Proprietary COVID-19 and Vaccine thread
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I hate these types more than they hate the rules as much as we do.I see they hate their rules as much as I do. Not the first time a libtard mayor got busted for violating their own mask mandates.
Hypocrisy: D.C. Mayor Caught Violating Mask Mandate Again
D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser (D) was caught breaking her mask mandate again while attending a legislative summit Thursday.www.breitbart.com
What's sad is THIS is the only thing you have EVER said about COVID and the vaccine (which I remind you that you got) that is actually CORRECT.
TLDR
That's true for any research.
With one massive caveat: Assuming the sample isn't tainted at the onset.
Forget medicine 101, some of you need to go back to stats 101.
Congrats bro, when @GhostOfMatchesMalone puts you on ignore that is the CLOSEST you will EVER get to him admitting YOU ARE RIGHT and HE IS WRONG
I actually have more respect for @GhostOfMatchesMalone though, he really is a true believer, he will never get the vaccine, he is consistent.
As opposed to @jfegaly who continues to attack me and the science YET got the vaccine
They don't hate the rules, they are just too important for rules to apply to them ...I see they hate their rules as much as I do. Not the first time a libtard mayor got busted for violating their own mask mandates.
Hypocrisy: D.C. Mayor Caught Violating Mask Mandate Again
D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser (D) was caught breaking her mask mandate again while attending a legislative summit Thursday.
TLDRCongrats bro, when @GhostOfMatchesMalone puts you on ignore that is the CLOSEST you will EVER get to him admitting YOU ARE RIGHT and HE IS WRONG
I actually have more respect for @GhostOfMatchesMalone though, he really is a true believer, he will never get the vaccine, he is consistent.
As opposed to @jfegaly who continues to attack me and the science YET got the vaccine
You can have the ad hominems, I'll stand with the medical research and the numbers. They are overwhelmingly in favor of vaccination.
First person I know of to block me. Doesn't change anything for me though.Congrats bro, when @GhostOfMatchesMalone puts you on ignore that is the CLOSEST you will EVER get to him admitting YOU ARE RIGHT and HE IS WRONG
I actually have more respect for @GhostOfMatchesMalone though, he really is a true believer, he will never get the vaccine, he is consistent.
As opposed to @jfegaly who continues to attack me and the science YET got the vaccine
April 4-June 19
Total number of cases: 615,454
Total Hospitalizations: 37,948
Total Hospitalizations in NOT FULLY VACCINATED: 34,972
Total Hospitalizations in FULLY VACCINATED: 2,976
Total Deaths from COVID in NOT FULLY VACCINATED: 6,132
Total Deaths from COVID in FULLY VACCINATED: 616
Total % Deaths in NOT FULLY VACCINATED: 91% of all COVID Deaths over this time frame
Total % of Hospitalizations in NOT FULLY VACCINATED: 92% of all COVID Hospitalizations over this time frame
States Studied: ** Alabama, Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Los Angeles County (California), Louisiana, Maryland, Minnesota, New Mexico, New York City (New York), North Carolina, Seattle/King County (Washington), and Utah.
Total number of cases: 615,454
Total Hospitalizations: 37,948
Total Hospitalizations in NOT FULLY VACCINATED: 34,972
Total Hospitalizations in FULLY VACCINATED: 2,976
Total Deaths from COVID in NOT FULLY VACCINATED: 6,132
Total Deaths from COVID in FULLY VACCINATED: 616
Total % Deaths in NOT FULLY VACCINATED: 91% of all COVID Deaths over this time frame
Total % of Hospitalizations in NOT FULLY VACCINATED: 92% of all COVID Hospitalizations over this time frame
States Studied: ** Alabama, Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Los Angeles County (California), Louisiana, Maryland, Minnesota, New Mexico, New York City (New York), North Carolina, Seattle/King County (Washington), and Utah.
Congrats bro, when @GhostOfMatchesMalone puts you on ignore that is the CLOSEST you will EVER get to him admitting YOU ARE RIGHT and HE IS WRONG
I actually have more respect for @GhostOfMatchesMalone though, he really is a true believer, he will never get the vaccine, he is consistent.
As opposed to @jfegaly who continues to attack me and the science YET got the vaccine
TLDR
We’re in rural NoVA. Hour from Loudoun county (Winchester), and smaller area…region 4B out of 6. We were 7-1 last year in a shortened season. Likely 3-11 next year if I had to guess.
