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Gators to Hire Ron Roberts as LB Coach, Co-Defensive Coordinator ?

How many of these big time guys we actually sign is still to be determined. But at least he's making every effort possible to go after the very best players and not just lazily settling for who he can get - Mullen .
Ocala,

Yes the hell he is !!!

Mullen never had that many top recruits show up for one recruiting weekend; doubt he ever had that many 5*s show up in one recruiting season / year !
 
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How many of these big time guys we actually sign is still to be determined. But at least he's making every effort possible to go after the very best players and not just lazily settling for who he can get.
I totally get what you are saying, and I agree with the sentiment, but you have to admit, ultimately, every coach has to settle for who they get.
 
Texas would mean NIL was a factor imo. Not A&M crazy quite yet but they are playing that game hard. Ole Miss would probably mean it was a low priority.
Not everyone at Ole Miss is poor. If an Ole Miss booster wanted to match a Texas booster, there are some. The only difference is Ole Miss can't match an entire roster of NIL like a Texas can. Ole Miss booster(or group of) will definitely match probably any NIL to a member of the First Family.
 
Jeff, some things to remember and/or think about:

1. Peyton never beat a Wuerffel QB'ed team, college or Pro.
2. Eli never won a single SEC-C
3. I don't GaS what they or any others did as Pro QB's, I don't watch or support the NFL.

Take a Manning at QB and you can expect constant family / drama-queen interference.
JMOHO, but way more trouble that it would be worth.
I'd tell Nappy to stop wasting his recruiting time/money on him and spend it better elsewhere.

Another thing is that he is going where he can and will be the starter every year he's there.
That won't happen at UF, unless you want to see every other ship QB on the Gator roster xfer out at the speed of light.
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Georgia football coach Kirby Smart expressed belief that college football is on track for problems as it relates to name, image and likeness. He raised significant concerns about the sport's national branding losing some of its luster among the masses as a result. At some point, Smart fears, fans could grow disinterested in college football due to the game losing its amateurism aspect and the growth of the sport could be stunted as a result.

Alabama head coach Nick Saban took it one step further, saying he fears there could be cheating involved if programs begin using NIL exclusively to entice recruits. (did he keep a straight face when saying that???)
😂

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NIL levels the recruiting field somewhat in the iG's opinion.
Or maybe it just alters who has the best un-level playing field advantage.
Now everyone can pay the recruits, and they can do so right out in the open.
It now becomes; who has the most money to spend buying your team with.

The schools are now in a different competition, recruiting their NIL sponsors to make those payments to their recruits/players.

The schools that have always bought recruits with GoB 'money under the table' are not really all that happy with the NIL, because it reduces their $UTT advantages. Now every school can make an open $$$ bid.

The schools with the richest alum/backers will now have the same advantages that the long time accomplished GoB $UTT cheater guys have had.

The best $UTT GoB cheaters are fast losing ground, while the $$$ richest but formally mostly honest guys, are quickly gaining ground.

The iG as a fan, is becoming less and less interested in any college (semi-pro) sports.....
While becoming an ANTIFA / BLM Socialist-U is another ugly spike in this fans coffin....

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Not to worry though, because I see this as maybe a very positive thing for America. Citizens that are less distracted by 'meaningless to society' sports, might actually regrow their interest in their civic responsibilities as Sovereign Citizens. (as unlikely as that is, I can still hope & dream)

Maybe FREEDOM can make a come-back over the mindless distraction entertainment....

If the time, energy, and money that is being wasted on sports was put to use in better governing our country, local-state-nation, then we wouldn't be in the chit-hole position that we are currently in. (Cheering Let's Go Brandon)


Rome's rich elite used the same public distractions with the Colosseum and the Gladiators, and it would be good to remember what that eventually did to the Romans society... (remember or repeat, you make the call) 🤓 I don't really want someone saving me a seat by the fire....
Yes Peyton never beat UF. True Eli never won the SECCG.

You don't care about the NFL, we get that. However you defend Jeff Driskel by hyping his NFL career. A career that consisted of being like a 3rd stringer on one of the worst NFL franchises ever the Detroit Lions. Moved to TE for the stinking Texans. Has like 1 career win. Guess what? Driskel never beat Alabama or won a SECCG.

Kyle Trask. Your glory. Never beat Bama or won a SECCG or Natty.

