Please Just Hire Lane

[sadgator]

We’ll be lucky to get Dave Aranda if he doesn’t go to LSU when it is all said and done…

and Fever will be left holding his dick in his hand with a confused look on his face…

 

[Dannygator1989]

Indeed he did. He's been coaching, in different positions, for USC more than anywhere else. During his time as HC he also got hit with sanctions for paying Reggie Bush and his family with the NCAA saying there was a "lack of institutional control,".

This was right after getting in trouble with recruiting violations at Tenessee .

It's a trend.

That being said, colleges don't care too much about what happened in the past unless it's a huge personal scandal. If they think Kiffen is doing great and they want a new coach, he would be back.

The USC AD that fired kiffin is longer there.

Yeah so he wasn't the head coach when Reggie Bush was there.

And what rock do you live under? The NCAA has dropped to 9 committee members and paying players is now legal.

Nobody's getting hit for that anymore.

 

[Dannygator1989]

We’ll be lucky to get Dave Aranda if he doesn’t go to LSU when it is all said and done…

and Fever will be left holding his dick in his hand with a confused look on his face…

Hey, wanna respond to me? Hello!

Dan was done. Another year wouldn't help.

I didn't want him fired, but the gig was up. He had zero interest. What do you want?

 

[sadgator]

He had one bad season…

if he smile was telling…it was saying…

“the expectations these people have are unreasonably nuts”…

one bad season guys…one bad season…

every coaching candidate will know this…

get ready to become Tennessee…that is what we are now…

 

[NavigatorII]

Hey, wanna respond to me? Hello!

Dan was done. Another year wouldn't help.

I didn't want him fired, but the gig was up. He had zero interest. What do you want?

Sad's reverting to his pre-Spurrier schtick. 🤣 I wanted to keep Mullin. But Mullin made it clear he doesn't want to be here anymore. He's been in zombie mode since the UGA game.

 

[sadgator]

sadgator is ready to ensure that everybody who lobbied for this for the better half of this season knows they will get exactly what they deserve…

 

[Dannygator1989]

He had one bad season…

if he smile was telling…it was saying…

“the expectations these people have are unreasonably nuts”…

one bad season guys…one bad season…

every coaching candidate will know this…

get ready to become Tennessee…that is what we are now…

So keep Mullen who put out feelers to the NFL 2 years ago and is has been disengaged since we lost to Alabama this year?

What good lord does that do? He's recruiting terribly.

 

[sadgator]

So keep Mullen who put out feelers to the NFL 2 years ago and is has been disengaged since we lost to Alabama this year?

What good lord does that do? He's recruiting terribly.

sadgator thinks the disengaged thing was overblown…

the mob got him…and the team…plain and simple…

and they’ll be sorry…

 

[NavigatorII]

sadgator is ready to ensure that everybody who lobbied for this for the better half of this season knows they will get exactly what they deserve…

Sad needs to remember what the Guru once said. "We don't want people here who really don't want to be Gators".

Steven Orr Spurrier

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

sadgator is ready to ensure that everybody who lobbied for this for the better half of this season knows they will get exactly what they deserve…

So you're gonna show everyone how wrong Fever was.....by becoming Fever over this firing?

LOL. That'll show em.

 

[Michi_Gator]

sadgator thinks the disengaged thing was overblown…

the mob got him…and the team…plain and simple…

and they’ll be sorry…

Sad

i was a huge Mullen supporter. Still believe he is a great offensive mind.

But after watching yesterday I truly believe he wanted out. And I think its partly because he knows with the poor recruiting its only going to get worse.

And sure, we could bring him back, but we watched Foley do that with Muschamp after the GaSo season and what happened, a couple games in it was over.

Now yes, we run people out at a weird rate but this one was over.

As foe the next hire, we shall see. I think Stricklin will play it as “safe” as he can. Not sure he gambles. Now what is safe, I don’t know.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

We’ll be lucky to get Dave Aranda if he doesn’t go to LSU when it is all said and done…

Just curious, why is Aranda's name not coming up as a candidate?

