I always wondered if a LEO knew if you were a CCL person by running your DL. Thank you
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So the LEO's know when a lawful citizen has CCP, big deal. 🙄
Now, if they just had a way to know when an unlawful person was armed, that would be a real benefit... 🤓
As a lawful sovereign citizen, I'll be thankful when Ron signs the Constitutional Carry Law, so that I will no longer need to BUY an expensive state permit to do what I've always done, before and after FL had a CCP, always being armed....
My concern is not whether LEO's know that I have a CCP, but whether I have to pay for their privilege of them knowing,,, by me having to pay for a permit that my Constitution says I didn't need to be an armed Sovereign Citizen to begin with. 😎
Now, if they just had a way to know when an unlawful person was armed, that would be a real benefit... 🤓
As a lawful sovereign citizen, I'll be thankful when Ron signs the Constitutional Carry Law, so that I will no longer need to BUY an expensive state permit to do what I've always done, before and after FL had a CCP, always being armed....
My concern is not whether LEO's know that I have a CCP, but whether I have to pay for their privilege of them knowing,,, by me having to pay for a permit that my Constitution says I didn't need to be an armed Sovereign Citizen to begin with. 😎
Why in the world should the Republic of Florida's Sovereign Citizen have to wait/pause to see how Alabama does with their laws??? Especially when 25 other states already have Constitutional Carry and it has gone well for them.
Sorry Bama, but you've missed the boat on this one...
I'd say that LA, SCa and FL have fallen behind the rest of the SEC in doing what should have been accepted as LAW all along under the Constitution. Their God given human right to self-protection, against ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC....
The first thing that any Communist government does is dis-arm the citizens.
The 2nd is removing their freedom of speech and religion.
The 3rd is a graduated income tax to keep them financially burdened.
The 4th is controlling the vote counters to keep themselves in power.
>>> So, what goals are the Socialist/Communist Rats attempting to implement right now????
Why in the world should the Republic of Florida's Sovereign Citizen have to wait/pause to see how Alabama does with their laws??? Especially when 25 other states already have Constitutional Carry and it has gone well for them.
Sorry Bama, but you've missed the boat on this one...
I'd say that LA, SCa and FL have fallen behind the rest of the SEC in doing what should have been accepted as LAW all along under the Constitution. Their God given human right to self-protection, against ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC....
The first thing that any Communist government does is dis-arm the citizens.
The 2nd is removing their freedom of speech and religion.
The 3rd is a graduated income tax to keep them financially burdened.
The 4th is controlling the vote counters to keep themselves in power.
>>> So, what goals are the Socialist/Communist Rats attempting to implement right now????
Again, if you can purchase a gun from a licensed dealer, you are allowed a permit for $20 a year. If you're looking for a bargain, 5 years for $100. 😁
That's just my county. I'm sure most are the same in Alabama and probably most places.
The initial fee for a Florida Concealed Weapon License (all weapons, not just guns) for residents and non-residents is $102 which includes a $42 fingerprint processing fee and a $60 initial license fee.
Renewals for residents cost $50, and for non-residents is $92.
And that doesn't include the cost in both time and money for taking the REQUIRED Concealed Carry Class prior to being allowed to then buy the permit.
The average Florida concealed carry class online ranges from $40-$80.
And you will need to supply your own ammo when doing a live fire competency test.
After you've jumped through all of the hoops and paid the fees... If you are successful, your Florida concealed carry license should arrive 90 days after submission.
Dude, you need to stick to Alabama law and not worry about what Ron does (pause) in Florida,,, for the Republic of Florida's Sovereign Citizens,,, (which is where our conversation on this subject began)... 😎
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Just some general information on the Florida CWL:
It allows holders of the license to carry not only a handgun but also other weapons such as electronic weapons, tear gas guns, Billie clubs and knives.
An applicant must be at least 21 years old or a member of the military or an honorably discharged veteran and have completed a firearms training course.
Florida has a relatively strict concealed carry law as it only allows permits for concealed carry weapons (CCW) and frowns upon open carry.
The law, in this case, states that residents and non-residents in the state are allowed to practice open carry in Florida if they meet any of the following conditions:
Due to reciprocity laws between states, the Florida concealed carry permit is currently recognized in 36 additional states. This means that if you are a Florida resident, and you hold a valid concealed carry permit, you can legally carry concealed in any of the other 36 states recognizing the Florida permit.
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It allows holders of the license to carry not only a handgun but also other weapons such as electronic weapons, tear gas guns, Billie clubs and knives.
An applicant must be at least 21 years old or a member of the military or an honorably discharged veteran and have completed a firearms training course.
