Proprietary COVID-19 and Vaccine thread

[Capt Ron 1]

Hey, just personal experience, everybody’s talking about Covid flaring back up, I got a Tell ya, We have zero Covid cases in the hospital right now. And we are the major hospital for 100 miles in any direction. We’re not seeing that on the gulf coast. At least not yet.

So zero reason for any mask wearing or social isolation BS policies right now. I don’t even see a reason for a vaccine right now unless they can guess the right strain that’s gonna come around this year.

Just FYI

Strange...I live in NW fla and are hearing of MANY people getting covid. I belong to a few Royal Caribbean sites, and a bunch of people are getting off cruise ships and infected. I hope it does not come back w a vengeance. BTW, I atarted hearing of infections about 3 weeks ago. We have 2 people at my work that either caught covid, or family member s have

 

[instaGATOR]

The worst case is listening to Doc-tors (quacks) that are more interested in their income, than they are in protecting or curing patients.

To address that, here's the best alternative imo:

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[gator1776]

Recommendation​

• There is insufficient evidence for the Panel to recommend either for or against the use of vitamin D for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19.

Vitamin D | COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines

Read information about vitamin D and COVID-19.

www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov

 

[gator1776]

Strange...I live in NW fla and are hearing of MANY people getting covid. I belong to a few Royal Caribbean sites, and a bunch of people are getting off cruise ships and infected. I hope it does not come back w a vengeance. BTW, I atarted hearing of infections about 3 weeks ago. We have 2 people at my work that either caught covid, or family member s have

Oh, I don’t doubt the infections are out there. Everybody’s going back to school and that’s going to cause some infections to pop up. The point I’m making is is not severe. We have zero hospitalized patients. It’s becoming less and less virulent.

Basically, it’s returning to a seasonal cold, which is what you expect and good. We just have to hope that a very virulent strain does not pop up anytime soon.

But I’m sure the media will whip up at the hysteria again as well the bureaucrats.

 

[instaGATOR]

Using the FLCCC.com protocols including Ivermectin and HCQ, I knocked out Co-V in 4 days.

Others are free to make their own health care decisions, as it should always be.... 🤓

 

[BamaFan1137]

I think would be pretty obvious. Training and experience generally equates to a better understanding and knowledge.

There's no doubt. However, his point was still valid and you understood the point he was making. You just don’t feel comfortable with lay people, or commoners as you may prefer, making such comments.

Sincere question, as you can be a reasonable person in my experience, Do you think I understand what it takes to be a police officer because I watch Cops?

Absolutely not. But I don't have an issue with you having an opinion nor making a statement based on that opinion or your life experience. And you have done just that...which is just fine.

If that opinion is 100% wrong and it's so ignorant that it's dangerous and irresponsible, I might tell you so (or I might ignore the ignorance???). That's not the case here. Advising people to eat right and exercise is not dangerous advice.

If he had said eat right, exercise and ignore your doctors advice if you're genetically predisposed to hypertension, that would have been dangerous advice.

You could have also agreed with his point and then added, "be careful if ______."

But that isn't what you did. I believe that I know why...but I'm not a trained psychologist so maybe I'm also FOS.

 

[grandhavendiddy]

Face diaper Nazis are back

watch this b$tch Biden supporter

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Mask Karen

 

[gator1776]

There's no doubt. However, his point was still valid and you understood the point he was making. You just don’t feel comfortable with lay people, or commoners as you may prefer, making such comments.




Absolutely not. But I don't have an issue with you having an opinion nor making a statement based on that opinion or your life experience. And you have done just that...which is just fine.

If that opinion is 100% wrong and it's so ignorant that it's dangerous and irresponsible, I might tell you so (or I might ignore the ignorance???). That's not the case here. Advising people to eat right and exercise is not dangerous advice.

If he had said eat right, exercise and ignore your doctors advice if you're genetically predisposed to hypertension, that would have been dangerous advice.

You could have also agreed with his point and then added, "be careful if ______."

But that isn't what you did. I believe that I know why...but I'm not a trained psychologist so maybe I'm also FOS.

Okie Dokie

 

[grandhavendiddy]

Strange...I live in NW fla and are hearing of MANY people getting covid. I belong to a few Royal Caribbean sites, and a bunch of people are getting off cruise ships and infected. I hope it does not come back w a vengeance. BTW, I atarted hearing of infections about 3 weeks ago. We have 2 people at my work that either caught covid, or family member s have

Wait. Bro. Did you see 1776’s response? Did Ghost take over his soul? 🤣

 

[BamaFan1137]

Few other points:
It’s not a relatively small group. More than half the patients we took care of had body mass index is below 30 that means more than half with the equivalent of American skinny.

