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In before the gun confiscation NUTS.....

So, 'nanny state' applies to laws we don't like.

We're all fans of the 'nanny state'....we just apply it to different laws.

Are those fair statements?

No. Those are incredibly stupid statements. There's no way you got those stupid ideas from the words in my post.
 
No. Those are incredibly stupid statements. There's no way you got those stupid ideas from the words in my post.
Seems to me, the laws you like are OK. The laws you don't like are part of 'nanny state'.

Isn't that correct?
 
Seems to me, the laws you like are OK. The laws you don't like are part of 'nanny state'.

Isn't that correct?

If that's the way it "seems to you" then I've given you far too much credit since we began conversing. That's disappointing.

To answer your question directly, no.
 
I like Theo, but he's dying on the wrong anthill. Society is evil, and you can't legislate inanimate objects to behave differently. Guns have zero effs to give, they just do what they are instructed to do.
 
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I like Theo, but he's dying on the wrong anthill. Society is evil, and you can't legislate inanimate objects to behave differently. Guns have zero effs to give, they just do what they are instructed to do.
Itolerate him...he has too much democrat in him to like him. I would probably have cocktails with hom, though!
 
Seems to me, the laws you like are OK. The laws you don't like are part of 'nanny state'.

Isn't that correct?
Laws that take away inherent rights ARE nanny state. I would be seriously conflicted about abortion laws if it wasn't related to murder.
 
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What does that have to do with anything?
I thought you said the NRA was behind all this? You said the NRA wants everyone buying all these guns, but then these NRA members are never using them in shootings???

Sounds like that blows up your entire argument.
 
I thought you said the NRA was behind all this? You said the NRA wants everyone buying all these guns, but then these NRA members are never using them in shootings???

Sounds like that blows up your entire argument.
The NRA is just the mouthpiece of the gun industry.

Whether NRA members are committing gun crimes isn't relative. I would imagine they aren't heavily involved in gun crime but that doesn't change anything about gun crime.
 
The NRA is just the mouthpiece of the gun industry.

Whether NRA members are committing gun crimes isn't relative. I would imagine they aren't heavily involved in gun crime but that doesn't change anything about gun crime.
Well those goalposts moved quite nicely! Who is 'the gun industry'? Are they in the room with us right now?
 
That's a decent point. I keep you guys fired up to defend their products. That's gotta be worth something.
No, you fire us up to BUY their products. Well not me, but @Capt Ron 1 buys enough for both of us. Gotta love Constitutional rights!

The amazing part to me is you honestly believe the left and the gun industry are on opposite sides of this issue LMAO!
 
No, you fire us up to BUY their products. Well not me, but @Capt Ron 1 buys enough for both of us. Gotta love Constitutional rights!

The amazing part to me is you honestly believe the left and the gun industry are on opposite sides of this issue LMAO!
Sorry about the dead kids but YAY GUNS!

I don't listen to the left on gun issues. They're just as blind as the right. They want things like banning certain weapons or creating small 'gun free zones'. Those things aren't going to make much difference.
 
Sorry about the dead kids but YAY GUNS!

I don't listen to the left on gun issues. They're just as blind as the right. They want things like banning certain weapons or creating small 'gun free zones'. Those things aren't going to make much difference.
Yeah but any moron can see that taking guns away from law-abiding citizens leads to more school shootings, not less.

The left and gun industry loves everything you are saying. You are targeting the only group that is defending children: Law abiding citizens.
 
Yeah but any moron can see that taking guns away from law-abiding citizens leads to more school shootings, not less.

The left and gun industry loves everything you are saying. You are targeting the only group that is defending children: Law abiding citizens.
How would taking guns away from law abiding citizens lead to more school shootings? Has there been a case where someone would have helped but couldn't because their gun was taken away?

I think we may have some common ground here. If anyone ever actually proposes a law to totally disarm only law abiding citizens, I would oppose it.
 
How would taking guns away from law abiding citizens lead to more school shootings? Has there been a case where someone would have helped but couldn't because their gun was taken away?
Every shooting in US history that happened in a 'gun free' zone.

Your fear won't let you accept this fact, but it is a fact: If a potential killer knows there are law-abiding citizens present who own guns and know how to use them, the chances of them using their gun to kill someone falls dramatically.

And that IS the goal, right? Fewer dead kids? Or is that just something you say that you don't really mean?

You seem to think guns are this inanimate object that criminals know how to use perfectly, and to everyone else they are this object that no one can control, that's just as likely to kill the owner as anyone else.

That's because you have an irrational fear of guns.

Your irrational fear should be of CRIMINALS.

Get the criminals off the streets, and the number of guns is totally irrelevant.

Re-read that last sentence until you understand.
 
Every shooting in US history that happened in a 'gun free' zone.

Your fear won't let you accept this fact, but it is a fact: If a potential killer knows there are law-abiding citizens present who own guns and know how to use them, the chances of them using their gun to kill someone falls dramatically.

And that IS the goal, right? Fewer dead kids? Or is that just something you say that you don't really mean?

You seem to think guns are this inanimate object that criminals know how to use perfectly, and to everyone else they are this object that no one can control, that's just as likely to kill the owner as anyone else.

That's because you have an irrational fear of guns.

Your irrational fear should be of CRIMINALS.

Get the criminals off the streets, and the number of guns is totally irrelevant.

Re-read that last sentence until you understand.
So, NOW you think a 'gun free zone' keeps anyone from bringing guns?

You know how stupid liberals sound when they call someone who doesn't like gays a 'homophobe'? Fear has nothing to do with it, right?

Throw the criminals in jail and keep them there. I'll support that 100%
 
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