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Probably an independent judiciary. Again, basically like the process of getting a warrant. Or maybe we could have some kind of elected ombudsman.

Basically, we need to add a sober review by a disinterested third party.
Do you think there would be an independent judiciary that could be unbiased in this country?

What exactly would you want them oversee? Who is paying for this independent judiciary?
 


Now THIS is interesting! For those of you that don't know, Evan Williams and Biz Stone co-founded Twitter along with Jack Dorsey. But the journalists in this country do no real reporting, and typically report that Dorsey founded Twitter. Williams left Twitter around 2012 I think, and Biz around 2014/2015 if I remember correctly.

So Biz's comment about 'All the world events we didn't make public' implies that he's talking in a pre-2015 timeline.

IOW, it sounds like he's saying Twitter has been censoring the flow of honest information a LOT longer than we thought they had been.
 
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I think part of the difference is that you guys see malice whereas I see poorly-defined policies and inadequate separation of interests allowing individuals to make decisions clouded by their own bias and assumptions.

A possible workaround is to require a third party, like a judge, to act as an intermediary, similar to the warrant system.

Basically, we need more checks and balances.

I don't understand how you don't see malice. You view it as an accident or happenstance???

Ummm...how?
 


"Stroppa said within a 24-hour time frame, the platform ramped up its efforts to crack down on “suspicious accounts,” which led to the removal of 44,000 handles and 1,300 profiles that used strategic communication methods to bypass detection using codewords and text in images — many of which came from networks with Spanish-speaking and Portuguese-speaking users that share child sexual exploitation content.

“Zero tolerance,” Stroppa said, adding Twitter has involved independent experts in increasing its ability to protect children’s safety.

Eliza Bleu, a survivor advocate of those affected by human trafficking, has been speaking out against Twitter’s child pornography problem since shortly after joining the platform in 2019.

Bleu told The Daily Wire she was “floored” after seeing the latest report of how many profiles were removed.

“I don’t think I thought any of this stuff was possible at the scale that they’re removing it now,” Bleu said. “The only thing is they’re just gonna have to keep it up, keep innovating, and continue to make it their top priority.”

“I feel like I’m witnessing a miracle,” she added.


Crimes against children has ALWAYS been the common denominator.

When Trump took over in 2016, the Day One priority was securing the border, for many reasons.

But the NUMBER ONE reason, was to stop child trafficking. And Jeff Sessions did an amazing job getting that ball rolling. We saw a massive spike in child and human trafficking arrests.

That work has continued under Trump.

At the same time, what have we seen from the MSM?

A push to 'normalize' pedophilia. They aren't pedophiles, they are 'Minor Attracted Persons'.

The stuff associated with Belenceiaga and its recent photo ads and the background of its creative director are so grotesquely evil that I haven't even posted it here.

When Trump took over, there was a massive spike in arrests of people committing crimes against children.

And MSM has reacted by attempting to paint people who commit crimes against children as being the victims, not the perpetrators.

Connect the dots. This is a fight of good vs evil in the truest sense. Some of you better wake up and realize which side you are really on.
 
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I think part of the difference is that you guys see malice whereas I see poorly-defined policies and inadequate separation of interests allowing individuals to make decisions clouded by their own bias and assumptions.

A possible workaround is to require a third party, like a judge, to act as an intermediary, similar to the warrant system.

Basically, we need more checks and balances.
BTW there's another angle to this story that's been completely overlooked here.

MSM has now admitted that the Hunter Biden laptop is real.

When the story first broke 2 years ago, we were immediately told it was 'Russian disinformation' by the same MSM. There was the famous 60 Minutes interview where Trump brought up the laptop and Lesley Stahl immediately shot him down, said we can't talk aut the laptop cause its not real. Trump pressed and Stahl said we're not doing that, we are 60 Minutes, we only cover real news!

The point here is, you always accuse Trump supporters of being the ones that fall for 'disinformation' from 'conspiracy theory' sites. But time after time, the real conspiracy theory sites end up being the MSM sites.

Have you noticed that? Adjusted your behavior as a result?
 


Now THIS is interesting! For those of you that don't know, Evan Williams and Biz Stone co-founded Twitter along with Jack Dorsey. But the journalists in this country do no real reporting, and typically report that Dorsey founded Twitter. Williams left Twitter around 2012 I think, and Biz around 2014/2015 if I remember correctly.

So Biz's comment about 'All the world events we didn't make public' implies that he's talking in a pre-2015 timeline.

IOW, it sounds like he's saying Twitter has been censoring the flow of honest information a LOT longer than we thought they had been.


