Definitely not, when Jimbo pulled him out you could see how pissed he was. He's a competitor for sure.
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Definitely not, when Jimbo pulled him out you could see how pissed he was. He's a competitor for sure.
Ga.Tech's 5 losses have all come against ranked teams. 5-1 Notre Dame, 6-0 Clemson, 5-1 Duke, 5-1 Pitt, 5-1 UNC. 3 of those games were close & could have went either way. They have played a brutal schedule so far and now they get FSU lol.
Right, but then people get upset when you talk about the charade that is college football. This is precisely why a minor league is needed, teams who actually have something invested in these players wouldn't run them into the ground the way colleges do so coaches can keep padding their win totals and salaries.
GT's schedule is ranked #9, which would put them 4th in SEC's SOS rankings behind, Arkansas (#2), Tenn (#5), and Bama (#7).
FSU's strength of schedule according to;
NCAA #109 (Florida is at #39)
Sagarin #66 (Florida is #12)
Massey #58 (Florida is #9)
So, the accusation that FSU has benefited from a fairly easy schedule thus far seems to be objectively accurate. Ga Tech will not improve on that very much. Clemson and Florida will. But those are the only two teams worth a damn that FSU will play.
OK, we've definitely established that FSU not only plays no one, they suck too.
However, what I find mind boggling is how, according the NCAA site you linked above, an ACC team has the #1 SOS. Heck the rankings list 2 ACC teams (Ga Tech #7) before we even get to the first SEC team on the list, Tenn #9, then we hit a THIRD ACC team (BC #10) before getting to the 2nd SEC team, Ark #11. The two SEC, power-house, teams Bama & LSU are ranked 33 & 30 respectively. I guess that's why they're ranked higher than Tenn and Ark, they have an "easier" road.
Regardless, from everything I've read here, the top 14 spots should be held by SEC teams. Weird.
http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/ranking_summary
OK, way to bring up something only marginally relevant to the discussion at hand. The discussion? That FSU has benefited from a shitty schedule. (and by contrast, Florida has a very tough one.) But allow me to catch and clean a few more red herrings for you. Sagarins ranks the SEC West as the #1 division in the nation. What does that have to do with the above discussion? Not a lot. But the ACC's best division is the Coastal one. And that ranks just behind the SEC East.
Neither of those facts prove that Florida is any good, or that FSU is bad. Or that either team benefited or were hurt by a tough schedule But as facts they stink a little less than the red herring you attempted to introduce.
My apologies, I thought I was clear that this was a "side bar"...and after admitting that FSU plays a soft schedule AND sucks (in hopes of moving past that topic quickly to discuss my disturbing findings), I thought we could jump right in.
So, to recap my side bar. The SEC is supposed to be the rootinest, tootinest shootinest, roughest, toughest, baddest of all conferences...so tough, in fact, their OOC schedule could consist of several orthoscopic nursing colleges for the blind and they'd still make it to the play-offs with 2 losses just because, well, it's the SEC. Heck, they dominated the BCSNCG 7 straight years. FACT.
So, forgive me if I was flabbergasted when I saw an ACC team held the #1 SOS spot and, in fact, a 2nd ACC team is listed in the top 10 before we get to the 1st SEC team. In fact, there are three ACC teams in the top 10 SOS to the SEC's 1.
This just doesn't fit the brainwashing...er um...information I've been given here.
p.s.
I'll be curious to see the final SOS rankings between UF and FSU. I still think UFs will be higher, but teams like Ole Miss and Mizzou won't look as good as they did when the final seconds tick off.
So far UF has played a 20-14 schedule, with a 15-15 (.500) coming up.
FSU has played an abysmal 9-15 schedule with a 17-11 (.607) coming up.
I'll be curious to see the final SOS rankings between UF and FSU. I still think UFs will be higher, but teams like Ole Miss and Mizzou won't look as good as they did when the final seconds tick off.
So far UF has played a 20-14 schedule, with a 15-15 (.500) coming up.
FSU has played an abysmal 9-15 schedule with a 17-11 (.607) coming up.
Sorry. My bad, I thought you were being sarcastic.
Show me a ranking system where the SEC ranks poorly.
FACT
Whatever. Playing a tough schedule does not translate to success. You have to win too.
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I get it that you all like pointing out that FSU plays a weak schedule this year, but if you lose to a team that plays such a weak schedule, what will that say about you?
We can only play who's in front of us, like it or not.
We can only play who's in front of us, like it or not.
It says we have been pretty bad for four of the last five years. Which is not a news flash.