Florida has a relatively strict concealed carry law as it only allows permits for concealed carry weapons (CCW) and frowns upon open carry.
The law, in this case, states that residents and non-residents in the state are allowed to practice open carry in Florida if they meet any of the following conditions:
- If they are traveling to or engaged in camping
- If they are engaged in fishing
- If they are going hunting
- If they are engaged in lawful target shooting
- If they are involved in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms
Due to reciprocity laws between states, the Florida concealed carry permit is currently recognized in 36 additional states. This means that if you are a Florida resident, and you hold a valid concealed carry permit, you can legally carry concealed in any of the other 36 states recognizing the Florida permit.
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Self-Defense in FL
Florida is a Castle Doctrine state. Under Florida law, there is no duty to retreat if you are attacked in any place you have a lawful right to be. Instead, you may stand your ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, if you reasonably believe it is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm to yourself or others.No. There is no duty to inform a law enforcement officer that you're carrying a concealed firearm in Florida, unless the officer asks.
No. Your Florida driver’s license is not linked to your Florida concealed weapons license.
No. Florida does not enforce civilian "No Weapons Allowed" signs.
Florida Laws do list some places where you cannot carry.
Florida Population = 22 Million.
CCL Issued = 2.3 Million
Meaning that about 1 in 10 Florida Residents are packing.
So, walking around in a Wal-Mart, there are anywhere from 5 to 20 on average packing...
So, in all of these many years that FL has had CCL, why hasn't Florida turned into Dodge City as the Libs claimed would happen? (was just more of their usual Fake News BS)
The Records show that “concealed handgun permit holders are extremely law-abiding.” And added, “In Florida and Texas, permit holders are convicted of misdemeanors and felonies at 1/6 of the rate at which police officers are convicted.” Among police, firearms violations occur at a rate of 16.5 per 100,000 officers.
Which means on average, I have 6x's more to worry about with Bama LEO carrying a gun, than he does with me carrying a gun.... 🤓
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That's unreasonable.
What we're doing is reasonable. It literally costs $20 per year. If you qualify (meaning you can buy a gun from a licensed dealer) it literally cost $20 per year and you get your permit in about 5 to 10 minutes.
We offer a gun safety course and a marksmanship course. They're both free but it isn't required. We'll even zero your hunting rifles free of charge.
I don't need to stick to Alabama law. Florida just needed to get back to something entirely reasonable like what we offer...until 1/01/2023 at least.
Bama, this conversation began with me being glad that Ron was going to no permit Constitutional Carry, not with the price of permits in AL or in FL...
I killed that pause with the fact that that Vermont has had Constitutional Carry since 1793, will it causing zero problems. And the fact that Alaska has had it since 2003, with 23 more states that have joined them in the last 2 decades with no problems so far.
Since then you have floundered around all over the place on permits and your safety by knowing when someone has a CCL. I also put that supposed safety issue to rest. Criminals don't have permits, and those with permits are 6x's less likely to commit a crime than police officers are....
Last chance on this topic.
Florida is going to Constitutional Carry before Ron leaves office, and sooner rather than later I hope, ending me ever having to renew mine again.... I'm hoping that they don't put in a CC permit that you have to pay to get, as some states do.... Florida should be a NO PERMIT state.
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One supplement or correction. The initial cost is high in FL, but still only about 1/2 of what they originally cost when I got my first one in the late 1980's.
And my current permit is good for 7 years between renewals.
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I remember how it started insta. And you only killed it in your mind. You offered an opinion and I offered a differing opinion. That's it.
Last chance on this topic? 😂
What does that even mean? I have no problem if we disagree. People do that with one another on the reg. I do have a problem with you stating Police are just being lazy because of how you might imagine it might be when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
But you like the no permit. That's fine with me. I disagree.
Last chance was me being tired of our friendly disagreement, which seems to me like a total disconnect from the beginning.
Ron has no intention on pausing to see what Alabama does or the results of their CCL laws. --- Done.
Not all police are lazy thinkers imo, just the ones that believe that they are safer if they know if someone has a CCL or not.
I'm no more concerned with you having a problem with what you think I said or meant, than you were when your told me; "I bow to your superior skills as a LEO."
And I responded with "I also don't have to be a biologist to know what a woman is."
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And now, on to some general facts for anyone else that might be interested in the CCL topic.
Concealed Carry Permits by State:
1. Florida 2.143,213 - increased by over 300,000 since 2017
2. Texas 1.520,079 - increased by over 300,000 since 2017
When the Texas and Florida data is combined it shows that CCW permit holders are convicted of felonies and misdemeanors at a rate of 2.4 per 100,000. While among police the rate is 16.5 per 100,000 officers.
