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thats why I can’t say he is a completely “lateral move” to Mullen because he would do better recruiting Florida
Maybe so. He signed at USC at one time beat out our "highest ranked recruiting class ever" and also brought in some studs that lone year at UT and didn't mind going H2H with what was the big fish at the time in Urban Meyer.

I guess I'm judging too much with his classes at Ole Miss. Hasn't knocked it out of the park there.
 
I don't know who was the better captain of the sinking ship.

Sad with Mullen
or
Danny with Muschamp?

Wait

Insta for Grantham

Lol that tired old trope.

Oh I'm sorry that I didn't agree with the grand and glorious BONG that Muschamp was a Georgia spy intent on destroying the program.

Color me unimpressed.

I admitted before Muschamp was fired that, and I can't believe I have to rehash this again, that Muschamp, and really any young DC to HC can't be terribly successful anymore because of the turnover in OCs, whether successful or not.

Only so much can be done with defense, scheme wise, but offense is all over the place and that's by-and-large who schools are hiring. So you either have a system for a few years and works and then he's gone or he sucks and you fire him. Either way you're starting over on that end of the ball every couple of years.

But please tell me more about how I'm an idiot and your buddy Norvell is yet to be determined.

inconvenient I suppose. But I swear to god, I never once acted the way sad is right now. Predicting years of awfulness because he can't see the reality of the situation.

I said what I said about Muschamp at the time, and I'm still right.
 
UPDATE: Insta is now claiming that if you put Saban at UF, his recruiting will be just as bad as Mullen's and if you put Mullen at UA, that he will suddenly sign the #1 or #2 class every year.

lol Meyer and Muschamp should have showed him that is BS. Muschamp did have a knack of getting offensive players that weren't too good despite their rankings however.
 
Lol that tired old trope.

Oh I'm sorry that I didn't agree with the grand and glorious BONG that Muschamp was a Georgia spy intent on destroying the program.

Color me unimpressed.

I admitted before Muschamp was fired that, and I can't believe I have to rehash this again, that Muschamp, and really any young DC to HC can't be terribly successful anymore because of the turnover in OCs, whether successful or not.

Only so much can be done with defense, scheme wise, but offense is all over the place and that's by-and-large who schools are hiring. So you either have a system for a few years and works and then he's gone or he sucks and you fire him. Either way you're starting over on that end of the ball every couple of years.

But please tell me more about how I'm an idiot and your buddy Norvell is yet to be determined.

inconvenient I suppose. But I swear to god, I never once acted the way sad is right now. Predicting years of awfulness because he can't see the reality of the situation.

I said what I said about Muschamp at the time, and I'm still right.
I never said you were an idiot. I wasn't talking about when you, me, and majority of us were talking smack to BONG. I remember Oozie telling you that you sounded like the captain of the sinking ship towards the last few games of his UF tenure. And no, nobody is irrational as sad. His ol lady doesn't put out probably because he squirms like a softie 🤣 with his silky metro hands.

Lol but I didn't say Norvell would be the next Woody Hayes. I just said the "he must have issues, can it be gambling?" Because he didn't jump to the Arkansas or Mississippi State jobs were nonsense. Michi and Soccer boy were all over that.

I mean the shiz was stupid back then. "Oh he is coming to Arkansas because he just built a lake house" but turn around with the "He was vetted so he must have a gambling debt" what fool that is a public figure with gambling debt builds a vacation home?

I made the point Norvell was no worse than Scott Frost(one who a lot wanted), despite the H2H. Frost had a better recruiting pool and better facilities at the time. So now that they are both P5 is Frost doing better than Norvell?

If you want to clown on me for something, I promoted Justin Fuente more than Norvell and a few more. I thought dude would be a badass with how he took one of the crappiest programs in the nation into a G5 contender. Also by not just making them a flashy offensive team but also a physical football team on both sides of the ball.
 
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lol Meyer and Muschamp should have showed him that is BS. Muschamp did have a knack of getting offensive players that weren't too good despite their rankings however.

Muschamp wanted to pound the ball on offense yet couldn’t recruit any OL. When he left we had like 6 scholarship OL

And he was so obsessed with “size” on offense we had no speed

he recruited so damn good DBs though
 
Muschamp wanted to pound the ball on offense yet couldn’t recruit any OL. When he left we had like 6 scholarship OL

And he was so obsessed with “size” on offense we had no speed

he recruited so damn good DBs though
Didnt he also have some badass LBers? Alex Anzalone, Jenkins, and some others?
 
Mullen is a good coach but he made a few missteps that cost him dearly. If he learns from his mistakes he made here he will likely do well wherever he ends up. UF is a pressure cooker as are about 10-15 other jobs around the country. I believe the pressure got to him and he was looking to get out. I think Mullen feels like a lot of weight is now off his shoulders. Probably a good move for everybody involved. Mullen may be better at one of those schools where the pressure isn’t as much (like a Miss St) but I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he is successful at his next stop.
 
Swear to god if Kiffin gets the job it'll be tough to root for florida. The guy is so off putting...and isn't a good coach. He's literally never been anywhere and had success for more than a couple of years as the HC, getting run out of town several times.
 
Mullen is a good coach but he made a few missteps that cost him dearly. If he learns from his mistakes he made here he will likely do well wherever he ends up. UF is a pressure cooker as are about 10-15 other jobs around the country. I believe the pressure got to him and he was looking to get out. I think Mullen feels like a lot of weight is now off his shoulders. Probably a good move for everybody involved. Mullen may be better at one of those schools where the pressure isn’t as much (like a Miss St) but I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he is successful at his next stop.
We’ll probably never know whether he “wanted out” or not…and that is the part that bothers sadgator so much…if we all had some patience, sadgator really thinks he had the stuff needed to be the guy…but we obviously can’t have nice things…

we’ll be right back in the same spot 3 years from now…it is really really really disappointing…
 
We’ll probably never know whether he “wanted out” or not…and that is the part that bothers sadgator so much…if we all had some patience, sadgator really thinks he had the stuff needed to be the guy…but we obviously can’t have nice things…

we’ll be right back in the same spot 3 years from now…it is really really really disappointing…
Sad, I really think he just wanted out.
 
