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How long does Ron DeSantis stay in 2nd place to Trump in primary polling? Will they pull the plug on him before he announces?

I just don't get Trump having Graham around his campaign. The dude has had a few brief shining moments (the Kavanaugh hearings for certain), but for the most part the guy just reeks of The Swamp that is presumably everything Trump is against.

I think now its because of the SC plan and his Senate connections. Even if Reps take the Senate Trump is going to have a time getting the Senate to approve of his picks.
 
I agree there is still time, but politically I don't see it happening. Apart from the modest reforms that GA was able to implement, none of the other states that were close in 2020 (AZ, MI, NV, PA, WI) have done anything meaningful to correct what was done in the name of "Covid", etc. If I'm mistaken please correct me. These states are under Dem control, or least have power split between the Governor and the legislature.

In summary I don't have my hopes up. If you're not a resident of one of these potentially contested states, what else can you do besides vote? I guess one could make financial donations to the right advocacy groups(?).

I think its down to Indies and whether we have a recession or not. Myself and many talking heads think one cant be avoided but there are a few people saying those 2 pork bills they passed will give just enough pop to keep GDP growth just above zero until the election. If that happens it will be a nailbiter as the Dems have really polluted the minds of these younger people.
 
FNC was in Oklahoma City this morning, and polled the people in the Rest who they would vote for. Trump by a HUGE, HUGE margin. Nikki Haley got more votes than DeSantis. Unless something really crazy happens, Trump WILL be the nomineee. the left and the RINO section of our party keep saying Trumps following is not strong. Let me call them IDIOTS right here and now. They are 100% wrong...as usual
 
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I agree there is still time, but politically I don't see it happening. Apart from the modest reforms that GA was able to implement, none of the other states that were close in 2020 (AZ, MI, NV, PA, WI) have done anything meaningful to correct what was done in the name of "Covid", etc. If I'm mistaken please correct me. These states are under Dem control, or least have power split between the Governor and the legislature.

In summary I don't have my hopes up. If you're not a resident of one of these potentially contested states, what else can you do besides vote? I guess one could make financial donations to the right advocacy groups(?).
We can't do anything until we all agree what the problem is. We still have posters on this board saying 'Well yeah I think they cheated, but until they PROVE IT IN COURT, I ain't gonna be for sure'.

That's how they get away with continuing to steal elections. It's maddening as hell because I see what's coming a mile off. I suspect you can too.

The problem is the left is literally stealing our elections. Your vote is meaningless.

Being right sucks ass sometimes.
 
FNC was in Oklahoma City this morning, and polled the people in the Rest who they would vote for. Trump by a HUGE, HUGE margin. Nikki Haley got more votes than DeSantis. Unless something really crazy happens, Trump WILL be the nomineee. the left and the RINO section of our party keep saying Trumps following is not strong. Let me call them IDIOTS right here and now. They are 100% wrong...as usual
If Haley keeps getting momentum, DeSantis won't even declare. Can you imagine him finally announcing and having to fight tooth and nail with Nikki RINO Haley for 2nd? LMAO!
 
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If Haley keeps getting momentum, DeSantis won't even declare. Can you imagine him finally announcing and having to fight tooth and nail with Nikki RINO Haley for 2nd? LMAO!
I think DeSantis is making HUGE mistakes. He needs to come out and proclaim that he is, or is not running. He is letting any chance slip right away. And he MAY not run, because he may feel he has no chance.
 
We can't do anything until we all agree what the problem is. We still have posters on this board saying 'Well yeah I think they cheated, but until they PROVE IT IN COURT, I ain't gonna be for sure'.

That's how they get away with continuing to steal elections. It's maddening as hell because I see what's coming a mile off. I suspect you can too.

The problem is the left is literally stealing our elections. Your vote is meaningless.

Being right sucks ass sometimes.

The rule of law...law and order. I actually believe in these things. If that's frustrating for you, sorry.
 
The rule of law...law and order. I actually believe in these things. If that's frustrating for you, sorry.
We aren't pushing for forensic audits of ballots and machines. We aren't pushing for ALL votes being counted within X number of days of the election.

These two simple measures at a national level alone would make it massively harder for the dems to cheat, and we can't even get off our porches to say they should be done.

We have become one of those shithole countries where dictators tell us who won the election. And we deserve every bit of it. Staying on the porch and telling yourself you can't get up cause of 'law and order' has consequences.

Unfortunately, we all pay them together.
 
If Haley keeps getting momentum, DeSantis won't even declare. Can you imagine him finally announcing and having to fight tooth and nail with Nikki RINO Haley for 2nd? LMAO!

You give us hell because "we haven't secured the elections" as though somehow you just saying that means you're on top of it while the rest of us aren't holding up our end...

...and yet here you are celebrating who may come in 2nd place in the Republican pprimary when you yourself are saying that we can't win the general because the election won't be secure???

