Proprietary COVID-19 and Vaccine thread

[fatman76]

Hope you’re wrong
Where do you get that survival data, based off of known cases the survival rate is roughly 98% not 99.98%, do you have a source for that? Serious question not trying to be a smart ass.

CFR vs IFR has been a battle since this started.

This is too old to be of use, but those numbers are most likely pretty different. I think when people cite 99.x% survival they aren't using the known cases as the denominator. Obviously one is a guess and one isn't.

A systematic review and meta-analysis of published research data on COVID-19 infection fatality rates

An important unknown during the coronavirus disease-2019 (COVID-19) pandemic has been the infection fatality rate (IFR). This differs from the case fatality rate (CFR) as an estimate of the number of deaths and as a proportion of the total number of cases, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

Dude I did NOT give you permission to use my pic on this board!

Its all good though. My after vaxx pic

 

[gator1776]

Dude I did NOT give you permission to use my pic on this board!

Hey my compliments to your plastic surgeon because you look a lot better than the last time we saw your picture

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

Hey my compliments to your plastic surgeon because you look a lot better than the last time we saw your picture

Shhhhh...it was the JnJ shot but dont tell anyone...I got women all over me these days. Its driving my wife nuts.

 

[jfegaly]

Shhhhh...it was the JnJ shot but dont tell anyone...I got women all over me these days. Its driving my wife nuts.

It’s another reason I didn’t do pfizer. Heard your pecker falls off shortly after that one

 

[fatman76]

Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine to get full FDA approval next week

It would be the first COVID-19 shot to receive full authorization from the federal government.

www.axios.com

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine to get full FDA approval next week

It would be the first COVID-19 shot to receive full authorization from the federal government.

www.axios.com

Wait...what???

"By the numbers: 51.2% of the entire American population has been fully vaccinated, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

So roughly HALF of Americans either haven't gotten a shot, or got one, and didn't get the 2nd one?

Wow.

 

[fatman76]

Wait...what???

"By the numbers: 51.2% of the entire American population has been fully vaccinated, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

So roughly HALF of Americans either haven't gotten a shot, or got one, and didn't get the 2nd one?

Wow.

That’s right, confirmed elsewhere. Kinda shocking.

 

[gator1776]

That’s right, confirmed elsewhere. Kinda shocking.

This is correct. Only about half of the population is fully vaccinated.

 

[gator1776]

Pell City mother loses son to COVID, changes her mind about getting COVID-19 vaccine

Christy Carpenter said her son Curt died from COVID complications. He was unvaccinated.

www.wbrc.com

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I've noticed this information is never included in those updates we keep getting.

 

[gator1776]

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I've noticed this information is never included in those updates we keep getting.

What’s your point?

 

[SORT14]

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I've noticed this information is never included in those updates we keep getting.

Firing anyone over vaccination status is terrible. What updates?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

What’s your point?

Number of ICU beds greatly depends on number of nurses available.

All the updates we have gotten in this thread have claimed the lack of ICU beds was due to a spike in covid patients, especially those that haven't been given the shot.

We are never told in these updates if any nurses at these hospitals were fired due to their vaccination status.

If that is happening in these hospitals, it greatly skews the numbers and the conclusions drawn from those numbers.

 

[gator1776]

Firing anyone over vaccination status is terrible. What updates?

Agreed, Although it is legal.

 

[gator1776]

Number of ICU beds greatly depends on number of nurses available.

All the updates we have gotten in this thread have claimed the lack of ICU beds was due to a spike in covid patients, especially those that haven't been given the shot.

We are never told in these updates if any nurses at these hospitals were fired due to their vaccination status.

If that is happening in these hospitals, it greatly skews the numbers and the conclusions drawn from those numbers.

Sometimes it’s fascinating to watch how your brain works. Miss guided, but fascinating.

The hospital systems for which I work do not require the vaccine to work, therefore it is not impacted our ICU bed availability at all. There are hospitals near where I work they do require the vaccine and, thankfully, likely because we’re coastal cities, we have not had a shortage of nursing impact our bed status yet. In fact, if anything, we’ve had enough nurses to open up extra ICU beds outside the normal critical care units.

All that said I do not support the concept of mandating vaccination as a requirement for work, but then again as has been held up in court case after court case, it’s also not illegal.

 

[SORT14]

Agreed, Although it is legal.