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We’ll probably never know whether he “wanted out” or not…and that is the part that bothers sadgator so much…if we all had some patience, sadgator really thinks he had the stuff needed to be the guy…but we obviously can’t have nice things…

we’ll be right back in the same spot 3 years from now…it is really really really disappointing…
He got burnt out. The pressure was getting too him. Very similar to McElwain. Some guys can handle it and some can’t.
 
Sad won't listen to anything we say about Mullen checking out.

In fairness, the guy’s name is literally sadgator.

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He got burnt out. The pressure was getting too him. Very similar to McElwain. Some guys can handle it and some can’t.
Was it the pressure or complacency after getting so much money thrown at him? He was made a multi-millionaire by UF and he knew that he would get even more millions if he was fired. Maybe he just didn't have that competitive drive to work any more and was just satisfied to have the lifetime nest egg this job gave him.
 
Swear to god if Kiffin gets the job it'll be tough to root for florida. The guy is so off putting...and isn't a good coach. He's literally never been anywhere and had success for more than a couple of years as the HC, getting run out of town several times.
I've been on record as to saying it makes no sense to fire Dan and hire his carbon copy long lost separated at birth twin brother.

However he has only been ran out of town at USC. Oakland if you are counting the NFL. The move by USC honestly got them nowhere but another fired coach.
 
I've been on record as to saying it makes no sense to fire Dan and hire his carbon copy long lost separated at birth twin brother.

However he has only been ran out of town at USC. Oakland if you are counting the NFL. The move by USC honestly got them nowhere but another fired coach.
I was probably thinking of TN - he left but was beat up on the way out lol.
 
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Pretty sure some people said or thought the same thing about Mullen when he was at Miss State.

Kiffin is a better recruiter, but I won't be surprised if Ole Miss gets a heavy probation because of Kiffin one day, even if he's already left for greener pastures.

If he was offered the UF job for next season, and he accepted, that would be two schools that were previously needing major help that he abandoned in 1 year or less.

I don't want UF to be the 3rd.

If the Trojans came knocking, where it's likely to be his ideal, he would be gone quickly.
You hired Charley Pell, Sir. UF doesn't care about recruiting infractions. lol
 
He got burnt out. The pressure was getting too him. Very similar to McElwain. Some guys can handle it and some can’t.

Firing his friends (assistants) too late can be a sign of not being able to take pressure. Mullen can learn from successful pressure cooker jobs like how the Kansas City Chiefs canned their DC after that OT playoff loss to the Patriots, and they win the Lombardi the following year. He should have fired Grantham way earlier, and got off the recliner when it came to recruiting.
 
Pell was hired in the late 70s. That’s a long time ago! Nobody is around in the UF administration anymore from the Pell days. Tread lightly
Zook or Muschamp is no different, IMO. UF also went after Chip Kelly (he has a bad Rep) so you know.
 
I've been on record as to saying it makes no sense to fire Dan and hire his carbon copy long lost separated at birth twin brother.

However he has only been ran out of town at USC. Oakland if you are counting the NFL. The move by USC honestly got them nowhere but another fired coach.

Not sure why the NFL doesn’t count. Especially when the owner publicly says something like this:

Al Davis on Kiffin:

“It didn’t have to do with winning. It had to do with personality. It’s the first time I ever let anyone go based on what I call [being] just a flat-out liar.”

After firing Kiffin, Davis even tried to cancel his buyout. I know Al Davis was crazy, but how often do coaches get fired for cause because the administration/owner didn’t like something they said?

That was a long time ago, but it seems like Kiffin is either fired in a humiliating way or ends up starting riots wherever he leaves. In fairness, It looks like he left FAU on good terms. Maybe he’s matured.
 
Well, I've been around CFB for close to 6 decades so it doesn't seem like that long ago to me. I forget I'm talking to Similac Brats. You can't replace a real breast with a can.
Zook or Muschamp is no different, IMO. UF also went after Chip Kelly (he has a bad Rep) so you know.

Even if that was confirmed, which I never saw anything more than speculation, nothing official, it changes nothing of my preference of not having a coach that was very news worthy regarding being in trouble at 2 different schools and has a high likelihood that it could continue elsewhere.

Nor does it not make me feel good that UF could be the 3rd school he leaves in 1 year or less if he does well at UF.
 
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Not sure why the NFL doesn’t count. Especially when the owner publicly says something like this:

Al Davis on Kiffin:

“It didn’t have to do with winning. It had to do with personality. It’s the first time I ever let anyone go based on what I call [being] just a flat-out liar.”

After firing Kiffin, Davis even tried to cancel his buyout. I know Al Davis was crazy, but how often do coaches get fired for cause because the administration/owner didn’t like something they said?

That was a long time ago, but it seems like Kiffin is either fired in a humiliating way or ends up starting riots wherever he leaves. In fairness, It looks like he left FAU on good terms. Maybe he’s matured.

You have to be quite an @**to make Al Davis unhappy. He did turn the tide at FAU, of course when you get knocked down a branch from USC and got the rehabb with Saban, you don't want to lose your next chance.
 
You have to be quite an @**to make Al Davis unhappy. He did turn the tide at FAU, of course when you get knocked down a branch from USC and got the rehabb with Saban, you don't want to lose your next chance.
He's a liar and liars will always lie. That is a definite black mark against LK.
 
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