3. Penn 1.417,050 - increased by over 140,000 since 2017
4. GA 1,107,722
5. AL 1,085,404
No other states with over 1 Million CCL's
These figures do not take into account the 14 states where no permit is required:
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This is mostly directed at the Anit-Gun Nutts and the Socialist Rat gun grabbers:
Now, go check the murder rates in these stats with far less CCL's
ILL - 332,135
NY - 196,132
Cal - 120,582
NJ - 1,212
And then come back and tell where the Dodge City atmosphere is located and thriving? Those are also the states with some of the most stringent gun laws and restrictions.
CCW permit holders according to the statistics are unlikely to break the law. Remember there are over 16.3 million CCL holders in the US so any violations are very rare. In fact there are probably no other groups of people in the US who are as law abiding. If we compare concealed carry permit holders to the police we can see just how law abiding they really are. CCL 1/6 of Police charged with crimes.
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And now, back to the threads main topic, RON:
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I offered an opinion man. I still have that same opinion fwiw.
You don't even know what you think you know. That's my problem with your position. Let me say it again...
WE ASSUME THAT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, ALWAYS.
What you have completely failed to grasp here is that more people will have concealed weapons as a result of this changing law...INCLUDING PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT CURRENTLY ALLOWED TO LEGALLY CARRY CONCEALED CARRY. If you are able to buy a gun private party, you will then become someone who can legally carry...even if you cannot legally buy a gun from a gun store (someone with a FFL).
Did you hear it that time? Before they couldn't legally do it. Now they will be able to.
In your learned opinion, will we encounter more or less guns after this law takes effect?
In your learned opinion, will we encounter more or less people with guns who can't legally buy from someone with an FFL?
An example of someone who can legally own a gun but cannot legally buy a gun from an FFL...
- Someone with an open DV case
- Someone who has a restraining order (Personal Protection Order) against them
- Someone with a pending violent felony case
- Someone who has been hospitalized against their will for mental health
- Someone who is a known abuser of drugs/alcohol
- Someone who has been dishonerably discharged from the military
- Someone who is an illegal alien
- Someone who has renounced their American citizenship
I'm a Field Training Officer. I teach new LEO's how to be Deputies. I teach them how to stand when they can't see "the subject." I teach them how to stand when they can see them but they're more than 25' away from them and how to stand when they're inside that bubble and, most importantly, what their posture should be inside 6'.
I teach these men and women how to approach vehicles and how to egress away from them, EVERY TIME, even on seemingly insignificant traffic stops or calls for service. I teach them to watch hands because hands are what kill you. If these recruits don't get the above correct (and a bunch of other stuff that youve likely never considered), they don't get to be cops. Period.
But please, intimate that I'm a lazy cop again because I think knowing who is legally carrying is a good idea. What a dickish thing to say, really. Moreover, that's not even my main objection. Read below.
Finally, you made the point that people who have permits to carry concealed rarely commit crimes...and that is true. This new law let's an entirely new group carry and they don't necessarily fall into this same category.
Whether you agree or not, this law makes life for a cop more dangerous. You can disagree if you like...but you are flat out wrong and you don't even have the knowledge necessary to know why you're wrong even if you think you do.
Excellent point...so why in the blue hell do you want to get rid of concealed carry permits? It's working. These people carry legally AND they don't break the law.
You want to add an entire new group to that group that aren't necessarily law abiding.
Look, I know I'm wasting my time. I've seen you argue with others and your mind is never changed...even if you know that you are wrong. You're the guy who has never been wrong on a message board. Congratulations.
Bama, Vermont since 1793. -- Alaska since 2005. -- and 23 more states since 2005....
I won't waste any more of my time, trying to explain what that means, to someone that already knows it all... 🤓
I won't waste any more of my time, trying to explain what that means, to someone that already knows it all... 🤓
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If you still have your pic taken with a mask on, you're a retard.
Nancy Pelosi just donated $10,000 to defeat Governor DeSantis this November. This is only the beginning of the support liberals in Washington will throw behind the Democrat Machine in Florida to defeat Governor DeSantis.
The mob-mom just wasted $10,000 because it's going to be Ron by an avalanch, and Florida has election laws that will prevent the Rat election steal....
From Ron: Florida's gubernatorial election is 159 days away. With the Biden administration continuing to whittle away at our freedoms day after day, it can feel excruciating to have to wait so long to make our voices heard.
