Hey OSU or FSU wanna trade schedules?

[METSWIN]

Pass, FSU's product is typically pretty good therefore it frees me from having to root for in conference foes to feel better about my football team. That is a win for me.

 

[gatorshime]

FSU didn't you have a guy as your homecoming queen once? Alaskan that is who you meant when you said you dated the queen once?

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

[alaskanseminole]

FSU didn't you have a guy as your homecoming queen once? Alaskan that is who you meant when you said you dated the queen once?

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

If by queen, you mean Mrs. Alaskan, then you are correct kind sir.

 

[GatorGray]

Caitlyn Jenner thinks you look good in a dress, Igs.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Caitlyn Jenner thinks you look good in a dress, Igs.

 

[instaGATOR]

Well, guess what...since 1947 both UF and FSU have:

- 3 National titles.
- 3 Heisman Trophy winners
- 12-12-1 record vs on another when both teams are ranked
- FSU: 44 bowl game appearances (26–15–2)
- UF: 42 bowl game appearances (22-20-0)
- FSU: 41 1st round draft pics (all time)
- UF: 46 1st round draft pics (all time)
- 35 Gators currently in the NFL
- 53 Seminoles currently in the NFL (record breaking 29 taken in the last 3 years)

So explain to me the huge advantage UF has over FSU by playing in the SEC?

Is seems to me that you just put your horse riding the Indian. The Huge Advantage is FSU's by playing their usual 2-3 decent/good teams, and their usual 8-9 cupcakes, including playing 2 D-2's in the same season.

Bow-down admitted that he wanted the HUGE ADVANTAGE of an ACC schedule instead of the grind presented by the SEC.

 

[METSWIN]

"Meanwhile, the SEC had caught wind of the ACC's intention to hold an expansion vote and quickly convened its own conference call. They voted to not extend Florida State an invitation to the conference."

 

[GatorGray]

"Meanwhile, the SEC had caught wind of the ACC's intention to hold an expansion vote and quickly convened its own conference call. They voted to not extend Florida State an invitation to the conference."

What the hell does this have to do with Igloo's dress?

 

[METSWIN]

If that is Igloo I have some serious soul searching to do.

 

[danoleman]

"Meanwhile, the SEC had caught wind of the ACC's intention to hold an expansion vote and quickly convened its own conference call. They voted to not extend Florida State an invitation to the conference."

Don't you get it man!! We are terrified of the SEC! Even former Big 12 bottom feeder Missouri is too! Oh wait.....

 

[instaGATOR]

"Meanwhile, the SEC had caught wind of the ACC's intention to hold an expansion vote and quickly convened its own conference call. They voted to not extend Florida State an invitation to the conference."

I believer that was the 2nd time around and the SEC had other plans by then.
You don't keep asking the same girl for a dance, unless you're thick.

The BCS-NC established where the conference power was at.
Feel free to list the ACC's and the SEC's to prove your point...
(crickets)

 

[METSWIN]

"We had tried to get in the SEC for 30 years and had been turned down all the time," Bowden said, recalling the events in the summer of '90 that ultimately led the school to forgo its independent status. "Then all of a sudden they came to us wanting to get in there."

 

[MJWilliamson]

Fair to say we are in the middle of an ACC v. SEC pissing contest? For grins and giggles...here's a neat read on how the conferences played out last season. They say the ACC and others were better than the SEC. Before you dismiss them out of hand, look at their methodology. What do you think?

http://thebiglead.com/2014/12/03/was-the-acc-the-nations-best-college-football-conference-in-2014/

We are. And comparing the ACC vs the SEC last year, the ACC won.

One year a trend does not make.

 

[MJWilliamson]

I'm the one who has my eye on you.....

:lol:

coward

 

[MJWilliamson]

Meh. I think we'll be fine. We weren't contenders this year anyway and the next couple'a years look perty good.

2016: Ole Miss, USF, UF, Miami, Louisville, Clemson, ?
2017: Bama, UF, Miami, Louisville, Clemson, ?

Yep.

