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The top 25 changes each week but, taking this weeks I don't think many schools would trade with us.

We got #'s 3,7,8,10 and 25 still to come. We have probably 3 of the best RB's yet to come and I'd rate them Fournette, Chubb and the alleged woman beater, dog abuser Cook a close 3rd.

OSU has MSU and that's it. But, given last week is Urban's team overrated? They play so one will get out of the playoffs.

FSU has Clemson and us ( it will be an ugly game ) and that's it. Clemson has N.D. in 2 weeks and will either be a top 10 team or around #20 if they lose. They looked bad vs. a bad Louisville team.

This year's team sure looks like last year's with a good defense and a struggling offense. Ill give Coa h Mac time to recruit his players but, I'm worried about the future of the D.
 
Actually we don't know what any of us have 3 weeks into the season. FSU potentially has Clemson, GT, Miami, and UF. Then again FSU may have nobody. OSU has Mich St and possibly Mich (if Harbaugh can turn things around).

If there's one thing I've learned, you don't really know who you've played until you've played them and the season finishes out. FSU beat #5 ND last year and we saw how that panned out as the season unfolded. Heck NC State is 3-0 right now...they could build on that or not win another game.

Remember, shime, Auburn, Arkansas, and Tenn were all ranked at one point too...

OF NOTE: MJ pointed out in another thread, FSU and UF teams look very similar...stout defense, questionable QB and inexperienced, but talented O-line.
 
danoleman said:
When the gators are good you never see threads like this. This kind of whining must be a disgrace to old school proud gator fans.
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I don't blame you one minute, if I were a nole no way would I want to trade schedules. We certainly understand your fear.
 
danoleman said:
FSU has never feared any team. Why should we??
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Wow, that is an awesome question. Maybe we can get bobby to come on here and explain his thoughts on the best road to a national championship. Maybe that will clear it up for you, or probably not.
 
LoudounGator said:
Wow, that is an awesome question. Maybe we can get bobby to come on here and explain his thoughts on the best road to a national championship. Maybe that will clear it up for you, or probably not.
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Bobby loves to give tongue n cheek type interviews but Bobby didn't fear anyone. If he did he would have dropped Miami from the schedule. We went on the road and played some of the best teams in the country at their place sometimes without a return trip. How many coaches will do that??
 
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alaskanseminole said:
Actually we don't know what any of us have 3 weeks into the season. FSU potentially has Clemson, GT, Miami, and UF. Then again FSU may have nobody. OSU has Mich St and possibly Mich (if Harbaugh can turn things around).
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As much as I love to rag on the Noles for their schedule it's a good point. We can continue to talk schedule smack but how tough schedules are will continue to evolve as the season goes on...but there is no denying that we have one of the toughest out there.
 
danoleman said:
Bobby loves to give tongue n cheek type interviews but Bobby didn't fear anyone. If he did he would have dropped Miami from the schedule. We went on the road and played some of the best teams in the country at their place sometimes without a return trip. How many coaches will do that??
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Sorry bud, Bobby wasn't kidding. He said it multiple times.
 
GatorNation79 said:
As much as I love to rag on the Noles for their schedule it's a good point. We can continue to talk schedule smack but how tough schedules are will continue to evolve as the season goes on...but there is no denying that we have one of the toughest out there.
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Last year was a prime example (for us). In 2012 I was really excited about playing Ok St, ND, UF, Louisville, Miami, and Clemson all in the same year. Fast forward to the actual season and it didn't live up to the hype (us or our opponents). Can't blame FSU for that, though.
 
alaskanseminole said:
Last year was a prime example (for us). In 2012 I was really excited about playing Ok St, ND, UF, Louisville, Miami, and Clemson all in the same year. Fast forward to the actual season and it didn't live up to the hype (us or our opponents). Can't blame FSU for that, though.
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FSU's SOS was #21 last year. Not exactly terrible.
 