We cannot allow the Biden administration's failed policies to be imported into Florida. Below are two actionable steps you can take right now to stand with Governor DeSantis and show your support for his freedom first agenda:
1. Donate to Ron's campaign.
2. Get to the polls and vote.
The mob-mom just wasted $10,000 because it's going to be Ron by an avalanch, and Florida has election laws that will prevent the Rat election steal....
From Ron: Florida's gubernatorial election is 159 days away. With the Biden administration continuing to whittle away at our freedoms day after day, it can feel excruciating to have to wait so long to make our voices heard.
We cannot allow the Biden administration's failed policies to be imported into Florida. Below are two actionable steps you can take right now to stand with Governor DeSantis and show your support for his freedom first agenda:
1. Donate to Ron's campaign.
2. Get to the polls and vote.
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Report: DeSantis to Veto $35 Million for Tampa Bay Rays Facility After Team's Anti-Gun Rant
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) reportedly plans to veto a bill earmarking $35 million for a Tampa Bay Rays facility.
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Governor DeSantis rejects false narratives propagated by the Left every single day. In this week’s mic drop moment, the Governor blasts Brandon directly for his abysmal performance. Watch here.
“Your rights or your freedoms should not be circumscribed by your decision to take or not take a COVID vaccine.” – Governor Ron DeSantis
On Thursday, Governor DeSantis signed the state’s Freedom First Budget for the Fiscal Year 2022-2023. The budget prioritizes the freedoms of Floridians to live, work, and have successful businesses in the state. The budget totals $109.9 billion and includes a record $1.24 billion in tax relief for Floridians.
On June 1st, Governor DeSantis announced more than $3 million in awards to military communities in Florida. These newly established programs grant funding to defense-dependent communities to support economic diversification efforts, local infrastructure projects, and military community relations.
“I am proud to continue making investments in Florida’s military communities and upholding my administration’s commitment to keeping Florida the most military-friendly state in the nation. In Florida, we value those who protect and serve our nation and the sacrifices that their families make. That is why we work to provide tangible support that enhances the lives and communities of service members for generations to come.” – Governor Ron DeSantis
Governor DeSantis rejects false narratives propagated by the Left every single day. In this week’s mic drop moment, the Governor blasts Brandon directly for his abysmal performance. Watch here.
Fellow Patriots,
You hear all the time there is a lot on the line in November, but I’ll keep it simple. This election boils down to one thing: freedom.
While other states were locking people down, Florida was lifting people up. In Florida, during the pandemic, we had a Governor who held the line and stood strong in defense of the rights of the people.
Floridians kept their right to earn a living, to breathe, to send their kids to school, and to see their loved ones, all without fear of government lockdowns or mandates.
Because Florida stood strong and led, the rest of the nation had an example to follow.
Florida has, and still does, represent the shining light on the hill to the world. It confirmed that the idea of America is still alive and well.
So, this November, when you vote…
You’re voting for freedom.
You’re voting because you believe your rights emanate from God, not government.
You’re voting for education, not indoctrination.
You’re voting for parents’ rights.
You’re voting for the rule of law.
And you’re voting to tell corporate media to take a hike!
If we turn out this election the way I know we can, we will continue to KEEP FLORIDA FREE! Are you with us? Pledge your support NOW!
Sincerely,
Casey DeSantis
You hear all the time there is a lot on the line in November, but I’ll keep it simple. This election boils down to one thing: freedom.
While other states were locking people down, Florida was lifting people up. In Florida, during the pandemic, we had a Governor who held the line and stood strong in defense of the rights of the people.
Floridians kept their right to earn a living, to breathe, to send their kids to school, and to see their loved ones, all without fear of government lockdowns or mandates.
Because Florida stood strong and led, the rest of the nation had an example to follow.
Florida has, and still does, represent the shining light on the hill to the world. It confirmed that the idea of America is still alive and well.
So, this November, when you vote…
You’re voting for freedom.
You’re voting because you believe your rights emanate from God, not government.
You’re voting for education, not indoctrination.
You’re voting for parents’ rights.
You’re voting for the rule of law.
And you’re voting to tell corporate media to take a hike!
If we turn out this election the way I know we can, we will continue to KEEP FLORIDA FREE! Are you with us? Pledge your support NOW!
Sincerely,
Casey DeSantis
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Florida’s mamas are the backbone of our families and communities. They are on the forefront of fighting for their families’ well-being, safety, and prosperity. Thankfully, in Florida, we have a pro-family leader who understands this.
My husband, Governor Ron DeSantis, is the most pro-family Governor in America. He has spent the past three and a half years enacting policies and leading our state with Florida families in mind.
