Proprietary COVID-19 and Vaccine thread

[Uniformed_ReRe]

So 10 days ago Israel approved their 4th shot, you know because the other three worked so well.

The most vaccinated country in the world (nearly 98%) has one of the highest deaths per million in the world this week.

@Uniformed_ReRe and @Illegal-shift - I need someone with better analytic skills to break this down for me. If the shots and boosters work why aren’t the shots and boosters working for the one thing we’re told they do - preventing serious illness and death?

Weekly confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people

Weekly confirmed deaths refer to the cumulative number of confirmed deaths over the previous week. Due to varying protocols and challenges in the attribution of the cause of death, the number of confirmed deaths may not accurately represent the true number of deaths caused by COVID-19.

ourworldindata.org

If SORT14 and gator1776, a medical researcher/data scientist and a full-time pulmonologist, both gave up on you guys, there is nothing I can do. You guys are cavemen arguing with rocket scientists about how rockets work.

 

[fatman76]

If SORT14 and gator1776, a medical researcher/data scientist and a full-time pulmonologist, both gave up on you guys, there is nothing I can do. You guys are cavemen arguing with rocket scientists about how rockets work.

BS response and you know it.

Answer the question, this isn’t a scientific study that requires astute analysis. If the vaccines prevent serious illness and death, and did so for months in one of the most vaxxed countries in the world, why the spike now?

You have to deflect because there’s no spin.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Shouldn't it be pinned again? I guess we gotta search for it every time we want to post Covid/vacciune related material (like this thread) out of fear of getting banned, right?

I just assumed @FresnoGator unpinned it to let the new board owner decide what he wanted to do with it.

Seems he's pretty much ignored this board. which is a shame, since the board is going to be the 2nd most popular after The Swamp over the coming months.

 

[FresnoGator]

I just assumed @FresnoGator unpinned it to let the new board owner decide what he wanted to do with it.

Seems he's pretty much ignored this board. which is a shame, since the board is going to be the 2nd most popular after The Swamp over the coming months.

New owner unpinned it. He wants very few pinned posts in this forum. The focus is on the paid sports board. There is much latitude given here, as long as you don't cross the lines of nudity, cussing and over the top insults and other obvious breaches ...

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

BS response and you know it.

Answer the question, this isn’t a scientific study that requires astute analysis. If the vaccines prevent serious illness and death, and did so for months in one of the most vaxxed countries in the world, why the spike now?

You have to deflect because there’s no spin.

Where are you seeing that Israel has a 98% vaccination rate?

 

[gatordad3]

 

[fatman76]

Where are you seeing that Israel has a 98% vaccination rate?

98.9%

Unless people are getting over vaccinated, which would be hard to believe

Israel: the latest coronavirus counts, charts and maps

Tracking the COVID-19 outbreak, updated daily

graphics.reuters.com

 

[gatordad3]

 

[gatordad3]

@GhostOfMatchesMalone
Just what are they hiding?

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

98.9%

Unless people are getting over vaccinated, which would be hard to believe

Israel: the latest coronavirus counts, charts and maps

Tracking the COVID-19 outbreak, updated daily

graphics.reuters.com

Johns Hopkins reports a 67.40% vaccination rate for Israel.

Israel - COVID-19 Overview - Johns Hopkins

Israel - COVID New Cases, Deaths, Testing Data - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

coronavirus.jhu.edu

 

[greyghost14]

New owner unpinned it. He wants very few pinned posts in this forum. The focus is on the paid sports board. There is much latitude given here, as long as you don't cross the lines of nudity, cussing and over the top insults and other obvious breaches ...

So no pics, video or audio of @StevieBGator Mom working the Motel 6 I'm assuming ...... ?

 

[FresnoGator]

So no pics, video or audio of @StevieBGator Mom working the Motel 6 I'm assuming ...... ?

We'll make an exception if you can find them ...

 

[fatman76]

Johns Hopkins reports a 67.40% vaccination rate for Israel.

Israel - COVID-19 Overview - Johns Hopkins

Israel - COVID New Cases, Deaths, Testing Data - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

coronavirus.jhu.edu

I know, and that can’t be accurate. Unless there’s vaccine tourism going on it doesn’t add up.

