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President Trump Delivers 12-Page Rebuttal

Yeah, Obama definitely had his share of cult fan boys, but somewhat understandable since he was the first minority president. Similar to Kennedy being the first Catholic president.

The mistake you are making is thinking that the hard core political types who attend rallies (or insurrections as the case may be) represent a majority of Americans. Most of us just go on with their daily lives regardless of who is president. The ones like the nutters ITT who refuse to let go are the exception, not the rule.
You’re completely ignoring the importance of enthusiasm in political campaigns.

Rally’s are just one example of how that enthusiasm manifests.

But you have to because it doesn’t square with 81MM votes for a complete corpse who didn’t campaign, and when he did it was sad to watch.

Let me ask you this - if they are so worthless why have them? Why print yard signs and bumper stickers? Why build local networks of volunteer? Hell why campaign at all? It’s expensive and takes energy,
 
You’re completely ignoring the importance of enthusiasm in political campaigns.

Rally’s are just one example of how that enthusiasm manifests.

But you have to because it doesn’t square with 81MM votes for a complete corpse who didn’t campaign, and when he did it was sad to watch.

Let me ask you this - if they are so worthless why have them? Why print yard signs and bumper stickers? Why build local networks of volunteer? Hell why campaign at all? It’s expensive and takes energy,
I’m not ignoring them. They are a factor. Trump and Obama both had their share of die hard supporters. I’m just stating a fact that MOST people don’t fall into that category, thus aren’t an indication of the overall popular vote. Heck, if that were the case, NASCAR and The Grateful dead would be the most popular sport and band, respectively.
 
) one for you:

Obama was not stupid, he was purposely obtuse and tone deaf, but not stupid

Bill Clinton was nowhere near stupid

W was not smart, but not stupid

Carter was incompetent but not stupid

Biden and Kamala are sub-LeBron level dumb ...
And none of them had to cheat to get into college like Trump did. (Allegedly)
 
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And your side is counting on these people to stay “butthurt” (my kids used this term in high school 😂) so they’re so busy looking back over their shoulder at the past that they don’t use it to learn, prepare, and be ready to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

And thus they show up in a dictionary, illustrating what’s known as a useful idiot.
WISE UP GUYS. Learn. Prepare.

If that pisses off the shrinking circle of people on this board who still think DJT is the rightful winner, well that’s how the shit flows down. Too bad.
Shrinking? There is one of you.

Can we get a list from you of names that once thought the election was stolen that no longer do?

FWIW. You never thought it. There is a historical record. Ms Cheney would be proud of you.
 
I’m not ignoring them. They are a factor. Trump and Obama both had their share of die hard supporters. I’m just stating a fact that MOST people don’t fall into that category, thus aren’t an indication of the overall popular vote. Heck, if that were the case, NASCAR and The Grateful dead would be the most popular sport and band, respectively.
Look at this...40k Hillary "cultists" and pee-pee tape hoaxers.

She won the popular vote you know, with 65MM total votes. Clearly some enthusiastic folks came out to fight Russia's takeover of our Democracy. Patriots.

And this is another crap take from you, those two examples are not analogous at all...plus you're way off, the WNBA draws more seasonal attendance than NASCAR.
 
Shrinking? There is one of you.

Can we get a list from you of names that once thought the election was stolen that no longer do?

FWIW. You never thought it. There is a historical record. Ms Cheney would be proud of you.
You were on a roll until the last sentence and now you just sound like a frustrated guy throwing out stuff cause you’re angry and frustrated.
You say I’m just one but I can recall the days when there were a lot more people who posted on here. Admittedly I don’t know where they fell on a purely political spectrum but this board has always leaned right. Now it’s just more and more ultra right.
Don’t be like ultra left and attack anyone who’s just...right. 😉
 
File this under "Ruh Roh Reorge" for the left.

If their "open borders then amnesty plan" becomes invalidated by the Hispanic communities' lack of desire to stay on the plantation, that border is going to get slammed shut.

Without the Hispanic vote the Dems are going to get smoked. Keep pushing LGBTQIA+, keep inflating the dollar, keep energy prices sky high, keep letting in more illegal aliens to take the jobs of those who live and vote here...just keep the pedal to the medal lefties. It's working perfectly.

 
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You were on a roll until the last sentence and now you just sound like a frustrated guy throwing out stuff cause you’re angry and frustrated.
You say I’m just one but I can recall the days when there were a lot more people who posted on here. Admittedly I don’t know where they fell on a purely political spectrum but this board has always leaned right. Now it’s just more and more ultra right.
Don’t be like ultra left and attack anyone who’s just...right. 😉
So….you don’t know of any. Thanks for backing up my post. Now go stomp your feet and yell at folks to get off their porch again.