Rather than listen to your "interpretations" of Biz Stone's comments maybe you should let his actual quotes speak for themselves...


https://www.yahoo.com/news/twitter-cofounder-biz-stone-appears-111616490.html
Twitter cofounder Biz Stone appears to slam Elon Musk over 'gross' release of 'Twitter files,' saying he's not a serious person
Beatrice Nolan
Mon, December 5, 2022 at 6:16 AM

  • Twitter cofounder Biz Stone appeared to criticize the platform's new owner, Elon Musk.
  • Last week, some internal Twitter emails were leaked online by journalist Matt Taibbi.
  • In an apparent reference to Musk, following the leaks, Stone said he was "not a serious person."

In an apparent reference to Musk, Stone later tweeted: "He's not a serious person. He does things for sport that have serious consequences for real people."

Responding to a user's tweet that accused Musk of being reckless, Stone wrote: "It's heartbreaking. All the world events we didn't make public to protect brave people. Also, on the Trump poll, "The people have spoken!" How many Russians voted? It's global."

He added: "That's not what we made it for."
 
BTW there's another angle to this story that's been completely overlooked here.

MSM has now admitted that the Hunter Biden laptop is real.

When the story first broke 2 years ago, we were immediately told it was 'Russian disinformation' by the same MSM. There was the famous 60 Minutes interview where Trump brought up the laptop and Lesley Stahl immediately shot him down, said we can't talk aut the laptop cause its not real. Trump pressed and Stahl said we're not doing that, we are 60 Minutes, we only cover real news!

The point here is, you always accuse Trump supporters of being the ones that fall for 'disinformation' from 'conspiracy theory' sites. But time after time, the real conspiracy theory sites end up being the MSM sites.

Have you noticed that? Adjusted your behavior as a result?


As far as I know, I never called the existence of the laptop itself a "conspiracy." I already acknowledge that the laptop and most of its contents are likely real. What is unclear is if anything was added or edited between the period Biden dropped off the laptop and when it became public.

I did see an analysis by a reputable source who said says that at least some of the contents were legit.
 
I defer to the philosophy of the framers of the Constitution who warned that tyranny, corruption, and abuses of power are inevitable without checks and balances to contain them.
What? Are you suggesting that Twitter and Hiden colluding to remove the Hunter laptop from the Twitter platform is an example of 'checks and balances'?

Against what? Free speech?
 
As far as I know, I never called the existence of the laptop itself a "conspiracy." I already acknowledge that the laptop and most of its contents are likely real. What is unclear is if anything was added or edited between the period Biden dropped off the laptop and when it became public.

I did see an analysis by a reputable source who said says that at least some of the contents were legit.
So can you at least accept that the MSM totally missed the Hunter laptop story?
 
No. It is an example of insufficient checks and balances.
Gotcha. I have zero issue with either Trump or Hiden requesting takedowns, we all can do that.

What becomes an issue is when the President can coerce a social media platform to censor valid information. I would say the same thing if Trump was pressuring Devin Nunes to censor information on Truth Social, even if TS was the dominant social media site. Especially so.
 
Gotcha. I have zero issue with either Trump or Hiden requesting takedowns, we all can do that.

What becomes an issue is when the President can coerce a social media platform to censor valid information. I would say the same thing if Trump was pressuring Devin Nunes to censor information on Truth Social, even if TS was the dominant social media site. Especially so.

Yes. For once, we agree.
 
Gotcha. I have zero issue with either Trump or Hiden requesting takedowns, we all can do that.

What becomes an issue is when the President can coerce a social media platform to censor valid information. I would say the same thing if Trump was pressuring Devin Nunes to censor information on Truth Social, even if TS was the dominant social media site. Especially so.

:rolleyes:

https://www.nytco.com/press/a-campaign-targeting-our-staff/

A Campaign Targeting Our Staff​

AUGUST 25, 2019

A note to staff by New York Times publisher A.G. Sulzberger calling attention to a Times story about a campaign led by President Trump’s allies intended to harass and embarrass individuals affiliated with several leading news organizations.
Dear Colleagues,

We published an article today revealing a coordinated campaign by President Trump’s allies to attack hundreds of journalists in retaliation for coverage of the administration. This unprecedented campaign appears designed to harass and embarrass anyone affiliated with independent news organizations that have asked tough questions and brought uncomfortable truths to light.

The New York Times, which has distinguished itself with fearless and fair coverage of the president, is one of the main targets of this assault. Unable to challenge the accuracy of our reporting, political operatives have been scouring social media and other sources to find any possibly embarrassing information on anyone associated with The Times, no matter their rank, role or actual influence on our journalism.