Regardless Israel was the first to administer mRNA vaccines, first to approve boosters, first to approve second boosters and one of the first vaccine passport enforcers.

Israel administering 4th Covid vaccine dose as omicron surges

The country, which led a world beating vaccination program in 2020, is currently experiencing a new wave of infections fueled by the transmissible omicron variant.

www.nbcnews.com

Israel, which led a world beating vaccination program in 2020, will administer a fourth dose of the vaccine to individuals with weakened immune systems along with elderly residents and employees in care homes

This was from 3 months ago, note the percentages for the vulnerable population:

October 15, 2021, 64.8% of the population was vaccinated with 2 vaccine doses, including a very high proportion of the at-risk population (84.6% aged 50–59; 88.3% aged 60–69; 88.1% aged 70–79; 87.7% aged 80–89; and 80.2% over the age of 90)

Lessons from Israel's COVID-19 Green Pass program - Israel Journal of Health Policy Research

As of the beginning of March 2021, Israeli law requires the presentation of a Green Pass as a precondition for entering certain businesses and public spheres. Entitlement for a Green Pass is granted to Israelis who have been vaccinated with two doses of COVID-19 vaccine, who have recovered from...

ijhpr.biomedcentral.com

So if you want to argue discrepancies in the numbers and change the argument, fine, but Israel has been a world leader in administration of mRNA vaccines. If they really worked for the one thing they’re touted to do you would not see Israel at the top of a per capita deaths list.

If this trend repeats here’s what it will look like- a 4th round will be given over the next 30 days and deaths will plummet. By late May/early June that second round of boosters will start to show negative efficacy and Israel will be back at the top of this list, especially because most countries are backing off boosters based on data from places like…well Israel. The study out of Denmark. The numbers from Scotland and the UK…and I’m sure we will have more soon. The vaccines don’t work, and might make things worse long term.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

What does that make the shot cheerleaders for believing them blindly?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I know, and that can’t be accurate.

Doesn't matter. They told him what he wanted to hear and that's that.

 

[instaGATOR]

If SORT14 and gator1776, a medical researcher/data scientist and a full-time pulmonologist, both gave up on you guys, there is nothing I can do. You guys are cavemen arguing with rocket scientists about how rockets work.

Holding up the often dis-credited 1776 QUACK 😷 as your medical expert is quite funny to me.... 😂

Here the un-informed WeWe shows us that he's never watched or listened to the medical experts that are on Sen. Johnson's 'Another Opinion' Co-V Panel.

STU-PID just doesn't adequately cover how far off base some are.... 🙄

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

It's mind-blowing to me how you guys just dismiss credible sources while insisting on your own layman conjectures.

I don't go through life thinking I know more than the experts. I don't believe that I have superior insights. If you want my position on something, just check the position of the majority of peer-reviewed published experts in that field. That's the case with COVID and Climate Change.

 

[instaGATOR]

Here is the first 1:10:00 of the 5 hour panel.
So any that want at least a glimpse of Co-V reality can watch this....

BTW, Sen Johnson is Pro-vaccine....

 

[Gator Fever]

Comparing health condition numbers in the military pre/post vaccination would be a good way of showing what this trash vaccine is actually doing to some younger healthier people who should have never had to take the poison.

 

[kjfreeze]

New owner unpinned it. He wants very few pinned posts in this forum. The focus is on the paid sports board. There is much latitude given here, as long as you don't cross the lines of nudity, cussing and over the top insults and other obvious breaches ...

I guess we can just start posting Covid crap in new threads then, right?

 

[FresnoGator]

I guess we can just start posting Covid crap in new threads then, right?

I'd prefer you keep it here. It'll save me from merging threads ...

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

It's mind-blowing to me how you guys just dismiss credible sources while insisting on your own layman conjectures.

But that's precisely what you are doing, and what you've been doing for 2 years here.

Here's the only honest reaction to covid:

"I have done my research. There are certain risks involved in taking the shots as treatment. There are certain risks involved in not taking the shots as treatment.

Based on my medical history and other factors, I have decided to...."


That's the only honest response here. I see @jfegaly made that response. So did @DCandtheUTBand and @fatman76.

