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Unlike the trolling feveredbrain and his little buttbuddy dg3, Max is a solid teammate on both teams. My proof for thinking that, is his continued presents on both rosters, while both coaches speak well of him.

I never expected him to play on the baseball team with so late of a walkon arrival there, did you feveredbrain?

But I did expect CBN to have at least played him some by now, and more than a few 'token' plays in the O&B game, or why bother to flip him from a place where he'd likely be playing by now.

And Fever, can you give us Browns UF GPA, just so he can know exactly how STUPID he is? Because there's some real STUPID involved with his situation so far imo...

Stupid to have flipped to come here and sit undeveloped and unused on the bench.
Looks like a bad choice now, for a kid that walked on the football field in his HS Jr season and learned the offense well enough that he went 25-2 while winning the OK 3A MVP as a Sr. (this is a major part of the reason that I think that a dedicated and competent QB coach is so badly needed here)

Why, Brown is so slow/dumb that he can maintain his grades and stay eligible at a Public Ivy like UF, while spending time on both the football and the baseball teams, so he must really be a dumbF.....

Or, maybe it's the feveredbrain, that thinks Max is too slow/dumb to learn that vastly complicated 6 win offense that Billy is running, is the dumb one in reality? --- (the iG is going with that last possibility) 😜

PS
While the 2 genius level xfer QB's that Billy spent all of his coaching and developmental time with, just set the all time UF record LOW TOTAL COMBINED SCORE (13 pts) for an O & B game.
That certainly lifted my spirits and coaching confidence after watching that 3-30 bowl loss..... 🙄
And oh btw fever, how did the Super-fabatabalous Miller-time / Pearsall combo manage to score ZERO TD's in the bowl???
 
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But I did expect CBN to have at least played him some by now, and more than a few 'token' plays in the O&B game, or why bother to flip him from a place where he'd likely be playing by now.
My dad was a mediocre golfer; but one of his favorite phrases was "Use every club in your bag."

I like CBN's tenacity & organization in recruiting & approve of most of his actions - but his refusal to "pull Max out of the bag" & give him some PT is infuriating.

" Everyone loves the backup quarterback. He has all the promise of an all-pro player without ever actually having to demonstrate it on the field. It is the blessing and curse of being second string..."
While the 2 genius level xfer QB's that Billy spent all of his coaching and developmental time with, just set the all time UF record LOW TOTAL COMBINED SCORE (13 pts) for an O & B game.
That certainly lifted my spirits and coaching confidence after watching that 3-30 bowl loss..... 🙄
There are 8 offensive quarters in a game - 4 for each team.
It wouldn't have cost anything to give Max a quarter's worth of playing time in the O&B game - the other QBs weren't using it.

It's nothing but a scrimmage & neither Mertz nor Miller delivered ANYTHING - 13 points TOTAL !

Their pass completion percentages were NOT Statistically Significant.

The L V Bowl was OVER by the 3rd QTR - but Miller got every snap.
I guess the scoring streak was more important to CBN than I thought.
IMO, not playing Max has more to do with CBN's pride & ego than anything else.
The more fans poke at him, the more determined he is to show that his "hand picked" Xfer QBs are the offensive solution & not the problem.

If Mertz & Miller are so much better than Max,
why didn't they accomplished ANYTHING in the O & B Game ?

Stupid to have flipped to come here and sit undeveloped and unused on the bench.
Looks like a bad choice now, for a kid that walked on the football field in his HS Jr season and learned the offense well enough that he went 25-2 while winning the OK 3A MVP as a Sr. (this is a major part of the reason that I think that a dedicated and competent QB coach is so badly needed here) - REALLY ?
Agree !
CBN called him a Diamond in the Rough or some such when he signed him.
Most competent OCs / QB coaches would put in a package of plays which played to Max's strengths - just to make our offense less predictable.

When you have a run heavy offense, you need a magician in the backfield to distribute the ball & a QB who can execute the RPO, QB Draw, etc.

Neither Miller nor Mertz has any speed or any moves.