What are you saying here? Are you telling me that more than half of your critical covid patients were average weight to below average weight?

Were they otherwise healthy or were they people dying/suffering from some other disease like cancer, aids, heart, liver or kidney disease?

If not, if you're telling me that otherwise healthy people with average or below BMI's were more than half of your critical care covid patients, I'd frankly have a VERY hard time believing that without evidence. No offense intended, but that contradicts what I've read from other physicians.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Why do you feel the need to personally attack me for sharing my experience?

Are you threatened by what I bring to the board as an actual physician with three years of extensive experience caring for Covid patients?

I have zero need to personally attack you and I don't believe that I did here. I called you out because you do have a tendency to look and talk down to others.

He said eat right and exercise. Somehow that bothered you enough to puff out your chest and recite your credentials. That's odd imo.

If you advised someone to keep their hands on their steering wheel during a traffic stop until given permission from the cop to move their hands, that's not advice that I would fully agree with. However, such advice wouldn't be harmful imo so I'd hardly admonish you for offering it and I certainly wouldn't list my credentials in an effort to make sure you knew how smart I am nor how relatively clueless you are.

Make sense?

 

[instaGATOR]

Maybe it's just me bama, but going by what he's posted here over the last few years, I ignore his kind of chest thumping, income bragging, so-called 'professional advice,' and instead I go where the success rate is much higher, and makes sense, and has worked exceeding well for me. 🤓

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[BamaFan1137]

Maybe it's just me bama, but going by what he's posted here over the last few years, I ignore his kind of chest thumping, income bragging, so-calle 'professional advice' and instead I go where the success rate is much higher, and make sense, and has worked exceeding well for me. 🤓

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FLCCC is The Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance: Dedicated to COVID prevention & treatment, empowering individuals for better health.

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I asked my doctor questions and I listened to his answers. I hired him long before covid so he had earned my trust.

I think perhaps the lack of the dynamic above is why many don't trust our board doc and why he seems to get so offended as a result.

 

[gator1776]

What are you saying here? Are you telling me that more than half of your critical covid patients were average weight to below average weight?

Were they otherwise healthy or were they people dying/suffering from some other disease like cancer, aids, heart, liver or kidney disease?

If not, if you're telling me that otherwise healthy people with average or below BMI's were more than half of your critical care covid patients, I'd frankly have a VERY hard time believing that without evidence. No offense intended, but that contradicts what I've read from other physicians.

Yes
Just like I clearly said that the comorbidities are also related to obesity
Just like I clearly said that the more comorbidities you have the worse your risk is for a bad Covid reaction.
I’ve always said, the more comorbidities you have the higher risk. And the majority of those patients with body mass index is under 30 had comorbidities.
The point originally made was obesity is the major comorbidity, when clearly, that’s not true. Are you less likely to get severe Covid if you’re a healthy person that exercises, of course.
Did I see healthy people that exercise die from Covid over the last three years, absolutely.
Genetics has always played a a bigger role in both Covid and all healthcare issues and people understand or give credit.
Pretty much everything you accuse me of not doing or not saying I did say and do, but I don’t think you read my post with objectivity anymore.
Sometimes you guys should look in the mirror

 

[BamaFan1137]

Yes
Just like I clearly said that the comorbidities are also related to obesity
Just like I clearly said that the more comorbidities you have the worse your risk is for a bad Covid reaction.
I’ve always said, the more comorbidities you have the higher risk. And the majority of those patients with body mass index is under 30 had comorbidities.
The point originally made was obesity is the major comorbidity, when clearly, that’s not true. Are you less likely to get severe Covid if you’re a healthy person that exercises, of course.
Did I see healthy people that exercise die from Covid over the last three years, absolutely.
Genetics has always played a a bigger role in both Covid and all healthcare issues and people understand or give credit.
Pretty much everything you accuse me of not doing or not saying I did say and do, but I don’t think you read my post with objectivity anymore.
Sometimes you guys should look in the mirror

Somehow we're both missing what the other person is saying. I know that you are but based on this response, I'm not hearing something that you are saying either.

I'll leave it there.

 

[instaGATOR]

The local ducks around here can always be heard,,,,quack, quack, quacking away..... 🙄

Just like car mechanics, some you can trust, and some you should avoid at all costs....

