Hey Kalimgoodman, if I blame the democrats for the shame of Portland, Oregon, am I just making it political?

[BillCutting4585]

I hear that but still not my fight. I find it sad that you use that to fight BLM. Caring about black lives comes in many forms. I'm sure you guys know that because you guys care about black babies so much.

There was a congresswoman who wanted to start an all white caucus that only wanted white people, so let's not pretend like it's all crazy thinking on the left.

Twitter is social media, not the government. Social media think I'm a coon and uncle Tom 😂. So I get it.

I wasn't a Malcolm X fan, I'm more of a Dr. King guy. I was just pointing out how the right ignore Malcolm X full thoughts and only point out the white liberal part. When he was way more critical of the white conservative.

I don’t condone anyone starting anything based on race as it’s divisive and counter productive as it stokes racial tensions.

What I will support is a party or caucus that supports America First agenda and has room for any race or sex. You know, that very popular thing that Trump started? Because he’s a racist 🙄🙄🙄

I think we both can agree that this country has come a long way in racial tensions. Are we perfect, no. Can we improve, always. However, what this current administration is doing isn’t fighting white supremacy, they’re invoking a new kind of segregation and propping up one race over another. Exactly what King Jr. fought against.

The current enemy of the people - Antifa, BLM, MSM, Marxism, China

Who supports these agendas? I’ll let you answer that one

 

[BillCutting4585]

I don't care for BLM. They are a political organization that is using black deaths by cops to get rich. I was not shocked when Taylor mother and Brown father spoke out against them. I was actually happy that they did.

You're mixing planned parenthood with abortions, they are not one of the same. I sadly know of woman who got abortions and none of them got them because of Planned Parenthood or a white person making them get one. That was their decisions. So no I don't equate abortion with racism.

I didn't even know right away why Planned Parenthood was brought up, until I remembered that's a right wing thing. Planned Parenthood = abortion.

It's not my fight but I do have knowledge on the topic.

This isn’t a right wing talking point, this is the truth. So let’s replay this one more time.

Planned Parenthood creator wants to kill all black Americans, planned parenthoods are predominantly in colored neighborhoods, planned parenthood completes the most abortions than any other hospital or organization, planned parenthood gets a lot of tax payer money, that money then gets funneled back to who? You guessed it, the Democrat party.

Who supposedly cares more about the black community? Democrats.
Who supports abortion? Democrats
Who gets donations from planned parenthood? Democrats

So in a nutshell, Democrats back an organization that’s designed to eradicate the black race, take money from said organization, create cute little slogans like “my body, my choice”, get white women to go along with abortions but yet are too stupid to realize that by supporting planned parenthood they are supporting a racist ideology.

Only in America do you find just how stupid people really are.

Planned Parenthood Sets New Record for Abortions in a Single Year

It’s been a turbulent last two years at Planned Parenthood, with a leadership shakeup involving the ouster of Dr. Leana Wen as president, and the installment of Alexis McGill Johnson as acting president. But that upheaval didn’t stop Planned Parenthood from having a banner year in providing...

www.heritage.org

 

[kalimgoodman]

I don’t condone anyone starting anything based on race as it’s divisive and counter productive as it stokes racial tensions.

What I will support is a party or caucus that supports America First agenda and has room for any race or sex. You know, that very popular thing that Trump started? Because he’s a racist 🙄🙄🙄

I think we both can agree that this country has come a long way in racial tensions. Are we perfect, no. Can we improve, always. However, what this current administration is doing isn’t fighting white supremacy, they’re invoking a new kind of segregation and propping up one race over another. Exactly what King Jr. fought against.

The current enemy of the people - Antifa, BLM, MSM, Marxism, China

Who supports these agendas? I’ll let you answer that one

The American 1st movement isn't as popular as you think. Trump never won the popular vote. Never had high approval ratings, his party lost the house, senate and presidency. So I disagree with that. The people who did support it was just very LOUD.

I AGREE about racial tensions. I think the media is doing a great job of dividing us and I HATE it. I try so much to tell people on social media that but I'm met with ignorance and resistance. I'm the big name that could make a difference. As I stated before, I'm 34 and I haven't had any issues with police since I was like 15 and I never been called a racial slur in my life. So I don't see it.

Antifa is not a democrat group. That's a right wing lie. Antifa hates Joe Biden too. Antifa hates the democrats too. They are what I would call independent.