If you’re going to claim something as fact, be able to back it up. Using your own words….be better
 
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You were on a roll until the last sentence and now you just sound like a frustrated guy throwing out stuff cause you’re angry and frustrated.
You say I’m just one but I can recall the days when there were a lot more people who posted on here. Admittedly I don’t know where they fell on a purely political spectrum but this board has always leaned right. Now it’s just more and more ultra right.
Don’t be like ultra left and attack anyone who’s just...right. 😉
I think fewer post here because the debate is pretty much over.

If you're better off today than 2019, you're an extremely rare exception.

Leftist policies don't work, and we're living with the proof.
 
I think fewer post here because the debate is pretty much over.

If you're better off today than 2019, you're an extremely rare exception.

Leftist policies don't work, and we're living with the proof.

We do not disagree on that at all. My 401/IRA is down by six.freaking.figures.
 
So a poll taken nearly a year ago is your rebuttal?
Be better.
Sorry, it's not something that's polled daily. But the number isn't moving because nothing is being done about it.

Here's one from 6 months ago, right at 60%. That's close to the margin of error for 2/3rds in most polls. The number isn't moving.

Better?

 
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ANY GOP nom will get savaged by the press ...
Yep. Which is why it doesn’t make sense to bail on any of them. We need Trump for 4 because I can guarantee he will go savage on corruption this time, then Ron to come in for 8 afterwards to finish cleaning house.
 
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Here's a better one for you:

Obama was not stupid, he was purposely obtuse and tone deaf, but not stupid

Bill Clinton was nowhere near stupid

W was not smart, but not stupid

Carter was incompetent but not stupid

Biden and Kamala are sub-LeBron level dumb ...


You suspiciously left out a few former POTUS....hmmm?

Where does drumpf reside on your intelligence specturm? LOL
How about senile Ronald Reagan? Or should we just grade Nancy instead?
What about the other Bush?

And since you're grading the intelligence of VPs...

Was there any VP ever dumber than Dan Quayle?
 
You suspiciously left out a few former POTUS....hmmm?

Where does drumpf reside on your intelligence specturm? LOL
How about senile Ronald Reagan? Or should we just grade Nancy instead?
What about the other Bush?

And since you're grading the intelligence of VPs...

Was there any VP ever dumber than Dan Quayle?
Yes. The current one.
 
You suspiciously left out a few former POTUS....hmmm?

Where does drumpf reside on your intelligence specturm? LOL
How about senile Ronald Reagan? Or should we just grade Nancy instead?
What about the other Bush?

And since you're grading the intelligence of VPs...

Was there any VP ever dumber than Dan Quayle?
Reagan wasn't senile til he got out of office.

George Herbert Walker Bush was director of the CIA, so he's smarter and sneakier than everybody on that list.

Dan Quayle is dumber than dogshit, bless his heart, but Kamala Harris is giving him a run for his money.

And Cheney was easily the most powerful VP this country has ever seen.
 
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I agree with most of what you’re saying, but you are WASTING ENERGY.
That’s just Mother Effing Wasteful.

If you love America and we should all love our country more than an individual then FOCUS ON 2024.

That’s how I see it and if that justifies someone on a message board calling me ignorant then I am under no obligation to treat you with any measure of respect.

Wanna sit out 24 if DJT is not the nominee? Then you are guilty of helping the ENEMY.
I want two new nominees in 2024.

So people who realize there was blatant election fraud, and arent afraid to say it and talk about it, either need to focus on 2024 or they dont love their country? Wow, what a pathetic way to look at things. So you want everyone to do exactly what the Dems want them to do--ignore the cheating and dont mention it.

And screw the President who brought our country to its highest, most successful level in many aspects, and was cheated out of serving in office for a second term. We dont need him back, bring in new unproven blood, because you dont like him. 🙄
 
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So people who realize there was blatant election fraud, and arent afraid to say it and talk about it, either need to focus on 2024 or they dont love their country? Wow, what a pathetic way to look at things. So you want everyone to do exactly what the Dems want them to do--ignore the cheating and dont mention it.

And screw the President who brought our country to its highest, most successful level in many aspects, and was cheated out of serving in office for a second term. We dont need him back, bring in new unproven blood, because you dont like him. 🙄
She misses @gator1776 she is venting because her buddy doesn’t come around anymore. You know the saying…..birds of a feather…

She is upset because the board doesn’t have as many of the Rinos around.
 
Thought that Trump got in with the help of some nepotism, but did fine once in.

Same with Bush in the Air National Guard, IIRC ...

You sit in study groups with him?

UPenn & Wharton in 1968 wasn't quite the school and college you think of now


https://dealbreaker.com/2019/07/trump-wharton-admit
Guy Who Let Trump Into Wharton Would’ve Waved Pretty Much Anyone In
It did not take any super genius to get into Penn in 1966.

President Trump makes an awful lot about his Wharton degree, possibly because it’s the only thing he’s ever actually earned in his life. And even though his alma mater hasn’t exactly loved him back, he persists in lavishing praise upon it, calling attendees (specifically himself) “super geniuses” and dubbing it “the hardest school to get into.”