Wonder how much time Max will get over the Summer working on passing drills with our top WRs.

One QB injury & we are screwed.
Urban won CFP championship with his 3rd string QB; but CBN not willing to spend the time to prepare Max & get him up to speed.


CBN should ask (beg) Spurrier to be a volunteer & "coach the heck out of Max" over the summer & see how that works.
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My dad was a mediocre golfer; but one of his favorite phrases was "Use every club in your bag."

I like CBN's tenacity & organization in recruiting & approve of most of his actions - but his refusal to "pull Max out of the bag" & give him some PT is infuriating.

" Everyone loves the backup quarterback. He has all the promise of an all-pro player without ever actually having to demonstrate it on the field. It is the blessing and curse of being second string..."

There are 8 offensive quarters in a game - 4 for each team.
It wouldn't have cost anything to give Max a quarter's worth of playing time in the O&B game - the other QBs weren't using it.

It's nothing but a scrimmage & neither Mertz nor Miller delivered ANYTHING - 13 points TOTAL !

Their pass completion percentages were NOT Statistically Significant.

The L V Bowl was OVER by the 3rd QTR - but Miller got every snap.
I guess the scoring streak was more important to CBN than I thought.
IMO, not playing Max has more to do with CBN's pride & ego than anything else.
The more fans poke at him, the more determined he is to show that his "hand picked" Xfer QBs are the offensive solution & not the problem.

If Mertz & Miller are so much better than Max,
why didn't they accomplished ANYTHING in the O & B Game ?

Agree !

CBN called him a Diamond in the Rough or some such when he signed him.
Most competent OCs / QB coaches would put in a package of plays which played to Max's strengths - just to make our offense less predictable.

When you have a run heavy offense, you need a magician in the backfield to distribute the ball & a QB who can execute the RPO, QB Draw, etc.

Neither Miller nor Mertz has any speed or any moves.

Wonder has much time Max will get over the Summer working on passing drills with our top WRs.

One QB injury & we are screwed.
Urban won CFP championship with his 3rd string QB; but CBN not willing to spend the time to prepare Max & get him up to speed.


CBN should ask (beg) Spurrier to be a volunteer & "coach the heck out of Max" over the summer & see how that works.

I think Engel was listed as 2nd string in the bowl game not Brown but may be wrong on that. Not sure why Napier is in no rush to get Brown out there but his reply when asked is usually some form of "Brown is improving but still has a lot to learn". I think some rumors are he still looks rough in practice but I do wonder if he still would look worse than Miller.
 
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I think Engel was listed as 2nd string in the bowl game not Brown but may be wrong on that. Not sure why Napier is in no rush to get Brown out there but his reply when asked is usually some form of "Brown is improving but still has a lot to learn".

I think some rumors are he still looks rough in practice but I do wonder if he (Max) still would look worse than Miller.
Fever,
Doubt that is possible
 

Top-40 prospect Caleb Odom makes surprise official visit to Florida​


Phone work paid off.



4* TE/WR Caleb Odom out of Carrollton (Georgia) in the 2024 cycle has crashed CBN's party.

The 6-foot-5-inch, 220-pound pass-catcher has been warming up to the Orange and Blue of late after omitting UF from his preferred schools list earlier in the year. T

he rising high school senior released an updated list about a month ago, which consisted of the Alabama Crimson Tide, Georgia Bulldogs, Ole Miss Rebels, Miami Hurricanes, Colorado Buffaloes, Penn State Nittany Lions and Florida.

https://gatorswire.usatoday.com/2023/06/09/florida-football-recruiting-caleb-odom-official-visit/
 
Max Brown sometimes struggles with routes on air in practice. Unfortunately at this time Miller is better than he is.
Paco,

Curious
You have stated that several times.
What is the source of your information ?
Is this your opinion after personally watching these "routes on air" in practice or is this just "hearsay" & you are repeating it ?

IMO, Miller has yet to show anything in either the O & B Game or the L V Bowl.
 
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Paco,

Curious
You have stated that several times.
What is the source of your information ?
Is this your opinion after personally watching these "routes on air" in practice or is this just "hearsay" & you are repeating it ?