BLM is in bed with the democrats. Can't deny that, so is Marxism with the FAR left.

China is in bed with the left and right. They are equally using our politicians to run our country. I know guys only focus on Biden but Ivanka did get patents from China and that's extremely difficult to do in a communist country. I'll let you guess as to why she got them after her daddy became president.

China will always own us because they pay our politicians well. Sad to say.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Bud, you are a liar and have lost your mind. You're just a nut job and no longer credible if you don't know pd's have cut funding. Get off of CNN. I'm done wasting my time with you because you're not a serious debater.

He's a dem. And a racist. And a troll. Strike three.

 

[kalimgoodman]

This isn’t a right wing talking point, this is the truth. So let’s replay this one more time.

Planned Parenthood creator wants to kill all black Americans, planned parenthoods are predominantly in colored neighborhoods, planned parenthood completes the most abortions than any other hospital or organization, planned parenthood gets a lot of tax payer money, that money then gets funneled back to who? You guessed it, the Democrat party.

Who supposedly cares more about the black community? Democrats.
Who supports abortion? Democrats
Who gets donations from planned parenthood? Democrats

So in a nutshell, Democrats back an organization that’s designed to eradicate the black race, take money from said organization, create cute little slogans like “my body, my choice”, get white women to go along with abortions but yet are too stupid to realize that by supporting planned parenthood they are supporting a racist ideology.

Only in America do you find just how stupid people really are.

Planned Parenthood Sets New Record for Abortions in a Single Year

It’s been a turbulent last two years at Planned Parenthood, with a leadership shakeup involving the ouster of Dr. Leana Wen as president, and the installment of Alexis McGill Johnson as acting president. But that upheaval didn’t stop Planned Parenthood from having a banner year in providing...

www.heritage.org

So you think a black woman goes into a planned parenthood with all intentions on keeping her baby, then she leaves planned parenthood deciding that she wants an abortion because they convinced her, it's best to do that?

In my experience/knowledge, that decision is made before going to planned parenthood, clinics or a doctors office.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Source? Because I have something on standby...

Want to see mine again?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

You would not be considered a white supremacy.

And being a racist, you would know.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I honestly don't care about abortion. Not my fight.

Planned Parenthood was created by Margaret Sanger. A white eugenicist who favored using abortion as a tool to ERADICATE THE BLACK RACE.

"Not my fight", says the guy that claims to be black.

Question for the dems: If we have a white supremacy problem in this country, how come you dems are the ones that prop up the white eugenicist as a hero, and we think she's evil?

We don't have a racism or white supremacy problem in this country. We do have a problem with dems trying to project their evil onto the rest of us.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

So you think a black woman goes into a planned parenthood with all intentions on keeping her baby, then she leaves planned parenthood deciding that she wants an abortion because they convinced her, it's best to do that?

In my experience/knowledge, that decision is made before going to planned parenthood, clinics or a doctors office.

Ummmm....in your hypothetical she made up her mind, then changed it.

Your example says your knowledge is trash LMAO!

 

[BillCutting4585]

So you think a black woman goes into a planned parenthood with all intentions on keeping her baby, then she leaves planned parenthood deciding that she wants an abortion because they convinced her, it's best to do that?

In my experience/knowledge, that decision is made before going to planned parenthood, clinics or a doctors office.

Why are you putting words in my mouth?

If a McDonalds is placed next to any neighborhood, what do you think happens? Basic human nature says that the neighborhood flocks to that McDonald’s because it’s conveniently close.

Do you go out of your way to shop at a local store or do you choose convenience due to proximity?

If it’s convenient to get abortions because the PP locations are close to home then doesn’t it make it easier to make a life changing decision? If PP history is rooted in racism, doesn’t it make it an easy decision to continue to put locations in close proximity to predominantly black communities?

Keep in mind, I haven’t even brought up eugenics or the Gates family and how they tie into this. You may just understand why the push to get the black community vaccinated first is actually a racist ideology.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

You're mixing planned parenthood with abortions, they are not one of the same. So no I don't equate abortion with racism.

I didn't even know right away why Planned Parenthood was brought up, until I remembered that's a right wing thing. Planned Parenthood = abortion.

It's not my fight but I do have knowledge on the topic.

You are so ignorant on the topic of Planned Parenthood and abortion that it is cringe.