 

[sadgator]

So you're gonna show everyone how wrong Fever was.....by becoming Fever over this firing?

LOL. That'll show em.

The irony is not lost on sadgator…

 

[KingofHedgehogs]

He had one bad season…

if he smile was telling…it was saying…

“the expectations these people have are unreasonably nuts”…

one bad season guys…one bad season…

every coaching candidate will know this…

get ready to become Tennessee…that is what we are now…

Said it before, Trask "covered" UF last year from how bad it really was. If Felipe franks didn't get hurt than UF would have lost to UK. No way is Franks leading a 19 point rally in the 4th quarter.

That would mean at least 5 losses. With Franks, I'm sure we would have dropped at least another game somewhere. That would make it realistically 7-5.

Yes, the qb position is important but ideally you never want to live or die by 1 person, even at the qb position. Lots of teams have greatly succeeded no matter who was in the qb situation if they could at least be average and the rest of the offense and defense were very good.

That wasn't the case for UF and the proof was in the pudding. Mullen's tenure had warning signs even before this season.

 

[TennesseeGator]

If Kiffin can win at Old Mess he can do it at Florida.

I hate to keep repeating the same post but If Mullen can win at Messesseppi State he can do it at Florida. Oh wait!

Lateral move

 

[Michi_Gator]

I hate to keep repeating the same post but If Mullen can win at Messesseppi State he can do it at Florida. Oh wait!

Lateral move

You are correct, that was often said about Mullen.

That said, all this “lateral move” stuff is confusing. So its better to go grab a G5 which has honestly been a failure for schools far more often than not over the past few years.

 

[Dannygator1989]

I hate to keep repeating the same post but If Mullen can win at Messesseppi State he can do it at Florida. Oh wait!

Lateral move

Norvell.

Tell me more about him.

 

[TennesseeGator]

The irony is not lost on sadgator…

I don't know who was the better captain of the sinking ship.

Sad with Mullen
or
Danny with Muschamp?

Wait

Insta for Grantham

 

[NavigatorII]

I hate to keep repeating the same post but If Mullen can win at Messesseppi State he can do it at Florida. Oh wait!

Lateral move

Hate to see this, but Mullin really made his own bed, now he's sleeping in it. Now that's it's done, now who? And that's why I'm sad he didn't give a shit.

 

[TennesseeGator]

Norvell.

Tell me more about him.

Not a lateral move. Was a gamble on an up and comer like we did with Mac and Muschamp. Hell even Meyer was a roll of the dice but that one was the lucky roll.

Edit: Jury is still out on Norvell. Took over a down team during a pandemic and when 80% of college kids became woke. Not an excuse but it's legit to an extent.

 

[TennesseeGator]

You are correct, that was often said about Mullen.

That said, all this “lateral move” stuff is confusing. So its better to go grab a G5 which has honestly been a failure for schools far more often than not over the past few years.

Throw out big money and get an established P5 coach. Not impossible.

 

[Michi_Gator]

Throw out big money and get an established P5 coach. Not impossible.

not impossible.

Although unless its Saban, Kirby, Reilly, Dabo or Ryan Day its essentially a “lateral move”

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I don't know who was the better captain of the sinking ship.

Sad with Mullen
or
Danny with Muschamp?

Wait

Insta for Grantham

Insta is on the Lounge now claiming that Mullen's downfall was that Florida wouldn't spend on recruiting. Apparently that's why Mullen couldn't sign studs.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

not impossible.

Although unless its Saban, Kirby, Reilly, Dabo or Ryan Day its essentially a “lateral move”

So you're saying Mullen is a Top 10 coach? Then why did you just fire him?

 

[TennesseeGator]

not impossible.

Although unless its Saban, Kirby, Reilly, Dabo or Ryan Day its essentially a “lateral move”

Kyle Whittingham.

And the only one I say lateral move on is Lane Kiffin. All the hype is what he has done at a college in Mississippi with an NFL QB.

