Originally posted by badselectioncommittee:
Originally posted by BigOleNastyGator:
Originally posted by badselectioncommittee:
Originally posted by BigOleNastyGator:
our lives.
They're importing more entitlement class voters by the million. Entitlement class voters breed more rapidly than any one else. The non-state side society, ie those in favor of a more voluntary society can't win an election on the national level no matter what at this point in American history. We won't be able to stem this tide.
So, explain to me the advantages of having no freedom and me working nearly 1/2 the year as a government sharecropper to support those that vote for a living, has a silver lining somewhere.
I give up, barring a civil war, secession, or revolution there is no place in the world for those of us that would remain free, so what other than slavery do we have to look forward to?
So this is what this Board has turned into, one big pity party?
That's all that's left, through control of the dept of ed, handouts, illegal immigration, and entitlement class birth rates you guys won, you've deprived us of serious input. congrats on your take over of the apparatus of state, but there are consequences to disenfranchising nearly 1/2 of your population.
I hate to ruin your moment of self destruction, but, in the interest of debate, let me address your points:
1. Dept. of Education - as you know, most education is determined locally, not nationally. It wasn't that long ago that some districts were burning Catcher in the Rye. I agree that teachers have a natural liberal bent (i.e. helping others), this has not changed over the last century. In fact, I would suggest that some school districts have become more conservative in the past few decades. By its very nature, all schooling can be considered mind control so I'm curious as to how you would change the way school systems are run.
(Incorrect, the department of education sets biased standards, local school boards adhere to them, in any event teacher's unions are damn near marxist in outlook, our schools teach nothing, they're indoctrination mills. I would change them by not having them make value judgements and teach reading, writing, and science etc and not be used to advance agendas. Right now our schools produce nothing but entitled useful idiots.)
2. Handouts - I partially agree with this one and hopefully the budget deficit will slow the growth here. We are a long way from a socialist society though as the top 1% are doing fine and there are still plenty of ways to make money. But if you consider it a net loss that the lower classes have food, shelter and health care, then I guess "you've" lost that one.
(There are more people on assistance now than working, that is unsustainable)
3. Illegal immigration - this has actually declined in recent years because of the economy. You can argue that we should wish for more immigration as that would mean there are more jobs available. (
Now they're just coming for the generous handouts, they don't need work any more. entitlement class people=statist clients who vote for a living less isn't the same as a significant reduction, we're still allowing thousands and thousands to come here and plugging them directly into the entitlement machine)
4. Entitlement class birth rates - Birth rates are inversely proportial to wealth in just about every society. The same argument was made 100 years ago about the Irish and the Italians and they seem to have assimilated pretty well. You sound pretty WASPy with that comment.
(It is different now, those people came here, got jobs, saw their children educated and progressed, there wasn't as much of a welfare state to be exploited, that is no longer the case and I am probably the least WASPy poster on this board)
In every society, there are winners and losers. If you not happy about the less fortunate having access to basic needs, then you are probably living in the wrong society. Having traveled extensively in third world countries, I can tell you that I prefer the poor to be taken care of and am willing to pay higher tax rates in order to preserve our way of life.
(The rate of increase can't be covered by merely minor tax increases, the taxes necessary would be confiscatory and your way of life will be over)
It's game over, we're headed toward a socialist tyrannical nightmare and there is no hope for a return to sanity. There are too many people with their hands out and we're importing more, that's economic suicide. I do live in the wrong country, I would like to make my country back into the land of the free instead of the land of hand outs, confiscation, and the NSA.