I haven't seen a single shot cheerleader say anything close to that. To hear you guys tell it, these shots are perfectly safe and completely effective.

You're not even lying to us at this point, cause we know better. You are only lying to yourselves.

Your body, your choice.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I don't go through life thinking I know more than the experts.

BTW, this is how you guys keep hoodwinking yourselves. You rely on the 'experts'. But in recent years we have seen that the experts are anything but, in most cases.

Sheep just believe blindly. Critical thinkers can evaluate so-called experts, and if they screw up, they are smart enough to stop calling them experts.

You don't do that. You double down when your 'expert' sources get it wrong.

Then you turn around and claim others are susceptible to falling for misinformation.....cause they don't listen to the 'experts' that have been discredited by all the smart people.

It's amazing to watch.

 

[BamaFan1137]

There is much latitude given here, as long as you don't cross the lines of nudity

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

At least 20 months...but that's about as far out as the data can go anyway

Prevalence and Durability of SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies Among Unvaccinated US Adults by COVID-19 History

This study uses serologic testing to characterize natural immunity and the long-term durability of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies among unvaccinated US adults by history of COVID-19 infection.

jamanetwork.com

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

At least 20 months...but that's about as far out as the data can go anyway

Prevalence and Durability of SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies Among Unvaccinated US Adults by COVID-19 History

This study uses serologic testing to characterize natural immunity and the long-term durability of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies among unvaccinated US adults by history of COVID-19 infection.

jamanetwork.com

 

[fatman76]

It's mind-blowing to me how you guys just dismiss credible sources while insisting on your own layman conjectures.

I don't go through life thinking I know more than the experts. I don't believe that I have superior insights. If you want my position on something, just check the position of the majority of peer-reviewed published experts in that field. That's the case with COVID and Climate Change.

Is Fauci a credible source?

 

[fatman76]

Comparing health condition numbers in the military pre/post vaccination would be a good way of showing what this trash vaccine is actually doing to some younger healthier people who should have never had to take the poison.

Exactly. Have you seen that data?

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

Is Fauci a credible source?

Yes.

Before you respond with your grocery list of "things Dr. Fauci got wrong," understand that he is in a leadership position where he is responsible for issuing guidelines based on what are often early case studies and research about evolving issues. His understanding and positions on issues today are undoubtedly different from what they were at an earlier time. The Scientific Method is an iterative process that continually refines and corrects itself.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Yes.

Before you respond with your grocery list of "things Dr. Fauci got wrong," understand that he is in a leadership position where he is responsible for issuing guidelines based on what are often early case studies and research about evolving issues. His understanding and positions on issues today are undoubtedly different from what they were at an earlier time. The Scientific Method is an iterative process that continually refines and corrects itself.

I'm less concerned with his mistakes while much more concerned with his intentional deception.

Many of the ant-Fauci sources do the same. The point...I defer to neither.

 

[Gator Fever]

All you have to do is see how Fauci and company purposely hid things early on to see they knew they were up to no good.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Yes.

Before you respond with your grocery list of "things Dr. Fauci got wrong," understand that he is in a leadership position where he is responsible for issuing guidelines based on what are often early case studies and research about evolving issues. His understanding and positions on issues today are undoubtedly different from what they were at an earlier time. The Scientific Method is an iterative process that continually refines and corrects itself.

What a load of horseshit.

So you're saying whenever Fauci gets it wrong, that's ok, cause he was going on the best available information he had at the time.

So what about the people who said he was wrong WHEN HE WAS WRONG?

They were the ones that got it right. They are the ones you should be listening to.

Fauci tells you what you want to hear. That's the only reason why you listen to him.

 

[gator1776]

I was able to work COVID19 as a cause in 4.

Can’t wait for my bonus check.

 

[ghost_of_ukalum1988]

I was able to work COVID19 as a cause in 4.

Can’t wait for my bonus check.

Your hospital management thanks you….

 

[gator1776]

Your hospital management thanks you….

No not yet but they will when they send me my bonus check.

 

[Gator Fever]

 

[instaGATOR]

Yes.