IMO, Miller has yet to show anything in either the O & B Game or the L V Bowl.
People that are at the practices and seen it live. Brown struggles. I personally will be surprised if he ever takes a meaningful snap at UF.
 
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Well those people are just clueless moe-ron twits. Josh Allen would be looking for another team if Brown were on Bills roster.
Country,

Started to say that media only gets 12-15 minutes of direct observation time at the start of practice which IMO isn't enough to really analyze Brown's skill as a QB.

Another problem is that none of the media observers are QB coaches or have ever played QB at a high enough level to have an intelligent opinion.

When you look as our current QB1 & QB2, you realize that even if it was CBN making the comments, his ability to analyze who is & isn't an SEC quality QB is highly suspect.
 
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Country,

Started to say that media only gets 12-15 minutes of direct observation time at the start of practice which IMO isn't enough to really analyze Brown's skill as a QB.

Another problem is that none of the media observers are QB coaches or have ever played QB at a high enough level to have an intelligent opinion.

When you look as our current QB1 & QB2, you realize that even if it was CBN making the comments, his ability to analyze who is & isn't an SEC quality QB is highly suspect.

Not sure the real deal as I havent seen practice but another poster at another site said they were told on a different pay site that Brown wasnt looking that good in practice except for some throws here and there. If this season goes south we may get to see what brown can actually do against power 5 competition. There are a few QBs that play a lot better in the actual games.
 
Kirby probably planned that one. Losing him I dont think is that big of a hit but we are slacking in getting players to commit this year. I wonder if its our targets looking at NIL options.
Could be that Napier is going after a ton of 5 star recruits that all the big boys want and they're taking their time and weighing their options. The fact that he's getting so many of these type of players on campus is impressive and encouraging, but he does need to close the deal on a few of them.
 
Could be that Napier is going after a ton of 5 star recruits that all the big boys want and they're taking their time and weighing their options. The fact that he's getting so many of these type of players on campus is impressive and encouraging, but he does need to close the deal on a few of them.

I guess we will find out in the months ahead. Even though he owns it as the coach I think we know what one issue is if we fail to get a strong top 6 to 10 type class on early signing day. Its the same issue as why so many of FL's top players leave the state now. One good thing is It looks like Ruiz must not be writing the checks he was last season looking at Miami so far.
 

Florida fans need to 'buckle up' for the Billy Napier-led ride​

CBN - "We are light years ahead of where we wer last years in terms of fundamentals & execution."

PicKell said. “I get a good vibe from him. I feel good about what he’s doing in terms of alocating resources at Florida and how they’re working to get the right guys on the roster from a recruiting standpoint.

“I still see a lot of benefits there, but even if you don’t — he’s your guy for the future.

FEVER
The buyout for him (CBN) is $31.8 million — you’re not buying him out, you’re riding with Billy Napier.”

You can spend money on his buyout or you can spend it on NIL$$$ (better ROI for sure).
Don't think we either can or will do both - not to mention FIVE (5) head coaches in 13 years & the inevitable setback if we're stupid enough to change Head Coaches - AGAIN !


Pickell talks about improvement on Defense, Game Management on offense, & not beating ourselves with turnovers - pretty basic, but true.

Or, as DAD (Douglas Adair Dickey - UF HC 1970 - 1978) phrased it -
"Before you can begin winning, you have to avoid losing."

In his opinion (& mine) a modest improvement in W-L record will give us an upward trajectory on next year's recruiting trail.

Easier to sell a recruit on here's where we are headed, instead of - be a part of the change.

Decent video in article.
https://www.on3.com/college/florida...d-to-buckle-up-for-the-billy-napier-led-ride/
 

He said Kirby Smart produces the best players in the world
Tebow,

Can't disagree with Bowens.
NIL$$$ tastes great, when its in YOUR pocket.