Make this make sense for me.
 
I think DeSantis is making HUGE mistakes. He needs to come out and proclaim that he is, or is not running. He is letting any chance slip right away. And he MAY not run, because he may feel he has no chance.
I read that the Bushes are trying to get some Florida law repealed that would clear DeSantis to run for president while staying governor. Apparently as it stands now, he would have to resign as governor before he could announce a presidential run.

If that's true, I can understand why he's waiting. But it's definitely not helping him to wait, that's obvious.
 
You give us hell because "we haven't secured the elections" as though somehow you just saying that means you're on top of it while the rest of us aren't holding up our end...

...and yet here you are celebrating who may come in 2nd place in the Republican pprimary when you yourself are saying that we can't win the general because the election won't be secure???

Make this make sense for me.
I don't care. Get off the porch or accept living in a shithole country. Only options.
 
We aren't pushing for forensic audits of ballots and machines. We aren't pushing for ALL votes being counted within X number of days of the election.

These two simple measures at a national level alone would make it massively harder for the dems to cheat, and we can't even get off our porches to say they should be done.

We have become one of those shithole countries where dictators tell us who won the election. And we deserve every bit of it. Staying on the porch and telling yourself you can't get up cause of 'law and order' has consequences.

Unfortunately, we all pay them together.

All of the things you're talking about...courts and law and order brother. You can't accomplish any of them without the courts coupled with law and order.
 
I think DeSantis is making HUGE mistakes. He needs to come out and proclaim that he is, or is not running. He is letting any chance slip right away. And he MAY not run, because he may feel he has no chance.

I still think the dream of Trump getting locked up by the left will have him running probably. The billionaires already paid him a nice sum through that book deal also. I guess if he collapsed behind Haley they might call it off though.
 
All of the things you're talking about...courts and law and order brother. You can't accomplish any of them without the courts coupled with law and order.
And all that is GREATLY predicated on public outcry.

Right now there is NO outcry.

Porch is comfy. Let's see if living in a shithole country is as well.
 
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LOLOLOLOL With the FBI, CIA and almost every other alphabet agency against our side....F*** the law, they do not have my trust. I am not in habit of letting people just F*** me without kissing me at least.
I just can't with these people. According to 'law and order', until the FBI investigates the left, and arrests the left, then the obama-appointed judges hear the case and rule against the left, until all that happens, the left didn't cheat.

Until the left PROVES that the left cheated via the justice system that the left controls, there's no proof the left cheated.

Absolutely maddening.
 
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LOLOLOLOL With the FBI, CIA and almost every other alphabet agency against our side....F*** the law, they do not have my trust. I am not in habit of letting people just F*** me without kissing me at least.

So you believe that acting outside of the law is the best course of action? I could not disagree more vehemently.

If that's what getting off my porch means then I think I'll just stay on it.
 
I just can't with these people. According to 'law and order', until the FBI investigates the left, and arrests the left, then the obama-appointed judges hear the case and rule against the left, until all that happens, the left didn't cheat.

Until the left PROVES that the left cheated via the justice system that the left controls, there's no proof the left cheated.

Absolutely maddening.

Sounds like you feel powerless.

Everything that you just typed is NOT based on reality or logic. It's based on frustration and emotion. I understand the frustration but the direction that you guys appear to be headed in, it's the wrong way.
 
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I just can't with these people. According to 'law and order', until the FBI investigates the left, and arrests the left, then the obama-appointed judges hear the case and rule against the left, until all that happens, the left didn't cheat.

Until the left PROVES that the left cheated via the justice system that the left controls, there's no proof the left cheated.

Absolutely maddening.

“Until the left PROVES that the left cheated via the justice system that the left controls, there's no proof the left cheated.”

When you define “The Left” as “everyone who isn’t loyal to Trump,” then yeah, I guess “The Left” does control everything.
 
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So you believe that acting outside of the law is the best course of action? I could not disagree more vehemently.

If that's what getting off my porch means then I think I'll just stay on it.
What I believe is EQUAL justice for ALL. That is NOT happening now. So F the law (mainly the FBI) So sitting around waiting for proper treatment from the law is not something I would be for. I am for changing this, and making the law blind to political affiliation. That means NEVER voting for a democrat, because they DO NOT CARE. So in short...disagreeing with waiting for equal justice does NOT mean the only option is to break laws.
 
“Until the left PROVES that the left cheated via the justice system that the left controls, there's no proof the left cheated.”

When you define “The Left” as “everyone who isn’t loyal to Trump,” then yeah, I guess “The Left” does control everything.
Hey DUMMY....D E M O C R A T S. Does that spell it out clear enough for you...or do I need to type a bit slower for you?
 