Unfortunately, poor policies emanating from Washington present a direct threat to the well-being of families. This is exemplified by the baby formula shortage, high gas prices, unsafe communities, attacks on our education system, and mounting inflation that rivals the Carter years.
That is why we are launching the Mamas for DeSantis initiative. We are creating the largest movement in Florida history to mobilize a million moms committed to re-electing Governor DeSantis. You know this as well as I do, mamas are a force to be reckoned with. When outside factors threaten our families’ safety or well-being, mamas fight back.
This army of moms know that Governor DeSantis has their back and is fighting every day for the future of their families. Join Mamas for DeSantis as we fight to Keep Florida Free for generations to come!
Visit MamasForDeSantis.com and see how you can get involved and be part of our million Mamas on a Mission.
Sincerely,
Casey DeSantis
My husband, Governor Ron DeSantis, is the most pro-family Governor in America. He has spent the past three and a half years enacting policies and leading our state with Florida families in mind.
Unfortunately, poor policies emanating from Washington present a direct threat to the well-being of families. This is exemplified by the baby formula shortage, high gas prices, unsafe communities, attacks on our education system, and mounting inflation that rivals the Carter years.
That is why we are launching the Mamas for DeSantis initiative. We are creating the largest movement in Florida history to mobilize a million moms committed to re-electing Governor DeSantis. You know this as well as I do, mamas are a force to be reckoned with. When outside factors threaten our families’ safety or well-being, mamas fight back.
This army of moms know that Governor DeSantis has their back and is fighting every day for the future of their families. Join Mamas for DeSantis as we fight to Keep Florida Free for generations to come!
Visit MamasForDeSantis.com and see how you can get involved and be part of our million Mamas on a Mission.
Sincerely,
Casey DeSantis
Governor Ron DeSantis is the most pro-freedom Governor in America. Under his leadership, Florida has become THE freest state in the United States.
Despite relentless attacks from the Biden administration and their smear merchant allies in the legacy media, Governor DeSantis has never wavered in his fight to Keep Florida Free.
When kids were forced into virtual learning, Governor DeSantis ensured Florida students were in school, in-person, five days a week.
When businesses were forced to shutter their doors, Governor DeSantis ensured Florida businesses were allowed to freely operate so employees could support their families.
When churches were banned from meeting, Governor DeSantis ensured Florida churches were open at a time when people needed them most.
Through it all, Governor DeSantis has preserved freedom in Florida.
This has made him the radical Left’s #1 target this November. They seek power and control over your life, but they know Governor DeSantis is standing in their way.
He will never give up the fight to ensure that future generations of Floridians get to enjoy the freedom he has worked to protect.
Despite relentless attacks from the Biden administration and their smear merchant allies in the legacy media, Governor DeSantis has never wavered in his fight to Keep Florida Free.
When kids were forced into virtual learning, Governor DeSantis ensured Florida students were in school, in-person, five days a week.
When businesses were forced to shutter their doors, Governor DeSantis ensured Florida businesses were allowed to freely operate so employees could support their families.
When churches were banned from meeting, Governor DeSantis ensured Florida churches were open at a time when people needed them most.
Through it all, Governor DeSantis has preserved freedom in Florida.
This has made him the radical Left’s #1 target this November. They seek power and control over your life, but they know Governor DeSantis is standing in their way.
He will never give up the fight to ensure that future generations of Floridians get to enjoy the freedom he has worked to protect.
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See how you can get involved with Mamas for DeSantis by visiting MamasForDeSantis.com.
Starting July 1, Floridians will enjoy “Freedom Week” thanks to the leadership of America's Governor. Freedom Week will serve as a sales tax holiday to provide tax breaks on a wide range of recreational activities and outdoor gear, just in time for summer!
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DeSantis and the republicunts don't believe in freedom of speech or small government
https://www.yahoo.com/news/desantis-stop-woke-act-faces-100107897.html
DeSantis’ ‘Stop WOKE Act’ faces court test as universities become targets. At issue: free speech
TALLAHASSEE – Gov. Ron DeSantis’ “Stop WOKE Act” is facing its first federal court test after weeks of being celebrated by the political right for restricting race-based teaching and training in schools, universities and workplaces.
But not all conservatives are lined up behind the Republican governor.
A civil liberties organization, which has sided with Florida Republicans in the past on campus speech issues, is among those now condemning DeSantis’ approach.
“It’s intended to chill speech,” said Adam Steinbaugh, an attorney with the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE). “The entire point of the new law is to set out certain categories or concepts that the state disdains and says you can’t introduce.”
Much of the debate over “Stop WOKE” has centered on public schools and businesses.
