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Proprietary COVID-19 and Vaccine thread

Curious if in the future we will find out the vaccine and all these boosters screwed up immunity in general in addition to it screwing up the defenses against the recent Covid variants.
 
Been a while since I posted in here. Been fishing. SIAP. Read this on Foxnews this a.m. and thought, man there is even more stuff that Dr. D got wrong. Good laws, no wonder Mississippi struggles so much.


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Not a reliable authority figure…what does he know?

Is he part of the 'medical community' that @Uniformed_ReRe and @Illegal-shift say we should be listening to? Or do they only listen to the part of the 'medical community' that tells them what they want to hear?

Side note: I like asking rhetorical questions.
 
Ya, I am there with you my man. Its really a strange phenomenon to see them take on the medical community.
Disdain for Government in general and certainly for politicians I can understand and oftentimes get behind, but the trashing of doctors, scientists and agencies who's only purpose is to protect the American people is truly a bizarre development. And really, taking on medical people from around the world.

I guess you combine the internet with some folks who have a screw loose and this is what you end up with.

gator1776 was right.......just let them post here where they do no harm. There is no changing their minds, no matter how much evidences or logic is presented. If evidence mattered, they wouldn't possible have adopted their current positions to begin with.

Wait, so the peasantry is not allowed to question or challenge the doctors and "agencies" that are purportedly out to help them?

Something like..."It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again?"

The fine line between freedom of choice and the lunacy that you're referring to isn't the chasm that you're making it out to be.
 
Is he part of the 'medical community' that @Uniformed_ReRe and @Illegal-shift say we should be listening to? Or do they only listen to the part of the 'medical community' that tells them what they want to hear?

Side note: I like asking rhetorical questions.

Yes, he is credible. I have no reason to dispute his findings.

Oh—by the way, he also had this to say:

“Jerris also revealed some of the confusion in reporting cases. Speaking at a cabinet meeting on Sunday, he told ministers, “Defining a serious patient is problematic. For example, a patient with a chronic lung disease always had a low level of oxygen, but now he has a positive coronavirus test result which technically makes him a ‘serious coronavirus patient,’ but that’s not accurate. The patient is only in a difficult condition because he has a serious underlying illness.

Once again, you just read the headlines and ignore rest of the article.
 
Yes, he is credible. I have no reason to dispute his findings.

Oh—by the way, he also had this to say:

“Jerris also revealed some of the confusion in reporting cases. Speaking at a cabinet meeting on Sunday, he told ministers, “Defining a serious patient is problematic. For example, a patient with a chronic lung disease always had a low level of oxygen, but now he has a positive coronavirus test result which technically makes him a ‘serious coronavirus patient,’ but that’s not accurate. The patient is only in a difficult condition because he has a serious underlying illness.

Once again, you just read the headlines and ignore rest of the article.
Sounds like what I've been trying to tell you and @gator1776 here for the last 2 years: Most of the people put down as covid deaths actually died WITH covid, not FROM covid.

See guys? The shot cheerleaders know what the truth is, they only care about it when they think it helps their current narratives.
 
Sounds like what I've been trying to tell you and @gator1776 here for the last 2 years: Most of the people put down as covid deaths actually died WITH covid, not FROM covid.

See guys? The shot cheerleaders know what the truth is, they only care about it when they think it helps their current narratives.

I don't have a narrative. I just defer to the experts. And unlike you, I actually what they say.
 
Been a while since I posted in here. Been fishing. SIAP. Read this on Foxnews this a.m. and thought, man there is even more stuff that Dr. D got wrong. Good laws, no wonder Mississippi struggles so much.


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Medical staff get grant money for covid deaths/treatments, so, it is not out of the realm to believe they padded covid deaths and the number of covid patients. In fact, I would be even more shocked if any healthcare facility was forthright reporting that data.
 
@fatman76 I think the dems have finally figured out that the gig is up. Look at these two tweets from one of the most dishonest dems in the party:




Years ago, Lou Holtz said when they are trying to run you out of town, get out in front of them and act like you are leading a parade. Sounds like that's what's happening here.

Sheep will do a 180% right along with them. And never think to question.
 
Yes, he is credible. I have no reason to dispute his findings.

Oh—by the way, he also had this to say:

“Jerris also revealed some of the confusion in reporting cases. Speaking at a cabinet meeting on Sunday, he told ministers, “Defining a serious patient is problematic. For example, a patient with a chronic lung disease always had a low level of oxygen, but now he has a positive coronavirus test result which technically makes him a ‘serious coronavirus patient,’ but that’s not accurate. The patient is only in a difficult condition because he has a serious underlying illness.