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I asked my doctor questions and I listened to his answers. I hired him long before covid so he had earned my trust.

I think perhaps the lack of the dynamic above is why many don't trust our board doc and why he seems to get so offended as a result.

I don't trust any poster who claims expertise in a particular field, who often posts inaccurate information about said field. Doesn't matter if it's medical, legal, the oil business, or whatever.

But yeah, the bragging about income is a massive red flag. Always has been.

 

[fatman76]

Recommendation​

• There is insufficient evidence for the Panel to recommend either for or against the use of vitamin D for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19.

Vitamin D | COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines

Read information about vitamin D and COVID-19.

www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov

In other words, they aren't sure.

But you are?

 

[fatman76]

I don't trust any poster who claims expertise in a particular field, who often posts inaccurate information about said field. Doesn't matter if it's medical, legal, the oil business, or whatever.

But yeah, the bragging about income is a massive red flag. Always has been.

ITT we learned it's OK to stay inside, eat at Burger King and be a fatty, but stay away from Vitamin D - either through sunlight exposure or supplementation.

I mean you really couldn't make it up if you tried.

 

[fatman76]

I have zero need to personally attack you and I don't believe that I did here. I called you out because you do have a tendency to look and talk down to others.

He said eat right and exercise. Somehow that bothered you enough to puff out your chest and recite your credentials. That's odd imo.

If you advised someone to keep their hands on their steering wheel during a traffic stop until given permission from the cop to move their hands, that's not advice that I would fully agree with. However, such advice wouldn't be harmful imo so I'd hardly admonish you for offering it and I certainly wouldn't list my credentials in an effort to make sure you knew how smart I am nor how relatively clueless you are.

Make sense?

He's acting just like Kalim does...hanging on to a technicality to be "right".

Even people who are not in the medical field know that being thin, active and well nourished helps keep other illnesses (such as hypertension and cardiac disease) at bay and can benefit your body's ability to fight off viruses. Conversely eating like crap and being obese and sedentary is going to lead to other bad outcomes.

Of course you have genetic anomalies (my BIL is thin but has high BP), but even for the genetically "challenged" taking care of your health helps your immune system.

edit: Look I'm an expert, I have Google.

Association of Obesity With COVID-19 Severity and Mortality: An Updated Systemic Review, Meta-Analysis, and Meta-Regression

Obesity affects the course of critical illnesses. We aimed to estimate the association of obesity with the severity and mortality in coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) patients.A systematic search was conducted from the inception of the COVID-19 pandemic ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Conclusions​

Our findings suggest that obesity is significantly associated with increased severity and higher mortality among COVID-19 patients. Therefore, the inclusion of obesity or its surrogate body mass index in prognostic scores and improvement of guidelines for patient care management is recommended.

 

[RussellCasse]

What are you saying here? Are you telling me that more than half of your critical covid patients were average weight to below average weight?

Were they otherwise healthy or were they people dying/suffering from some other disease like cancer, aids, heart, liver or kidney disease?

If not, if you're telling me that otherwise healthy people with average or below BMI's were more than half of your critical care covid patients, I'd frankly have a VERY hard time believing that without evidence. No offense intended, but that contradicts what I've read from other physicians.

I wouldn’t expect the truth. When someone is caught lying multiple times….

Anyway…..

Just my two cents.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Oh, I don’t doubt the infections are out there. Everybody’s going back to school and that’s going to cause some infections to pop up. The point I’m making is is not severe. We have zero hospitalized patients. It’s becoming less and less virulent.

Basically, it’s returning to a seasonal cold, which is what you expect and good. We just have to hope that a very little strain does not pop up anytime soon.

But I’m sure the media will whip up at the hysteria again as well the bureaucrats.

Cruise ships spread is very high. There is chatter that some may go to mask mandates. You should see the people threatening to cancel their cruises if they do. 75% are like "NEVER AGAIN...we will immediately cancel"

 

[fatman76]

Strange...I live in NW fla and are hearing of MANY people getting covid. I belong to a few Royal Caribbean sites, and a bunch of people are getting off cruise ships and infected. I hope it does not come back w a vengeance. BTW, I atarted hearing of infections about 3 weeks ago. We have 2 people at my work that either caught covid, or family member s have

It's on a rampage here in NoVA. My son, in his first two weeks of college, said over half the lacrosse team has covid (including him). My buddies' daughter is at JMU and she's got it, said all of her friends do too. She's a wuss and is coming home for the weekend.

