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I'll wait and see how year 2 goes. This is an interesting link on how some coaches did their first year to their second. Saban had bad first years at Michigan State, LSwho, and Bama, but seems to have turned it around. Mullen had a bad first year at MSU, good second and in his eleventh year as a head coach, first year of coaching the Gators, had a great to be a gator year. Smart's first year of being a head coach was bad, but has turned it around. I guess a good point is, who knows what the next year will bring? The previous year is in the past, the game is played on the field.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/10/5/16403562/ncaa-football-coaches-year-1-losses
 
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G8R71 said:
I'll wait and see how year 2 goes. This is an interesting link on how some coaches did their first year to their second. Saban had bad first years at Michigan State, LSwho, and Bama, but seems to have turned it around. Mullen had a bad first year at MSU, good second and in his eleventh year as a head coach, first year of coaching the Gators, had a great to be a gator year. Smart's first year of being a head coach was bad, but has turned it around. I guess a good point is, who knows what the next year will bring? The previous year is in the past, the game is played on the field.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/10/5/16403562/ncaa-football-coaches-year-1-losses
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A gator with a little sense.
 
GwinnettDawg said:
I imagine you are much more focused on UK and Mizzou these days since that’s your competition.
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And yet you guys aren’t infesting the boards of your supposed competition, why is that? It would be the equivalent of us living on Vandy’s boards talking shit daily. Would seem pointless for a team that isn’t a threat to you in any way. Y’all are worried about something, clearly.
 
oozie7 said:
And yet you guys aren’t infesting the boards of your supposed competition, why is that? It would be the equivalent of us living on Vandy’s boards talking shit daily. Would seem pointless for a team that isn’t a threat to you in any way. Y’all are worried about something, clearly.
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I think the bammer boards are locked down for the great unwashed only. Is there even a vandy board? This one is more fun, y’all are ok for the most part. It’s gotten better with that crazy fvck ohs barner here.
 
PacoGator19 said:
Last time I checked 5 losses is more than 3 losses. Oh yeah and UGA lost only 3 games the year prior but regressed to losing 5 games under Smart. UF went from 4 wins to 10 wins. Significant improvement.

Didn’t Smart lose to McElwain and Jones in 2 of those games. 2 coaches that sucked and are no longer at that school. Very poor coaching job by Smart in year 1.
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To be fair, he's had bad coaching every year at Georgia. The difference was, in year 2 and year 3 he had stacked up so much talent that it was able to overcome his coaching blunders in many cases.

But not in all. Just ask Alabama.
 
GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
To be fair, he's had bad coaching every year at Georgia. The difference was, in year 2 and year 3 he had stacked up so much talent that it was able to overcome his coaching blunders in many cases.

But not in all. Just ask Alabama.
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Hmm, sounds like the master. Any time Saban encounters similar talent he usually loses. Maybe Kirby got his bad gameday tendencies from 9 years with the GOAT.
 
When Saban takes a school with the history of a SCa to 3 consecutive 11 win seasons and an their only appearance in the SEC-C game,,,, then I might call him the GOAT. Until then, he's just the goat driver of the red-turds cheaterbu$... :rolleyes:
 
oozie7 said:
And yet you guys aren’t infesting the boards of your supposed competition, why is that? It would be the equivalent of us living on Vandy’s boards talking shit daily. Would seem pointless for a team that isn’t a threat to you in any way. Y’all are worried about something, clearly.
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I’m worried about Dorky Dan’s wardrobe...
 
Jaxbchdawg said:
No, Fromm ran them off, then proceeded to run the gators off the field
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Like I said, they might disagree with your spin. I don't think Kirby's recruiting pitch to Fields was "Come to Georgia and I'll misuse you as a true freshman, only give you a handful of meaningless snaps, then in the biggest game of the year, let you play QB on a horrible playcall then blame you when it doesn't work".

Somehow, I'm thinking Kirby promised Fields a little more than that.
 
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Jaxbchdawg said:
Perhaps you should go check out Fromm’s freshman stats compared to Franks’ “redshirt” sophomore year :rolleyes:
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Why? Everyone knows Fromm has always been a much better QB than Franks.

Point is, Franks was much improved in his first year under Mullen. He'll continue to improve this year.

If history is any indicator, Kirby will run off Fromm this year.
 
G8R71 said:
I'll wait and see how year 2 goes. This is an interesting link on how some coaches did their first year to their second. Saban had bad first years at Michigan State, LSwho, and Bama, but seems to have turned it around. Mullen had a bad first year at MSU, good second and in his eleventh year as a head coach, first year of coaching the Gators, had a great to be a gator year. Smart's first year of being a head coach was bad, but has turned it around. I guess a good point is, who knows what the next year will bring? The previous year is in the past, the game is played on the field.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/10/5/16403562/ncaa-football-coaches-year-1-losses
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Well if we look at W/L records it's simple to say "bad year" however one has to go further back and look at who they replaced and what was left for them to work with.