 

[BillCutting4585]

The American 1st movement isn't as popular as you think. Trump never won the popular vote. Never had high approval ratings, his party lost the house, senate and presidency. So I disagree with that. The people who did support it was just very LOUD.

I AGREE about racial tensions. I think the media is doing a great job of dividing us and I HATE it. I try so much to tell people on social media that but I'm met with ignorance and resistance. I'm the big name that could make a difference. As I stated before, I'm 34 and I haven't had any issues with police since I was like 15 and I never been called a racial slur in my life. So I don't see it.

Antifa is not a democrat group. That's a right wing lie. Antifa hates Joe Biden too. Antifa hates the democrats too. They are what I would call independent.

BLM is in bed with the democrats. Can't deny that, so is Marxism with the FAR left.

China is in bed with the left and right. They are equally using our politicians to run our country. I know guys only focus on Biden but Ivanka did get patents from China and that's extremely difficult to do in a communist country. I'll let you guess as to why she got them after her daddy became president.

China will always own us because they pay our politicians well. Sad to say.

You are severely over estimating just how powerful this movement is but time will tell.

I’m extremely happy that you have progressed in life and haven’t had issues with the police, right or wrong. I always want to see people do well and will champion anyone who wants to better themselves. This is why I don’t demonize the rich by raising taxes as I feel tax rates need to be flat for everyone. Another topic for another day.

Antifa is a fascist organization that supposedly fights fascism which I have yet to see in the US. What I see are a bunch of white kids, drugged up or graduated college but no one will give them a job because the college education machine supported their decision for them to major in lesbian dance theory instead of a real degree and had no problem taking their money. The college also indoctrinated ideas that it’s ok to act the way they do and there are no consequences. These kids are also the ones who parents never punished them and have no work ethic.

BLM is a scam... period

You are absolutely correct that China is in bed with both and it needs to change immediately. I don’t care if someone wants to do business with China but any government official needs to be investigated for their Chinese connections and the amount of money they’ve received and why they received that amount. We need severe consequences for the politicians pushing pro China policy if they’ve taken money.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Why are you putting words in my mouth?

Because he's a troll trying to put you on the defensive claiming you are a racist and bipartisian, before you claim he is.

Difference is, he really is the things he's claiming you are.

 

[kalimgoodman]

Why are you putting words in my mouth?

If a McDonalds is placed next to any neighborhood, what do you think happens? Basic human nature says that the neighborhood flocks to that McDonald’s because it’s conveniently close.

Do you go out of your way to shop at a local store or do you choose convenience due to proximity?

If it’s convenient to get abortions because the PP locations are close to home then doesn’t it make it easier to make a life changing decision? If PP history is rooted in racism, doesn’t it make it an easy decision to continue to put locations in close proximity to predominantly black communities?

Keep in mind, I haven’t even brought up eugenics or the Gates family and how they tie into this. You may just understand why the push to get the black community vaccinated first is actually a racist ideology.

I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. Just trying to find out where you're coming from. Sorry if you thought I was, my apologies.

I disagree with your analysis because abortion is not something people want based on proximity. A lot goes into that decision and most of it is health and financial reasons. Everyone I know that got one was for financial reasons except one, they couldn't afford a baby. They are/were afraid to bring another poor kid into this world.

I think you should read more about or reach out to poor black communities. Seems like your analysis of them comes from right wing white media but I could be wrong.

 

[kalimgoodman]

You are severely over estimating just how powerful this movement is but time will tell.

I’m extremely happy that you have progressed in life and haven’t had issues with the police, right or wrong. I always want to see people do well and will champion anyone who wants to better themselves. This is why I don’t demonize the rich by raising taxes as I feel tax rates need to be flat for everyone. Another topic for another day.

Antifa is a fascist organization that supposedly fights fascism which I have yet to see in the US. What I see are a bunch of white kids, drugged up or graduated college but no one will give them a job because the college education machine supported their decision for them to major in lesbian dance theory instead of a real degree and had no problem taking their money. The college also indoctrinated ideas that it’s ok to act the way they do and there are no consequences. These kids are also the ones who parents never punished them and have no work ethic.

BLM is a scam... period

You are absolutely correct that China is in bed with both and it needs to change immediately. I don’t care if someone wants to do business with China but any government official needs to be investigated for their Chinese connections and the amount of money they’ve received and why they received that amount. We need severe consequences for the politicians pushing pro China policy if they’ve taken money.

I just see the movement losing alot. Just a loud minority IMO.