True, just hate to see it

 

[gator1776]

Interesting sidenote though, we have had a number of nurses go out with Covid infection which has on occasion impacted our nurse availability. And of course, sadly, like mini healthcare systems, we have lost one or two nurses and we lost a cardiologist recently all of whom were unvaccinated.

 

[SORT14]

Number of ICU beds greatly depends on number of nurses available.

All the updates we have gotten in this thread have claimed the lack of ICU beds was due to a spike in covid patients, especially those that haven't been given the shot.

We are never told in these updates if any nurses at these hospitals were fired due to their vaccination status.

If that is happening in these hospitals, it greatly skews the numbers and the conclusions drawn from those numbers.

You have no proof that fired nurses has resulted in skewed reporting. You’re just being hyperbolic here.

 

[gator1776]

You have no proof that fired nurses has resulted in skewed reporting. You’re just being hyperbolic here.

Which theoretically could be treated with hyperbaric medicine

🤣🤣🤣

I crack myself up.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

You have no proof that fired nurses has resulted in skewed reporting. You’re just being hyperbolic here.

If nurses are fired and that's not mentioned, of course it skews the numbers, as well as the conclusions drawn from those numbers.

And please read more carefully, I never said that nurses had been fired at the hospitals where we have been given updates. I said if they had been and that wasn't disclosed, the numbers and conclusions are off.

That's just reality.

 

[SORT14]

If nurses are fired and that's not mentioned, of course it skews the numbers, as well as the conclusions drawn from those numbers.

And please read more carefully, I never said that nurses had been fired at the hospitals where we have been given updates. I said if they had been and that wasn't disclosed, the numbers and conclusions are off.

That's just reality.

No, you’re trying to draw a conclusion without evidence.
IF is a hypothetical. I agree firing nurses is bad. I disagree there is any evidence that because there is a single incident then we should throw out all reported numbers. That would be completely illogical

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

No, you’re trying to draw a conclusion without evidence.
IF is a hypothetical. I agree firing nurses is bad. I disagree there is any evidence that because there is a single incident then we should throw out all reported numbers. That would be completely illogical

Again, please read more carefully. I never said we should.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Sometimes it’s fascinating to watch how your brain works. Miss guided, but fascinating.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask if nurses have been fired at the hospitals you are reporting on due to shot status. Because that could have a direct bearing on ICU capacity.

You have now clarified that none have been, which is appreciated.

 

[SORT14]

Again, please read more carefully. I never said we should.

You were trying to use nurses getting fired to cast doubt on the reported numbers, yes or no?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

You were trying to use nurses getting fired to cast doubt on the reported numbers, yes or no?

No. You are terrible at making assumptions.

I have no idea if nurses have been fired at any of the hospitals that we have gotten updates on. That's why I didn't claim they had been.

 

[gator1776]

You were trying to use nurses getting fired to cast doubt on the reported numbers, yes or no?

It was clearly an odd association attempted to be drawn, oh well

 

[SORT14]

No. You are terrible at making assumptions.

I have no idea if nurses have been fired at any of the hospitals that we have gotten updates on. That's why I didn't claim they had been.

Good. Glad we cleared that up.
That wasn't an assumption, it was a question.

 

[gator1776]

Good. Glad we cleared that up.

🤣🤣🤣

 

[gator1776]

@jfegaly @GhostOfMatchesMalone @kjfreeze @fatman76 @Gator Fever @fsumc

I owe you all an apology. Hell, @testy524 and @dingyibvs and @SORT14 , all of us owe you an apology. We made the assumption that you guys were not doctors, never once realizing that you are each graduates of this esteemed American medical institution of higher learning. Please forgive us.
@Phenry44 Maybe you should hit them up for a donation to Shands.
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Remember it’s never too early in the morning to have a good laugh

 

[jfegaly]

@jfegaly @GhostOfMatchesMalone @kjfreeze @fatman76 @Gator Fever @fsumc

I owe you all an apology. Hell, @testy524 and @dingyibvs and @SORT14 , all of us owe you an apology. We made the assumption that you guys were not doctors, never once realizing that you are each graduates of this esteemed American medical institution of higher learning. Please forgive us.
@Phenry44 Maybe you should hit them up for a donation to Shands.
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Remember it’s never too early in the morning to have a good laugh

Good one. Don’t forget to tag the same folks on that poll for whether or not there is an RSV vaccine for children. I would hate for someone who isn’t a doctor to upstage a doctor.

And don’t forget….

