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With the offense you guys have put on the field the last few years you know you don't really believe what you are saying!

Ah yes. Because Jimbo the QB Whisperer would have turned Driskel and Treon into first round picks.
 
Like him or not, FSU has prospered with coach Fisher at the helm. I wouldn't expect a single UF fan to proclaim they'd like to have an FSU coach running their team. If Fisher had UGA ties instead, it might be different.
 
Like him or not, FSU has prospered with coach Fisher at the helm. I wouldn't expect a single UF fan to proclaim they'd like to have an FSU coach running their team. If Fisher had UGA ties instead, it might be different.

I would be ok with Muschamp and McElwain as position coaches! Head coach? Not so much!
 
Danny, he wouldn't have had to. He would have recruited better for that spot.

LMAO at 93.
 
I just think Jimbo is a Richt.

And if Richt does well in the ACC then that confirms it for me.

I just don't personally believe Jimbo would have the same success at Florida that he does FSU.

Go ahead and misconstrue that

Richt was a good coach though. Especially at the start of his tenure. The only reason he doesn't have a NC or two is bad luck and the fact that he had to beat Saban in the SEC Championship game.
 
Like him or not, FSU has prospered with coach Fisher at the helm. I wouldn't expect a single UF fan to proclaim they'd like to have an FSU coach running their team. If Fisher had UGA ties instead, it might be different.

Doubt that has anything to do with it. I would have taken Bowden at UF in a heartbeat. If FSU had a guy like Peterson or Kelly or Patterson I'd want them at UF too. Jimbo recruits better than all but 1 school in the country. Do you think his results have been consistent with that?

Jimbo summed up to me is:

- excellent recruiter
- great eye for talent
- mediocre OC
- mediocre game day coach

But when you have the level of talent FSU has #3 or #4 doesn't matter as much. But #3 or #4 is also why FSU seemingly manages to lose to a team they have no business losing to more times than not.
 
Doubt that has anything to do with it. I would have taken Bowden at UF in a heartbeat. If FSU had a guy like Peterson or Kelly or Patterson I'd want them at UF too. Jimbo recruits better than all but 1 school in the country. Do you think his results have been consistent with that?

Jimbo summed up to me is:

- excellent recruiter
- great eye for talent
- mediocre OC
- mediocre game day coach

But when you have the level of talent FSU has #3 or #4 doesn't matter as much. But #3 or #4 is also why FSU seemingly manages to lose to a team they have no business losing to more times than not.

You may be right about 3 and 4. He is still a young head coach however and he may get better there. I would say that if he can win another NC in the next 3-4 years 3 and 4 don't matter as you said. Only time will tell. But honestly I have had "head scratching" moments with his play calling at times. But what do I know!?!?
 
oozie, I respect your thoughts as a former player and as a poster. That said if Nick Saban thinks Jimbo is the best OC he has ever had I think that equates to better than mediocre. I am sure there are better out there but that is pretty high praise coming from a guy who knows a thing or two about football. Jimbo is 5 years in as a HC. I think he has room for improvement but he is a top 5-7 guy to have running your team in college imo.
 
Doubt that has anything to do with it. I would have taken Bowden at UF in a heartbeat. If FSU had a guy like Peterson or Kelly or Patterson I'd want them at UF too. Jimbo recruits better than all but 1 school in the country. Do you think his results have been consistent with that?

Jimbo summed up to me is:

- excellent recruiter
- great eye for talent
- mediocre OC
- mediocre game day coach

But when you have the level of talent FSU has #3 or #4 doesn't matter as much. But #3 or #4 is also why FSU seemingly manages to lose to a team they have no business losing to more times than not.

- excellent recruiter - Agree
- great eye for talent - Agree
- mediocre OC - Don't know.
- mediocre game day coach - AGREE!!!

I don't see Jimbo as the type of coach that would bring a Cinderella team into the post season like a Marshall, Houston, NIU, etc. At least not without a stellar staff (like what Dabo has).
 
I would be ok with Muschamp and McElwain as position coaches! Head coach? Not so much!
I would not be OK with Fisher as a position coach. Saban's quote aside, his stints as OC at LSU and FSU were not all that great.

He does have a good track record at recruiting. And two of his average QBs he turned into first round picks that faltered in the NFL
 
Leave it to the media to manipulate quotes to get clicks:

TITLE: Nick Saban on Jimbo Fisher: "Best OC I've Ever Had"

QUOTE: “I've been begging the offensive coordinators around here to open it up since I've been here,” Saban said. “Jimbo Fisher was the best offensive coordinator I've ever had that ever did what I wanted to do."

LINK: http://247sports.com/Bolt/Nick-Saban-on-Jimbo-Fisher-Best-OC-Ive-Ever-Had-31436611

The bolded part is the operative phrase. There is a difference than presenting it without that part.
 
So would he have been better had he done what Saban didn't want him to do? Seems fairly cut and dry to me.
 
You are obsessed with us so you live here??? That is kinda weird.. Cho btch ass up and get back out West bum
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Jimbo summed up to me is:

- excellent recruiter
- great eye for talent
- mediocre OC
- mediocre game day coach

But when you have the level of talent FSU has #3 or #4 doesn't matter as much. But #3 or #4 is also why FSU seemingly manages to lose to a team they have no business losing to more times than not.
This has also been my take on him for some long time.
 
He's barely beaten quite a few vastly inferior teams and had to go into overtime for a win over FAU. I think that means "yet".
Barely beating a team is still beating them, is it not?

If barely beating a team cannot be counted as winning, let me know please. We then can reviews some close wins by both Florida and FSU
 
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