But the law may be the most significant among several measures DeSantis signed that put his imprint on higher education in Florida, not only restricting speech but also adding new limits on tenure for Florida professors and changes to how public colleges and universities are accredited.
Draft legislation shaped by the governor’s office also suggests that DeSantis may want even more control over faculty hiring at colleges and universities if he wins reelection in November, heightening anxiety in Florida and across the nation’s higher ed community.
“People in hiring positions are telling us they’re hearing from professors in other states who question, ‘What’s the political environment like on your campus?’” said Andrew Gothard, president of the United Faculty of Florida, a union representing 25,000 members across the state.
“They’re wondering if government is going to keep them from doing their jobs or research. Clearly, based on these kinds of questions, there’s a narrative and concerns about working in Florida,” Gothard said.
While Stop Woke may be the latest battleground, the nonprofit FIRE has fought restrictions on campus speech in Florida before. But then it was with the support of conservatives.
That measure gained added focus because it was seen as opening more campuses to the political right. It emerged shortly after protests rocked the University of Florida ahead of a speech by white nationalist Richard Spencer, a leader of 2017’s neo-Nazi torchlight parade in Charlottesville, Va.
FIRE, though, has broken with Florida Republicans over “Stop WOKE” because, Steinbaugh said, it hammers speech suppression into Florida law.
“For conservatives who think this is a good idea and that maybe these topics or concepts should be verboten in higher education, I’d say, consider what a legislature in a left-leaning state might do with the authority to say which subjects are true or false, or can or can’t be discussed,” Steinbaugh said. “It’s a Pandora’s box that you don’t want to open.”
FIRE is asking Florida universities to narrowly interpret the new law, set to take effect July 1. It also has reached out to faculty members possibly ahead of a lawsuit if educators feel their ability to discuss areas of expertise is limited by the new speech restrictions.
Plaintiffs include a pair of high school teachers, a professor at the University of Central Florida, and a soon-to-be kindergartner from Nassau County. They’re asking Walker to stop the law from going into effect. FIRE is not among the plaintiffs.
Along with violating free speech rights guaranteed under the U.S. constitution, the lawsuit claims the Stop Woke law gives the state power to “arbitrarily decide what speech is prohibited and what speech is permitted.”
“As such, plaintiffs have every reason to believe that these vague standards can and will be used to silence speech on these topics with which Florida’s GOP politicians disagree,” the lawsuit said.
Attorneys for DeSantis and Attorney General Ashley Moody have countered by arguing that First Amendment issues are not at play. Instead, “public school curriculum set by elected officials is government speech,” that earlier court decisions have said can be regulated.
“The in-class instruction offered by state-employed educators is also pure government speech, not the speech of the educators themselves,” the state argues in defending the law.
It also blocks businesses from using diversity practices or training that could make employees feel guilty for similar reasons. Anyone offended could sue an institution or individual, arguing their civil rights were violated by being made subject to such instruction.
Universities also could lose state funding.
Speaking at a charter school in Hialeah Gardens when he signed the law in April, DeSantis condemned “pernicious ideologies” like critical race theory, which examines the role racial discrimination has played in shaping American history and modern society.
He also blistered the media, “elites,” “leftists” and Stacey Abrams, the Democratic candidate for governor in Georgia.
While the measure earned its nickname when DeSantis termed it the “Stop the Wrongs to Our Kids and Employees Act,” the Legislature settled on a simpler title, calling it the “Individual Freedom Act.”
“In Florida, we will not let the far-left woke agenda take over our schools and workplaces,” DeSantis said. “There is no place for indoctrination or discrimination in Florida.”
DeSantis clearly views higher education as a big target for change.
United Faculty of Florida has already sued the governor over “intellectual freedom” surveys being distributed to faculty, students and employees at colleges and universities that the union sees
aimed at stifling open discussions on campuses.
The annual surveys, approved under a law last year, are to be analyzed by university and college leaders in a report scheduled to be released in September.
This year, DeSantis signed new legislation that could make it more difficult for faculty to retain tenure, which has been a standard at universities since the 1940s. Tenure was enacted to blunt political interference and give faculty freedom to discuss and research controversial topics without fear of dismissal.
But DeSantis has condemned what he termed “lifetime appointments” for professors, adding he wants to “make sure the faculty are held accountable.”
That provision was viewed by critics as retaliation by DeSantis after the current agency used by most schools criticized the University of Florida for attempting to deny two professors from testifying as expert witnesses in a voting rights lawsuit.
The agency also cautioned Florida State University during its presidential search when the governor’s former Education Commissioner, Richard Corcoran, was an applicant.
Yet even with these changes, DeSantis appears to want more.
