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Ole Miss vs Memphis

I think you might be getting a little ahead of yourself. Well, make that a LOT.

I think it is far more likely that Florida beats FSU than Florida wins the SECCG. But doing one or both will be very tough.

I don't know what's more likely...but I agree it's a LONG way from happening. But hey, two months ago, who would have predicted UF with just one loss at this point? Been an interesting season. College football never disappoints!
 
You would think FSU fans might wait until the end of a game before they proclaim this kind of stuff.
Hardliner,

You must not be watching this offensive clinic Bama is putting on right now. Best team in the country. Not even close.

In retrospect, this is pretty funny right about now.
 
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I'm not sure what the big debate is about. Top to bottom the SEC is a better conference than the ACC. The ACC is currently a 2-trick pony in FSU and Clemson.

That said, each conference has two teams each with CFP realistic hopes.

ACC = Clemson & FSU
*SEC = LSU & Bama (although Bama's loss to Ole Miss is looking worse each week)

*caveat, UF wins out they're in (obviously)
Not any more
 
You would think FSU fans might wait until the end of a game before they proclaim this kind of stuff.


In retrospect, this is pretty funny right about now.

Why do I need to wait until the end of a FSU game to state that Alabama is not the best team in the country?
 
Why do I need to wait until the end of a FSU game to state that Alabama is not the best team in the country?
I still contend that they are the best. In an age of parity they have the most talented roster. There are certainly others that have played closer to their potential. Maybe they've been better "teams" so far. But I can't help but believe that the talent differential and a proven coaching staff will win out in the end. These are the same reasons people keep ranking Ohio st at the top.
 
The SEC is not good this year. It just isn't. Bama being the best team in the country is laughable btw.

FSU and Clemson would run everyone in the SEC out of the building. Maybe Bama could hang for a half maybe. SEC is so bad this year it's sad.

Bama also lost at home to a team that just lost to Memphis. This is a point that you continue ignoring. They lost. At home. To Mississippi. And now they would magically throttle everyone in the top 10?

Bama is not the best team in the country. Baylor would hang 50 on them, OSU would smack them around again. LSU would be a tossup. Let's remember Bama lost at home to Ole Miss

Hardliner,

You must not be watching this offensive clinic Bama is putting on right now. Best team in the country. Not even close.

Why do I need to wait until the end of a FSU game to state that Alabama is not the best team in the country?
Do all you noles want to stand behind these statements now?
Look, I'm no Bama fan, just the opposite. In fact I hate them and their fanbase. But I DO KNOW FOOTBALL, Bama has the most complete and talented roster in the ncaa. They may not win every game they may not win the CFP but they are the best collection of talent.
 
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Do all you noles want to stand behind these statements now?

Whew. Dodged a Bullet.

On July 27, 2015, Igloo stated:

Sep. 5 Texas State - W
Sep. 12 South Florida - W
Sep. 18 at Boston College - W
Oct. 3 at Wake Forest - W
Oct. 10 Miami-FL - W
Oct. 17 Louisville - W
Oct. 24 at Georgia Tech (#17) - L
Oct. 31 Syracuse - W
Nov. 7 at Clemson (#12) - L
Nov. 14 NC State - W
Nov. 21 Chattanooga - W
Nov. 28 at Florida - W

Final: 10-2 with a bowl berth and no ACCCG
 
Do all you noles want to stand behind these statements now?

I stand behind my statement that Bama is not the best team in the country. I personally don't think they would beat Clemson on a neutral field. They just got whooped by Ohio State last year in the playoffs. Baylor and Okie State would put points up on that defense a well. Hell, let's not act like their game @Mississippi State next week is a slam dunk. They lost to Ole Miss and struggled with Tennessee and Arkansas. People love to fawn all over Bama after they have a good game though.
 
I stand behind my statement that Bama is not the best team in the country. I personally don't think they would beat Clemson on a neutral field.

We might find out about the later? And you are right about the former. Not one poll of any importance will rank Alabama as #1.

They just got whooped by Ohio State last year in the playoffs.

Just what does that have to do with this year?

People love to fawn all over Bama after they have a good game though.