Success breeds success.
You can't make a Silk Purse out of a Sow's Ear.
etc, etc, etc

Much easier to take a excellent HS player & turn him into a great CFB / good NFL player, than it is to develop a 2*

Smart & UGA the best recruiters in CFB right now. Bowens an excellent HS RB; UGA has probably decided that RB Jerrick Gibson not going to happen & they have focused on Bowens.
Odds are they will repeat the process & make him a great CFB / good NFL player.
 
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Florida fans need to 'buckle up' for the Billy Napier-led ride​

CBN - "We are light years ahead of where we wer last years in terms of fundamentals & execution."

PicKell said. “I get a good vibe from him. I feel good about what he’s doing in terms of alocating resources at Florida and how they’re working to get the right guys on the roster from a recruiting standpoint.

“I still see a lot of benefits there, but even if you don’t — he’s your guy for the future.

FEVER
The buyout for him (CBN) is $31.8 million — you’re not buying him out, you’re riding with Billy Napier.”

You can spend money on his buyout or you can spend it on NIL$$$ (better ROI for sure).
Don't think we either can or will do both - not to mention FIVE (5) head coaches in 13 years & the inevitable setback if we're stupid enough to change Head Coaches - AGAIN !


Pickell talks about improvement on Defense, Game Management on offense, & not beating ourselves with turnovers - pretty basic, but true.

Or, as DAD (Douglas Adair Dickey - UF HC 1970 - 1978) phrased it -
"Before you can begin winning, you have to avoid losing."

In his opinion (& mine) a modest improvement in W-L record will give us an upward trajectory on next year's recruiting trail.

Easier to sell a recruit on here's where we are headed, instead of - be a part of the change.

Decent video in article.
https://www.on3.com/college/florida...d-to-buckle-up-for-the-billy-napier-led-ride/

Lol...Dont care what his buyout is. You cant be going 6-6/7-5 three straight years at UF. No coach in over 50 years has done that after being hired here. My guess is it would seal Stricklin's fate and the new AD would be hiring a new coach if we are still KY level after 3 years. No excuse whatsoever (even more so with the portal now) to not have one 8-4 or better season at UF in 3 frickin years. It would be saying you assume you are a KY level football team now that has no chance to go better than 5-3 in SEC play. If we look like I think we might this season and go 6-6 Napier will be on a hot seat in 2024 as far as making us competitive where we can at least go a pedestrian 8-4. As far as QB Napier owns the situation as he brought Miller and Mertz here so its on him to have a good one for 2024 if they cant do it.
 

The Gators lost Chauncey Bowens. Now what?​

But the Gators and Billy Napier still have plenty of targets left on the board. Let's look at what the Gators will try to do to fill the hole left by Bowens.

For starters, the Gators do still have Kahnen Daniels committed to run the rock, who’s ranked as the 28th-best running back in the country and the 10th-best player coming out of Mississippi.

Florida also has three backs on their board that they will likely go after now that Bowens is gone.
The first is Tovani Mizell, who’s the cousin of Gators’ freshman wideout Aidan Mizell.

Tovani decommitted from Georgia a while ago, and On3 has the Gators in third place in his recruitment behind North Carolina at No. 1 and Kentucky at No. 2.

Out of Fort Lauderdale, Mizell is a big in-state prospect for Billy Napier who I expect him to start going after a little harder.

Napier may also go after FSU commit Kameron Davis, who will make his second trip to The Swamp in a few weeks.

Davis also plays QB but is an elite runner, and would be an awesome addition to the Gators class as the third-best RB in 2024 according to On3.

The final guy that we could see the Gators go for is Jerrick Gibson, who despite being a former Gator commit, is a heavy Texas lean with Florida’s chances shrinking.

Out of IMG and originally from Gainesville, Jerrick seems like a prospect the Gators should be in the run for, but they haven’t kept up with Texas to this point.

UGA apparently gave up on him & went after Bowens; Gibson probably headed to the Horns.

https://hailfloridahail.com/2023/06/11/florida-football-recruiting-gators-lost-chauncey-bowens/
 
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Fever,

Whenever you're ready, just pull out your wallet & give CBN & Stricklin their walking papers !

