LOL! You do realize FSU has played 6 games with 0 turnovers so far?!.. No fumbles by Cook or Interceptions by Golson. 17 eh???
(when is the last time Florida beat FSU by 17points?!.. smh )Prediction for the next 5?
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(when is the last time Florida beat FSU by 17points?!.. smh )
Opponents rushing defense rankings:
LF (LSU)
Miss St - 63
Auburn - 101
Syracuse - 42
E Mich - 127 (biggest chump)
USCe - 104
UF - 25
AVG - 77 (67 without the chump)
DC (FSU)
Tx St - 120 (biggest chump)
USF - 32
BC - 1
WF - 64 (cook only had 1 carry for 94 yards and a TD)
UM - 65
UL - 44
AVG - 54.3 (41.2 without the chump)
Looks like Cook is facing tougher rushing defenses, is playing behind a pretty crappy O-line (as we're reminded here) AND playing with a hamstring injury. Fournette is fortunate that Cook isn't 100% and is down one game (stat-wise).
Rank Player Cl Pos G Rush Rush Yds Rush TD YPG
1 Leonard Fournette, LSU So. RB 6 150 1,202 14 200.3
2 Dalvin Cook, Florida St. So. RB 6 110 955 10 159.2
LINK: http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings?sport_code=MFB&division=11
Haven't had a chance to say congrats on a solid outing Saturday night, oozie. UF made it more of a game than I predicted, so kudos, man! UF has surpased my expectations and I no longer consider our game an auto-W.
Looking forward to the match-up!
Yep also during the Louisville game they showed a graphic of Cook vs Fournette last 200 rushes & Cook had better than him in all 5 or so categories. More TD's, yards, YAC, YPC. It was close, but still Cook wins & he is at 70% since the Wake game. He would have broke 300yds that game, but only had 1 rush for 94yds 1 TD then hurt his hammy. meh Also Cook is the better receiving RB with a TD there too. Fournette has 0 receiving TD's atm.
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It would suck nut to be so close and not win the East this year. sadgator might actually cry it would hurt so bad. sadgator is surprised we are 110 in run offense. If that is true, that sucks.
I dont think anybody is disagreeing with you that Cook is a good running back, but he is not a Fournette caliber back. Has he faced statistically better competition.. you showed that, but if you look deeper into the stats (which im sure you could do the same for LSU's competition) the stats are a little misleading... Take the top two rush D's you played BC and USF. In the one other game that BC played a good team, Clemson, they gave up double their average rushing yards per game. USF against Memphis (pass dominant team) they gave up 120 yards. Against a not very good Uconn team they gave up 163 yards. I can do the same for LSU top two if you would like. What im saying is stats can be deceiving.
LOL, when is the last time FSU played a team with a pulse? Did you watch the UF/LSU game? LSU has a better running back and a much better quarterback. UF is the early 1.5 point favorite and that number will go up when the smart money comes in.LOL! You do realize FSU has played 6 games with 0 turnovers so far?!.. No fumbles by Cook or Interceptions by Golson. 17 eh???
2009 was the last time when we won 37-10. and thats good that they havent turned the ball over yet...but doesnt mean they wont.LOL! You do realize FSU has played 6 games with 0 turnovers so far?!.. No fumbles by Cook or Interceptions by Golson. 17 eh???
Oh and to answer the question, I think UF goes a minimum of 4-1, but could actually go 5-0. Beat Jawja and you're back in the SECCG. That, in and of itself, is impressive for Mac's first year.
Unlike you I watched the LSU at Syracuse game. LSU is not very good & Cook > Fournette. Did you miss the last 200 rushes comparison where Cook beat him in "every category". Also Golson has been amazing with 11 TD's 0 turnovers through 6 games. LSU wishes they had FSU's team.
Lots of bitching about the defense by some here but the reality is Fournette didn't do much in the 2nd half. LSU got all their points in the first half (28) and needed a fake field goal to score again.
That being said, we are one big hit on Harris to being down to no QB's. The margin for error is a fine line. Stay healthy and out of off field trouble and we have a great season. Lot's of ifs, ands, and buts here. Right now we are two touchdowns better than little sister at home, but that could change with anything above. Cook is no Fournette.
That being said, we are one big hit on Harris to being down to no QB's. The margin for error is a fine line. Stay healthy and out of off field trouble and we have a great season. Lot's of ifs, ands, and buts here. Right now we are two touchdowns better than little sister at home, but that could change with anything above. Cook is no Fournette.
Ok buddy. Whatever you say. LSU would bend you over and boar hog you every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I know you're just trolling and not even semi fans are delusional enough to really believe the bilge you're spewing. I just wanted you to have the mental image of what it would be like for you if you played any real competition.
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A lot of talking but you are not saying anything related to the convo... I guess you also missed the LSU at Cuse game.
LSU would likely bend the SOW over and use them and throw the condom in the trash and come back for seconds and thirds.
Nulls make me laugh. Play a Charmin soft schedule and talk about how tough they are. LOL!We've seen the SOW look like shit against BC and UM. Both terrible teams. You have a point?