Once again, you just read the headlines and ignore rest of the article.
What makes you think I didn’t read it? I read that and I also found the fake fact check on twitter. Did you read that?

And what difference does it make? Vaccines either protect you from Covid or they don’t. If vaccines don’t stop the sick from being hospitalized, and the healthy have a 99.97% chance of survival with mild symptoms, what’s the point?

And are you seeing the issue with stats that don’t track things like serious health problems. For example, when you hear that “X% of our patients/deaths are unvaxxed”, how many of those are people too sick to get vaccinated? What’s the avg number of comorbidities per patient?

We don’t know, and it matters to get the whole picture. But in this instance all we really need to know is the vaccines aren’t doing the one thing they are supposed to - keep at risk people out of the hospital.
 
@fatman76 I think the dems have finally figured out that the gig is up. Look at these two tweets from one of the most dishonest dems in the party:




Years ago, Lou Holtz said when they are trying to run you out of town, get out in front of them and act like you are leading a parade. Sounds like that's what's happening here.

Sheep will do a 180% right along with them. And never think to question.
100%

The next step is the admission that after a period of significant protection the vaccine actually harms the immune response and makes things worse. If you’re paying attention it’s already starting to look like that’s the case. It’s perfect for pharm manufacturers, basically the only hope is endless boosters.

Watch Israel over the next 90 days. When the 4th shot rolls out the numbers will get much better…and we’ll hear all about it.
 
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Medical staff get grant money for covid deaths/treatments, so, it is not out of the realm to believe they padded covid deaths and the number of covid patients. In fact, I would be even more shocked if any healthcare facility was forthright reporting that data.
Stop blaming the hospitals. It’s not their fault a ridiculous incentive structure was set up.

When the country locked down people stopped getting hurt and sick and stopped elective procedures.

We don’t have single payer health care, hospitals are trying to stay afloat. It’s not their job to stand on a moral high ground and complain about a system that benefits them. Blame those in charge who set the system up.

It all circles back…
 
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I don't have a narrative. I just defer to the experts. And unlike you, I actually what they say.
There are experts that don’t follow the Fauci narrative. You discredit anything that doesn’t come from the CDC, and you come off like a lemming.

I listened to everything Fauci said like it was the gospel at one time.
 
Stop blaming the hospitals. It’s not their fault a ridiculous incentive structure was set up.

When the country locked down people stopped getting hurt and sick and stopped elective procedures.

We don’t have single payer health care, hospitals are trying to stay afloat. It’s not their job to stand on a moral high ground and complain about a system that benefits them. Blame those in charge who set the system up.

It all circles back…

I blame the hospitals mostly along with big pharma as those big chains are as crooked as they come and they made/are making the decisions to delay much needed surgeries etc. to rake in the blood Covid money gravy train the govt should have never approved and most of them are willingly killing patients by refusing treatments that have shown to be effective while loving collecting the crazy Covid jacked up rates when someone is intubated and the rest not to even mention some of them denying live saving surgeries to people that don't have covid because they refused to be jabbed with that stuff.. They are so in bed with the other crooks that they threaten their doctors with dismissal if they even carry out a court order on ivermectin.
 
Stop blaming the hospitals. It’s not their fault a ridiculous incentive structure was set up.

When the country locked down people stopped getting hurt and sick and stopped elective procedures.

We don’t have single payer health care, hospitals are trying to stay afloat. It’s not their job to stand on a moral high ground and complain about a system that benefits them. Blame those in charge who set the system up.

It all circles back…
I'm telling the truth, not blaming anyone, sir. The guilty scream out when they are questioned otherwise there would be no need to get excited. Is this Jimbo Fisher?
 
@fatman76 I think the dems have finally figured out that the gig is up. Look at these two tweets from one of the most dishonest dems in the party:




Years ago, Lou Holtz said when they are trying to run you out of town, get out in front of them and act like you are leading a parade. Sounds like that's what's happening here.

Sheep will do a 180% right along with them. And never think to question.
You sure someone didn't hack into Ted Lieu's Twitter account? I understood him better back when he wasn't making any sense.
 
@fatman76 I think the dems have finally figured out that the gig is up. Look at these two tweets from one of the most dishonest dems in the party:




Years ago, Lou Holtz said when they are trying to run you out of town, get out in front of them and act like you are leading a parade. Sounds like that's what's happening here.

Sheep will do a 180% right along with them. And never think to question.

On February 7th (her tweet), how could any upright walking creature not realize that neither the shot nor natural immunity is "permanent?"

Good Lord...people are stupid. No wonder some are so easily misled.
 

