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Proprietary COVID-19 and Vaccine thread

I’d hope my alma mater donates all proceeds to either Tulane AD or hurricane relief
Give it to hurricane victims, don't reward virtue-signally bowtie-wearing clowns at Tulane. No doubt they were counting on selling out the OU game to make this stunt feasible.

That's now blown up in their face, and they should own this. Karma does not care about your agendas.
 
Well first you have to catch it. Based on cases (some people have caught it more than once), you have a roughly 10% chance of getting covid.

If you are part of the unlucky 10% that get covid, then you have roughly a 1% chance of dying.

So let's see......600k covid deaths in a country with 325M people.

10% of 325M is 35M

1% of 325M is 3.5M

0.5% of 325M is 1.75M

0.25% of 325M is 875k

0.20% of 325M is 650kish.

So your chance for 'potential death' from covid is potentially 0.2%. About the same as the seasonal flu.

But I suspect those chances are raised by wearing a heavy cape, so you probably did the right thing in getting that free shot, and wolfing down those free Krispy Kremes.
Regarding probabilities, it is important to keep in mind that these risks compound. You can still get Covid on top of all those other things that kill you, and for me that’s a bad deal since I want to optimize my chances of living. But, my main worry about getting Covid is how hellaciously sick you can get. Yes, dying is obviously worse but even if you live it can be horrible.
 
Vaccinated players do not have to undergo COVID testing.
Wanted to wait and see if any of the shot cheerleaders would point out that getting the covid shot doesn't immunize you from covid.

We have several posters here that claim to be internet doctors, and say we should take them seriously.

Yet none of them pointed out that you can still get and spread covid after getting the shot.

If the goal is to stop the spread of covid, you test everyone. Getting the shot doesnt mean you can no longer get or spread covid.

Either the internet doctors here didn't know that, or their agendas blinded them from mentioning it.

This is why you guys don't get taken seriously.
 
Wanted to wait and see if any of the shot cheerleaders would point out that getting the covid shot doesn't immunize you from covid.

We have several posters here that claim to be internet doctors, and say we should take them seriously.

Yet none of them pointed out that you can still get and spread covid after getting the shot.

If the goal is to stop the spread of covid, you test everyone. Getting the shot doesnt mean you can no longer get or spread covid.

Either the internet doctors here didn't know that, or their agendas blinded them from mentioning it.

This is why you guys don't get taken seriously.
Doc mcstuffins isn't taken seriously because he has been wrong too many times, has spouted misinformation several times, and....is responsible for the 50th best state hospital system.

Congrats on that.

We are talking about a guy, who was wrong, doubled down, tripled down, and finally came back to his original wrong stance, because.....semantics. It was the lesser of the three wrongs.

Only a fool would listen to his advice at this point.
 
Doc mcstuffins isn't taken seriously because he has been wrong too many times, has spouted misinformation several times, and....is responsible for the 50th best state hospital system.

Congrats on that.

We are talking about a guy, who was wrong, doubled down, tripled down, and finally came back to his original wrong stance, because.....semantics. It was the lesser of the three wrongs.

Only a fool would listen to his advice at this point.
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So did you wear a disguise to get yours?

 
Wanted to wait and see if any of the shot cheerleaders would point out that getting the covid shot doesn't immunize you from covid.

We have several posters here that claim to be internet doctors, and say we should take them seriously.

Yet none of them pointed out that you can still get and spread covid after getting the shot.

If the goal is to stop the spread of covid, you test everyone. Getting the shot doesnt mean you can no longer get or spread covid.

Either the internet doctors here didn't know that, or their agendas blinded them from mentioning it.

This is why you guys don't get taken seriously.
It isn't about being a 'shot cheerleader' or any other name-calling. It is about having a substantive conversation about what is known and what isn't. Vaccinated people do not always (but sometime can) carry the same viral load and they don't typically carry it as long as unvaccinated. Not to mention they don't get as sick (which I just mentioned). Even thought vaccinated people can clearly still spread COVID, they don't do so on average at the same rate as unvaccinated. So no, it doesn't completely immunize you from COVID, but it does help.
 
Oh you want a modern equivalent to help you understand?