Oh and zero players on the lax team missed practice this week due to it. It's like a cold. He said he feels crappy and has a cough but it's not slowing him down...in his first practice he only gave up one goal (plays D Mid because he can't shoot).

 

[gatordad3]

I wouldn’t expect the truth. When someone is caught lying multiple times….

Anyway…..

Just my two cents.

Loannnnnnn Stauuuuurr!

The Doctor Of Common Sense is more of a doctor than the one we know here.

Notice it's the fat chicks having a meltdown over mask wearing.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

ITT we learned it's OK to stay inside, eat at Burger King and be a fatty, but stay away from Vitamin D - either through sunlight exposure or supplementation.

I mean you really couldn't make it up if you tried.

From the same NIH that he touted above:

"To reduce the risk of infection, it is recommended that people at risk of influenza and/or COVID-19 consider taking 10,000 IU/d of vitamin D3 for a few weeks to rapidly raise 25(OH)D concentrations, followed by 5000 IU/d. The goal should be to raise 25(OH)D concentrations above 40–60 ng/mL (100–150 nmol/L)."

Evidence that Vitamin D Supplementation Could Reduce Risk of Influenza and COVID-19 Infections and Deaths

The world is in the grip of the COVID-19 pandemic. Public health measures that can reduce the risk of infection and death in addition to quarantines are desperately needed. This article reviews the roles of vitamin D in reducing the risk of respiratory ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I mean.....how can you claim to be a doctor, and not know that Vitamin D is an effective treatment for flu strains? Red flags everywhere.

 

[fatman76]

I mean.....how can you claim to be a doctor, and not know that Vitamin D is an effective treatment for flu strains? Red flags everywhere.

The answer is either "you can't" or "you shouldn't".

So glad I have a good doctor.

 

[RussellCasse]

The answer is either "you can't" or "you shouldn't".

So glad I have a good doctor.

Let’s not forget. Jill Biden is also a “doctor”

Oath breakers are not doctors

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I need to know who is surprised about this........NOT ME..it is who they ALL are.

GOP demands answers on 'billions' in COVID relief aid that went to 'international' criminals

The House subcommittee on the pandemic is demanding to know what the Biden administration is doing about COVID-19 relief dollars stolen by "international" criminals.

www.foxnews.com

 

[gator1776]

Just did a percutaneous tracheostomy on a patient……
That’s this…….

 

[jsfgators]

Just did a percutaneous tracheostomy on a patient……
That’s this…….

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congrats. seems like a huge achievement. youre probably pretty pumped

 

[fatman76]

congrats. seems like a huge achievement. you're probably pretty pumped

We're pretty lucky to have such an expert on board here.

Should we start a "What I did at Work Today" thread?

 

[gator1776]

Nah
Just thought y’all might find it interesting to see what actual doctors do during the day. It’s a little more, hands-on, then what Internet doctors do.

 

[jsfgators]

Nah
Just thought y’all might find it interesting to see what actual doctors do during the day. It’s a little more, hands-on, then what Internet doctors do.

Sweet. You do what ever the hell that is and tell people to forget things like healthy food and exercise in favor of big pharma solutions. Pretty neat

 

[instaGATOR]

QUACK - QUACK - QUACKING AWAY...... 🙄

While I have no input, nor do I desire one, your choice when picking any kind of a doctor is a very important decision, so be very careful and do your homework before choosing.... 🤓

 

[fatman76]

Sweet. You do what ever the hell that is and tell people to forget things like healthy food and exercise in favor of big pharma solutions. Pretty neat

My dad is a retired doctor and my mom a nurse…I know what a doctor looks like and how they act. I grew up in hospitals.

Most don’t feel the need to brag about routine procedures to prove their meddle. Usually the money and moral/personal satisfaction of helping people is enough.

 

[Gator Fever]

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Nah
Just thought y’all might find it interesting to see what actual doctors do during the day. It’s a little more, hands-on, then what Internet doctors do.

Actual doctors? Father Mulcahy did that in the backseat of an Army jeep.

With a ballpoint pen.

 

[gatordad3]

 

[gatordad3]

Actual doctors? Father Mulcahy did that in the backseat of an Army jeep.

With a ballpoint pen.

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Kumar wasn't even in med school at the time.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Kumar wasn't even in med school at the time.

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Now all we need is @nail1988 posting a video of a guy swinging a hammer saying 'This is what I did today. A bit more complicated than you realized, right?'

Or @BamaFan1137 posting a video of a cop filing out a report and saying "I did this today. What did YOU do?"