It’s still pretty high quality lacrosse though. Both my boys play travel in Loudoun and get their asses handed to them almost daily. It’s good for them when they get back here.
Absolutely love that area of Virginia. Very famous in the Civil War too. The quintessential Shenandoah Valley area. Jealous of you man. Great place to live.
Blah blah blah.... I can assume this is the same % information I heard yesterday morning on the local news. They said our city was over 60% vaccinated. Potter and Randall Counties cover our city. Potter has 30% vaccinated and Randall has 30% vaccinated. Now can you see the problem with the math here or do I have to spell it out for you?
I'm so sick and tired of seeing these quotes of numbers from you to prove your love for vaccinations. Every day I hear of someone having been fully vaccinated getting sicker than a dog from the vaccine when they were not sick before. My wife's friend told her just last night that her husband's doctor recommended he not get a second vaccine. That he was done with vaccines. In other words, stop because it doesn't work.
A study with over 615,000 patients including 13 states. That is a massive amount of data And a more than fair representative sampling for a country. Do I have to spell that out for you?
If I do I would spell it out as:
Indisputable
And if you know a damn thing about statistics you know that is correct.
Open your mind as well as your eyes my friend. Think, don’t just react.
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Amazing how actual data can shut a crowd up.
Keep searching google boys, I'm sure you can find a tweet to post soon.
I mean, why believe this large a group of distinguished scientist when you can believe someone with a bachelors in History and Economics or a televangelist!!
Heather M. Scobie, PhD1; Amelia G. Johnson, DrPH1; Amitabh B. Suthar, PharmD2; Rachel Severson, MS3; Nisha B. Alden, MPH3; Sharon Balter, MD4; Daniel Bertolino, MPH5; David Blythe, MD6; Shane Brady, MPH7; Betsy Cadwell, MSPH1; Iris Cheng, MS5; Sherri Davidson, PhD8; Janelle Delgadillo9; Katelynn Devinney, MPH5; Jeff Duchin, MD10; Monique Duwell, MD6; Rebecca Fisher, MPH4; Aaron Fleischauer, PhD11; Ashley Grant, MPH12; Jennifer Griffin, PhD4; Meredith Haddix, MPH4; Julie Hand, MSPH12; Matt Hanson, MD10; Eric Hawkins, MS13; Rachel K. Herlihy, MD3; Liam Hicks, MPH7; Corinne Holtzman, MPH14; Mikhail Hoskins, MPH11; Judie Hyun, MHS6; Ramandeep Kaur, PhD8; Meagan Kay, DVM10; Holly Kidrowski, MPH14; Curi Kim, MSPH6; Kenneth Komatsu, MPH7; Kiersten Kugeler, PhD1; Melissa Lewis, MPH1; B. Casey Lyons, MPH2; Shelby Lyons, MPH12; Ruth Lynfield, MD14; Keegan McCaffrey7; Chelsea McMullen, MS15; Lauren Milroy, MPH13; Stephanie Meyer, MPH14; Leisha Nolen, MD9; Monita R. Patel, PhD1; Sargis Pogosjans, MPH10; Heather E. Reese, PhD1; Amy Saupe, MPH14; Jessica Sell, MPH5; Theresa Sokol, MPH12; Daniel Sosin, MD15; Emma Stanislawski, MPH15; Kelly Stevens, MS8; Hailey Vest, MPH13; Kelly White, MPH13; Erica Wilson, MD11; Adam MacNeil, PhD1; Matthew D. Ritchey2; Benjamin J. Silk, PhD1
Keep searching google boys, I'm sure you can find a tweet to post soon.
I mean, why believe this large a group of distinguished scientist when you can believe someone with a bachelors in History and Economics or a televangelist!!
