

It might not be a slam dunk to my crackpot little theory but killing people no one will miss seems like a very good cya move to cover your failures in Tactics and Intel.

After the second amendment I'm sure that Churches not being taxed causes much wailing and gnashing of teeth to those who favor big government.
 
We'll never known because most of the suspects and the children they were allegedly abusing died in the raid, and the average Branch Davidian owned 3 firearms, which is one below the average Texan who owns 4.

It might not be a slam dunk to my crackpot little theory but killing people no one will miss seems like a very good cya move to cover your failures in Tactics and Intel.

After the second amendment I'm sure that Churches not being taxed causes much wailing and gnashing of teeth to those who favor big government.
Well getting into shootouts with the fbi isn’t a great longevity move, I recommend eating more fresh fruits and veggies instead.
 
Who on the right wants to defund our police? The left hates law and order, unless it impacts them personally. Snowflake lefties think rioting, protesting, marching, burning other people's property, taking other people's possessions is all justified. Lefty, dimwitted snowflakes rallying cry is "defund the police". They are typically sharp as a bowling ball.
The people saying our number one law enforcement agency is crooked that’s who.
 
Stop saying that please. It is very offensive to many members of the community including myself. Do not say it again. Thanks for understanding MD.
'Retard' gets changed to ****** on the national boards. I figured all the boards would be the same.
 
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Now you are deflecting to what is happening in Ireland? Seriously? Over 500 destructive protests in less than a year across our country and you are talking about Ireland. Wow. BLM and Antifa burn police stations, police cars, assault police officers and this is what you come up with? Are you okay with their actions?
 
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