Just watch Cook play, in fact he was the reason FSU won last year,
He does not get all his yards outside, he ends up outside because by the end if his runs he is outside because nob je tackled him.
He had a 95 yarder up the middle on one run, UF better have an answer, they did not against LSU so they lost
He does not get all his yards outside, he ends up outside because by the end if his runs he is outside because nob je tackled him.
He had a 95 yarder up the middle on one run, UF better have an answer, they did not against LSU so they lost
It is all about matchups. UF'd D did not match up well against well against LSU's offense - mainly due to out lack of LB depth and the fact that one our biggest LBs (Anzalone) was out with an injury. That forced us to play smaller LBs/safeties near the line - not a good match up against a power run game like LSU's. FSU/Cook is not the same power game as Fournette. UF's D will match up much better against your offense, couple that with we should have Anzalone back along with it being in the friendly confines of the Swamp and I think that we will be fine.
Cook is very good but Fournette brings back memories of Herschel Walker. We actually did a pretty decent job on him all things considered. He didn't break any long runs. We actually lost the game because of poor pass defense in the first half and because we can't run the ball.
I keep seeing this all over and couldn't disagree more. We lost the game because of Fournette. They pounded him in the first quarter so much that we were committing nine guys to stop him. They then ran play action and the flea flicker off of that to eat us up. If you look at the flea flicker, Hargraves came off his man to provide run support on Fournette, then he couldn't recover in time.
Fournette is a load and the UF D was consumed with stopping him (and for good reason). This set up clean pockets and one on one coverage for the passing game. They adjusted at half time, but it was too late.
At the end of the first qtr Fournette had like 26 yards and LSU had zero points. We went into the game saying that we would make LSU throw the ball to beat us, put it on Harris. Well guess what.
You have to give the coaches and Harris credit. They got it done. They put 28 on us in the 2nd qtr before we could make an adjustment. They didn't score again until the 4th on a trick play.
You have to give the coaches and Harris credit. They got it done. They put 28 on us in the 2nd qtr before we could make an adjustment. They didn't score again until the 4th on a trick play.
You should fear cook, he is amazing, best all aRound rb in college since Marshall, so dont let the fact fsu plays in the acc alter your opinion.
You did not stop him last year. He was well on his way to like 300 against Oregon till the turnovers
You did not stop him last year. He was well on his way to like 300 against Oregon till the turnovers
p.s., tell MJ that it's bad form to change your 'original' predictions in the middle of the events!
What? I predicted 2-2. That is still my prediction?
Cook is a great running back. Fournette is an elite running back.
They are both elite, simple as that.
To say cook is not is just short sighted.
I am a Nole alum so I will go with cook as being a better all around rb, as would an LSU alum side with Fournette.
I think cook affects wining and losing more, if cook is on then FSU will win, if Fournette is on then I can not say LSU will win 100 percent.
Again splitting hairs, cook is more fun to watch, he is like a pinball and looks like he is just toying with people.
Gator fans should not underestimate the guy just because he plays in the acc. That would be a mistake.
He would be doing the same in the sec.
To say cook is not is just short sighted.
I am a Nole alum so I will go with cook as being a better all around rb, as would an LSU alum side with Fournette.
I think cook affects wining and losing more, if cook is on then FSU will win, if Fournette is on then I can not say LSU will win 100 percent.
Again splitting hairs, cook is more fun to watch, he is like a pinball and looks like he is just toying with people.
Gator fans should not underestimate the guy just because he plays in the acc. That would be a mistake.
He would be doing the same in the sec.
FSU needs Cook in order to win more than LSU needs Fournette. Does that mean Cook >> Fournette? No, it just means that LSU w/o Fournetter >> FSU w/o Cook
So people are too blinded by team spirit.. Cook is a good back, top 3 or 4 in the nation..but he isn't a better back that Founette. If Cook played for UF very very few Florida fans would say he is better then Fournette.
Personally, I think we're splitting hairs...similar to who's better, Joe Montana or John Elway?
Both running backs are performing at an extremely high-level and are on good teams. That said, I will note that Cook is playing behind a less than stellar line and is playing through a nagging hamstring injury. Despite that, he's still putting up gaudy numbers.
It is true that without Cook FSU will likely drop some games it otherwise wouldn't. He is carrying the offense more times than not. (It's similar to when Emmitt played for UF, iirc).
In any case, I'm of the opinion both RBs are elite and I enjoy watching them BOTH play.
Both running backs are performing at an extremely high-level and are on good teams. That said, I will note that Cook is playing behind a less than stellar line and is playing through a nagging hamstring injury. Despite that, he's still putting up gaudy numbers.
It is true that without Cook FSU will likely drop some games it otherwise wouldn't. He is carrying the offense more times than not. (It's similar to when Emmitt played for UF, iirc).
In any case, I'm of the opinion both RBs are elite and I enjoy watching them BOTH play.
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In college Reggie Bush and Harvin were on another level. Those 2 guys could just do some incredible things. Those are 2 of the better college football players I've ever seen.
somewhat agree. George did win a Heisman trophy but yes again Fournette has the potential to be mentioned in the same breath as Herschel and that's just another level all together.