Your administrators and coaches ran scared to the ACC, when your program was finally on the cusp of an invitation to the SEC. Like it or not.
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I don't particularly like it, I wish we were in the SEC, but the fact remains we can only play who's on our schedule.
Well, I was using sarcasm to get a point across.
I just did. There are more ACC teams with tougher schedules than SEC teams. The ACC and BIG 12 dominate the Top 10 SOS rankings. How is that possible (danoleman is going to have a field day with this)
I agree; however, iirc the point made here was when teams play a season untested they get their ass handed to them when they face a "real" team. The example used was UF vs FSU 2012. (I used FSU's 30-year bowl record to dispel it, though).
To the credit of your administrators and coaches, you guys are trying to improve your schedule
I have no desire to play in the SEC. I prefer "balance to the force", and like other P5 conferences to be strong. I would like to see:
A. Other ACC teams step up, e.g. scUM, VA Tech, UVA, NC State, Louisville, etc.
B. FSU NEVER play an FCS team again. Ever.
C. FSU can have a very commendable schedule by beefing up its OOC like 2014, 16 & 17 (and hopefully moving forward).
That is not a ranking system. That is cherry picking information. You have to look at the whole conference. Let me repeat, there are NO ranking systems that put the ACC over the SEC
Whatever. FSU has been to six title games. They have lost three.
Well, I do know that they both beat the SEC teams on their schedules, so you may be right.
Did you want to go to '14 or have to go to '14 to make an argument for '15 GT and '15 FSU?
^Rhetorical Q
It's not really debatable, look at the QB play for the teams they have faced.. and it's only going to get worse this weekend lolSaving this for later.
Yes, that USCjr vs UNC game could have went either way. Just like LSU struggled at Syracuse too. Sometimes so called cakewalks are not as easy as one might think...
Nolies it's sad you defend rapists, guys who hit women and worse of all...
That pathetic schedule. Defending Tech's 2-5 record?
That pathetic schedule. Defending Tech's 2-5 record?
Alaskan u r a joke. 99% of your posts are on here. Must be a Nolie who Genie banned. Keep up ragging on the home team.and I guess it's onto the Clemson.board for ya.
Huge huge difference. LSU actually won their game. North Carolina lost the the #13th best team in the SEC.Yes, that USCjr vs UNC game could have went either way. Just like LSU struggled at Syracuse too. Sometimes so called cakewalks are not as easy as one might think...
Wait. Why are "we" talking about LSU struggling with Syracuse but not talking about FSU struggling worse with awful Wake Forrest team? And needing a fumble return for a late TD to beat an awful BC who played the 4Q with a true fresh QB? And needing every bit of 4Q to beat an awful miami team in doak? Curious silence. Elephant in the room
Wow just wow.... WINston never came close to being charged with rape at FSU because nathan happened. Also Cook never punched a woman or any1 else...
Although I do recall Treon Harris involved with some pretty bad looking texts with a female after a possible sexual assault that was dropped?!.. 1 word = Hernandez a possible "serial killer"
Ya know glass houses & all. No need to throw any stones imo. smh
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BC still has the #1 ranked total D & #1 rush D. Also they were decent on O until FSU knocked out their QB for the season. Cook broke a long TD run, but it got called back saying he stepped out. Also Aguayo who never misses, missed a 42yd field goal. Then FSU took a knee inside the 5 yd line with over 1 minute left on the clock because Jimbo never RUTS. For Jimbo a win is a win. He does not care if it is by 1 point or 50.
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That was the Bowden mantra. That was one of the reasons for joining the ACC. And that is why FSU has to scramble to beef up their OOC schedule.Better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all.
Any game *could* have gone either way. That is the nature of sports. Some ACC teams might indeed play a tough schedule. But they have to win them.
Awful BC out-gained you into the 4Q until their QB went down. After the first and only offensive TD, you had ONE drive over 40 yds. Spin it all you want, FSU was terrible.
Awful WF out-gained you....
and then theres miami...behind with minutes left
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Bay, you realize NoleFan1 is retarded right? He's the very definition of football chick, pay him no mind.
"But hey, they have the #1 defense in the nation. And Ga Tech has the #7 toughest schedule. That means the ACC is awesome and the SEC sux!"
---FSU fans
BC, NC State, Wake, FSU, and Miami (And GT) all seem to be pretty close. Week in, week out, tight games with one another.
Clemson, on the otherhand, throwing their weight around
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Clemson, on the otherhand, throwing their weight around
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