Yeah white people and police have been good to me. I have no issues with either of them. I don't get the hate to them but I'm sure it's political.

Antifa is the devil. They need to be treated as such but they are not part of BLM or the democratic party.

We agree about BLM, I just hope they start to fade away. It's sad that nobody covered Taylor mothers comments in the main stream media and I heard that Facebook blocked her comment to. If so, that's dangerous.

That's a slippery slope as far as business goes. If they do business in China, I strongly doubt that they will be tough on China. I think anyone that does business with a foreign countries, should be banned from politics. Just the perception of being compromised is dangerous.

 

[BillCutting4585]

I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. Just trying to find out where you're coming from. Sorry if you thought I was, my apologies.

I disagree with your analysis because abortion is not something people want based on proximity. A lot goes into that decision and most of it is health and financial reasons. Everyone I know that got one was for financial reasons except one, they couldn't afford a baby. They are/were afraid to bring another poor kid into this world.

I think you should read more about or reach out to poor black communities. Seems like your analysis of them comes from right wing white media but I could be wrong.

No worries, it comes with the territory of debate

I think you’re missing the point so I’ll put it as blatantly as I can. The overwhelming evidence is that a racist organization (PP) sole purpose is to exterminate the black race in this country. They conveniently put PP locations near black communities to make it easier to accomplish this plan. There is one party and one party alone that supports this organization, Democrats. The man you voted for, the vote you stand by, is the same man who supports this same organization without fail. This is also the same man who has said some very racist things recently and in his past.

When you say that you don’t have a say about this, you really do. This isn’t just about abortions, this is about a party and an organization trying to eradicate your race as they don’t believe or like you. Remember, this is the same man who didn’t want his children to grow up in a racial jungle. Not my words, his words.

 

[BillCutting4585]

I just see the movement losing alot. Just a loud minority IMO.

Yeah white people and police have been good to me. I have no issues with either of them. I don't get the hate to them but I'm sure it's political.

Antifa is the devil. They need to be treated as such but they are not part of BLM or the democratic party.

We agree about BLM, I just hope they start to fade away. It's sad that nobody covered Taylor mothers comments in the main stream media and I heard that Facebook blocked her comment to. If so, that's dangerous.

That's a slippery slope as far as business goes. If they do business in China, I strongly doubt that they will be tough on China. I think anyone that does business with a foreign countries, should be banned from politics. Just the perception of being compromised is dangerous.

Antifa has the exact same goals as BLM, it’s why they march hand in hand with each other. They both want to destroy the system.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

There was a congresswoman who wanted to start an all white caucus that only wanted white people, so let's not pretend like it's all crazy thinking on the left.

There was a black poster here that thought black criminals were really innocent due to the color of their skin.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I think you should read more about or reach out to poor black communities. Seems like your analysis of them comes from right wing white media but I could be wrong.

Or maybe you and your black buddies should educate themselves on who Margaret Sanger was, what she thought about the black community you claim to love, then ask yourself why the dems praise her as a hero, to this day.

Like I always say, you judge a person on their actions, not their words. Looks like you get easily fooled by the flowy words, and miss the actions.

 

[Orangeclad]

What this country needs is another MLK

This isn’t a right wing talking point, this is the truth. So let’s replay this one more time.

Planned Parenthood creator wants to kill all black Americans, planned parenthoods are predominantly in colored neighborhoods, planned parenthood completes the most abortions than any other hospital or organization, planned parenthood gets a lot of tax payer money, that money then gets funneled back to who? You guessed it, the Democrat party.

Who supposedly cares more about the black community? Democrats.
Who supports abortion? Democrats
Who gets donations from planned parenthood? Democrats

So in a nutshell, Democrats back an organization that’s designed to eradicate the black race, take money from said organization, create cute little slogans like “my body, my choice”, get white women to go along with abortions but yet are too stupid to realize that by supporting planned parenthood they are supporting a racist ideology.

Only in America do you find just how stupid people really are.

Planned Parenthood Sets New Record for Abortions in a Single Year

It’s been a turbulent last two years at Planned Parenthood, with a leadership shakeup involving the ouster of Dr. Leana Wen as president, and the installment of Alexis McGill Johnson as acting president. But that upheaval didn’t stop Planned Parenthood from having a banner year in providing...

www.heritage.org

Ironic in the organization's name of parenthood is that so much of what they do is to DESTROY the very thing that makes one a parent. They should rename themselves Planned Non Parenthood.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

What this country needs is another M

Ironic in the organization's name of parenthood is that so much of what they do is to DESTROY the very thing that makes one a parent. They should rename themselves Planned Non Parenthood.