Hugh Freeze doesn't fit this bill because he won big there and made marginal outcast QB's into winners.

Not advocating for an up and comer but Kirby is on your list and was hired as an up and comer.

 

[Michi_Gator]

Kyle Whittingham.

And the only one I say lateral move on is Lane Kiffin. All the hype is what he has done at a college in Mississippi with an NFL QB.

Hugh Freeze doesn't fit this bill because he won big there and made marginal outcast QB's into winners.

Not advocating for an up and comer but Kirby is on your list and was hired as an up and comer.

i am fine with Freeze and understand his up side but I am not sure the admin will even consider it

Kirby was with Saban pretty much since he arrived at Bama. Coaching SEC defenses and recruiting elite SEC talent.

Far different than coaching and recruiting at a G5

 

[Michi_Gator]

So you're saying Mullen is a Top 10 coach? Then why did you just fire him?

No. Nowhere did I say that. Not even close.

 

[TennesseeGator]

i am fine with Freeze and understand his up side but I am not sure the admin will even consider it

Kirby was with Saban pretty much since he arrived at Bama. Coaching SEC defenses and recruiting elite SEC talent.

Far different than coaching and recruiting at a G5

Yes on what you said about Kirby, but are you wanting to go the P5 coordinator route? The Bama/Saban assistant coach route again?


My only skin in this whole argument is I really don't think we will improve anything by hiring Lane. I have nothing against the guy whatsoever. Just think it would be silly to fire Dan and hire what I damn near think is his twin brother.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Yes on what you said about Kirby, but are you wanting to go the P5 coordinator route? The Bama/Saban assistant coach route again?


My only skin in this whole argument is I really don't think we will improve anything by hiring Lane. I have nothing against the guy whatsoever. Just think it would be silly to fire Dan and hire what I damn near think is his twin brother.

I think the biggest attraction to Kiffin is he can recruit. If you look at most of the names being batted around, almost all are elite recruiters. That kinda signals what most fans wanted from Mullen that they didn't get: Good recruiting.

BTW just got off Twitter. Apparently the UF fans on Twitter want Muschamp back LOL

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

He had one bad season…

if he smile was telling…it was saying…

“the expectations these people have are unreasonably nuts”…

one bad season guys…one bad season…

every coaching candidate will know this…

get ready to become Tennessee…that is what we are now…

This is all speculation, but I wonder if things might have been different if Strickland really went to bat for Mullen when things started going downhill. Reminding people Mullen had a couple of great seasons and making it clear that he had Mullen’s back might have kept him from mentally checking out and helped recruiting.

Of course, I don’t know what their relationship is like. Maybe Strickland had good reasons for leaving Mullen to twist in the wind.

 

[Michi_Gator]

Yes on what you said about Kirby, but are you wanting to go the P5 coordinator route? The Bama/Saban assistant coach route again?


My only skin in this whole argument is I really don't think we will improve anything by hiring Lane. I have nothing against the guy whatsoever. Just think it would be silly to fire Dan and hire what I damn near think is his twin brother.

And I am not saying “Lane or Bust”. Title was basically more of a “well shit, this is over (Mullen era)”

As for Lane I like that his floor is probably higher than say a Napier. But you may be right in his ceiling has a limit.

I mean in an ideal world Hugh Freeze shows up, he recruits, wins big games and can obviously maximize his talent as Shea Patterson became a dud once he moved on to Harbaugh.

Outside Lane I like Aranda at Baylor. I am not a huge Matt Campbell fan. And no I am not suggesting a Saban coordinator and I am typically not a huge fan of defensive coaches.

I guess more than anything is I see Lane and see a guy who I don’t think would completely F it up like Champ or Mac did.

 

[TennesseeGator]

I think the biggest attraction to Kiffin is he can recruit. If you look at most of the names being batted around, almost all are elite recruiters. That kinda signals what most fans wanted from Mullen that they didn't get: Good recruiting.