What gives insta?
 
What gives insta?

TG, I'm so glad that you could glean the important stuff out of my long, boring, useless time wasting post. So Grats to you.

But to answer your so important question,,,,
NOTHING GIVES.... It's all costing you your life, by wasting your limited finite time in this infinite universe....
 
What was Nappy thinking??? Bringing in QB Miller to UF from the portal, when he might have actually fitted in and played some at somewhere like UAB or E.Mich....

Did he owe a friend a favor, or is Miller somehow related through his wife's family????
 
I totally get what you are saying, and I agree with the sentiment, but you have to admit, ultimately, every coach has to settle for who they get.
Very true. But if you never ask you never have them opportunity for them to say yes. Seems like Napier is asking a lot more big time players than Mullen ever did and time will tell how many say yes. He's at least getting a bunch of players on campus that everybody seems to want and is at least in the game. Mullen doesn't seem to have even been playing.
 
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Very true. But if you never ask you never have them opportunity for them to say yes. Seems like Napier is asking a lot more big time players than Mullen ever did and time will tell how many say yes. He's at least getting a bunch of players on campus that everybody seems to want and is at least in the game. Mullen doesn't seem to have even been playing.
Ocala,

You got that Right !

More 5*s on campus in the last week than Mullen had in his whole tenure.

LG89 is correct that getting them to take an UOV doesn't mean you can sign them; but this is the necessary start of the process - building a relationship.
 
Is insta starting to be reflective of his own mortality?
My family on both sides lived into their late 80's and early 90's, so I should be good, barring an accident, for another 15-20 years. So suck it butthead.

The sorry life of the dunnygoater
is limited to being an iG promoter
He follows me around
like he's hand and foot bound
and required to let his mouth just motor...
 
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My family on both sides lived into their late 80's and early 90's, so I should be good, barring an accident, for another 15-20 years. So suck it butthead.

The sorry life of the dunnygoater
is limited to being an iG promoter
He follows me around
like he's hand and foot bound
and required to let him mouth just motor...

No. Stop.

You were 70 years old back in 2005, you can't have another 15-20 left.
 
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TG, I'm so glad that you could glean the important stuff out of my long, boring, useless time wasting post. So Grats to you.

But to answer your so important question,,,,
NOTHING GIVES.... It's all costing you your life, by wasting your limited finite time in this infinite universe....
All I'm saying is this. You bring up the fact that Peyton never beat UF(one of the top teams during his era) and Eli never won a SECCG. Kyle or Drisk never won a SECCG or beat Bama(a top team in their era) but defend both of them.

I bet whatever team Arch goes to will win multiple games they would not have won had he not gone there. UT did such with Peyton and Ole Miss did with Eli. Other teams can win big without a QB named Manning, it's been done before.

All I'll say is if UF did luck up and sign Arch, we would be better for it than worse. However we could still be good without him.

I'm just saying I would be silly to not pursue him because his uncle's did or didn't do while numerous UF QB's didn't achieve the success you laid out for the elder Manning's.
 
No. Stop.

You were 70 years old back in 2005, you can't have another 15-20 left.
No wonder that woman dumped your lying butt.
And your daughter is certainly way better off with a real man, instead of a constant liar.

But tell you what dunny, I'll give you a break and let you go back to your lies without me bitch-slappin' you for it. Since your posting is a waste of time, I'll just put you back on ignore so you can feel comfortable with stabbing me in the unanswered back.

Now you can join LLL as the two worthless floor peeing puppies, stumbling along in my wake....
 
No wonder that woman dumped your lying butt.
And your daughter is certainly way better off with a real man, instead of a constant liar.

But tell you what dunny, I'll give you a break and let you go back to your lies without me bitch-slappin' you for it. Since your posting is a waste of time, I'll just put you back on ignore so you can feel comfortable with stabbing me in the unanswered back.

Now you can join LLL as the two worthless floor peeing puppies, stumbling along in my wake....

Stabbing you in the unanswered back?

You're such a drama queen.
 
Advice from the Gators' Support Staff to all Recruits

Lamar Sorey, who’s on the Florida support staff, told his cousin, WR Daquayvious Sorey (6-2, 185, Chipley, FL. High), & others, what it takes to play at Florida and what the coaches expect.