Mississippi’s hospital motto. “Here in Mississippi, we’re always bringing up the rear”

Y’all took that whole….if you’re not first, you’re last…shit, way to seriously








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[fatman76]

Sometimes it’s fascinating to watch how your brain works. Miss guided, but fascinating.

The hospital systems for which I work do not require the vaccine to work, therefore it is not impacted our ICU bed availability at all. There are hospitals near where I work they do require the vaccine and, thankfully, likely because we’re coastal cities, we have not had a shortage of nursing impact our bed status yet. In fact, if anything, we’ve had enough nurses to open up extra ICU beds outside the normal critical care units.

All that said I do not support the concept of mandating vaccination as a requirement for work, but then again as has been held up in court case after court case, it’s also not illegal.

I thought nurses in your hospitals were quitting and walking off the job from exhaustion just a few days ago?

 

[jfegaly]

I thought nurses in your hospitals were quitting and walking off the job from exhaustion just a few days ago?

It’s ok man. He is a doctor at a hospital in a state that is 50 out of 50 in hospital care. It’s like bragging about being an assistant coach at….Kent State.

Yawn

I think the VA might even edge out Mississippi

 

[gator1776]

I thought nurses in your hospitals were quitting and walking off the job from exhaustion just a few days ago?

If you can find where I said they were quitting and walking off the job then I’ll admit you’re right. You were right, I did say it. I really don’t even remember saying it. It was pretty tired that week. I will clarify to say that our nurses in Alabama seem to be holding their own, the ones in Mississippi have been quitting a lot, mostly transferring to other types of nursing we’re taking other jobs if you can quitting altogether. The ones in Louisiana mostly holding their own, the ones in Florida where I work sometimes have been quitting lot, laterally transferring to non-critical care non-Covid jobs.

I am proud of them.

 

[gator1776]

It’s ok man. He is a doctor at a hospital in a state that is 50 out of 50 in hospital care. It’s like bragging about being an assistant coach at….Kent State.

Yawn

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[jfegaly]

If you can find where I said they were quitting and walking off the job then I’ll admit you’re right. Otherwise you are simply exaggerating for hyperbole and we can treat that in the hyperbaric chamber.

I did say they were exhausted. And they are. But they’re holding up. I’m proud of them.

@fatman76

Let me help. heres the quote.

“ Y’all do what you want but that’s the reality of what’s happening right from the doctors and nurses that are actually taking care of this and are horribly afraid of having to go through this again like we’ve had to twice already. More and more people are quitting because it’s horribly demoralizing and even more so now that it’s preventable.”

 

[gator1776]

@fatman76

Let me help you. Yet another reason no one trusts doc….heres the quote.

“ Y’all do what you want but that’s the reality of what’s happening right from the doctors and nurses that are actually taking care of this and are horribly afraid of having to go through this again like we’ve had to twice already. More and more people are quitting because it’s horribly demoralizing and even more so now that it’s preventable.”


So, about that hyperbole….

Anyone else beginning to question if he is telling the truth about his job?

Thinking maybe we need to check on him here…

How to Find Out If Your Doctor Has a Suspended License

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You know what’s sad is I honestly don’t remember saying that. We did have a lot of nurses quit in Mississippi but the ones in Alabama are holding their own.

I’ll fully take the hit on that one, don’t even remember it. I haven’t been able to sleep much lately. Apologies @fatman76

 

[jfegaly]

You know what’s sad is I honestly don’t remember saying that. We did have a lot of nurses quit in Mississippi but the ones in Alabama are holding their own.

I’ll fully take the hit on that one, don’t even remember it. I haven’t been able to sleep much lately. Apologies @fatman76

Ok bro. In this situation I honestly get it man. Stress is a bitch. And truth be told, in the past year my mind has lost alot. Not joking.

I honestly feel ya on that

Post above edited for your sincerety. But don’t take my kindness here too far…

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I thought nurses in your hospitals were quitting and walking off the job from exhaustion just a few days ago?

Oh shit, I forgot all about that LOL

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Good one. Don’t forget to tag the same folks on that poll for whether or not there is an RSV vaccine for children. I would hate for someone who isn’t a doctor to upstage a doctor.

And don’t forget….

Mississippi’s hospital motto. “Here in Mississippi, we’re always bringing up the rear”

Y’all took that whole….if you’re not first, you’re last…shit, way to seriously

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I find it fascinating that he still doesn't understand why people are questioning him, and even more amusing is how upset it makes him.