The so-called "choke at Doak" celebrated as one of the biggest "victories" in FSU history (nole selective memory, it feels like a win) was merely a game FSU tied an underdog playing on the road.
Hey OSU or FSU wanna trade schedules?
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The so-called "choke at Doak" celebrated as one of the biggest "victories" in FSU history (nole selective memory, it feels like a win) was merely a game FSU tied an underdog playing on the road.
You may try to discount it but it was glorious. The fact that we beat you later in the Sugar Bowl made it even better, it's like we beat you twice.
By and large UF did very well in the SEC during most of Bowden's tenure. Since Bowden was successful vs UF, and the rest of the SEC, I would believe FSU would have done equally well if they played the UF/ Sec schedule. Additionally, FSU's SOS for the Bowden yrs. is top 23 with a run from 98-03 avg. top 6.
Don't disagree. But FSU would never, NEVER face that kind of schedule in the ACC that, if not the norm in the SEC, is certainly not unusual.
Igloo claims that Spurrier played 14 games vs the ACC and went 6-7-1. I had to check. He is right. Of course, Florida only played two ACC teams not named FSU over that period.
This is such a bullshit analysis.
"Hey, FSU mostly played one game a year against one SEC team during Bowden's era. Since Bowden had only a small losing record against Florida, he would have CRUSHED the rest of the SEC."
Playing one SEC game a year is not the same thing as playing a SEC schedule
Bully for you. I have often said the FSU fans think a tie is a win. This reaffrims that notion.
BTW in reality, between the two teams, Florida is the only team to beat the other one twice in the same year. And one of those was the most important game ever between the two teams.
THAT is the meaning of glorious.
And it took him losing 6 in a row to you guys when he was damn near 80 and had no business coaching for you to accomplish that. I would love to know the head to head record when both teams are top 10
It never does, of course. But the bigger issue is having a SEC schedule.What!? Transitive analysis doesn't fly here?
FSU had some great teams in the 90s. No doubt. And FSU would have stood up well in the SEC over that period, given the talent they had. But going through an SEC schedule is not the same thing as going through an ACC schedule.
Another bullshit analysis...wait that was not an analysis. That was an excuse. A pathetic one at that.
BS is not realizing that a top 25 SOS is comprised of the conf. schedule and the OOC. A lack of any analysis is no answer to that. Playing all the games and winning is the point, not simply conf. games. There is zero difference between a top 25 SOS for a SEC team and a top 25 SOS for an ACC team. Sigh.
...but I am curious to the latter part of his post. It's easy for FSU to beat up on a weak UF and visa versa. What is the record when both teams are firing on Top 25 cylinders? (I honestly don't know).
I do know our game used to have NC implications.
A top 25 schedule can be made up of a bunch of teams ranked 20 to 40 lets say.
Or it can be made up of a few top ten teams.
A decent team can go thru the first without a loss.
They might not do the same with the later.
I actually looked this up a few years ago. Don't feel like doing the research again, but the results when both teams are ranked were pretty even. I think FSU held like a 13-11 edge. It was really close to 50/50.
12-12-1 when both are ranked.
http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_recor...ida St.&oppname=Florida&grk=on&tgrk=on&cres=1
http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_recor...ida St.&oppname=Florida&grk=on&tgrk=on&cres=1
I see where you're going there: playing 3 top 10 and a bunch of 40's. Another thing is that who cares what the SOS might be if you don't win. Both teams were winning. We might be getting to over-analysis of a SOS, but I did post that from 98-03 FSU avg. top 6 SOS.
If we can't beat OSU or FSU on the field, at least we can beat them with our schedule!
Ahh, thanks for clearing that up. He wasn't afraid to play week in and week out in the sec, he simply joked about being afraid to do so, on a few occasions. I guess it was during one of his laughing fits he forgot to jump on board. Got it.
There just happen to be a lot more top 25 teams in the SEC than there are in the ACC. Do you not see how that will make a difference?
Hey Nolies there is a reason you were scared and went to the ACC and you wanted to play a weaker schedule. So trade your 2 teams from the other division for ours. You know LSU and #3 Ole Miss. Who do you got?
Come on Danny and Alaskan let's here your whining excuses.
Come on Danny and Alaskan let's here your whining excuses.
Shime, should celebrate FSU not being in the SEC. Bowden did him a favor. If FSU were a part of the bestest conference ever...golly that might make his head pop..