BTW just got off Twitter. Apparently the UF fans on Twitter want Muschamp back LOL

As a Bama fan do you credit Lane as a good recruiter when he was there or is it hard to tell because Bama signed a top 3 class every year regardless of who was the assistant?

I do remember he signed some good classes way back when while he was at USC but that was nearly a decade ago. UT was even further back.

His recruiting at Ole Miss resembles Mullen's at MSU.

I don't know, I dislike talking bad about the guy. I just see him as a carbon copy of Dan Mullen.

 

[KingofHedgehogs]

Insta is on the Lounge now claiming that Mullen's downfall was that Florida wouldn't spend on recruiting. Apparently that's why Mullen couldn't sign studs.

Of course he's saying that. Otherwise he would have to admit he was wrong on multiple things.

I never saw the dude once admit he was wrong or "open" to the possibility of being wrong on anything.

 

[TennesseeGator]

This is all speculation, but I wonder if things might have been different if Strickland really went to bat for Mullen when things started going downhill. Reminding people Mullen had a couple of great seasons and making it clear that he had Mullen’s back might have kept him from mentally checking out and helped recruiting.

Of course, I don’t know what their relationship is like. Maybe Strickland had good reasons for leaving Mullen to twist in the wind.

Understand your point.

I guess if anything Lane is rejuvenated while Dan was crashing and burning. Build on the positives Dan built and correct the mistakes.

Who knows how it will work out?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Of course he's saying that. Otherwise he would have to admit he was wrong on multiple things.

I never saw the dude once admit he was wrong or "open" to the possibly being wrong on anything.

UPDATE: Insta is now claiming that if you put Saban at UF, his recruiting will be just as bad as Mullen's and if you put Mullen at UA, that he will suddenly sign the #1 or #2 class every year.

 

[TennesseeGator]

UPDATE: Insta is now claiming that if you put Saban at UF, his recruiting will be just as bad as Mullen's and if you put Mullen at UA, that he will suddenly sign the #1 or #2 class every year.

He has gone kookoo.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

As a Bama fan do you credit Lane as a good recruiter when he was there or is it hard to tell because Bama signed a top 3 class every year regardless of who was the assistant?

I do remember he signed some good classes way back when while he was at USC but that was nearly a decade ago. UT was even further back.

His recruiting at Ole Miss resembles Mullen's at MSU.

I don't know, I dislike talking bad about the guy. I just see him as a carbon copy of Dan Mullen.

Kiffin is a very good recruiter. Saban doesn't hire coordinators or elevate position coaches unless they can recruit. Someone on the Lounge mentioned they wanted Tennessee to hire Mullen as an offensive analyst. I immediately thought of Saban doing that and then realized he likely wouldn't hire Mullen simply cause he can't recruit.

Even Insta knows that.

Back to Kiffin, could he sign solid Top 5 classes every year at Florida? That's tough to say. I do think most if not all of his classes would be Top 10. Not sure about Top 5.

 

[KingofHedgehogs]

UPDATE: Insta is now claiming that if you put Saban at UF, his recruiting will be just as bad as Mullen's and if you put Mullen at UA, that he will suddenly sign the #1 or #2 class every year.

Further reason that Im fully convinced he's a troll trying to get his jollies.

 

[Michi_Gator]

Kiffin is a very good recruiter. Saban doesn't hire coordinators or elevate position coaches unless they can recruit. Someone on the Lounge mentioned they wanted Tennessee to hire Mullen as an offensive analyst. I immediately thought of Saban doing that and then realized he likely wouldn't hire Mullen simply cause he can't recruit.

Even Insta knows that.

Back to Kiffin, could he sign solid Top 5 classes every year at Florida? That's tough to say. I do think most if not all of his classes would be Top 10. Not sure about Top 5.

thats why I can’t say he is a completely “lateral move” to Mullen because he would do better recruiting Florida

 

[NavigatorII]

Further reason that Im fully convinced he's a troll trying to get his jollies.

I don't think so. He believes his stuff. I like Insta, but his football posts make me laugh.
Insta's tombstone. "I called the Kyle Trask scenario ". 🤣