This is the dems trying to institute China's social credit system.

Wait, you thought this was about protecting people from covid?

A virus with the same survival rate as the seasonal flu?

Bless your heart.



Go get your shot, 2 free Krispy Kreme donuts, and a Saints ticket for a dollar.

I'm sure what you end up giving up for it will be worth it.


Again, anyone that thinks this is about protecting the public from a virus with a 99% survival rate isn't thinking.

This is about control. China is giving the world the playbook, and the dems in the US like what they are seeing.
 
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Again, anyone that thinks this is about protecting the public from a virus with a 99% survival rate isn't thinking.

This is about control. China is giving the world the playbook, and the dems in the US like what they are seeing.
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It isn't about being a 'shot cheerleader' or any other name-calling. It is about having a substantive conversation about what is known and what isn't.
But you didn't have a conversation. You completely ignored the statement, other than Liking it.

We know that those with the shot can still spread covid.

YOU know that.

Yet when another poster mentioned that Florida wouldn't be testing players IF they got the shot, you Liked it and moved on.

Again, if the goal is to stop the spread of covid, you test everyone.

You know that.
 
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But you didn't have a conversation. You completely ignored the statement, other than Liking it.

We know that those with the shot can still spread covid.

YOU know that.

Yet when another poster mentioned that Florida wouldn't be testing players IF they got the shot, you Liked it and moved on.

Again, if the goal is to stop the spread of covid, you test everyone.

You know that.
I do know that and I acknowledged so. Just like you know that the spreading effect is not the same on average between the two. A balanced discussion fairly considering the merits of both views isn’t a bad thing.
 
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Wanted to wait and see if any of the shot cheerleaders would point out that getting the covid shot doesn't immunize you from covid.

We have several posters here that claim to be internet doctors, and say we should take them seriously.

Yet none of them pointed out that you can still get and spread covid after getting the shot.

If the goal is to stop the spread of covid, you test everyone. Getting the shot doesnt mean you can no longer get or spread covid.

Either the internet doctors here didn't know that, or their agendas blinded them from mentioning it.

This is why you guys don't get taken seriously.
This point is what makes me insane about any type of vaccine segregation.

The shots *might* help the person that gets them…but no one is immune.

Oh and today someone in the liberal media finally woke up re: masks.

 
Concerning the use of Ivermectin:

Confirm the price charged for any visit prior to the consultation.
We have reports of some doctors charging exorbitant fees.
(and the sky is blue...)
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Two hundred eighty patients, 173 treated with ivermectin and 107 without ivermectin, were reviewed. Most patients in both groups also received hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, or both. Univariate analysis showed lower mortality in the ivermectin group (15.0% vs 25.2%; OR, 0.52; 95% CI, 0.29-0.96; P = .03). Mortality also was lower among ivermectin-treated patients with severe pulmonary involvement (38.8% vs 80.7%; OR, 0.15; 95% CI, 0.05-0.47; P = .001). No significant differences were found in extubation rates (36.1% vs 15.4%; OR, 3.11; 95% CI, 0.88-11.00; P = .07) or length of stay. After multivariate adjustment for confounders and mortality risks, the mortality difference remained significant (OR, 0.27; 95% CI, 0.09-0.80; P = .03). One hundred ninety-six patients were included in the propensity-matched cohort. Mortality was significantly lower in the ivermectin group (13.3% vs 24.5%; OR, 0.47; 95% CI, 0.22-0.99; P < .05), an 11.2% (95% CI, 0.38%-22.1%) absolute risk reduction, with a number needed to treat of 8.9 (95% CI, 4.5-263).

This linked page has several links to other studies.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33065103/

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From another of those links:

Conclusions: Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.

Copyright © 2021 The Author(s). Published by Wolters Kluwer Health, Inc.
This guy speaks your language. Maybe you’ll listen to him.

 
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I do know that and I acknowledged so. Just like you know that the spreading effect is not the same on average between the two. A balanced discussion fairly considering the merits of both views isn’t a bad thing.
Then why did you simply Like @gator1776's post and move on? Why not point out that it's not a good idea to stop testing players who have gotten the shot?

A fair and balanced discussion can't happen if you walk right past it.
 