What I believe is EQUAL justice for ALL. That is NOT happening now. So F the law (mainly the FBI) So sitting around waiting for proper treatment from the law is not something I would be for. I am for changing this, and making the law blind to political affiliation. That means NEVER voting for a democrat, because they DO NOT CARE. So in short...disagreeing with waiting for equal justice does NOT mean the only option is to break laws.
Thank you. Good grief.
 
You understood that? Would you mind translating?

What I heard was "f the law...but no we don't have to break the law." I couldn't make much sense of that.
Dude...REALLY? Let me simplify it for you. It is STUPID to sit around waiting for the law to act in our behalf...they WILL NOT. Keeping pressure on the FBI to be equal hopefully will have some effect. At this time, I am really glad I live in an area where there are ZERO lib judges. (or should I say lefty, political operatives) . I truly believe you could be well within the law in lefty cities, and be prosecuted because of your political affiliation. I AM a law abiding Amewrican....my problem is not our laws...but the people in charge of administering those laws for their politics
 
Dude...REALLY? Let me simplify it for you. It is STUPID to sit around waiting for the law to act in our behalf...they WILL NOT. Keeping pressure on the FBI to be equal hopefully will have some effect. At this time, I am really glad I live in an area where there are ZERO lib judges. (or should I say lefty, political operatives) . I truly believe you could be well within the law in lefty cities, and be prosecuted because of your political affiliation. I AM a law abiding Amewrican....my problem is not our laws...but the people in charge of administering those laws for their politics

Ok...fair enough.

One question...how are you applying pressure to the FBI?

IYO, are you doing something that I am not? If so, what exactly?

If you aren't doing something that I am not, is it fair to say that you too are "sitting around waiting for the law to act?"

I'm not attacking you. I truly am not. I'm challenging the claim by some on this board that they are taking some vague and unspoken action that I'm unwilling to take. And it's BS...they're doing nothing that I'm not doing...save a lot of platitudes and empty talk.

Put simply, I'm calling bullshit because it's time to call bullshit.
 
I'm not attacking you. I truly am not. I'm challenging the claim by some on this board that they are taking some vague and unspoken action that I'm unwilling to take. And it's BS...they're doing nothing that I'm not doing...save a lot of platitudes and empty talk.
But you're not doing anything.

I once said the bare bones MINIMUM you could do was say the left cheated. You can't even do that.

You are doing nothing. While claiming that no one else can legally do anything that you aren't doing.

Which is nothing.

You are right about one thing, it is past time to call bullshit on bullshit.
 
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But you're not doing anything.

Neither are you champ.


I once said the bare bones MINIMUM you could do was say the left cheated.

Ahhh...so if I would just piss and moan like you do, about things that will need to be proven in court to truly matter, then I would be a warrior like you?

You're doing f-all. Until we win a court case, all of the tears mean nothing.

Talk about porches and rocking chairs to your hearts content. Those hollow words and meaningless platitudes. You're selling used cars friend.
 
But you're not doing anything.

I once said the bare bones MINIMUM you could do was say the left cheated. You can't even do that.

You are doing nothing. While claiming that no one else can legally do anything that you aren't doing.

Which is nothing.

You are right about one thing, it is past time to call bullshit on bullshit.

LOL...even in this post the only action you offer is "call them cheaters."

Why is that all you have offered? Because that's all you've come up with.

But that hasn't stopped you from talking down to others...pretending you are doing more. Pretending you know more. Chastising others with your utter BS. That's a shame man.
 
Ahhh...so if I would just piss and moan like you do, about things that will need to be proven in court to truly matter, then I would be a warrior like you?

You're doing f-all. Until we win a court case, all of the tears mean nothing.
And there it is.

Until someone ELSE goes to court and wins, you are going to stay on the porch.

But if someone gets off the porch and actually notches a WIN in court, well then you'll jump on the bandwagon and cheer them on!

Thank God our Founding Fathers spit on people that thought this way.

LOL...even in this post the only action you offer is "call them cheaters."

Why is that all you have offered? Because that's all you've come up with.
And you can't even risk your dignity to do that.

"What??? If I call them cheaters, then PEOPLE MIGHT LAUGH AT ME! No no......let the COURTS say they are cheaters, THEN I will say it!"

Pathetic. We deserve the shithole country we have become.
 
Neither are you champ.




Ahhh...so if I would just piss and moan like you do, about things that will need to be proven in court to truly matter, then I would be a warrior like you?

You're doing f-all. Until we win a court case, all of the tears mean nothing.

Talk about porches and rocking chairs to your hearts content. Those hollow words and meaningless platitudes. You're selling used cars friend.
He’s a paid troll or a ChatGPT or whatever it is fake.
He IS a used car.
 
And there it is.

Until someone ELSE goes to court and wins, you are going to stay on the porch.

When is your court date again? 😂

For 100th time....what action are you taking that I am not? Other than pissing and moaning, of course?

Oh yea...not a damn thing.

Sounds like our founding fathers would spit on you too, Mr. Revere.
 
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