And they've rebranded their killing babies as 'healthcare'.

As Candace Owens correctly states, abortion is the leading cause of death in the black community. Any black that claims it's 'not my fight' is either ignorant, or a white liberal posing as a black man on the internet.

 

[kalimgoodman]

No worries, it comes with the territory of debate

I think you’re missing the point so I’ll put it as blatantly as I can. The overwhelming evidence is that a racist organization (PP) sole purpose is to exterminate the black race in this country. They conveniently put PP locations near black communities to make it easier to accomplish this plan. There is one party and one party alone that supports this organization, Democrats. The man you voted for, the vote you stand by, is the same man who supports this same organization without fail. This is also the same man who has said some very racist things recently and in his past.

When you say that you don’t have a say about this, you really do. This isn’t just about abortions, this is about a party and an organization trying to eradicate your race as they don’t believe or like you. Remember, this is the same man who didn’t want his children to grow up in a racial jungle. Not my words, his words.

I think you're mixing, associating or trying to associate planned parenthood to abortion. They are not the same and I think that's our confusion. Plenty/super majority of woman get abortions that have zero to do with planned parenthood. That's all I'm trying to say. I'm not defending planned parenthood or abortion, I'm just saying linking them for a debate is definitely a right wing media thing.

 

[kalimgoodman]

Antifa has the exact same goals as BLM, it’s why they march hand in hand with each other. They both want to destroy the system.

The left will argue that about the proud boys, oath keepers and Trump supporters. Be careful about linking groups.

 

[BillCutting4585]

The left will argue that about the proud boys, oath keepers and Trump supporters. Be careful about linking groups.

Fair enough

 

[BillCutting4585]

I think you're mixing, associating or trying to associate planned parenthood to abortion. They are not the same and I think that's our confusion. Plenty/super majority of woman get abortions that have zero to do with planned parenthood. That's all I'm trying to say. I'm not defending planned parenthood or abortion, I'm just saying linking them for a debate is definitely a right wing media thing.

I’m curious, how am I mixing PP with abortion when I linked an article that shows they perform the most abortions? I showed you a fact that has nothing to do with politics. It’s statistical proof, I guess I’m confused on that comment.

Do I know PP offers other services besides abortions, yes. However, abortions are their bread and butter. Do you know that PP sells the body parts of aborted fetuses? Did you know that’s a felony?

 

[kalimgoodman]

I’m curious, how am I mixing PP with abortion when I linked an article that shows they perform the most abortions? I showed you a fact that has nothing to do with politics. It’s statistical proof, I guess I’m confused on that comment.

Do I know PP offers other services besides abortions, yes. However, abortions are their bread and butter. Do you know that PP sells the body parts of aborted fetuses? Did you know that’s a felony?

Because PP is a means to a decision. I don't think PP is making the decisions. They are just offering services to women seeking it.

That's why I don’t understand/agree with the link.

 

[BillCutting4585]

Because PP is a means to a decision. I don't think PP is making the decisions. They are just offering services to women seeking it.

That's why I don’t understand/agree with the link.

Of course it’s a decision and a decision that shouldn’t be taken lightly.

You don’t have understand or agree with the link but that’s the data and PP doesn’t give two shits about women, they’re in the business of making money at all costs. That cost is entrenched in racism. The whole premise of the company is to slowly eradicate black America and nothing has changed.

PP is just like BLM but to their credit, they offer services where BLM doesn’t. Both are ploys to engage emotion and to fundraise for the Democrat party.

PP takes tax money + charges for services and then donates back to Democrats.

BLM receives donations via Act Blue. Act Blue takes a chunk of the donation and gives back to Democrats.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I’m curious, how am I mixing PP with abortion when I linked an article that shows they perform the most abortions? I showed you a fact that has nothing to do with politics. It’s statistical proof, I guess I’m confused on that comment.

Do I know PP offers other services besides abortions, yes. However, abortions are their bread and butter. Do you know that PP sells the body parts of aborted fetuses? Did you know that’s a felony?

I cant imagine the moral gymnastics you have to go through internally to convince yourself that PP is a good organization.

And yet...most of the dems here are convinced it is just that. Wow.