This point is what makes me insane about any type of vaccine segregation.

The shots *might* help the person that gets them…but no one is immune.

Oh and today someone in the liberal media finally woke up re: masks.

It's virtue-signalling and an attempt at PR.

Which should infuriate anyone that claims to actually care about stopping the spread of covid.
 
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Then why did you simply Like @gator1776's post and move on? Why not point out that it's not a good idea to stop testing players who have gotten the shot?

A fair and balanced discussion can't happen if you walk right past it.
Not every post gets a comment. I also liked one of your other posts without comment. If I think I have something to add to a post, then I will comment. If I agree with a post or think that it advances a conversation then I usually throw a like at it.
I’m not sure what the logic is behind not testing, but I would think consistently testing all players would be more prudent. But if they are incentivizing players to get vaxxed, then maybe it’s a good idea in that sense.
As far as walking right by, I will do that often. When I do choose to converse, I’ll try a balanced approach.
 
QUESTION for the group.

I am filling out death certificates today. I had to certify the cause of death 16 certificates in August. All but 2 had COVID. What I list will be their official cause of death For the state records.

They all died because they had COVID inducted ARDS and Hypoxic Respiratory Failure Refractory to Therapy. None of them would have been in the hospital or died had they not contracted COVID. None were vaccinated.
Some had long standing obesity
Some had long sanding controlled diabetes
Some had long standing hypertension
A few had no known medical problems at all

So, in you opinion, what should I have listed as their cause of death?

And no, @instaGATOR , Medical malpractice is not one of the options.
 
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I really think hospitals should allow doctors to try giving this medicine if a doctor wants to try it and a family wants to try it. There’s really not outstanding evidence that it does a damn thing but it’s not any worse than some of the other medicines we gave that have equally no evidence or worse evidence. I don’t see the harm in trying this even though I’m not convinced it works. And I’ve noticed since I sent my own letter questioning the ethics of using Remdesivir when there’s evidence to show that it doesn’t work and has toxic side effects like renal failure but not allowing us to try ivermectin it’s just Morley and ethically inconsistent, that there’s still a great reluctance to even consider trying it. I mean when you’re at the end and he got nothing else to try, as long as it’s not Harmful, why not.

At least that’s the conclusion of come to you after two weeks of struggling with the medical inconsistency and bias towards one unproven therapy over another.
 
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I really think hospitals should allow doctors to try giving this medicine if a doctor wants to try it and a family wants to try it. There’s really not outstanding evidence that it does a damn thing but it’s not any worse than some of the other medicines we gave that have equally no evidence or worse evidence. I don’t see the harm in trying this even though I’m not convinced it works. And I’ve noticed since I sent my own letter questioning the ethics of using Remdesivir when there’s evidence to show that it doesn’t work and has toxic side effects like renal failure but not allowing us to try ivermectin it’s just Morley and ethically inconsistent, that there’s still a great reluctance to even consider trying it. I mean when you’re at the end and he got nothing else to try, as long as it’s not Harmful, why not.

At least that’s the conclusion of come to you after two weeks of struggling with the medical inconsistency and bias towards one unproven therapy over another.
All that said I really wish people would just vaccinate instead which would make this whole controversy of which Hail Mary pass to throw when you’re down by six with half a second left in the fourth quarter completely unnecessary
 
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I really think hospitals should allow doctors to try giving this medicine if a doctor wants to try it and a family wants to try it. There’s really not outstanding evidence that it does a damn thing but it’s not any worse than some of the other medicines we gave that have equally no evidence or worse evidence. I don’t see the harm in trying this even though I’m not convinced it works. And I’ve noticed since I sent my own letter questioning the ethics of using Remdesivir when there’s evidence to show that it doesn’t work and has toxic side effects like renal failure but not allowing us to try ivermectin it’s just Morley and ethically inconsistent, that there’s still a great reluctance to even consider trying it. I mean when you’re at the end and he got nothing else to try, as long as it’s not Harmful, why not.

At least that’s the conclusion of come to you after two weeks of struggling with the medical inconsistency and bias towards one unproven therapy over another.
That my deal. When you’re down 7 on your own 40 with seconds left, why hand off the ball to your stud RB?

