No, you’re saying that. Every bulldog fan that has come on here has complained about Mullen ribbing UGA with a factual statistic. Did you see any FSU fans on here whining about his initial 41,014 spring attendance? No. We were used to Spurrier’s shots even though we beat him more than he beat us. And it’s harmless. Your fanbase is just insecure and it’s downright comical. Again, you’ve had every fanbase that hates UF and an outsider like Clemson come on here and explain how ridiculous you all are acting. But keep it up. You against the world. Maybe it’ll finally work out in your favor.
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This is your narrative. Pretty sure recruits don’t give a shit about some attendance figure trolling. Just continually shows how sensitive you all are.
Bad comparison. Mullen beat FSU. Trash talk is backed up on the field. Mullen is 0-2 against Smart and UGA. Like I said, it was all over national sports talk radio. Guess what happens when your trash talk fails? You get deserved backlash. Who cares what an ostarine loving Clemson fan thinks?
Trevor Lawrence amd Deshaun Watson say hello. Do me a favor and call ESPNU channel 84 and tell those guys that on the radio today... any of the shows.
Takes a team to win. Those two players were smart enough to go to a team not based on their state’s talent. Please provide an example since 1990 where a majority of the roster is made up of Georgia high school football talent.
I’m sure the talk radio guys talked about it nonstop. What better way to get the ratings up and phones ringing than with sensitive UGA fans calling in all emotional and butthurt about their lack of relevance being pointed out.
Are you actually retarded? Your take is that the state of Georgia doesn’t produce enough talent to win a Natty, but the state of South Carolina does? HAHAHAHA. Christ.
Actually I didn’t say that. Less than half of Clemson’s roster is made up of players from South Carolina. Clemson has built its foundation outside of its state recognizing it is inferior. UGA should do the same, moron.
I just hope it doesn’t take 9 years for Kirby to win one like Dabo. On a side note, you do know Kirby won a conference championship well before your boys Dabo and Saban did in their careers, right? And at an earlier age.
I’d say we’re on a pretty good trajectory but carry on with your troll job. A natty is coming...
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How am I trolling? Again, you just hate facts. You’re on the exact same trajectory as you were 15 years ago. None of that is trolling. Other than Georgia Tech name another roster since then with a majority of Georgia talent that’s won a national title in Div 1 football. That’s not trolling, that is factual. I’m sorry it hurts to know your state is behind Alabama, Texas, Florida, Louisiana, and California when it comes to actual talent production. It’s nothing to be ashamed of. Clemson and Tennessee were able to bring home titles recruiting out of their state’s too.
You can choose to count it or not but it is still two Kirby beatdowns of Mullen
Mullen is on the same trajectory also...now no division titles in 10 years...no reason to think that streak will ever stop!
Awesome. And you’ll still be without a national title until you take the Dabo approach and build your roster outside of your state’s lack of talent depth. Took Dabo close to ten years, maybe in seven years you’ll finally break through.
We are already getting who we want out of Florida but I know all three Florida teams won't suck forever. At some point Miami will be decent.
2 whole wins? Wow! Yeah that’s an astonishing and soul crushing streak. Keep telling yourself that... the guy did take Mississippi state to #1 in the polls. Mississippi state!! Have they ever been #1 before or since? Has kirby done that yet? I’m pretty sure he hasn’t. But you keep on talking up your two game streak. You guys seem to think that’s some kind of accomplishment. I mean, ole miss beat bama twice in a row. I’m curious if they continuously yammer on about it. Yeah, you beat a team you should have beaten at their weakest point in decades twice in a row. The fact is you should be ashamed that it isn’t 10-11 in a row. We just had our two worst coaches and bottomed our as a program, and your holy savior lost to one of those guys. That’s a hell of a lot more embarrassing than us losing two in a row to you. You should have won last year. Do you go to Kentucky boards and talk about winning last year? Or vandy? You were supposed to win those also, and mcelwain managed to drop is to the level with those schools.... no, you come here. Even when you should win we’re all you think about.