A 70-page proposal drafted by Republican lawmakers at the governor’s request and obtained by the news site, Seeking Rents, outlined plans for giving university boards of trustees – heavily influenced by DeSantis – faculty-hiring authority, taking it away from school presidents.
Similarly, the proposal would give the university system’s Board of Governors, whose members are mostly governor appointees, power to investigate university presidents, fire employees, review existing degree programs and veto budgets.
The measure never made it past the concept stage. But many think it shows what may be in store for colleges and universities in a DeSantis second term.
“We’re at a tipping point right now,” said Gothard of United Faculty. “We have a Legislature and a governor who are taking their time to attack groups and individuals who disagree with their political ideology.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/desantis-stop-woke-act-faces-100107897.html
DeSantis’ ‘Stop WOKE Act’ faces court test as universities become targets. At issue: free speech
TALLAHASSEE – Gov. Ron DeSantis’ “Stop WOKE Act” is facing its first federal court test after weeks of being celebrated by the political right for restricting race-based teaching and training in schools, universities and workplaces.
But not all conservatives are lined up behind the Republican governor.
A civil liberties organization, which has sided with Florida Republicans in the past on campus speech issues, is among those now condemning DeSantis’ approach.
“It’s intended to chill speech,” said Adam Steinbaugh, an attorney with the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE). “The entire point of the new law is to set out certain categories or concepts that the state disdains and says you can’t introduce.”
Much of the debate over “Stop WOKE” has centered on public schools and businesses.
But the law may be the most significant among several measures DeSantis signed that put his imprint on higher education in Florida, not only restricting speech but also adding new limits on tenure for Florida professors and changes to how public colleges and universities are accredited.
Draft legislation shaped by the governor’s office also suggests that DeSantis may want even more control over faculty hiring at colleges and universities if he wins reelection in November, heightening anxiety in Florida and across the nation’s higher ed community.
“People in hiring positions are telling us they’re hearing from professors in other states who question, ‘What’s the political environment like on your campus?’” said Andrew Gothard, president of the United Faculty of Florida, a union representing 25,000 members across the state.
“They’re wondering if government is going to keep them from doing their jobs or research. Clearly, based on these kinds of questions, there’s a narrative and concerns about working in Florida,” Gothard said.
While Stop Woke may be the latest battleground, the nonprofit FIRE has fought restrictions on campus speech in Florida before. But then it was with the support of conservatives.
Conservatives once hailed free speech
FIRE, which receives funding from several conservative foundations, supported a 2018 law signed by then-Republican Gov. Rick Scott intended to eliminate “free speech zones” on Florida campuses, a move hailed by conservative lawmakers who felt these zones were being used to quarantine right-leaning speakers.That measure gained added focus because it was seen as opening more campuses to the political right. It emerged shortly after protests rocked the University of Florida ahead of a speech by white nationalist Richard Spencer, a leader of 2017’s neo-Nazi torchlight parade in Charlottesville, Va.
FIRE, though, has broken with Florida Republicans over “Stop WOKE” because, Steinbaugh said, it hammers speech suppression into Florida law.
“For conservatives who think this is a good idea and that maybe these topics or concepts should be verboten in higher education, I’d say, consider what a legislature in a left-leaning state might do with the authority to say which subjects are true or false, or can or can’t be discussed,” Steinbaugh said. “It’s a Pandora’s box that you don’t want to open.”
FIRE is asking Florida universities to narrowly interpret the new law, set to take effect July 1. It also has reached out to faculty members possibly ahead of a lawsuit if educators feel their ability to discuss areas of expertise is limited by the new speech restrictions.
Lawsuit pinned to First Amendment
But a federal lawsuit seeking to overturn the measure is already slated for its first hearing Tuesday before U.S. District Judge Mark Walker in Tallahassee. The challenge was filed by the Jacksonville firm of Sheppard, White, Kachergus, DeMaggio & Wilkison, known for its civil rights work.Plaintiffs include a pair of high school teachers, a professor at the University of Central Florida, and a soon-to-be kindergartner from Nassau County. They’re asking Walker to stop the law from going into effect. FIRE is not among the plaintiffs.
Along with violating free speech rights guaranteed under the U.S. constitution, the lawsuit claims the Stop Woke law gives the state power to “arbitrarily decide what speech is prohibited and what speech is permitted.”
“As such, plaintiffs have every reason to believe that these vague standards can and will be used to silence speech on these topics with which Florida’s GOP politicians disagree,” the lawsuit said.
Attorneys for DeSantis and Attorney General Ashley Moody have countered by arguing that First Amendment issues are not at play. Instead, “public school curriculum set by elected officials is government speech,” that earlier court decisions have said can be regulated.