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The doctors and scientists had a few clear and concise messages they want people to hear:

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Dr. Paul Marik, chairman and co-chief medical officer of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, told the crowd how he was banned from using cost-effective, repurposed, safe drugs that had been saving his patients’ lives.
“I was forced — or they tried to force me — to use remdesivir,” he said, to loud jeers from the crowd. “We know remdesivir is a toxic drug that kills people. They refused me to treat patients the way I wanted to treat patients. Let doctors be doctors!”
He further emphasized that hospital administrators and government officials are interfering with the basic physician-patient relationship.

“As a clinician for 35 years, do you know how heart-wrenching that was? It was awful.”


 
Not a reliable authority figure…what does he know?

Well, just a few posts earlier you where arguing that Israel had nearly a 99% vaccination rate.

So.......if almost everybody is vaccinated.......how in the hell are they going to have a high percentage of unvaccinated people getting sick?

So if 99% of the country is vaccinated but only 80% of the real sick people are vaccinated........what does that say about the vaccine? I guess that means the 1 to 2 % of unvaccinated make up 20% of the sick people......wow.

What a strong argument you make for getting vaccinated right here.

I swear, half the time you don't even know if the information you post helps or hurts your argument.
 
Here is another site like FLCCC.com
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Doctor’s Organization has Treated Over 150,000 COVID-19 Patients with 99.99 Percent Survival 'Early Treatment Works, Period'
By: Meiling Lee A doctor who has been offering free telehealth services to COVID-19 patients during the pandemic says that early treatment for COVID-19 works, claiming that he has a 99.99 percent survival rate.

 
Well, isn't this special?!

Zinc kills the virus. Virus is in the cell and replicates. Zinc cannot get into the cell. Now, it turns out there’s a class of medications called ‘zinc ionophores’ or a class of substances called ‘zinc ionophores’ — what they do — is they open up a channel, a door, which allows zinc to go from outside the cell to inside the cell.
And what might these zinc ionophores be?


Hydroxycholorquine, Quercetin, and Ivermectin - all three work.
There are two risk factors for dying from COVID: It’s the doctor you choose and the government you live under. Besides that, there’s no reason a person should die from COVID.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...us-problem-bullet-doesnt-get-place-needs-feb/
 
Well, just a few posts earlier you where arguing that Israel had nearly a 99% vaccination rate.

So.......if almost everybody is vaccinated.......how in the hell are they going to have a high percentage of unvaccinated people getting sick?

So if 99% of the country is vaccinated but only 80% of the real sick people are vaccinated........what does that say about the vaccine? I guess that means the 1 to 2 % of unvaccinated make up 20% of the sick people......wow.

What a strong argument you make for getting vaccinated right here.

I swear, half the time you don't even know if the information you post helps or hurts your argument.
I’m getting really sick of reposting things you refuse to read. Rere and I had this conversation.

Far right wing crazies Reuters reports that Israel has given enough vaccines to vaccinate 99% (it was 1% lower last week) of its population.


I did some more research and I found this data from an article about their Green Pass. It’s a few months old, but as you can see the vax rates for the at risk population is one of the highest in the world, but not 99%. But you’d assume the number is higher now, as they approved a second booster last week. Israel has done a good job prioritizing the risky population.

Vaccine uptake in Israel is extensive. As of October 15, 2021, 64.8% of the population was vaccinated with 2 vaccine doses, including a very high proportion of the at-risk population (84.6% aged 50–59; 88.3% aged 60–69; 88.1% aged 70–79; 87.7% aged 80–89; and 80.2% over the age of 90). Nonetheless, there are currently about 700,000 Israelis who are entitled to receive the vaccine but who have nonetheless chosen not to get vaccinated.


So now that you have more information please repost something that makes sense. Also, while your at it, how many patients are hospitalized in this Covid ward?

And why has Israel given so many vaccinations? Is it vaccine tourism? Are people getting extra shots?

As is customary with you, you go about as deep as a soap dish on almost everything you post.
 
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My wife was sick starting last Wed/Thur. It was head cold stuff, stopped up nose, nasal headache and a drainage sore throat. She was better today but was pretty run down this weekend. She’s tough as nails. She didn’t test because her allergies are bad and it seemed like allergies.

I took my healthy 16YO to a prospect day in Norfolk Sat where he played lacrosse all day in cold windy weather. He said he felt a little funky Sunday but played box all day and played well. @Sunburnt Indian ’s ancestors invented the best game on the planet, a gift too few accept. Today he was too sick for school and tested positive on a Chinese rapid Biden sent. God bless Biden for sending China money. He’s getting a PCR tomorrow.

