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Someone tried to kill Trump at rally...

More just pure evil from Biden.

The “bloodbath comment”, for the few liberals that are still here, was in reference to employment in the domestic auto industry if Biden’s EV mandates came to fruition. That’s who Trump was speaking to and that was the issue at hand.

Fvck him for lying about that less than 3 days from an assassination attempt on his political opponent. And all we heard from the MSM was the right needs to “tamp down the rhetoric”.

I want peace. No more violence. No more riots. No more demonization. Hyperbole and puffery are politics, stay away from talk that makes crazy people do crazy things.

And again to Lester Holt the lie about Charlottesville and fine people on both sides which has been debunked. But according to Biden, he's not responsible for ANY incendiary rhetoric.
 
One side:
- wants endless wars to enrich the industrial military complex
- hates religion with very few exceptions
- feels sexuality is a “social construct” and supports pride parades with open sexual content and drag queen story hours with kids
- has been responsible for assassination attempts on the last 3 presidents
- violently riots when they don’t get their way (Trump 2016 election, Floyd riots)
- supports top down governmental control (socialism and eventually communism), an ideology that has left tens of millions of dead in its wake

And the other wants religion and prayer back in schools, is hardly ever violent, and favors individual independence and freedom over governmental control. It’s also grounded in Natural law.

Which one do you think more closely aligns with Christian values?
You choose to use the extremes in both parties to describe them. Most of AMERICA is somewhere in between. Did the early founding fathers stress SEPARATION of church and state?
Does America not include non-Christians or have I been living in a different country than you?
 
You are probably a nice guy and I like you posts in The Swamp forum. But just look at what you are saying. Your words here suggest that you are the prototypical holier than thou bigot. You label me a Dem and you do not know me or my voting history. (I have voted republican most of my 47 voting years. Not until last election did I not. It has been Trump that soured me on the so called republican party.) I believe that god is fair for all people. I cannot believe he picks sides in an election and I find it very hard to believe God would vote for your "savior."
I think we are not communicating very well. I do not think God chooses because of which partry you are. That would be STUPID. I think God chooses between good and evil. I believe that a person who showers with his teenage daughter is EVIL. I believe a guy that opens our borders to let illegal aliens in, that by our Constitution should NOT be here...that kill innocent people, bring enough Fentanyl across our borders to kill 75K Americans per year to help him stay in power is EVIL.I think the news media, Biden's white house team that have covered for his dementia putting the greatest Country ever in jeopardy because they want to remain in power are evil. I think looking at the failure of supposedly the worlds premier protection agency exemplifies FJB's whole presidency. I think people who support this evil...are evil also. This is the clearest choice America has ever had to make. One guy had an incredible run until covid. One guy CANNOT POSSIBLY talk about his record because he screwed EVERYTHING up and now can only attack, mostly with made up lies tells you everything. I will step back a bit from the tone I had, and apologize to you. However I will NEVER change my views of what is happening to my GREAT Country.
 
You choose to use the extremes in both parties to describe them. Most of AMERICA is somewhere in between. Did the early founding fathers stress SEPARATION of church and state?
Does America not include non-Christians or have I been living in a different country than you?
NO ONE believes any different. The other side is the side of intolerance. Has been for the 60+ years I have been alive.
 
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You choose to use the extremes in both parties to describe them. Most of AMERICA is somewhere in between. Did the early founding fathers stress SEPARATION of church and state?
Does America not include non-Christians or have I been living in a different country than you?
No they didn't, and lack of historical knowledge is a major problem in this country. The words "separation of church and state" don't appear in any founding document, but they are rife with mentions of God and references to concepts seen in Natural Law.

NOW - the 1st amendment does allow for Freedom of Religion: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion."

Some of the Founders even thought compulsory religion was ok, but luckily a majority saw that as overreach.

But you're missing the point - morality in society is being eroded by the Left. Nothing in my list was "extreme", those are all factual events that have occurred or are occurring. It's not my place to say God would favor one side over the other of course, but one is by definition closer to the Founder's values. Conservatism literally "conserves" those values.

What "progress" are progressives making - and how on earth do you vote for that?
 
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@G8trDad3

Glad you brought this up.

Did our founders emphasize separation of church and state? No. In fact this term wasn’t even mentioned. In fact, many encouraged Bible reading in school. I can provide quotes if you like? As previously stated, conflating the establishment clause (which is simply not mandating government religion) with teaching about the contents of the Bible is absurd. Otherwise, the founders wouldn’t have encouraged reading the bible and would have banned it from school themselves.

And guess what, you were just as free to not be a christian then as now.

Can’t wait to go spend some of my money today. In God we Trust.

I had refrained from continuing this discussion because people keep making my points for me. Just like this poster.
Appreciate it.
 
