In before the gun confiscation NUTS.....
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Oh, right.....ignoring criminals. That's one of my favorite gun nut strawmen.
It's an excellent troll, I cannot fault your efforts. I don't quite understand the enjoyment but it's an excellent troll all the same.
I wasn't speaking about the department, I was speaking specifically about revenue for government.
I don't have the experience you do as a sworn law enforcement officer in an average town in Alabama, only as a reserve deputy in a shared jurisdiction in a large metropolitan area in South Florida.
Do they still use the phrase "9 you're fine, 10 you're mine" and generally speaking is the flow of traffic generally slightly higher than the posted speed limit?
My point was that we could have much more severe penalties for speeding, but the system in place works as a deterrent and a source of income for local government. See any number of small towns in Florida for reference, the most famous being the town of Waldo.
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I know you know, Deputy, and I do as well. I was asking Theo, and I was planning on asking if he knew the origin of the Bill of rights. My apologies for not addressing him directly.
Does AAA still have the warning billboards about Waldo and Lawtey on 301? 😂 Waldo was so bad that the county dissolved their city police department. 😂
Not only that, it was the officers that were responsible for bringing it down themselves.
I didn't realize they have billboards for Lawtey, I specifically don't go farther north than Starke on 301.
Best route for a trip from Jax to Gainesville used to be 121 from I10. But maybe not so much anymore since they build the bypass around Starke. That cuts off about 20 minutes easily now. And I hate that road from Macclenny to Lake Butler. Two lanes of butt numbing desolation and too many 18 wheelers blocking progress.
Each state is different but here, for example, a State Trooper can raise money for the state. Not the State Trooper's mind you, but the state itself.
Local police can (and some do) add certain fees to traffic tickets that will benefit their local government. However even that has been curtailed as a local government can only raise a certain % of its revenue through such means. I can't remember the specific number but for some reason I'm wanting to say 4%.
Sorry, I'll stop banging my oars. 😆😉
Interesting (to me at least), in Finland they have a system called "Day-Fine." Under that system, your income is the key determining factor when deciding what your speeding fine will be. Other European countries have adopted their system.
Andres Wiklöf received a €121,000 ($129,544) for going 50 mph in a 30. The record is in Switzerland where someone got a $1,091,340 fine for driving 105 mph over the speed limit.
Freaking yikes.
I think the billboards have been gone for a few years. I'd love to know how many speed limit changes there are between I10 and Waldo.
Not sure. I hate even going "around" Starke. Starke actually isn't the problem with speed traps, it's always been Lawtey and Waldo. At Lawtey, there are about 4 speed limit changes within a football field entering and leaving town. What's amazing, Lawtey has the entering and leaving sign painted on both sides of the sign. 😂
Lawtey should have a sign and motto on a billboard, "Wecome to Lawtey! We want you suffer through!" 😂
Back in the late 80's, I made some frequent trips from Jax to Gainesville on the weekends to visit friends. Of course, I only went there to party, but on one weekend I got a speeding ticket in Starke not once but twice going to and from Gainesville. Both times I got pulled over I was ticketed for going one mile over the speed limit, twice.
Hey are you guys talking trips to campus to watch the Gators? Slow down, let's give @BSC911 a chance to join in with his stories...
Murder for no good reason is still illegal half nickel. Hasn't stopped that either.
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I doubt it, seriously. Even if we cover enough years, still no one would remember BSC. Sort of like Obama's classmates at Harvard.
If BSC actually went to UF in the late 80's as he claims he did, and was on the track and field team, then there's a chance I may have encountered BSC on one of my many visits there as I was a teammate(at Forrest high school) of his teammate at UF. Another member of the track team at UF was also someone who I competed against in high school in the 400 meters numerous times from 1985-1987.
I've never encountered an abortion nut but I'd imagine they'd say something like "abortion doesn't hurt anyone".
I rather doubt that. They make ugly references to the unborn like "parasite."
I live in Middleburg and thankfully you can detour completely around Starke now.
We come thru there but go by Camp Blanding which dumps us right into Starke. How do you go?
It's pretty obvious he's never set foot on UF campus. @Mdfgator drives a Tesla, owns multiple homes in multiple states, a plantation in the Bahamas, a boat called Big Suck, but has never once even hinted at what campus life was like.
Tougher to BS on that experience to people here who actually lived it.
I do?? man, not only can you choose your sex, you can make me filthy rich!! The gender non binary have all the fun!!!
There's a cut road past 16 that dumps into Hampton, I can't remember the number I drive it by reflex now I'll look it up and edit this post.
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My apologies when we aren't visiting Hampton, we go around all that mess by going straight down 21 to Melrose and then take 26 into Hogtown.
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And you should say, "I support making it harder for law abiding citizens to obtain firearms while criminals get whatever they want, whenever they want...regardless of how many innocent people get hurt".
The 2A is the single amendment that secures all others...
You're so blinded by your gun worship you don't recognize anything I've ever said about criminals.
Let's say the dems were able to repeal the 2nd amendment, how would that change your position on guns?
Or they change the language to hide the fact that they're ending a life.
"hands off my body" / "my body my choice" = well who gets to say that for the unborn baby inside of you?
"reproductive care" = Abortion is actually the opposite of care, and the reproducing has already happened...it's the same as cutting off a penis and calling it "gender affirming care"
My opinion on guns (and the role they served in founding the country) would not change, but my opinions about liberals would be reinforced.
I'd also peacefully comply with whatever law changes occurred.
And I know how scared you are of guns, but I can promise you an America without a 2A would be much, much scarier.
Yep....
One of us keeps repeating the same ridiculous straw men and lame arguments over and over...the other is "blinded" by their position.
The bottom line is you can be a hardo on criminals all you want - there are more guns than citizens in the US. Unless you have some grand plan to confiscate them all, a ton of innocent people will be unable to protect themselves while your new restrictive laws are enacted.
But at least you won't be so scared, and that's what counts the most, right?
Unable to protect themselves? Where are you getting that from? Have I ever said I wanted to totally disarm law abiding citizens?
No.
You want to make it harder to buy fewer and less powerful firearms. You want to be harder on criminals who commit crimes with guns (and get caught).
But you have always failed to deal with the fact that there are over 300MM guns in circulation. You know there’s no way to do anything about it, so you talk around the edges and ask stupid hypothetical questions over and over.
You really have no actual plan, other than you hate guns and they scare you.