In my experience, the former is definitely not true, failing, as it does, to account for all of the recruited athletes, marketing majors and Trump progeny stumbling around Steiny-D. As for the second, we have numbers to back it up, and it’s not true, either: Neither Penn as a whole or Wharton in particular is the hardest school to get into. They're not even the hardest schools in Philadelphia to get into; that accolade belongs to the Curtis Institute of Music, which accepts a slightly smaller percentage of applicants than Stanford, the actual hardest school in the country to get into. Penn’s acceptance rate is also significantly higher than those of Harvard and Columbia, the two schools Trump’s famously stupid predecessor attended. And while Wharton boasts a marginally lower admit rate than the university as a whole, it still takes a larger portion of applicants than Brown. Brown!

And that’s today. Back when Trump got in, in 1966, Penn was even more a glorified commuter school that took just about anyone with a pulse and a checkbook. Don’t believe me? Well, maybe you’ll believe the guy who got Trump into Wharton.


At the time, Nolan said, more than half of applicants to Penn were accepted, and transfer students such as Donald Trump had an even higher acceptance rate based on their college experience…. “It was not very difficult,” Nolan said of the time Trump applied in 1966, adding: “I certainly was not struck by any sense that I’m sitting before a genius. Certainly not a super genius.”

And, in spite of the general lack of difficulty, Trump’s family still thought he’d require a bit of extra help.

James Nolan was working in the University of Pennsylvania’s admissions office in 1966 when he got a phone call from one of his closest friends, Fred Trump Jr. It was a plea to help Fred’s younger brother Donald Trump get into Penn’s Wharton School….
Soon, Donald Trump arrived at Penn for the interview, accompanied by his father, Fred Trump Sr., who sought to “ingratiate” himself, Nolan said…. Nolan, who spoke to The Post recently at his apartment here, said that “I’m sure” the family hoped he could help get Trump into Wharton.
There’s much more in that WaPo article about Trump’s lies about both Wharton and his own career at Wharton (hint: he didn’t actually graduate at, or even all that near, the top of his class, and—true to form—did the bare minimum to graduate at all), but if you want to read it you’ll have to make the president angry and give some money to his enemy Jeff Bezos (harder school to get into ’86). That’s all in the past. Also, more recently, one of Trump’s fellow super-geniuses, former Wharton dean and current Philadelphia Fed chief Patrick Harker (who has not one but four degrees from Penn, for what it’s worth, which, as we’ve mentioned, isn’t much) is wondering how Trump ever passed macroeconomics.

Mr. Harker said he supported the decision to hold rates steady at last month’s Fed policy meeting and projected no change in them this year. “The U.S. economy continues to be strong,” he said in an interview Monday. Average hiring in recent months shows “we still have a very strong labor market.”
Mr. Harker would entertain rate cuts if he believed “the economy was weakening substantially, which at this point, I do not see that,” he said. “There’s no immediate need to move rates in either direction at this point in my view….”
Mr. Harker said the undershoot of inflation below the Fed’s 2% target is a concern, but he added, “It’s one that I don’t see as an imminent crisis, and I think we can give it some time to move back up to 2%.”



 
Reagan wasn't senile til he got out of office.

https://www.history.com/news/reagan-health-25th-amendment

Reagan Aides Once Raised the Possibility of Invoking the 25th Amendment​

White House staff reportedly said that Reagan was inattentive and acting strangely, but his chief of staff dismissed the possibility of trying to remove him.
The president was acting strangely. In the wake of a scandal about his illegal dealings with foreign powers, White House aides felt he was so “inattentive and inept” that a memo sent to the chief of staff raised the prospect of invoking the 25th Amendment to remove him from office.

The president was Ronald Reagan, who was dealing with fallout from the Iran-Contra scandal. His chief of staff ultimately dismissed the possibility of using the 25th Amendment to remove him, but the incident is one of the few cases in American history in which White House staff seriously suggested it as an option for removing a president from office, based on his ability to perform the job.

George Herbert Walker Bush was director of the CIA, so he's smarter and sneakier than everybody on that list.

Dan Quayle is dumber than dogshit, bless his heart, but Kamala Harris is giving him a run for his money.

And Cheney was easily the most powerful VP this country has ever seen.
 
https://www.history.com/news/reagan-health-25th-amendment

Reagan Aides Once Raised the Possibility of Invoking the 25th Amendment​

White House staff reportedly said that Reagan was inattentive and acting strangely, but his chief of staff dismissed the possibility of trying to remove him.
The president was acting strangely. In the wake of a scandal about his illegal dealings with foreign powers, White House aides felt he was so “inattentive and inept” that a memo sent to the chief of staff raised the prospect of invoking the 25th Amendment to remove him from office.

The president was Ronald Reagan, who was dealing with fallout from the Iran-Contra scandal. His chief of staff ultimately dismissed the possibility of using the 25th Amendment to remove him, but the incident is one of the few cases in American history in which White House staff seriously suggested it as an option for removing a president from office, based on his ability to perform the job.
That's your evidence? They considered it and didn't do anything?
 
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