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I think we are not communicating very well. I do not think God chooses because of which partry you are. That would be STUPID. I think God chooses between good and evil. I believe that a person who showers with his teenage daughter is EVIL. I believe a guy that opens our borders to let illegal aliens in, that by our Constitution should NOT be here...that kill innocent people, bring enough Fentanyl across our borders to kill 75K Americans per year to help him stay in power is EVIL.I think the news media, Biden's white house team that have covered for his dementia putting the greatest Country ever in jeopardy because they want to remain in power are evil. I think looking at the failure of supposedly the worlds premier protection agency exemplifies FJB's whole presidency. I think people who support this evil...are evil also. This is the clearest choice America has ever had to make. One guy had an incredible run until covid. One guy CANNOT POSSIBLY talk about his record because he screwed EVERYTHING up and now can only attack, mostly with made up lies tells you everything. I will step back a bit from the tone I had, and apologize to you. However I will NEVER change my views of what is happening to my GREAT Country.
I could counter with all the accusations of the evil deeds of Trump but you will choose to ignore that any way. I will ask you which party in general in is more tolerant? Do you relate to the Proud Boys and the hillbillies driving around with the huge American flag mounted next to the Confederate flag in their truck beds? They certainly are proud Americans.
I guess because I’m not a registered republican I’m a murderous, pedophile going around raping and pillaging and am condemned to rot in hell? Have a nice day. 😊
 
No they didn't, and lack of historical knowledge is a major problem in this country. The words "separation of church and state" don't appear in any founding document, but they are rife with mentions of God and references to concepts seen in Natural Law.

NOW - the 1st amendment does allow for Freedom of Religion: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion."

Some of the Founders even thought compulsory religion was ok, but luckily a majority saw that as overreach.

But you're missing the point - morality in society is being eroded by the Left. Nothing in my list was "extreme", those are all factual events that have occurred or are occurring. It's not my place to say God would favor one side over the other of course, but one is by definition closer to the Founder's values. Conservatism literally "conserves" those values.

What "progress" are progressives making - and how on earth do you vote for that?

Yep I think it was the early 1900s that courts started pushing the separation of church and state stuff. It's definitely not in the Constitution.
 
I could counter with all the accusations of the evil deeds of Trump but you will choose to ignore that any way. I will ask you which party in general in is more tolerant? Do you relate to the Proud Boys and the hillbillies driving around with the huge American flag mounted next to the Confederate flag in their truck beds? They certainly are proud Americans.
I guess because I’m not a registered republican I’m a murderous, pedophile going around raping and pillaging and am condemned to rot in hell? Have a nice day. 😊
I have ZERO problems with people flying flags within our Nations laws. ZERO. American flags I fly them probably more than anyone. If someone wants to fly a confederate flag...it is their right, and NOT against the law. NO ONE in the Rep party supports the proud boys..try some truth next time. Which party is more tolerant...I am LMAO AT YOU for even asking. I will embarrass you if you would like to debate that. And not only is your side intolerant...it is intolerant to AMERICA...and tolerant towards America's enemies. And I ALWAYS have a nice day educating liberals....they usually are not smart enough to listen, through.
 
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I could counter with all the accusations of the evil deeds of Trump but you will choose to ignore that any way. I will ask you which party in general in is more tolerant? Do you relate to the Proud Boys and the hillbillies driving around with the huge American flag mounted next to the Confederate flag in their truck beds? They certainly are proud Americans.
I guess because I’m not a registered republican I’m a murderous, pedophile going around raping and pillaging and am condemned to rot in hell? Have a nice day. 😊
Your guess...or guilty conscious? If you support the things I mention above...you already have your answer now don't you?
 
If you're just a decent person and don't do things like root for murder you don't really have to worry about much.

BTW - you wanted someone younger, you got your wish with Vance. He seems genuine and is only 39YO.
He’s younger - a millennial - but I’m not certain about some of his stances nor am I sure about the “post liberal” philosophy he seems to think is great.
 
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I could counter with all the accusations of the evil deeds of Trump but you will choose to ignore that any way. I will ask you which party in general in is more tolerant? Do you relate to the Proud Boys and the hillbillies driving around with the huge American flag mounted next to the Confederate flag in their truck beds? They certainly are proud Americans.
I guess because I’m not a registered republican I’m a murderous, pedophile going around raping and pillaging and am condemned to rot in hell? Have a nice day. 😊
What the heck does flying American and or Confederate flags have to do with anything? Do you know why they are flying the Confederate flag? Did you ask them?
Are people who burn American flags and yell "death to America" tolerant?

You jump to many conclusions rapidly.
 
What the heck does flying American and or Confederate flags have to do with anything? Do you know why they are flying the Confederate flag? Did you ask them?
Are people who burn American flags and yell "death to America" tolerant?

You jump to many conclusions rapidly.
NO WAY..they are the party of "tolerance" LOLOLOL THE MOST INTOLERANT racist group I have ever met!
 
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@G8trDad3

Glad you brought this up.