WHEN he wins a division title, I assume you’ll come back to eat your crow... also, if uga were in the sec west, he would have no division title either, let alone any shot at the playoffs.
But yeah, he’s dominated an extremely weakened division. Wow.
If Mullen ever wins a division title he will be halfway to McElwain's accomplishments.
And yes, Kirby has been #1 in the polls since he has been at Georgia. I don't ever mentuon it because Kirby has won two division titles one conference title, one college football playoff game and played in the national championship game. But keep telling yourself that those 7 days Mullen was #1 in the polls is such a huge accomplishment. Ha ha. Donyou ever re-read your posts before you hit send? If you did I'm not sure you would hit send.
Has anyone else ever taken Mississippi state to #1? No?
How about this, then. If Mullen ever wins a division title, you have to change your avatar to a picture of you wearing a dress. How many losses does kirby have to sec west teams again?
Lots of moral victories on this board. He got them to number 1, only to follow that up with losses to Alabama, Ole Miss, and Georgia Tech. He won 10 games last year, but finished 3rd in east. Are we starting to notice a trend here?
First of all Kirby has sucked against SEC West teams...especially on the road. I am not claiming Kirby is great only that he is better than Mullen.
Kirby is a great recruiter who is learning to be a great coach. He learned a lot of things from Saban on organization, high expectations, process, etc but Saban has never been known as a great in-game coach. To be quite honest, Saban has never really had to be because he usually has much more talent than other teams.
Kirby is a naturally great recruiter who will learn the in-game coaching. Sometimes you have to kearn from your mistakes and he has made mistakes for sure.
The ultimate goal is to win games. It doesn't really matter what kind of combination of recruiting/coaching/developing you have as long as it equals winning. Kirby almost won the national championship in his second year. That's pretty impressive no matter how you look at it.
The reason I am so convinced that Kirby will be more successful than Mullen is that over time you can get better at in-game coaching because you learn from successes and failures. I don't believe that you get better at recruiting. Mullen's recruiting class can be good because it will be easier to recruit at Fkorida. However, if you finish 9th in the country that is usually good for 5th in the SEC. You have to be a REALLY great developer/in-game coach to overcome that.
Richt had many Top 10 recruiting classes and didn't win an SEC title his last 10 years mainly because he pretty much neglected the OL and DL which he just couldn't overcome.
I am confident Mullen won't win a division title but not confident enough to wear a dress if he lucks up and wins one. Ha ha.
So Georgia hired a coach that needs on-the-job training.
Think about that for a minute.
Any first time coach needs it. Think about the fact that NO school offered Mullen a job other than Florida despite him having experience. Think about Florida choosing Muschamp over him and McElwain over him and then having him be their 3rd choice when they finally hired him.
Think about all the schools (Georgia included) who hired coaches with no head coach experience without showing any interest in Mullen.
I'm pretty sure Mullen got interest from other jobs because other programs appreciate what he did at Miss State. I think he also got some offers that he turned down, for whatever reason.
I don't think any other jobs pursued Kirby. I do think he pursued them.
I would argue the opposite. You can get better at recruiting but if you aren’t a great in game coach by the time you’re a had coach at a major program like uga, then it’s not like the light will suddenly turn on. He’s been coaching his whole life. I’m not sure what he’s going to learn now.
Recruiting is the opposite. Many things can affect recruiting, success being one of them. Swinney is a perfect example. He wasn’t hitting it out of the park at Clemson but he started winning and building something and now he’s on a roll.
I’ve given smart credit for the fact that he’s dominated the sec east. For Mullen to have coached in the sec west, and at Mississippi state no less, which may be the toughest place to recruit in the entire sec, and have any measure of success is pretty much unprecedented. Ask yourself this... since saban came in and alabama ascended, what sec west coach has left on their own terms? The only one I can think of is Dan Mullen. For that matter, name a Mississippi State coach who left on his own terms? Again, I can only name one. To me, taking that job at all was a mistake. He could have gotten a better gig in a year or two, but he took it and they had as successful a stretch as they ever had. He’s never had to recruit bc he was working with Urban Meyer who is about as good a recruiter as anyone, and he was at Mississippi state where even the best recruiter will have trouble. As he continues to succeed and put people in the league recruiting will come.