“The in-class instruction offered by state-employed educators is also pure government speech, not the speech of the educators themselves,” the state argues in defending the law.
What ‘Stop WOKE’ restricts
“Stop WOKE” was approved in March, mostly along party-lines in the Republican-led Legislature. It prohibits any teaching that could make students feel they bear personal responsibility for historic wrongs because of their race, color, sex or national origin.It also blocks businesses from using diversity practices or training that could make employees feel guilty for similar reasons. Anyone offended could sue an institution or individual, arguing their civil rights were violated by being made subject to such instruction.
Universities also could lose state funding.
Speaking at a charter school in Hialeah Gardens when he signed the law in April, DeSantis condemned “pernicious ideologies” like critical race theory, which examines the role racial discrimination has played in shaping American history and modern society.
He also blistered the media, “elites,” “leftists” and Stacey Abrams, the Democratic candidate for governor in Georgia.
While the measure earned its nickname when DeSantis termed it the “Stop the Wrongs to Our Kids and Employees Act,” the Legislature settled on a simpler title, calling it the “Individual Freedom Act.”
DeSantis picks his targets
DeSantis, though, embraced the attack on “woke,” which found its place in his policy agenda that included a move to strip Disney World of its special tax district because of its parent company’s opposition to another priority of the governor, the parental rights legislation opponents branded “Don’t Say Gay.”“In Florida, we will not let the far-left woke agenda take over our schools and workplaces,” DeSantis said. “There is no place for indoctrination or discrimination in Florida.”
DeSantis clearly views higher education as a big target for change.
United Faculty of Florida has already sued the governor over “intellectual freedom” surveys being distributed to faculty, students and employees at colleges and universities that the union sees
aimed at stifling open discussions on campuses.
The annual surveys, approved under a law last year, are to be analyzed by university and college leaders in a report scheduled to be released in September.
This year, DeSantis signed new legislation that could make it more difficult for faculty to retain tenure, which has been a standard at universities since the 1940s. Tenure was enacted to blunt political interference and give faculty freedom to discuss and research controversial topics without fear of dismissal.
But DeSantis has condemned what he termed “lifetime appointments” for professors, adding he wants to “make sure the faculty are held accountable.”
Critics say political payback at play
The law also requires universities to periodically change accreditation agencies every five to 10 years.That provision was viewed by critics as retaliation by DeSantis after the current agency used by most schools criticized the University of Florida for attempting to deny two professors from testifying as expert witnesses in a voting rights lawsuit.
The agency also cautioned Florida State University during its presidential search when the governor’s former Education Commissioner, Richard Corcoran, was an applicant.
Yet even with these changes, DeSantis appears to want more.
A 70-page proposal drafted by Republican lawmakers at the governor’s request and obtained by the news site, Seeking Rents, outlined plans for giving university boards of trustees – heavily influenced by DeSantis – faculty-hiring authority, taking it away from school presidents.
Similarly, the proposal would give the university system’s Board of Governors, whose members are mostly governor appointees, power to investigate university presidents, fire employees, review existing degree programs and veto budgets.
The measure never made it past the concept stage. But many think it shows what may be in store for colleges and universities in a DeSantis second term.
“We’re at a tipping point right now,” said Gothard of United Faculty. “We have a Legislature and a governor who are taking their time to attack groups and individuals who disagree with their political ideology.”
“We’re at a tipping point right now,” said Gothard of United Faculty. “We have a Legislature and a governor who are taking their time to attack groups and individuals who disagree with their political ideology.”
😂 🤣 😂 😂 🤣 😂 😂 🤣 😂
The Socialist NEA traitors, and especially the tenured (incompetent) professors at the Socialist-U's, really hate it when their own long time tactics are turned around and used against them.
I'll be happy to just leave it to the Sovereign Citizens of Florida to decide who they want in Tallahassee to represent their desires, needs, and goals.
“In Florida, we will not let the far-left woke agenda take over our schools and workplaces,” DeSantis said. “There is no place for indoctrination or discrimination in Florida.”
😂 🤣 😂 😂 🤣 😂 😂 🤣 😂
The Socialist NEA traitors, and especially the tenured (incompetent) professors at the Socialist-U's, really hate it when their own long time tactics are turned around and used against them.
I'll be happy to just leave it to the Sovereign Citizens of Florida to decide who they want in Tallahassee to represent their desires, needs, and goals.
“In Florida, we will not let the far-left woke agenda take over our schools and workplaces,” DeSantis said. “There is no place for indoctrination or discrimination in Florida.”
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