JaxBo said:
For somebody who banned every Nole on the board when he was a mod, Shime sure does like talking to them and about them.
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If not I'll just go away to Scout or ESPN like many have. shime's likely destination is Warchant
 
danoleman said:
Bobby loves to give tongue n cheek type interviews but Bobby didn't fear anyone. If he did he would have dropped Miami from the schedule. We went on the road and played some of the best teams in the country at their place sometimes without a return trip. How many coaches will do that??
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Um, this was a post saying we have a tough schedule and our rivals don't Jaxbo. Nice little shot at me though. I don't mind talking to anyone but, this board has about 3 rivals who post 90% of the responses on here. Right Dan and Alaskan. You Mods allow them to rag on our team, our players, our coach and the few regulars still left on here. Sad when even a mod gets takes shots at his own. BTW, jaxbo don't see you on here much....

Why? That is why.this site doesn't get much traffic.
 
danoleman said:
Bobby loves to give tongue n cheek type interviews but Bobby didn't fear anyone. If he did he would have dropped Miami from the schedule. We went on the road and played some of the best teams in the country at their place sometimes without a return trip. How many coaches will do that??
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please. If he didn't fear anything then why did he go for the tie in the choke at doke.
He feared losing and it shwed many times.
 
gatorshime said:
Um, this was a post saying we have a tough schedule and our rivals don't Jaxbo. Nice little shot at me though. I don't mind talking to anyone but, this board has about 3 rivals who post 90% of the responses on here. Right Dan and Alaskan. You Mods allow them to rag on our team, our players, our coach and the few regulars still left on here. Sad when even a mod gets takes shots at his own. BTW, jaxbo don't see you on here much....

Why? That is why.this site doesn't get much traffic.
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And yet we get along with 90% of the posters on here. Maybe that's because most on here understand a very simplistic concept. Tim taught us this concept. Tim is an insightful fellow. You should meet Tim. Tim is your friend.

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gatorshime said:
Sad when even a mod gets takes shots at his own.
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This speaks volumes. Can you hear it? Some introspection may be in order.

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The other thing that's important for schedules, besides the quality of opponent, is also the timing. When you play a team matters a ton as to how difficult the game is. For example OSU's schedule overall isn't that tough, but plenty of teams would have lost in Blacksburg to open the season. It's a tough place to play and it's the first week which likely means you're not playing at peak yet. Then their schedule closes with Michigan at Michigan at the end of the season, and you'd have to assume Harbaugh will have them playing good ball by then. And IIRC they play Michigan St. right before that Michigan game too.

I look at FSU's schedule and I don't think it's a bad schedule overall. They play at GT which is a solid top 15 team IMO, at Clemson, at UF, and then a decent Miami squad. What makes it look easy is the fact that those games are relatively spread out, so in between those games they play a few cupcakes and everyone kinda poo poos the rest of the schedule. But if they played GT, Clemson, Miami, and UF four weeks in a row, everyone would be talking about what a gauntlet it is. And that kinda goes to a point I've been making for the longest time. The top teams in the Power 5 conferences are mostly equal, it's the next 5 where the SEC separates. What makes our schedule tough this year is the fact that we have UT, Ole Miss, Mizzou, LSU, and UGA back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back. If that schedule was spread out a bit more evenly, I'd like our chances considering two of those games are at home and then we have UGA at a neutral site. So yea, it's not just the teams, its when you play them too.
 
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oozie7 said:
But if they played GT, Clemson, Miami, and UF four weeks in a row, everyone would be talking about what a gauntlet it is. And that kinda goes to a point I've been making for the longest time.
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That might be a bit like Florida playing Ole Miss, @ Mizzou, @LSU, and UGA on four consecutive weeks. Glad we don't have to do that. Oh wait.

That kind of schedule is normal in the SEC. Not so much in the Charmin soft ACC.
 
So we can buy into Bobby's tongue in cheek comments OR look at actual evidence.

Bobby played:

60 games vs the SEC and went 30-28-2
25 games vs the Big 12 and went 19-6
6 games vs the Pac 12 and went 6-0
10 games vs the Big 10 and went 8-2

101 games vs the Power 5 (by today's standards) and went 63-36-2

Dickeydagger, Pell, Hall, Darnell Played:

3 games vs the ACC and went 2-1
5 games vs the Pac 12 and went 2-2-1
2 games vs the Big 10 and went 2-0

Spurrier played:

14 games vs the ACC and went 6-7-1
2 games vs the Big 10 and went 1-1
2 games vs the Big 12 and went 1-1

Ron Zook played:

4 games vs the ACC and went 1-3
2 games vs the Big 10 and went 0-2

Meyer played:

7 games vs the ACC and went 7-1
4 games vs the Big 10 and went 3-1
1 game vs the Big 12 and went 1-0

UF's 7 coaches during that same period played 47 P5 teams (by today's standards) and went 26-18-2


 
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In your world, a game against VU counts the same as a game against Bama.
And a game against Duke counts the same as a game against Clemp's-son.