 

[BamaFan1137]

There will always be high crime in big cities. Until more investments go into those poor areas in those big cities, nothing will change. It will just fluctuate from year to year. Thats kind of what activist is talking about with systemic changes.

I spoke on the difference in cities and smaller areas in another thread, see below

Post in thread 'So AG Garland announces DOJ to probe the practices of Minneapolis Police Department and my question is:' https://florida.forums.rivals.com/t...rtment-and-my-question-is.101447/post-1944406

The question I ask to you guys. Which policies are republican led states/cities doing differently than democrat led states/cities?

I heard a police officer say that everyday policing in America is pretty standard, no matter where you go. The real difference is how do your leaders handle the crisis or major events.

Disagree with everything in this post.

More investment in these poorer areas in big cities? We have had decades of that already. The culture will have to change in those communities before an investment in them will have any impact.

Policing is very different based on jurisdiction. For example, in my county you are not "allowed" to steal less than $900 worth of crap with impunity.

Some jurisdictions do not enforce marijuana use even if marijuana is illegal in that state.

Some jurisdictions will not arrest a person for an FTA (failing to appear...didn't show up to court) if it's a misdemeanor. You will be charged with it if you happen to be arrested for something else.

Some jurisdictions won't arrest people for not paying restitution to victims of crimes, others will.

Some jurisdictions will not pursue a suspect who flees from police...which causes more people to flee from police, of course.

There are MANY others but I digress.

 

[grandhavendiddy]

Yes, Manchin has a higher percentage of Trump voting than AOC but Manchin is a very cagey strategic voter. He straddles the fence between his party and the very red state he represents. How many of those Trump votes were meaningful in that it made the difference either in something passing or not passing. Probably none.

Here is a perfect example. On the Brett Kavanaugh vote for SCOTUS, Manchin would not commit his vote for Kavanaughn until AFTER Susan Collins declared she would which meant Manchin's vote was not needed for confirmation. So then he declares for Kavanaugh. What courage. He was the only democrat so then he could go home and tell the homefolk he voted for Kavanaugh. I have no doubt he would have voted the other way if his was the deciding vote on confirmation.

Another example. He repeatedly said he would not vote for that recent 2 trillion covid relief package unless there was bipartisanship. He lied as his vote was needed.

Now this. He has unequivocally stated more than once that he would not vote to kill the filibuster. If his is the deciding vote, I would bet my last dollar that he would not have the courage to buck his party for fear of retribution. Some of his party have also called it racist not to vote to kill the filibuster.

So let's see how he votes when it TRULY will make a difference. His vote on covid relief tells us the answer regardless of the propaganda he spews out before he votes.

West Virginia should vote out Manchin and the Republicans should re-take the senate.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

@kalimgoodman all kidding aside, you are doing yeoman's work carrying the independent troll banner for @BSC911 until the library opens tomorrow morning at 8am.

I'd say he owes you a beer, but we both know he can't afford it.

 

[jfegaly]

There was a congresswoman who wanted to start an all white caucus that only wanted white people, so let's not pretend like it's all crazy thinking on the left.

Twitter is social media, not the government. Social media think I'm a coon and uncle Tom 😂. So I get it.

I wasn't a Malcolm X fan, I'm more of a Dr. King guy. I was just pointing out how the right ignore Malcolm X full thoughts and only point out the white liberal part. When he was way more critical of the white conservative.

I think it’s ignorant to start anything all white. That being said, how you feel about things that are all black? Interested in your take.

 

[grandhavendiddy]

I give Kalim a lot of credit, a lot, for being honest and fair minded in his dialogue. I also do not agree with him on a number of items, but having open and collaborative dialogue is the essence of this country and what makes us great.

Fox News did some interesting polling on Biden. What is shows that Biden's main support is coming form his handling of Covid-19. Had Trump done the easy stuff more successfully (masks, remove the silly comments, etc.) he would have won the 2020 election. Trump got the hard part, Operation Warp Speed, right. Even Jake Tapper has repeatedly said that this was a huge success under Trump.

On the other part of Biden's agenda, it is falling apart and the polling shows it. The Border is a disaster. Safety in our cities has become a disaster. Taxes are going to rise because, among other things, we gave $1,400 to people who were not impacted, in any/way/shape or form by the pandemic. He immediately decries the Columbus shooting as a sign of systemic racism without looking at the footage (the cop saved a woman from being stabbed). Tearing down our institutions, both domestically and internationally, as being "inherently racist" and implying "without ability to be saved".