Fauci is scolding based on toxicity? If I’m dying and brake fluid will save my life give me the brake fluid. I’ll deal with the issues later.
 
QUESTION for the group.

I am filling out death certificates today. I had to certify the cause of death 16 certificates in August. All but 2 had COVID. What I list will be their official cause of death For the state records.

They all died because they had COVID inducted ARDS and Hypoxic Respiratory Failure Refractory to Therapy. None of them would have been in the hospital or died had they not contracted COVID. None were vaccinated.
Some had long standing obesity
Some had long sanding controlled diabetes
Some had long standing hypertension
A few had no known medical problems at all

So, in you opinion, what should I have listed as their cause of death?

And no, @instaGATOR , Medical malpractice is not one of the options.

If they died FROM covid, put down that.

If they died WITH covid, put down that.
 
All that said I really wish people would just vaccinate instead which would make this whole controversy of which Hail Mary pass to throw when you’re down by six with half a second left in the fourth quarter completely unnecessary
Because the shot is 100% safe and there's 0% chance anything bad will happen from taking it.

Glad you cleared that up.

We'll just ignore the fact that the CDC said a month ago that it doesn't even work.

SMDH
 
That my deal. When you’re down 7 on your own 40 with seconds left, why hand off the ball to your stud RB?

Fauci is scolding based on toxicity? If I’m dying and brake fluid will save my life give me the brake fluid. I’ll deal with the issues later.
I’m inclined to agree. And these people that I keep watching die over and over again, why the hell not.
 
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Sisters hospital lost a teen yesterday. No KNOWN other health conditions.

Here are the options we have unfortunately. As zdogg put it, we all have a date with covid. It’s what your date looks like.

1. Singles date night. Just you and covid
2. You, vaccine and covid
3. You, vaccine, and vaccine doesn’t let covid in the car when you pick her up

You prefer 3somes or one on one?

Not advocating either way, just that covid isn’t going away
 
Sisters hospital lost a teen yesterday. No KNOWN other health conditions.

Here are the options we have unfortunately. As zdogg put it, we all have a date with covid. It’s what your date looks like.

1. Singles date night. Just you and covid
2. You, vaccine and covid
3. You, vaccine, and vaccine doesn’t let covid in the car when you pick her up

You prefer 3somes or one on one?

Not advocating either way, just that covid isn’t going away
Nope. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if some of us have already gotten and recovered from covid and didn't even know it.
 
Sisters hospital lost a teen yesterday. No KNOWN other health conditions.

Here are the options we have unfortunately. As zdogg put it, we all have a date with covid. It’s what your date looks like.

1. Singles date night. Just you and covid
2. You, vaccine and covid
3. You, vaccine, and vaccine doesn’t let covid in the car when you pick her up

You prefer 3somes or one on one?

Not advocating either way, just that covid isn’t going away
I actually like this one man.
 
QUESTION for the group.

I am filling out death certificates today. I had to certify the cause of death 16 certificates in August. All but 2 had COVID. What I list will be their official cause of death For the state records.

They all died because they had COVID inducted ARDS and Hypoxic Respiratory Failure Refractory to Therapy. None of them would have been in the hospital or died had they not contracted COVID. None were vaccinated.
Some had long standing obesity
Some had long sanding controlled diabetes
Some had long standing hypertension
A few had no known medical problems at all

So, in you opinion, what should I have listed as their cause of death?

And no, @instaGATOR , Medical malpractice is not one of the options.

5G cell towers.
 
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QUESTION for the group.

I am filling out death certificates today. I had to certify the cause of death 16 certificates in August. All but 2 had COVID. What I list will be their official cause of death For the state records.

They all died because they had COVID inducted ARDS and Hypoxic Respiratory Failure Refractory to Therapy. None of them would have been in the hospital or died had they not contracted COVID. None were vaccinated.
Some had long standing obesity
Some had long sanding controlled diabetes
Some had long standing hypertension
A few had no known medical problems at all

So, in you opinion, what should I have listed as their cause of death?

And no, @instaGATOR , Medical malpractice is not one of the options.

Cause of death: Taking medical advice from internet randos instead of actual doctors.
 
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