Did our founders emphasize separation of church and state? No. In fact this term wasn’t even mentioned. In fact, many encouraged Bible reading in school. I can provide quotes if you like? As previously stated, conflating the establishment clause (which is simply not mandating government religion) with teaching about the contents of the Bible is absurd. Otherwise, the founders wouldn’t have encouraged reading the bible and would have banned it from school themselves.

And guess what, you were just as free to not be a christian then as now.

Can’t wait to go spend some of my money today. In God we Trust.

I had refrained from continuing this discussion because people keep making my points for me. Just like this poster.
Appreciate it.
I just wanted to watch you take him apart. 😁
 
I could counter with all the accusations of the evil deeds of Trump but you will choose to ignore that any way. I will ask you which party in general in is more tolerant? Do you relate to the Proud Boys and the hillbillies driving around with the huge American flag mounted next to the Confederate flag in their truck beds? They certainly are proud Americans.
I guess because I’m not a registered republican I’m a murderous, pedophile going around raping and pillaging and am condemned to rot in hell? Have a nice day. 😊
The leader of the Proud Boys isn't white. I'm not defending them, I don't know all much about them, but I don't understand how you can call them intolerant. Was there an event you want to cite as an example? If they killed or hurt someone or did something blatantly racist we'd ALL know, trust me. We have a two tiered justice system and media complex when it comes to Right vs Left wing violence.

And I assume hillbillies with the stars and bars in their truck beds are prob racist. I can't confirm because I don't know any, despite living very close to the WV border. But I do know they claim "heritage not hate" a lot, which to me means they're harkening back to Federalism and state's rights, not necessarily slavery. But I don't know.

And you want to talk tolerance? Wear a MAGA hat around town and tell me how "tolerant" the left is.
 
The leader of the Proud Boys isn't white. I'm not defending them, I don't know all much about them, but I don't understand how you can call them intolerant. Was there an event you want to cite as an example? If they killed or hurt someone or did something blatantly racist we'd ALL know, trust me. We have a two tiered justice system and media complex when it comes to Right vs Left wing violence.

And I assume hillbillies with the stars and bars in their truck beds are prob racist. I can't confirm because I don't know any, despite living very close to the WV border. But I do know they claim "heritage not hate" a lot, which to me means they're harkening back to Federalism and state's rights, not necessarily slavery. But I don't know.

And you want to talk tolerance? Wear a MAGA hat around town and tell me how "tolerant" the left is.
Not the stars and bars. If it's square it's the battle flag of the army of northern Virginia. If it's rectangular it's the battle flag of the army of Tennessee, or the second Naval Jack. Almost no one flies the stars and bars because it's too easily confused with the current Texas state flag.
 
Not the stars and bars. If it's square it's the battle flag of the army of northern Virginia. If it's rectangular it's the battle flag of the army of Tennessee, or the second Naval Jack. Almost no one flies the stars and bars because it's too easily confused with the current Texas state flag.
I stand corrected.

I also live in NoVA, which may explain why I see those flags.
 
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Not the stars and bars. If it's square it's the battle flag of the army of northern Virginia. If it's rectangular it's the battle flag of the army of Tennessee, or the second Naval Jack. Almost no one flies the stars and bars because it's too easily confused with the current Texas state flag.
It's crazy how butthurt Democrats are about Confederate Flags. It's just a symbol of southern heritage, nothing more. Hell, Lynyrd Skynyrd used it as a backdrop. Nobody called them racists. Eff em. I'm not a flag or bumper sticker guy, I don't even have a Gator flag. It's just as dumb as trying to outlaw purple and pink hair and nose rings. Not my thing either but it's basically the same argument.
 
No way Biden gets replaced now. They know no matter who they run, they’ll lose. No point in trotting out someone like Newsome, who they think may have a future, only to get smashed by Trump and end their political career. Joes job is to get beat then shuffle off to the nursing home.
 
Guys and Gals...I am VERY, VERY worried about this Iran assassination plot. What worries me is that they knew this before THIS attempt, and supposedly this was EXTRA protection. One thing for sure...SOMETHING smells REAL bad, and I am worried about Trumps security. I know who these people are, and EVERYONE should be worried. OUR side needs to DEMAND Cheatle be removed IMMEDATLY from her position and someone CAPABLE of doing her job put in place. ANYONE speak up if you trust our current administration to do everything they can to protect Trump!!
 
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No way Biden gets replaced now. They know no matter who they run, they’ll lose. No point in trotting out someone like Newsome, who they think may have a future, only to get smashed by Trump and end their political career. Joes job is to get beat then shuffle off to the nursing home.
I am going back and forth on this one. Adam piece of schiff just threw his hat in for replacing FJB. HE CANNT WIN with his numbers.
 
I am going back and forth on this one. Adam piece of schiff just threw his hat in for replacing FJB. HE CANNT WIN with his numbers.
Adam Schiff should be in prison. If he had an R next to his name he would be.

Unless they can bring FDR back from the dead, they’re losing the election.
 
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