FSU schedules tough OOC teams...because they have to. Bully for them. At least your current AD and your current coach recognizes the changes in landscape.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Not an ACC/SEC conference thing to me at all, though MJ wants to move the goalpost that way. MJ doubts the veracity of the stats but apparently lacks the skills to research Sagarin from those yrs. and dumbly thinks that since UF and UM were good those years , that it supports his mistaken premise when it actually proves mine. See when both UF and UM are highly ranked, FSU"s SOS goes up, not down., and yes, neither UF or UM were in the ACC then which further proves that SOS is not conference-biased, nor conference-based. MJ does seem to go into the sputtering personal attacks when proved wrong however.

*I* moved the goal posts?

(Oh Dear...for you SPN)

This is what you wrote;

"Of course it does not matter in any way how many top 25 teams are in any given conf. Conference does not affect a given teams' SOS one bit."

You got your ass kicked on that argument, so now, rather than admit you were wrong, try and prove something else and pretend it is the same thing. But even doing that, you continue to get your ass kicked.

 

[MJWilliamson]

I understand what you're saying, MJ; however, I disagree about why FSU was bumped last year. A. the ONLY reason they were in the playoffs was due to the fact they were undefeated and were the defending champs. They didn't get bumped because they had a weak schedule or played in the ACC. They FAILED the eye test.

I think we might be saying similar things, Igloo. Yes, you are very right. FSU did indeed fail the eye test. They looked shitty last year in several games.

But consider this; what if FSU looked awful, but had a very tough schedule? If that were ture, I imagine the narrative might be, "Yes, FSU is barely winning, but look at that tough schedule. They have played against very good teams and have prevailed."

But instead, the narrative, was "FSU had a relatively easy schedule and looked awful."

I do not know how to look up a SOS prior to the playoff, but I am going to assume it was pretty bad, probably in the 30s or 40s prior to that.

 

[Nolec]

*I* moved the goal posts?

(Oh Dear...for you SPN)

This is what you wrote;

"Of course it does not matter in any way how many top 25 teams are in any given conf. Conference does not affect a given teams' SOS one bit."

You got your ass kicked on that argument, so now, rather than admit you were wrong, try and prove something else and pretend it is the same thing. But even doing that, you continue to get your ass kicked.

There is zero consideration given to conference in factoring a team's SOS. That is why ND ( no conf. in FB) could still achieve a high SOS and why my example of say UGa. works. The strength of any conf. or its' name or reputation or history has zero factor. Only the actual teams you actually play both OOC and in a conf. if you play in one factors for your SOS. This is also why a #20 SOS Independent, a #20 SOS PAC team, a #20 SOS ACC or a #20 SOS SEC team have all played equivalent schedules with regard to SOS. If the SEC W teams were ranked top 1 thru top 10 , it would have no effect on SEC E teams' SOS except for any cross division games. Please note that a KY for ex. could end up with a top 5 SOS but still be a lousy team by virtue of not beating any of the teams they played. Please don't be concerned about my ass though okay.

 

[MJWilliamson]

There is zero consideration given to conference in factoring a team's SOS.

You separate conference as an entity and conference as a collection of teams. I guess there is a difference? But not really, at least not for SOS calculations. A conference SOS is nothing more than an aggregate of individual team SOS'es

 

[oozie7]

If by queen, you mean Mrs. Alaskan, then you are correct kind sir.

Well damn! My man!

 

[MJWilliamson]

Yea, Igloo out kicked his coverage by a wide margin.

 

[Nolec]

Yea, Igloo out kicked his coverage by a wide margin.

I agree with MJ. Guess it had to happen. Beat the Vols please for the love of all that is sacred.

 

[regator]

Yes fsu has a tough enough schedule to get in to bcs game if they do well.
That said. For entertainment sake I would rather have a stretch like uf is getting ready to go thru than a bunch of cupcakes. Even if it means some losses.

 

[SoProudNole]

:lol:

coward

Dafuq? That seems silly. I Identified myself in the post.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Dafuq? That seems silly. I Identified myself in the post.

I do not understand the hint? You have got your eye on me?

 

[gatorshime]

Alaskan did u really put a picture of your imaginary wife on here? Talk about an ego. She looks just like some nolie chic I dated. Wait maybe it was her. So, that was wedding night. What now? 2 bills. 250?

 

[alaskanseminole]

Alaskan did u really put a picture of your imaginary wife on here? Talk about an ego. She looks just like some nolie chic I dated. Wait maybe it was her. So, that was wedding night. What now? 2 bills. 250?

 

[Nolez29]

LSU looks scary good.