I know that Malone disagrees with me, strongly, on this, but college educated white women are the swing cohort here. My wife within 100 days, who falls directly into this, has gone from being a Biden proponent to maybe never voting for a Democrat in the next 20 years. She also sees Republicans (Graham) being reasonable about things like Climate Change and what should be done, supporting people of color like Tim Scott, raising the minimum wage (Hawley and others) to a reasonable amount) and then a lot of changes start happening:

1. MSM media outlets, already losing viewers in droves will go into pure free-fall and then change their programming.
2. Consent becomes less and less manufactured
3. Swing districts will go red again

I think people want to see Republicans to be innovative, fair, inclusive and reasonable. They don't want open borders, at all, but want for us to treat our brown and black brothers and sisters with dignity and respect.

Do all that and we successfully get past this moment as a country in a way that builds people up and not tears individuals and institutions down.

 

[grandhavendiddy]

I think it’s ignorant to start anything all white. That being said, how you feel about things that are all black? Interested in your take.

I think Kalim hits the essence of the dialogue here. It has taken decades of White America to really embrace Dr. King. Dr. King would be a centrist in today's terms. What has also happened is that the progressive movement has reflected back, wondered why more progress has not been made, and said to themselves, should we more align to Malcolm-X. It is seen in many, many areas be it Critical Race Theory, Public Enemy, Spike Lee, (btw - I loved PE and Spike Lee's work) and has now evolved into BLM (which is marxist in it's intellectual underpinnings) and the 1619 project.

I think this country can stack hands firmly on Dr. King's words. Judge us by the content of our character not the color of our skin. 30 to 40 years ago, people did not do that. People, for the most part (there are problem actors on both sides), do that. Moving to Malcolm-Xs view, is a far different story.

We live in interesting times.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I think people want to see Republicans to be innovative, fair, inclusive and reasonable. They don't want open borders, at all, but want for us to treat our brown and black brothers and sisters with dignity and respect.

Agreed completely. Hope our dem brothers listen to your words and stop being racist toward black and brown people.

We are all equal and skin color is meaningless. Republicans know that, I hope one day the dems can get on our level.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I think this country can stack hands firmly on Dr. King's words. Judge us by the content of our character not the color of our skin.

Amen. Dr King was a wonderful credit to the conservative movement.

 

[Orangeclad]

@kalimgoodman all kidding aside, you are doing yeoman's work carrying the independent troll banner for @BSC911 until the library opens tomorrow morning at 8am.

I'd say he owes you a beer, but we both know he can't afford it.

I didn't know Kalim claimed Independent status. Wow! But I guess if it makes him feel better, what the hell.

 

[BamaFan1137]

I think Kalim hits the essence of the dialogue here. It has taken decades of White America to really embrace Dr. King. Dr. King would be a centrist in today's terms. What has also happened is that the progressive movement has reflected back, wondered why more progress has not been made, and said to themselves, should we more align to Malcolm-X. It is seen in many, many areas be it Critical Race Theory, Public Enemy, Spike Lee, (btw - I loved PE and Spike Lee's work) and has now evolved into BLM (which is marxist in it's intellectual underpinnings) and the 1619 project.

I think this country can stack hands firmly on Dr. King's words. Judge us by the content of our character not the color of our skin. 30 to 40 years ago, people did not do that. People, for the most part (there are problem actors on both sides), do that. Moving to Malcolm-Xs view, is a far different story.

We live in interesting times.

Fear prevented white America from embracing Dr. King. That was a shame.

However, even though not embracing his message was wrong, ONE of the things many white Americans feared is what we are seeing today.

We just need balance. You aren't allowed to treat people poorly because of their skin color. Balance that with your skin color doesn't give you license to do _______....no matter what color your skin color is and no matter how you fill that _______.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I didn't know Kalim claimed Independent status. Wow! But I guess if it makes him feel better, what the hell.

Yes the old dem trick. "Look, I'm an independent, but even I can't support Trump.'

Same goobers were posting "Look, I'm an independent, but even I can't support Bush!" back on AOL 15 years ago.

They didn't fool anyone then, they don't fool anyone now. Besides themselves.

 

[gatordad3]

Why aren't we having rioting, looting and killing in republican-run cities and states?

Isn't this a question for the "down the middle" libs?