Their goal is to silence critics and undermine the public’s faith in independent journalism.
 
I defer to the philosophy of the framers of the Constitution who warned that tyranny, corruption, and abuses of power are inevitable without checks and balances to contain them.

Something like a fair and balanced media that's more concerned about country than party might be very useful in this effort.

Thomas Jefferson, for instance, famously wrote in 1787 that "were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter."

George Washington framed the issue of free expression in almost apocalyptic terms: "If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."

Among those slinging partisan unjust criticisms was the newspaper co-founded by James Madison, who reasoned that "some degree of abuse is inseparable from the proper use of everything, and in no instance is this more true than in that of the press."
 
Something like a fair and balanced media that's more concerned about country than party might be very useful in this effort.

Thomas Jefferson, for instance, famously wrote in 1787 that "were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter."

George Washington framed the issue of free expression in almost apocalyptic terms: "If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."

Among those slinging partisan unjust criticisms was the newspaper co-founded by James Madison, who reasoned that "some degree of abuse is inseparable from the proper use of everything, and in no instance is this more true than in that of the press."

Well, let me get out my magic wand to conjure up some “fair and balanced media.”

Unfortunately, it’s not that easy. People always have biases and agendas. That’s why we need checks and balances.
 
BTW there's another angle to this story that's been completely overlooked here.

MSM has now admitted that the Hunter Biden laptop is real.

When the story first broke 2 years ago, we were immediately told it was 'Russian disinformation' by the same MSM. There was the famous 60 Minutes interview where Trump brought up the laptop and Lesley Stahl immediately shot him down, said we can't talk aut the laptop cause its not real. Trump pressed and Stahl said we're not doing that, we are 60 Minutes, we only cover real news!

The point here is, you always accuse Trump supporters of being the ones that fall for 'disinformation' from 'conspiracy theory' sites. But time after time, the real conspiracy theory sites end up being the MSM sites.

Have you noticed that? Adjusted your behavior as a result?
"What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and hard cold facts?"



"About 6 months"
Rush Limbaugh

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Well, let me get out my magic wand to conjure up some “fair and balanced media.”

Unfortunately, it’s not that easy. People always have biases and agendas. That’s why we need checks and balances.

It's a responsibility...and it's not being met.

The issue is coming from the schools of journalism themselves. You can't get a degree in journalism from most universities unless you have a certain political view.
 
Well, let me get out my magic wand to conjure up some “fair and balanced media.”

Unfortunately, it’s not that easy. People always have biases and agendas. That’s why we need checks and balances.

And I wasn't blaming you or telling you that it was an easy fix. I was defining the issue.
 
Probably an independent judiciary. Again, basically like the process of getting a warrant. Or maybe we could have some kind of elected ombudsman.
Basically, we need to add a sober review by a disinterested third party.
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Rather than listen to your "interpretations" of Biz Stone's comments maybe you should let his actual quotes speak for themselves...


https://www.yahoo.com/news/twitter-cofounder-biz-stone-appears-111616490.html
Twitter cofounder Biz Stone appears to slam Elon Musk over 'gross' release of 'Twitter files,' saying he's not a serious person
Beatrice Nolan
Mon, December 5, 2022 at 6:16 AM

  • Twitter cofounder Biz Stone appeared to criticize the platform's new owner, Elon Musk.
  • Last week, some internal Twitter emails were leaked online by journalist Matt Taibbi.
  • In an apparent reference to Musk, following the leaks, Stone said he was "not a serious person."

In an apparent reference to Musk, Stone later tweeted: "He's not a serious person. He does things for sport that have serious consequences for real people."

Responding to a user's tweet that accused Musk of being reckless, Stone wrote: "It's heartbreaking. All the world events we didn't make public to protect brave people. Also, on the Trump poll, "The people have spoken!" How many Russians voted? It's global."

He added: "That's not what we made it for."
 
Question of the day: What if Elon has access to the materials that Baker pulled from the first batch.....and that's what he releases as the second Twitter Files?
 

Here we go. Musk may get the full Trump treatment eventually if he keeps pushing free speech.

My own view on that animal stuff is you have to be humane but of course animals have to be tested first with a lot of stuff.

That mess Fauci allowed with those Beagles should land you in prison.
 

Here we go. Musk may get the full Trump treatment eventually if he keeps pushing free speech.

My own view on that animal stuff is you have to be humane but of course animals have to be tested first with a lot of stuff.

That mess Fauci allowed with those Beagles should land you in prison.
That mess Fauci allowed with those Beagles should land you in prison.

That was the FIRST thing on my mind when you posted this.

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