Dan Mullen replaced Sly Croom and a bunch of mediocre players. Were any of Croom's players on any All SEC teams?

Nick Saban replaced Gerry DiNardo who was career suckage and only claim to fame was making Vanderbilt a "tough" game. Michigan State has always been up and down with the average usually being average. Sure Mich State occasionally has that great season but they also have that occasional suckage season. I don't even know who Saban took over for at Mich State and honestly don't care. His first season at LSU showed promise from the jump.

Smart took over for a guy...who did usually choke at least once a year...but a coach who averaged over 10 wins a year and had All SEC and All American talent on the roster.

Both Smart and Mullen will be good. It's just all of this "Smart will dominate Mullen and will kick Nick ass consistently because we rank high in recruiting" is a bunch of nonsense.

All I will predict...Nick is going to continue to make the SECCG but he will face some fierce competition from both Smart and Mullen.

I also would not be surprised to see Smart "Fulmer" and "Mack Brown" his way to one title. By having loads of talent and everything else set up in his favor schedule and injury wise. I see Mullen eventually being as good as Spurrier before it's all said and done.
 
GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Like I said, they might disagree with your spin. I don't think Kirby's recruiting pitch to Fields was "Come to Georgia and I'll misuse you as a true freshman, only give you a handful of meaningless snaps, then in the biggest game of the year, let you play QB on a horrible playcall then blame you when it doesn't work".

Somehow, I'm thinking Kirby promised Fields a little more than that.
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Smart promised Fields a chance to earn the position, not a starting spot.
 
oozie7 said:
So then why are you making excuses about Kirby starting freshmen when Fromm is apparently so good he can run off multiple 5-stars? Obviously his age didn’t matter.
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Or maybe Kirby is a hell of a coach. Know what I’m saying?
 
GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Like I said, they might disagree with your spin. I don't think Kirby's recruiting pitch to Fields was "Come to Georgia and I'll misuse you as a true freshman, only give you a handful of meaningless snaps, then in the biggest game of the year, let you play QB on a horrible playcall then blame you when it doesn't work".

Somehow, I'm thinking Kirby promised Fields a little more than that.
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Why am I not surprised? You have no clue what Kirby told fields. Perhaps he told him that if he came in and earned the job it would be his. And maybe, just maybe, the guy didn’t know how to play under center, read defenses, and go through his progressions. Thus, saw the writing on the wall and hauled ass.
 
GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
If you're trying to spin that Kirby is behind Fromm's passing ability then no, I don't think anyone here knows what you are saying LMAO!
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Nope, just saying that he puts together complete teams that can win with freshmen QB’s. He doesn’t rely on all world QB’s like your boy Dan to win big ;)
 
Dan developed Dak Prescott and Alex Smith into all world QBs. I don’t believe either one of them were highly recruited high school prospects. They left college with a lot more notoriety then when they entered.
 
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PacoGator19 said:
Dan developed Dak Prescott and Alex Smith into all world QBs. I don’t believe either one of them were highly recruited high school prospects. They left college with a lot more notoriety then when they entered.
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Either way, doubt we’ll ever see a Dan Mullen coached team win anything of significance without a seasoned stud under center. That should clear things up a bit for ya...
 
Jaxbchdawg said:
And maybe, just maybe, the guy didn’t know how to play under center, read defenses, and go through his progressions. Thus, saw the writing on the wall and hauled ass.
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So you're saying Kirby put the end of the SECCG in the hands of a true freshman who didn't know how to play under center, read defenses or go through his progressions?

Then you are agreeing with me that Kirby blew the SECCG due to bad coaching decisions. Progress at last.
 
PacoGator19 said:
Dan developed Dak Prescott and Alex Smith into all world QBs. I don’t believe either one of them were highly recruited high school prospects. They left college with a lot more notoriety then when they entered.
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That's because Mullen can develop QBs.

Kirby cannot, that's why he's already lost Eason and Fields.
 
Jaxbchdawg said:
Either way, doubt we’ll ever see a Dan Mullen coached team win anything of significance without a seasoned stud under center. That should clear things up a bit for ya...
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Yep. He was only the OC & QB coach when UF won the national title with a true freshmen QB that heavily contributed. And coached the first ever Sophmore to ever win a Heisman Trophy. So no he’s ever won anything of significance. LOL
 
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Yep. He was only the OC & QB coach when UF won the national title with a true freshmen QB that heavily contributed. And coached the first ever Sophmore to ever win a Heisman Trophy. So no he’s ever won anything of significance. LOL
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Him trying to claim Kirby gets credit for how Fromm is playing is one of the best displays of homerism I've ever seen. He forgets that Fromm first committed to Alabama.

I don't recall Saban saying "Man that kid is great, can't wait to get him on campus and SEE WHAT KIRBY CAN DO WITH HIM!" LMAO!
 
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