Your luck is that ADs don't have to be bought out of their contracts.
LOL

All I will say on that is we heard the same mess with Coach Mac and Mullen. All the sunshine pumpers saying they couldnt be fired when they were because of buyouts. Only programs with lower ceilings than ours would put up with non-performance like that in year 3 when you were around .500 the first 2 seasons. It would mean you are going under .500 against less talented teams.
 
The OK 3A MVP. He went 25-2 in his only 2 years of playing organized football.
Every time that I watch his highlights, I keep on wondering what he's doing that's dumb or wrong?

Instead of his Sr 2nd season, let's just take a look at his 1st season of organized football as a high school Jr.

In the summer as Fall practice begins. The baseball teams shortstop walks out and asked the coach if he can try out to play QB. Coach says yes, and the rest is history, as he not only learns the offense, but he wins the starting job, going on to finish undefeated in the regular season, and the runner up to the state champ..

This kid is obviously a fast learner and a TRUE 'BIG PLAY' DUAL THREAT QB.


He had 2,659 All Purpose Yards with 42 combined TD's

Passing - 1,667 Yds
Rushing - 992 Yds

I'm sorry, but any QB coach that can't get this kid ready enough to at least see the field and be given a chance, is not a QB coach that I want coaching my team. None of us knows how things would have turned out in the 22 season, the Bowl, or in the 23 O&B game, but we damn sure know how it turned out without Max at QB:
6-7, 3-5, and 3-30,,,, plus 13 total combined points.....



PS and if Max is really as bad/dumb as some seem to think, then pull his wasted ship and move on,,, better for everybody than continuing to make excuses for not playing him. 🤓
 

What an SEC coach said anonymously about 2023 Florida Gators​

“This season is going to test a lot of people’s patience,” the coach said. “[Head coach Billy] Napier was never going to be Steve Spurrier, and

he inherited probably the least talented overall roster in 20-some-odd years at Florida.

There’s a reason they ran off [Dan] Mullen, and it wasn’t about his record. The lack of winning on those top guys [in recruiting] is starting to show up on the field. …

It could really be trial by fire for [defensive coordinator] Austin Armstrong with that schedule because this is

such a far cry from the level of defensive talent they had with [Will] Muschamp. …

They have some depth at running back, and you can see where Napier wants to build along that plan and schedule he had at Louisiana, but are people going to be patient enough for that?

The bottom line is that this roster doesn’t look like it’s from the state of Florida, and
you can’t fix that in two off seasons when you play in the SEC.”

https://www.on3.com/teams/florida-g...h-said-anonymously-about-2023-florida-gators/
 
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Not my usual post, but came across this -----
One of the biggest reasons for not going to a nine game SEC schedule (6 rotating & 3 permanent) was ESPN refused to pay for the extra game.

Stated reason - ESPN layoffs or RIF.

When I first read that, I thought it was just a negotiating ploy - I was wrong !

The ESPN layoffs have begun​


While sources said this week’s dismissals will not include “talent” — which is what the media industry calls on-air personalities in front of the camera — ESPN will pare its roster in the ensuing months and years to come as it remodels its approach.

The network will tighten its belt for those making more than seven figures, but with a particular fine eye for those in the $2 million-$5 million per year range, according to sources.

This has already played itself out with lead college football play-by-player Chris Fowler, who is staying with the network, according to sources, but not near Joe Buck’s $15 million a year.
He makes more than Saban.


https://nypost.com/2023/04/24/the-espn-layoffs-have-begun/

Disney starts 2nd round of layoffs across parks, ESPN​


The Walt Disney Co. will be laying off several thousand employees this week, a second round of cuts that’s part of a previously announced plan to eliminate 7,000 jobs this year.

Makes you wonder how many will be left on the payroll.

7,000 Total employees would put you in the top 1% of all US corporations.

Had a brother in law who worked for WEDD (Walter Ellis Disney Development) while they were building Disney in Orlando - their motto -
"We work so that others may play."

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/disney-starts-2nd-round-of-layoffs-across-parks-espn/
 
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he inherited probably the least talented overall roster in 20-some-odd years at Florida.