Before you respond with your grocery list of "things Dr. Fauci got wrong," understand that he is in a leadership position where he is responsible for issuing guidelines based on what are often early case studies and research about evolving issues. His understanding and positions on issues today are undoubtedly different from what they were at an earlier time. The Scientific Method is an iterative process that continually refines and corrects itself.

OMG -- The UN-INFORMED WeWe has really earned that label today....

Ole Dr Faulty has flip-flopped back and forth on MASKS so many times it's silly.
And Masks have been proven without any doubt, to be useless, just like Lock-downs.

From Newsweek - Fauci's China Investments Revealed

Anthony Fauci's China Investments Revealed

The Chief Medical Advisor to the President made no direct investments in China, but bought into a U.S.-based mutual fund trading in China stock.

www.newsweek.com

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Yahoo News -Fauci Has Freudian Slip, Starts to Say U.S. Collaborated with ‘Chinese Communists’ on Gain-of-Function Research before the pandemic erupted.

https://news.yahoo.com/flashback-fauci-freudian-slip-starts-224055885.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
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Yahoo News - Senator publishes Fauci's unredacted financial disclosures, accuses him of being misleading when he told the Senate his financial disclosure forms were publicly available. (10.4 Million in investments)

Senator publishes Fauci's unredacted financial disclosures, accuses him of being misleading

U.S. Sen. Roger Marshall, R-Kan., provided the forms to Fox News, which his office obtained after filing an Office of Government Ethics request with the National Institutes of Health (NIH) to get Fauci’s most recent disclosure.

news.yahoo.com

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The Sun - CORONA FUND Dr Anthony Fauci backed $7.4 Million funding for controversial Wuhan lab blamed for causing Covid-19.

Dr Fauci backed $7.4m funding for Wuhan lab blamed for 'causing Covid-19'

WHITE House virus expert Dr Anthony Fauci reportedly backed funding for a controversial lab in China that is blamed for causing the Covid-19 pandemic. Dr Fauci’s National Institute for Allerg…

www.thesun.co.uk

And those are just the tip of the iceberg concerning the corrupt/evil Dr. Faulty....

 

[Illegal-shift]

If SORT14 and gator1776, a medical researcher/data scientist and a full-time pulmonologist, both gave up on you guys, there is nothing I can do. You guys are cavemen arguing with rocket scientists about how rockets work.

Ya, I am there with you my man. Its really a strange phenomenon to see them take on the medical community.
Disdain for Government in general and certainly for politicians I can understand and oftentimes get behind, but the trashing of doctors, scientists and agencies who's only purpose is to protect the American people is truly a bizarre development. And really, taking on medical people from around the world.

I guess you combine the internet with some folks who have a screw loose and this is what you end up with.

gator1776 was right.......just let them post here where they do no harm. There is no changing their minds, no matter how much evidences or logic is presented. If evidence mattered, they wouldn't possible have adopted their current positions to begin with.

 

[instaGATOR]

Yet another unknowing moe-ron, or anther corrupt liar joins the QUACK-PACK'S of the world in denying the reality that is out there for anyone that takes an honest look at it.

And by his above post, I can tell he's another that's avoiding the reality of Senator Johnson's Panel... That, or he's a part of the many problems encompassing the medical profession currently.

However, there are some brave/honest doctors and nurses that are still keeping the Hippocratic Oath. Sen. Johnson's panel is made up of them.

The poison experimental drugs (disguised as vaccines) violate the most basic rule for physicians: DO NO HARM
Hundreds of Thousand are harmed, with Tens of Thousands MURDERED....

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Ya, I am there with you my man. Its really a strange phenomenon to see them take on the medical community.
Disdain for Government in general and certainly for politicians I can understand and oftentimes get behind, but the trashing of doctors, scientists and agencies who's only purpose is to protect the American people is truly a bizarre development. And really, taking on medical people from around the world.

I guess you combine the internet with some folks who have a screw loose and this is what you end up with.

gator1776 was right.......just let them post here where they do no harm. There is no changing their minds, no matter how much evidences or logic is presented. If evidence mattered, they wouldn't possible have adopted their current positions to begin with.

President Trump ordered you to get the vaccine, and you obeyed without questioning.

That's all you had to say.