Funny thing is these same guys were on a Florida board like this back in 2002 claiming Richt was the new Bobby Bowden
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Funny thing is these same guys were on a Florida board like this back in 2002 claiming Richt was the new Bobby Bowden
To be fair, they did the same thing last year and the year before.
Leghumpers think #1 on NSD translates directly to #1 in January. Kirby's disappointed them the last 2 years, but still they believe LOL
He’s done great things with Franks. Franks just doesn’t scare me. Justin Fields in his offense would scare me.
Fromm had a pretty impressive year 2:
2761 yards 30 TD’s and 6 INT’s
I wonder if you are really this ignorant, or just being the usual jawja buttsniffin liar?
2008 OC/QB's Dan 31 - 20 DC 4th and Dumb --- for the SEC-C...
4th and Dumb finished 2nd to Dan at UF in 2008.
4th and Dumb finished 2nd (6 ro 8) to Dan at UF in 2018.
Speaking of finishing, which SEC team was #1 in the league in 4th quarter rushing ypc in 2018?
Hint: The one that will likely be #1 in that category for 2019...
Funny thing is Florida fans have been far more objective and realistic toward Mullen than Georgia fans have been toward Kirby.
And Mullen had a much better first season than Kirby did, and most objective people believe Mullen is clearly the better coach. Yet the leghumpers are still the ones being homers over Nick Saban Jr. LOL
So Mullen in one year almost had 3-star Franks matching the output of 5-star Fromm in his SECOND year in Kirby's system?
Coaching and player development. Now you see why I like Mullen more than Kirby.
Hmm, you may want to go check their recruiting rankings and get back to me, chief.
They were both 4 star recruits and top 5 ranked pro style QB’s.
Ok I checked and I'm back.
Here's a link to Fromm's Rivals profile as a 5-star -
Here's a link to Franks' Rivals profile as a 4-star -
Franks was a 3-star when he committed to LSU, that's what I was thinking of.
Clearly, Fromm was the better prospect coming out of high school, and even Florida fans will tell you Fromm has a much higher ceiling than Franks.
And yet.....one season is all it took for Mullen to have Franks playing at about the same level as Fromm in his second season in Kirby's system.
Coaching and player development.
I know this is a rivals site, but I looked at the 247 rankings...they have both as 4 stars. Either way, I hear what you’re saying. Mullen deserves a lot of credit for what’s he done with Franks, no doubt about it.
Franks just doesn’t worry most Georgia fans.
I know a lot of Georgia fans suddenly love the 247 rankings because they typically have Georgia ranked a little higher than Rivals does.
There's a key difference between the rankings that you need to consider:
Rivals ranks players based on perceived ability to make an impact in COLLEGE
247 ranks players based on perceived ability to play in the NFL
Given that players progress at different rates, I prefer to use Rivals rankings for that reason as it seems more logical to base college football rankings based on how kids will do in......college.
Actually, rivals had us ranked higher than 247 this last cycle. I’ve just always preferred the 247 composite ranking.
ESPN and Scout are both garbage rankings and unless 247 has changed, they are about half their composite scores. That alone invalidates their rankings IMO.
247 rankings by itself are not bad.
There's no universe where Kirby is chasing Muschamp in the coaching department. You're losing credibility brother.
Wrong. According to Mike Farrell, 5 stars are supposed to be first round NFL draft guys.
True Soph Fromm
67.3%, 9.0 yds/attempt, 171.2 rating
Redshirt Soph Franks
58.4%, 7.6 yds/attempt, 143.3 rating
Different levels, especially as one has had a redshirt year in college.
No. Rivals ranks players based on their attendance or lack thereof at rivals camps. 247 composite takes all services into account.
One was also in the first year of a system he wasn’t recruited for and doesn’t fit particularly well while the other was in year 2 of a system he was recruited for and protected by the supposed best offensive line in football with a strong running game to boot. Not really the same.
That's correct. Getting drafted first round isn't the same as playing in the NFL. You need to re-read what I actually said.
Anyone need any further proof of extreme butthurt?
This...