I started feeling bad this afternoon and immediately quarantined in my hotel room. I went downstairs and passed a rapid. Slight sore throat, nasal congestion and mild headache. Really bad gastro symptoms, which is odd. But I’m afraid I’m going to be stuck in a Hilton for the next several days. I’ll test again tomorrow.

None of us lost taste or smell.

It might be my turn…
 
My wife was sick starting last Wed/Thur. It was head cold stuff, stopped up nose, nasal headache and a drainage sore throat. She was better today but was pretty run down this weekend. She’s tough as nails. She didn’t test because her allergies are bad and it seemed like allergies.

I took my healthy 16YO to a prospect day in Norfolk Sat where he played lacrosse all day in cold windy weather. He said he felt a little funky Sunday but played box all day and played well. @Sunburnt Indian ’s ancestors invented the best game on the planet, a gift too few accept. Today he was too sick for school and tested positive on a Chinese rapid Biden sent. God bless Biden for sending China money. He’s getting a PCR tomorrow.

I started feeling bad this afternoon and immediately quarantined in my hotel room. I went downstairs and passed a rapid. Slight sore throat, nasal congestion and mild headache. Really bad gastro symptoms, which is odd. But I’m afraid I’m going to be stuck in a Hilton for the next several days. I’ll test again tomorrow.

None of us lost taste or smell.

It might be my turn…
Keep us posted.
 
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My wife was sick starting last Wed/Thur. It was head cold stuff, stopped up nose, nasal headache and a drainage sore throat. She was better today but was pretty run down this weekend. She’s tough as nails. She didn’t test because her allergies are bad and it seemed like allergies.

I took my healthy 16YO to a prospect day in Norfolk Sat where he played lacrosse all day in cold windy weather. He said he felt a little funky Sunday but played box all day and played well. @Sunburnt Indian ’s ancestors invented the best game on the planet, a gift too few accept. Today he was too sick for school and tested positive on a Chinese rapid Biden sent. God bless Biden for sending China money. He’s getting a PCR tomorrow.

I started feeling bad this afternoon and immediately quarantined in my hotel room. I went downstairs and passed a rapid. Slight sore throat, nasal congestion and mild headache. Really bad gastro symptoms, which is odd. But I’m afraid I’m going to be stuck in a Hilton for the next several days. I’ll test again tomorrow.

None of us lost taste or smell.

It might be my turn…
Fatman......you and I go at each other pretty hard on here, but I wish you no Ill will.

Hope you and your family recover quickly and fully.
 
Fatman......you and I go at each other pretty hard on here, but I wish you no Ill will.

Hope you and your family recover quickly and fully.
Thanks

My son had bounced back as of late last night. I’m sure he’ll be close to normal today, since he was little he goes down hard then pops back quickly from viruses.

I’m just fighting gastro issues and a mild fever and flu like symptoms. Aches and chills. Can’t eat. No nasal issues, slight headache. Can’t sleep past about 4am.

I ate after him Friday night (we got into Norfolk late and shared Moe’s in the hotel room). I think I’m the first person I know who ate Covid? I don’t know, but all my significant symptoms are in my gut, it’s almost like the stomach flu. Weird virus.

My wife is totally fine. I’m guessing this is Omicron.

But thanks for reaching out. Going to have to figure out how to get 13 hours north, in Orlando for a trade show.
 
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My son had bounced back as of late last night. I’m sure he’ll be close to normal today, since he was little he goes down hard then pops back quickly from viruses.

I’m just fighting gastro issues and a mild fever and flu like symptoms. Aches and chills. Can’t eat. No nasal issues, slight headache. Can’t sleep past about 4am.

I ate after him Friday night (we got into Norfolk late and shared Moe’s in the hotel room). I think I’m the first person I know who ate Covid? I don’t know, but all my significant symptoms are in my gut, it’s almost like the stomach flu. Weird virus.

My wife is totally fine. I’m guessing this is Omicron.

But thanks for reaching out. Going to have to figure out how to get 13 hours north, in Orlando for a trade show.

Just take it easy...but not entirely sedentary. I remember a discussion where we talked about comorbidities and I think you said you had some concerns. Sounds like you're a pretty active dude though.

In any event, kick its Chinese arse.
 
Just take it easy...but not entirely sedentary. I remember a discussion where we talked about comorbidities and I think you said you had some concerns. Sounds like you're a pretty active dude though.

In any event, kick its Chinese arse.
HBP, controlled with a mix of 4 meds.

Otherwise I coach, hit the Stairmaster for 30 mins several times a week and am pretty active. A little soft but not fat. 5 months out from J&J, so probably pretty unvaxxed.

I’ll be ok. I’m also a wuss when I’m sick.
 
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