Heather M. Scobie, PhD1; Amelia G. Johnson, DrPH1; Amitabh B. Suthar, PharmD2; Rachel Severson, MS3; Nisha B. Alden, MPH3; Sharon Balter, MD4; Daniel Bertolino, MPH5; David Blythe, MD6; Shane Brady, MPH7; Betsy Cadwell, MSPH1; Iris Cheng, MS5; Sherri Davidson, PhD8; Janelle Delgadillo9; Katelynn Devinney, MPH5; Jeff Duchin, MD10; Monique Duwell, MD6; Rebecca Fisher, MPH4; Aaron Fleischauer, PhD11; Ashley Grant, MPH12; Jennifer Griffin, PhD4; Meredith Haddix, MPH4; Julie Hand, MSPH12; Matt Hanson, MD10; Eric Hawkins, MS13; Rachel K. Herlihy, MD3; Liam Hicks, MPH7; Corinne Holtzman, MPH14; Mikhail Hoskins, MPH11; Judie Hyun, MHS6; Ramandeep Kaur, PhD8; Meagan Kay, DVM10; Holly Kidrowski, MPH14; Curi Kim, MSPH6; Kenneth Komatsu, MPH7; Kiersten Kugeler, PhD1; Melissa Lewis, MPH1; B. Casey Lyons, MPH2; Shelby Lyons, MPH12; Ruth Lynfield, MD14; Keegan McCaffrey7; Chelsea McMullen, MS15; Lauren Milroy, MPH13; Stephanie Meyer, MPH14; Leisha Nolen, MD9; Monita R. Patel, PhD1; Sargis Pogosjans, MPH10; Heather E. Reese, PhD1; Amy Saupe, MPH14; Jessica Sell, MPH5; Theresa Sokol, MPH12; Daniel Sosin, MD15; Emma Stanislawski, MPH15; Kelly Stevens, MS8; Hailey Vest, MPH13; Kelly White, MPH13; Erica Wilson, MD11; Adam MacNeil, PhD1; Matthew D. Ritchey2; Benjamin J. Silk, PhD1
It’s a little too close to WV if you know what I mean. Few too many confederate flags flying off diesel dualies.
But it’s pretty, the people are nice and we get four actual seasons.
Oh I know what you mean. I spent four years in Lexington KY and used to drive through West Virginia a lot headed to DC or Williamsburg.
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If the shots worked then why the nonstop gaslighting and astroturfing?
Wow this thread really dies when you block the cheerleaders LOL
The science is settled.
April 4-June 19
Total number of cases: 615,454
Total Hospitalizations: 37,948
Total Hospitalizations in NOT FULLY VACCINATED: 34,972
Total Hospitalizations in FULLY VACCINATED: 2,976
Total Deaths from COVID in NOT FULLY VACCINATED: 6,132
Total Deaths from COVID in FULLY VACCINATED: 616
Total % Deaths in NOT FULLY VACCINATED: 91% of all COVID Deaths over this time frame
Total % of Hospitalizations in NOT FULLY VACCINATED: 92% of all COVID Hospitalizations over this time frame
States Studied: ** Alabama, Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Los Angeles County (California), Louisiana, Maryland, Minnesota, New Mexico, New York City (New York), North Carolina, Seattle/King County (Washington), and Utah.
Current indications are that the Delta variant will be the dominant variant from which future variants evolve (Science, Sep 7, 2021):
Weekly submissions to the leading international sequence repository, GISAID, “right now are well north of 40,000,” says Duncan MacCannell, who heads the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) program that coordinates U.S. genomic surveillance. By comparison, it took 11 months—until November 2020—for the country’s first 40,000 sequences to be deposited. “We are doing amazingly” in numbers of samples sequenced, says Trevor Bedford, a computational biologist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. “I have no concerns about a new variant slipping by unnoticed.”
At the moment, sequencers around the country are seeing a deluge of Delta. The highly contagious variant accounted for 99.1% of cases in the United States by late August, up from 7.5% in late May, according to CDC. “We saw Delta sweep in in the blink of an eye,” says integrative biologist Lauren Ancel Meyers of the University of Texas, Austin. “But that can change.”
For example, coronavirus watchers noted in July that another variant, Mu, accounted for 9% of 101 sequenced cases in Florida’s Jackson Memorial Health System and the University of Miami’s UHealth Tower. Mu was first spotted in Colombia, where it made up 69% of cases in early July; last week the World Health Organization (WHO) declared it a variant of interest (VOI). Mu carries a mutation, E484K, that likely helps SARS-CoV-2 blunt vaccine and infection-induced immunity.
But Delta seems to readily outcompete Mu. In the Miami hospitals “by early August we were at approximately 97% Delta” and remain there, says pathologist David Andrews of the University of Miami. In Colombia, as of late August, Mu was down to 63% whereas Delta had surged from 6% to 19%. In Andrews’s samples, Delta “has displaced virtually all other lineages,” he says.
“The virus could surprise us but I would bet that Delta is going to fully sweep and [become] the common ancestor of all viruses in the next few months,” Bedford says. That’s likely “where the next variant will emerge from.”