I think we’re going to see also how well smart does with a target on his back. You’re going to start getting everyone’s best shot now. Beating you guys will make any division rivals season, and talent alone may not allow you to roll everyone like you have the past couple seasons.
And you were the one who said he’d never win a division title lol! I’m sure there’s a dress that would give you a nice silhouette!
Tennessee offered him. And who offered smart a hc job before uga?
I’m pretty sure Mullen had several offers but none from the SEC and he wanted to stay there.
At the time we hired him, muschamp was the hottest asst coach in the country. Knowing what I knew then I’d make that same offer everyday and twice on Sunday. Mcelwain was, I believe, our AD’s “cost effective” choice, which, if true, kind of pisses me off. Football is your breadwinner and pays for everything else. It’s the place you don’t get stingy. No one cares that your women’s lax team is winning if the football team tanks.
Mullen was looking for a promotion. He’d made Mississippi state relevant so taking a gig at a place like Maryland or Colorado was a step back. There were only a few gigs that were clear improvements and that’s why he hadn’t moved on.
I'm not discounting Mullen as a coach as much as my contention is that Kirby is better. I get your point on improving recruiting and do think Mullen will be better at Florida because he has a better product to sell recruits. However, Indo think a lot of recruiting is personality and being able to really connect with recruits. Kirby excels at that.
Although Kirby has been coaching all his life (like all theae cosches) you don't really feel the pressure (whether to go for it on 4th down, when to call a timeout, when to punt, etc) when the game is on line until your the head coach. An former offensive coordinator (like Mullen) turned head coach probably has an advantage to some of these than a former defensive coordinator (like Kirby) but even an offensive xoordinatir can get overruled by the head coach so he really isn't making those final decisions.
Remember Kirby got Georgia to the National Championship game in his second year. It shouldn't be that surprising that a second year head coach makes a boneheaded call here or there when the spotlight is brightest. I'm sure he has thought about some of those calls a million times over since. He has to learn from them no doubt.
You are right that we will get everyone's best shot and we can't have games like we played at LSU or Texas and win the national championship. No doubt Kirby's early success means that a national championship is the expectation. And that's way better than our Richt years were we would have been ecstatic just to beat the Gators.
4th & Dumb just has a 'bagman' advantage,,, until that's discovered and the walls come down hard on the doghouse... 
Not my narrative Oozie. It's not the attendance figure trolling as much as his tweet about players leaving the program bs, and, oh yeah, they're taking note. Even Gators are saying some interesting things... courtesy of Nay'quan Wright.
LOL... moving the goalposts. It's the same with Jameis. He's from Bama, and you don't win your last one without him.
You really have no idea what you're talking about with high school football talent.
Either wrong or you're lying. He turned Auburn down... they pursued. You know it. SC was pursuing when Georgia offered.
I think it would be ridiculous to not tip your hat to what kirby has done the past couple seasons. As our fans can tell you, after having had a guy who succeeded pretty early in his career, it can go south pretty damn fast as well! I think smarts best qualities as a coach are as a recruiter, obvs, and he can put together a very effective game plan. Those two things will get you a lot of success.
His weakness does seem to be in game adjustments when the game plan isn’t working. I know people harp on the whole “4th and dumb” thing, but I dont think that cost you guys the game. I’m not sure you could have stopped them no matter what. That was a damn good alabama team and they turned the lights on and were not going to be denied.
We’ll just have to see how it plays out. I think kirby will have to come back to earth a little bit, as the SEC east won’t always suck. I’m guessing there will be plenty to debate in the years that come.
Actually you’re the one moving the goal posts in your typically obtuse fashion and inability to pay attention to factual points being made. We have always had Florida talent as our foundation. We supplement with outside talent. Yes from Georgia because as I said you can get some quality players out of there. Also note I stated Alabama is a place you can build a championship foundation upon so Jameis coming from Bama is the dumbest point you could have made on a lot of levels. Congratulations on wasting all of our time.
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