Your SEC envy is showing
 
I stand behind my statement that Bama is not the best team in the country. I personally don't think they would beat Clemson on a neutral field. They just got whooped by Ohio State last year in the playoffs. Baylor and Okie State would put points up on that defense a well. Hell, let's not act like their game @Mississippi State next week is a slam dunk. They lost to Ole Miss and struggled with Tennessee and Arkansas. People love to fawn all over Bama after they have a good game though.
So you are saying Clemson has more talent than Bama? In a position by position comparison Clemson is better? And I guess that means they have better depth too?
Look, I know you're in a tough spot needing to build Clemson up because of what happened yesterday. But that's just ignorant.
Clemson could very will win a game against Bama. (eg. Fsu-GT 2015) But to come here and proclaim them "better" is a stretch. Especially if you're taking quality of talent, depth and quality of coaching into account for your comparison.
 
So you are saying Clemson has more talent than Bama?

It's not about talent. Clemson is just a better team this year. I'm sure over the last 2.5 years Bama had more talent than Auburn, Oklahoma, Ohio State, and Ole Miss. They still lost. Alabama has an average OL and a bad QB this year. They can lose to anyone as evidenced by their games with Ole Miss, Tennessee, and Arkansas. Sports fans are prisoners of the moment though and will overreact to the LSU game. It's just what fans do.
 
It's not about talent. Clemson is just a better team this year. I'm sure over the last 2.5 years Bama had more talent than Auburn, Oklahoma, Ohio State, and Ole Miss. They still lost. Alabama has an average OL and a bad QB this year. They can lose to anyone as evidenced by their games with Ole Miss, Tennessee, and Arkansas. Sports fans are prisoners of the moment though and will overreact to the LSU game. It's just what fans do.
Ok. So you're saying they execute at a level that's so much higher than Bama that it makes up for the talent deficit?
I've allowed that any team can lose on any day. But you're arguing that Clemson is clearly better and should be expected to win vs Bama. That's delusional
I'm not reacting to anything. This thread is from weeks ago. And I'm no Bama fan.
 
The good news is this; we have a college football playoff. If both teams win out, they could get a chance to meet.
 
Whew. Dodged a Bullet.

On July 27, 2015, Igloo stated:

Sep. 5 Texas State - W
Sep. 12 South Florida - W
Sep. 18 at Boston College - W
Oct. 3 at Wake Forest - W
Oct. 10 Miami-FL - W
Oct. 17 Louisville - W
Oct. 24 at Georgia Tech (#17) - L
Oct. 31 Syracuse - W
Nov. 7 at Clemson (#12) - L
Nov. 14 NC State - W
Nov. 21 Chattanooga - W
Nov. 28 at Florida - W

Final: 10-2 with a bowl berth and no ACCCG

Are you a wizard?
 
How you feeling about that November 28 prediction?

After yesterday?

I feel pretty good. Your QB play is well below average. Your oline is a little better than ours, your kicking game is suspect to be polite.

I see a 14-10 game going either way.
 
"FSU and Clemson would run everyone in the SEC out of the building. Maybe Bama could hang for a half maybe. SEC is so bad this year it's sad." --hardliner

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FSUs defense is just average at best and underachieving for the 2nd year in a row. They have more talent on defense than the way they are playing. FSUs DC Kelly is not very good as it was especially evidenced last night in the 4th quarter on Clemson's final TD run. Herbstreit even called it out as he was baffled as to what type of defensive calls were being made on FSUs defense.
 
After yesterday?

I feel pretty good. Your QB play is well below average. Your oline is a little better than ours, your kicking game is suspect to be polite.

I see a 14-10 game going either way.
Our defense is significantly better.
 
I certainly hope so, because that means we beat UF. :p
We are your Super Bowl. We are validation that for all the woes for FSU fans this year. If FSU manages to beat Florida, at least they can claim their team is better than the best SEC East team.

They have nothing else. As BONG might say, we are their Alpha and their Omega.
 
We are your Super Bowl. We are validation that for all the woes for FSU fans this year, at least they can claim their team is better than the best SEC East team.

They have nothing else. As BONG might say, we are their Alpha and their Omega.

I won't argue that other than you could supplement UF with any ranked P5 for our final game. FSU just needs to beat someone with a pulse going into the bowl season.

That said, I would LOVE for it to be UF. ;)
 
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