Do that same report, but include their end of season rankings, then I'll be impressed,,,, or not. o_O
 
instaGATOR said:
In your world, a game against VU counts the same as a game against Bama.
And a game against Duke counts the same as a game against Clemp's-son.

Do that same report, but include their end of season rankings, then I'll be impressed,,,, or not. o_O
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Hey, I thought you were the stat guy for this board, Insta! I expect a better retort from you!
 
Short and sweet. :p

Let someone with quality opinions do some of the leg-work for a change. o_O

:D
 
alaskanseminole said:
So we can buy into Bobby's tongue in cheek comments OR look at actual evidence.
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Except he said it....twice.

Not tongue in cheek.

BTW, your "facts" do not fit your narrative. If they are correct, and with you one never knows, Bowden had the worst record against the SEC compared to other conferences. It would have been much worse had he had to play a SEC schedule week in and week out.

Hence his fear of the Mighty SEC
 
FSUcks and then the scUM thugs of Mi-Am-I were on an important mission.
They set out to improve the All Cupcake Conference.
By joining the ACC, they became the Almost Competitive Conference.

And like the truth, they can't handle a steady diet of SEC teams, otherwise, they would both now be in the SEC. Live with it..... o_O

How many, and by how many different teams from the ACC even played for a BCS-NC? (or any other conference for that matter)

How many, and by how many different teams from the SEC played for a BCS-NC?

Case Closed.
 
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MJWilliamson said:
That might be a bit like Florida playing Ole Miss, @ Mizzou, @LSU, and UGA on four consecutive weeks. Glad we don't have to do that. Oh wait.

That kind of schedule is normal in the SEC. Not so much in the Charmin soft ACC.
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I wouldn't say that's the norm in the SEC. In 13' we played UT (5-7), UK (2-10), Arkansas (3-9), and LSU (10-3) in a four game stretch. Won't argue you with you that our schedule is almost always tougher, it is. And I much prefer our schedules to the ACC or most any conferences. My only point was that timing in schedules factor in just as much as actual quality of team.
 
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And if you want to see yet another over-rated has been's usual schedule, just look at #5 ranked neutered lame's.... :confused:

Only 3 teams currently in the Top 25, none in the Top 10, and they're scattered out across their excuse for a season. o_O
 
instaGATOR said:
FSUcks and then the scUM thugs of Mi-Am-I were on an important mission.
They set out to improve the All Cupcake Conference.
By joining the ACC, they became the Almost Competitive Conference.

And like the truth, they can't handle a steady diet of SEC teams, otherwise, they would both now be in the SEC. Live with it..... o_O

How many, and by how many different teams from the ACC even played for a BCS-NC? (or any other conference for that matter)

How many, and by how many different teams from the SEC played for a BCS-NC?

Case Closed.
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Case closed? Which one?

If the argument is that the ACC sucks, I agree. The additions of scUM and Va Tech were supposed to help rectify that, instead we get to sit back and watch Duke rise to power. Le Sigh.

If the argument is Bobby played scared, well, there's significantly MORE evidence to negate that than there is to support it.

"No better salesman ever existed. Bowden sold Seminoles football by playing anyone anywhere. When the Noles arrived at LSU or Nebraska or Ohio State, they gave as good as they got. Bowden would pull out a "barnyard" play, razzle the opponents with a little dazzle. He made it look as if playing at Florida State couldn't be more fun. He developed a national reputation as a gunslinger, and his results bore out the team's ability." --Ivan Maisel, ESPN Senior Writer

" Any place, any time, any opponent. That's been the philosophy of Florida State football even before the days of coach Bobby Bowden's tenure, when the Seminoles gained their reputation as the Road Warriors of the college game. Bowden's "Octoberfest" of 1981 (FSU played at Nebraska, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh and LSU in successive weeks, and went 3-2)" --Garry Smits, The Florida Times Union
 
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