I'm not predicting Mullen to be the next Saban or even the next Meyer. I'm not predicting Mullen to knock anybody off any throne. I'm not predicting NC title wins or even a playoff this season. Year 3 is the year he steps it up. He was given less than Kirby was so that's why I say year 3 vs Kirby's year two.
I do predict that Mullen won't have a losing record to UGA when it's all said and done. I do predict that both Kirby and Mullen will give Bama fierce competition in Atlanta and will get some wins. Bama meanwhile will continue to Bama as long as Saban is there but will drop a few SECCG's to both.
As I've stated Kirby will "Mack Brown" and "Phil Fulmer" his way to one title. Dan will be the Spurrier thorn in the side of Fulmer or the Bob Stoops thron in the side of Brown. Dan will get his title as well and probably more than one.
Both will recruit the stars. Bama will continue to recruit the stars. However I honestly think Mullen will develop his recruits to be championship caliber winners.
I think Mullen will end up winning about 70% of his games against Georgia while at Florida.
I don't think Kirby will ever beat Bama to win the SEC.
I would not be surprised to see Mullen beat Bama to win the SEC at least once, maybe twice. I think in 2-3 years he will be rolling full steam at Florida, and will be very dangerous then. I also think A&M will be rolling around the same time.
The problem that Georgia is about to run into is that when recruits see that Florida is going to contend for the East every year, recruiting will be a LOT easier for Mullen. I've said all along that he's not a great recruiter, but I've also said that once he proves to recruits that he can win at Florida, that recruiting will be much easier.
Kirby can't beat Mullen if Mullen is getting Top 10 talent every class. It doesn't matter where Georgia's class is if that happens.
I think Florida will get about 15 years out of Mullen, I think A&M will get 7-10 from Jimbo. I think Bama will get another 5-8 from Saban and Georgia will fire Kirby in 2-3 years.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone with so much animosity towards a coach. Oozie has a animosity towards me, but I’m not a coach.
He’s gotta be doing something right to have an SEC title, Rose Bowl CFP win, and two #1 recruiting classes in his first 3 years. But Muschamp?!?! That’s laughable...
Okay... let's use Fromm's true freshman stats: 62.2%, 9.0 ypa, 160.1 rating.
First year in a new system, first year in the SEC.
Edit: I'm not bashing Franks. His improvement has been impressive imo. He definitely has some tools and you can't teach 6'5". I just think Fromm is a better QB.
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I think you mean “winning” an NC. They’ve never legit won anything worth winning at f$u
Funny thing is these same guys were on a Florida board like this back in 2002 claiming Richt was the new Bobby Bowden
This might be off topic a little, but has richt ever smiled? I swear the guy could win the lottery and he’d look like he’d just learned there was no Santa Claus
Fromm’s efficiency his freshman year is in large part because he wasn’t asked to do much. Go look at some of his stat lines that year. And that’s still the case. UGA has lost every game with Fromm where they didn’t run for 200 yards. He’s asked to manage the game and make safe throws, he’s always going to have high efficiency numbers because of it. He can’t carry an offense and has never been asked to.
Don’t know why it matters he’s better than Franks, Franks isn’t great and nobody argues Franks was better. The Bama fan was just comparing his improvement year over year.
Do you read any of the threads that aren't infested with fleas?
Franks will never be great. But I think he can get to very good. If he does, he will likely be a 1st round pick. He has the size and the cannon. From the guy who threw what, 5 interceptions in his first Spring game, to that? Mullen will be seen as a wizard. QB's will be lining up to come here.
So far he's Mike Dubose. Buncha top 5 classes and an SEC title.
Muschamp has at least shown some improvement as a coach. Kirby did worse in 2018 than he did in 2017.
And the kicker is, Muschamp isn't a great coach by any stretch of the imagination. But he has at least shown some growth and improvement as a coach.
If I see the same from Kirby, I'll have no problem acknowledging it.
Of course Fromm is the better QB. Easily.
But Franks has better QB coaching. Easily.
We didn’t rush for 200 last year against UF and beat you by 20. Im sure I could find more, I just don’t feel like upsetting you tonight.
