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Proprietary COVID-19 and Vaccine thread

I am just getting over my 2nd time catching Covid. The 1st time I got it real bad and finally my hard headed self went and got some ivermectin which took care of it pretty fast. This 2nd time the symptoms were much less and more like a cold but I did have some stinging in the back of one eye which I never got with any cold before. Probably a combination of Covid's mutations and having some immunity made it that mild on me this time.
I got the J&J and several months latger got Covid.

Mine was weird, it was super gastro. One really bad night, slight fever and chills, and then a few days of feeling like I had a virus. And then about 3-5 days of the worst brain fog I've ever had. It was so bad I had to give a presentation in an Executive review and I told everyone not to hold me accountable for anything stupid I said. I felt dumb for almost a week.

Then fine, I was back to the gym in less than 10 days and feeling great.

I'll never get another shot. I try to keep my weight in check, stay in decent shape, and I'm going to let my immune system fight the fight. If I die it was my time.

I will take vitamins and IVM if I get sick again though.
 
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Fauci: I Have No Problem Testifying — ‘I Can Defend Everything I’ve Said and Done’​


Former NIAID director Dr. Anthony Fauci said Friday on FNC’s “Your World” that he has no problem testifying before Congress about his actions during the COVID-19 pandemic.

When asked if he would testify to Congress, Fauci said, “Well, of course. I have a great deal of respect, Neil, for the process of oversight. I really do. I have nothing to hide. I can explain everything that I’ve done during the period of time that I was involved in that process. I have no trouble with testifying before the Congress at all. Like I said, I respect greatly the process of oversight in our government.”

Anchor Neil Cavuto said, “Because they’re going to target what you did, how you did it, and inconsistent moves in the earliest days, saying you didn’t need masks, later on saying you do need masks. You know, saying that this could be maybe an isolated problem before it got to be a big problem, and then criticizing you for saying it ended up being the very big problem you predicted it would be. So they want to get into this with you. It could get nasty. Are you prepared for that?”

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I think we're still trying to figure all of that out. There's not nearly as much funding for a study that could show the risks outweigh the benefit, but there are data signals that suggest:

1) Covid vaccines clearly result in a surge of antibody activity by "fooling" the immune system into creating spike proteins that look like the virus, which in turn causes the same immune system to create antibodies. This seems to convey some protection from/prevention of the cytokine storm (hyper inflammatory response that puts many into the hospital) by giving your immune system a head start in killing the virus.
- The only issue is, the spike of the virus mutates quickly, and the antibodies created from a real infection carry broader protection against different variants. Some estimates put current vaccine efficacy at 30% due to this.

2) It seems that the protection from the vaccines is about a 90 day window. After that, it's possible that the immune response is actually degraded...when you hear reports of a majority of the people dying/in the hospital are vaxxed it's probably because they are too far from their last vaccine.

3) Booster create antibodies...but they have the same flaws as the original shots. Short lived protection, followed by a period of likely increased risk of infection.

4) Lastly, the vaccines can cause serious side effects, even the manufacturer's admit this. They are indemnified from liability first by the EUA, but when that expired the approval for use in children provided them ongoing protection (we have a law that if a vax is approved for use in kids under 5 the manufacturer is indemnified from all injury liability - I think it stemmed from the Polio vaccine). 1,433 of the 1.1MM deaths from Covid were kids age 0-17...that's 0.13%. Not 13%, 0.1%. This statistic also doesn't track comorbidities - meaning those 1433 lives lost were probably already very sick.

To me the summary is this: you have two choices. You can get on the booster train, but if not getting Covid is the goal you need to stay on it. Benefits - you're probably 30% better off than someone who's never had Covid or a vax. Risks - vaccine injury (heart issues, stroke, nerve issues like Guillain Barre, etc...there's also some concern about your bodies' ability to fight off certain other diseases, like Cancer, long term).

Choice 2 is to get off the train. Focus on comorbidities (excess weight, cardiovascular health, smoking, etc). If you get sick take vitamins and IVM/HCQ if you're so inclined. Let your immune system fight the fight with the hope the antibodies you create are better. There are some packaged protocols, this is a popular one https://zstacklife.com/?ref=aet6ilomcs
Risks? Some Covid cases are fatal or seriously debilitating.

But after a period of time (a year?) most likely the vax isn't going to do anything for you. I highly recommend following Berenson's substack linked above, and dig through it to do your own research. Other voices that aren't following the CDC guidelines but have credibility:

Good luck with whatever you decide. The answer isn't a one-size fits all approach.
Thank you. I did do research and had covid pretty bad the first time in 2020. Had to go to hospital. The scene of being dropped off by your wife and kids, wondering if you’ll ever get to see them again was something i don’t ever wanna experience. Through mon media research and dialogue with so many people that are close to me medically, I did get the initial round of vaccine but haven’t gotten any boosters. My prior experience was a huge reason as I wanted to never do that hospital scene again…but also with work, giving up all my sick days even when i was quarantined from being around someone (the 10’ rule or whatever). So i was just asking if the vaccine has less side effects if you had covid already and do not get boosted every so often.
 