Weekly submissions to the leading international sequence repository, GISAID, “right now are well north of 40,000,” says Duncan MacCannell, who heads the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) program that coordinates U.S. genomic surveillance. By comparison, it took 11 months—until November 2020—for the country’s first 40,000 sequences to be deposited. “We are doing amazingly” in numbers of samples sequenced, says Trevor Bedford, a computational biologist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. “I have no concerns about a new variant slipping by unnoticed.”
At the moment, sequencers around the country are seeing a deluge of Delta. The highly contagious variant accounted for 99.1% of cases in the United States by late August, up from 7.5% in late May, according to CDC. “We saw Delta sweep in in the blink of an eye,” says integrative biologist Lauren Ancel Meyers of the University of Texas, Austin. “But that can change.”
For example, coronavirus watchers noted in July that another variant, Mu, accounted for 9% of 101 sequenced cases in Florida’s Jackson Memorial Health System and the University of Miami’s UHealth Tower. Mu was first spotted in Colombia, where it made up 69% of cases in early July; last week the World Health Organization (WHO) declared it a variant of interest (VOI). Mu carries a mutation, E484K, that likely helps SARS-CoV-2 blunt vaccine and infection-induced immunity.
But Delta seems to readily outcompete Mu. In the Miami hospitals “by early August we were at approximately 97% Delta” and remain there, says pathologist David Andrews of the University of Miami. In Colombia, as of late August, Mu was down to 63% whereas Delta had surged from 6% to 19%. In Andrews’s samples, Delta “has displaced virtually all other lineages,” he says.
“The virus could surprise us but I would bet that Delta is going to fully sweep and [become] the common ancestor of all viruses in the next few months,” Bedford says. That’s likely “where the next variant will emerge from.”
Thought it was interesting that Delta was kicking Mu's butt in Florida...You don’t say-Charles Darwin
So this is interesting. Also there's this data from the CDC:
COVID Data Tracker Weekly Review
The week’s key data, narrative interpretations, & visualizations.
www.cdc.gov
2.8M hospitializations in the last year. Let's be generous and say 4M over the last 18 months.
So the CDC now says over 120M have recovered from covid, and have superior protection to covid than the vaccinated do (not that hard). And let's say 4M have been hospitalized.
That means that for roughly 97% of Americans that got covid, it was so mild they could either treat it at home, or got it and never knew it.
Did we ever get an update on this? We are now halfway through the incubation period. Are we suddenly seeing a massive spike in cases and deaths in the cities that hosted these games?
Just want to confirm who wins the middle finger on this one. But I suspect we all know.
LOL this is not some small pool of people the virus has to "pick from." There are millions of unvaxxed in USoA. So yes you can have vaxes and infections both go up as the unvaxxed continue to get hammered by the virus.
Now a bigger question that needs answering is 1 in 78 TN-ans have covid. If the 3% hospitalization model holds then 3/5 a percent (significantly less than 1%) of the state is hospitalized. TN is overwhelmed by this small number of people.
What happens when some really lethal man made bug hits?
Forget nukes or EMP we are screwed should China pull it off. .
Now a bigger question that needs answering is 1 in 78 TN-ans have covid. If the 3% hospitalization model holds then 3/5 a percent (significantly less than 1%) of the state is hospitalized. TN is overwhelmed by this small number of people.
What happens when some really lethal man made bug hits?
Forget nukes or EMP we are screwed should China pull it off. .
This is definitely not difficult
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100% of the population was 'unvaxxed' this time last year.
A year later, that number has been cut in more than half.
Yet infections keep going up.
Absolutely. That was our biggest fear. Say there’s something we’re five or 10% of the people hospitalized. At that point we start triaging as we used to in the military, walking wounded, serious, and expectant.
In case anybody doesn’t know what expectant means, it means those the ones that we’ve pushed aside and are trying to make comfortable while they die. Because we won’t have the resources to take care of that group then meet a criteria that puts them at a high rate of mortality no matter what we do.
A bit of interesting good news though, if it were a incredibly deadly virus, like Ebola, thankfully it tends to kill people at such a high rate that it can never spread into a pandemic before it kills off its host. What we really worry about is the one that will kill 5 to 10% of the people it in fax because that’s the one that can spread across the globe and will far out strip our abilities and resources as a medical community.
By the way though, outside western countries, Covid did outstrip the resources in several Third World countries and they had to make the very same decisions we were afraid we’d have to make here.
There is no place for actual evidence in this dojo, only tweets with bad drawings
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