Yep, only 10 of those guys off the 2022 team have gone on to collect NFL paychecks, 6 drafted, including the 1/4 at QB, plus 4 more FA signings,,, jus-terrible..... 🙄

And it is expected that some will leave the team when there is a coaching change, and a few did. But why did so many bolt after a year under CBN and his bloated staff???
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Recruit Cl.ass Rankings: Per 247

2024 - 22. UF - Currently

2023 - 14. UF
UF's new coach is given a 46 member staff to aid in everything, including recruiting, plus the new NIL $$$.
2022 - 18. UF - coaching transition class
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2021 - 12. UF
2020 - 9. UF
2019 - 9. UF
2018 - 14. UF
2017 - 11. UF
Doh!! - 🤓
 
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Yep, only 10 of those guys off the 2022 team have gone on to collect NFL paychecks, 6 drafted, including the 1/4 at QB, plus 4 more FA signings,,, jus-terrible..... 🙄

And it is expected that some will leave the team when there is a coaching change, and a few did. But why did so many bolt after a year under CBN and his bloated staff???
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Recruit Cl.ass Rankings: Per 247

2024 - 22. UF - Currently

2023 - 14. UF
UF's new coach is given a 46 member staff to aid in everything, including recruiting, plus the new NIL $$$.
2022 - 18. UF - coaching transition class
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2021 - 12. UF
2020 - 9. UF
2019 - 9. UF
2018 - 14. UF
2017 - 11. UF
Doh!! - 🤓
Insta,

As we all know, always two sides to every discussion.

Is there a line of solidarity within the brotherhood of SEC coaches ?

Is he (coach supplying the comments for the article) aware that there is NO EARTHLY REASON for staffs to be that big & for Coaches & Head Coaches to be SO GROSSLY OVERPAID & is he getting out in front to defend the system that pays him ?

Of course not.

Actual reality is likely a shade of gray somewhere between these extreme positions.

Bama & Saban started it, UGA & Smart, outdid them, & now every other SEC School & Head Coach is caught up in protecting their programs & their "rice bowls."
 
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Derrick LeBlanc to the portal ?
Reported elsewhere

Can't confirm - not currently listed in Transfer portal sources that I could find.


Derrick LeBlanc is a 6-foot-4-inch, 270-pound defensive lineman from Osceola High School in Kissimmee, Florida. He is a blue-chip prospect and one of the best in the country at his position.

LeBlanc has been rated as a four-star recruit by 247Sports, ESPN, and On3, while Rivals rates him as a three-star prospect.

As a junior, he totaled 38 tackles and 8 sacks for Osceola (Fla.) Kissimmee.

LeBlanc was one of the top targets for the University of Florida Gators in the 2023 recruiting class.

As a Florida player, CBN & Gators were highly interested in LeBlanc.
Like John walker (UCF) things didn't work out.

Perhaps he is homesick or things just not working out in Norman. Perhaps Gators getting a 2nd chance.

https://www.si.com/college/florida/...ng-derrick-leblanc-recaps-official-visit-2023
 
Derrick LeBlanc to the portal ?
Reported elsewhere

Can't confirm - not currently listed in Transfer portal sources that I could find.



Derrick LeBlanc is a 6-foot-4-inch, 270-pound defensive lineman from Osceola High School in Kissimmee, Florida. He is a blue-chip prospect and one of the best in the country at his position.

LeBlanc has been rated as a four-star recruit by 247Sports, ESPN, and On3, while Rivals rates him as a three-star prospect.

As a junior, he totaled 38 tackles and 8 sacks for Osceola (Fla.) Kissimmee.

LeBlanc was one of the top targets for the University of Florida Gators in the 2023 recruiting class.

As a Florida player, CBN & Gators were highly interested in LeBlanc.
Like John walker (UCF) things didn't work out.

Perhaps he is homesick or things just not working out in Norman. Perhaps Gators getting a 2nd chance.

https://www.si.com/college/florida/...ng-derrick-leblanc-recaps-official-visit-2023
 
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