Thank you. I did do research and had covid pretty bad the first time in 2020. Had to go to hospital. The scene of being dropped off by your wife and kids, wondering if you’ll ever get to see them again was something i don’t ever wanna experience. Through mon media research and dialogue with so many people that are close to me medically, I did get the initial round of vaccine but haven’t gotten any boosters. My prior experience was a huge reason as I wanted to never do that hospital scene again…but also with work, giving up all my sick days even when i was quarantined from being around someone (the 10’ rule or whatever). So i was just asking if the vaccine has less side effects if you had covid already and do not get boosted every so often.
I’m not a doctor. But I think the reactions you get (or side effects of feeling sick) are related to your immune response. I’d assume someone who had Covid would have a stronger response to the vaccine (and feel sicker).

The most logical theory I’ve heard on major side effects - stroke, heart inflammation, etc. - is the spike protein ending up in the wrong places in your body. We were told early on it stays in the deltoid but that seems to be wrong.

I think those types outcomes are just luck of the draw, probably doesn’t matter your history. For me personally, the less artificial spike protein the better.

Covid is never going away - it will part of the viral load for the rest of our lives at least. The good news is viruses tend to mutate to be easier to catch but less and less deadly. It makes sense, because of a virus kills its host it can’t move to the next host.
 
This is really old, but still classic
Reminds me of a 50 something year old lady(who looks more like she's in her early 70's) at the gym who wore a mask along with her plastic face shield. She'd take both of them off while on a treadmill but would grab her towel to cover her face whenever someone walked near her.
I was tempted on several occasions to tell her to GTFO for being a dips**t. I wasn't the only one at the gym who noticed.
 
Reminds me of a 50 something year old lady(who looks more like she's in her early 70's) at the gym who wore a mask along with her plastic face shield. She'd take both of them off while on a treadmill but would grab her towel to cover her face whenever someone walked near her.
I was tempted on several occasions to tell her to GTFO for being a dips**t. I wasn't the only one at the gym who noticed.
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16.9/100k people in his age group have heart attacks. That’s 0.017% of people.

Fewer than 40 Americans aged 15-49 die of heart attacks each year.

But I’m sure it was just bad luck.


 
 
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I think they tried to blame his death on Covid itself but people were claiming it was his heart and they were using one of those nonsense Covid death designations.
 
So in 2020 my sister's employer mandated that all employees had to get the shot to keep working there. She refused and left the company.

She learned this morning that one of her coworkers that stayed on died suddenly a few days ago. He was 33 years old.
man, that's terrible

My radiologist buddy is still in ICU on the vent but he's moving and alert and they hope to get him off the machine soon. He's the one who developed Guiliane Barre a few days after a Pfizer booster.

My wife's heart issue is actually doing really well. She hasn't felt it in weeks.
 
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Who are these parents that thought that was a good idea.

We have to address the mental illness problem in this country.
 
If it was heart related it could be due to the vaccine. They try and cover things up usually when it possibly could be when it comes to the well known vaccine pushers.
She had some pretty serious cardiovascular issues. She had apparently fallen a few times recently and had been diagnosed with early stage heart failure. She was also 77 years old.

In other words, a perfect candidate for mRNA vaccines.

I think we're going to look back on this era with a decent amount of horror and regret someday. Sort of like Carlton cigarettes with Asbestos filters. "Seemed like a good idea at the time"...
 
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She had some pretty serious cardiovascular issues. She had apparently fallen a few times recently and had been diagnosed with early stage heart failure. She was also 77 years old.

In other words, a perfect candidate for mRNA vaccines.

I think we're going to look back on this era with a decent amount of horror and regret someday. Sort of like Carlton cigarettes with Asbestos filters. "Seemed like a good idea at the time"...

Someone like that it's hard to say but I think any pre- 65 year old heart related death has a chance to be vaccine related. Same with the other crazy stuff it's giving to people due to affecting the immune system. It does make you wonder how many fewer people will be making it to 70+ now that we're jabbed earlier in life.
 
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Someone like that it's hard to say but I think any pre- 65 year old heart related death has a chance to be vaccine related. Same with the other crazy stuff it's giving to people due to affecting the immune system. It does make you wonder how many fewer people will be making it to 70+ now that we're jabbed earlier in life.
I think we all need to take a step back and try to focus on the bigger picture.

Are some of these died suddenly’s vax related? Almost for sure. I saw those clots. Once you see that you can’t unsee it.

But people do die of natural causes too.

The reality will hit in the next 2-5 years…watch all-cause mortality, strokes/heart attacks and diseases like cancer over the next few years. If they spike we will know. The excuse of people not going to the Dr because of Covid is getting real long in the tooth already.
 
I think we all need to take a step back and try to focus on the bigger picture.

Are some of these died suddenly’s vax related? Almost for sure. I saw those clots. Once you see that you can’t unsee it.

But people do die of natural causes too.

The reality will hit in the next 2-5 years…watch all-cause mortality, strokes/heart attacks and diseases like cancer over the next few years. If they spike we will know. The excuse of people not going to the Dr because of Covid is getting real long in the tooth already.

Well I think excess deaths are still elevated but my guess is they would try and deflect and say it's due to Covid when not claiming the climate change and gardening is causing more heart issues nonsense. The same Covid they touted if you were vaxxed the symptoms shouldn't be bad.
 
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