“He told me what the coaches are looking for in the players,” Sorey said -

“Lamar says to keep my grades up, watch how I move around, and watch who I’m hanging around.” - in other words - stay out of trouble !!!
 
I totally get what you are saying, and I agree with the sentiment, but you have to admit, ultimately, every coach has to settle for who they get.
LG89,

Absolutely correct !

But expanding the pool you're fishing in - both the quality & the quantity - for the recruits you need, has to help a great deal !!!
 
Billy has to get the Gators recruiting the way they did back in the Urban Meyer era, when five-star talent was flocking to Gainesville and Meyer rode some of the fastest rosters in the country to multiple national championships.

The whole program needs to be built around recruiting.

Florida has to build relationships.

That requires a more personal touch than a database can provide.

Napier gets that. So, too, does his duo designed to produce excellent on-campus experiences, Katie Turner and Bri Wade.

Read & find out why all the recruits are talking about the energy they now feel in G'ville & how they are helping to build relationships.

From TOS, but well worth the read -
https://247sports.com/college/flori...que-experiences-for-recruits-at-UF-184989245/

Freeling notices a change in the culture under Billy Napier​

https://www.gatorcountry.com/feature/freeling-notices-a-change-in-the-culture-under-billy-napier/

OT Monroe Freeling Senses 'Night and Day' Gators Culture Change on Visit​

https://www.si.com/college/florida/...oe-freeling-visit-culture-change-billy-napier

OT Wilkin Formby Talks Florida Gators Visit​

"When I got here you could feel the energy."
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...ators-recruiting-visit-coaches-care-interview
 
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Offensive line coaches Rob Sale and Darnell Stapleton have extended several scholarships offers this past week, They understand that the talent level among the offensive line needs to be raised significantly if the Gators want to compete for a national championship again.

4* OTs planning visits to Gators -

Lucas Simmons has scheduled a multi-day visit to the Gators next week on March 15.
https://gatorswire.usatoday.com/2022/03/11/florida-football-recruiting-lucas-simmons-visit-date/

Monroe Freeling out of South Carolina. He wasted very little time scheduling a visit to the Swamp after earning the green light.
https://gatorswire.usatoday.com/202...-monroe-freeling-schedules-visit-after-offer/

Wilkin Formby plans to visit the Swamp on Friday and Saturday, March 18-19.
https://gatorswire.usatoday.com/2022/03/12/florida-football-recruiting-wilkin-formby-visit-date/

Gators make offers to Three 2023 Pro Style quarterbacks​

Arch don't pack your bags for Gainesville just yet -

https://hailfloridahail.com/2022/03/12/florida-football-gators-make-offers-3-2023-quarterbacks/

2023 5* Nicholaus Iamleava - Pro Style
https://www.on3.com/teams/florida-g...5-star-qb-offered-latest-uf-recruiting-intel/

2023 5* Dante Moore - Pro Style

2023 4* Dylan Lonergan - Pro Style
https://www.on3.com/teams/florida-g...t-step-with-on300-quarterback-dylan-lonergan/


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"...Florida and coach Billy Napier expanded their quarterback board again on Wednesday when they offered five-star Nico Iamaleava out of California. However, the Gators still have
Arch Manning,
Christopher Vizzina
Marcus Stokes


at the top of their board.

Iamaleava is ranked the No. 5 overall recruit, according to the On3 consensus."
https://gatorswire.usatoday.com/2022/03/11/florida-football-recruiting-nico-iamaleava-offered/

Return of the Fun & Gun ???
With all these Pro-Style QB, Billy is recruiting, looks like he has had some serious conversations with SOS !

EDIT

Top RB Richard Young Locks In Florida Gators Visit​

The No. 1 running back in the class of 2023, Richard Young will meet with the Florida Gators on March 18th.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/recruiting/florida-gators-recruiting-richard-young-locks-in-visit


You can NOT win the SECCG with 3 yds & a cloud of dust; but a good running game never hurts ! LOL

2021 / 2022 Bama offense
Rushing - 2,659 yds (less 409 sacks = net 2250 yds) & 21 TDs
Passing - Attempted 571 - completed 380 - 5,073 yds - 48 TDs - 7 int

Bama - 2:1 passing vs net rushing offense

https://rolltide.com/sports/football/stats
Rumor here around Tennessee is Nicholaus Iamleava NIL deal is in the millions per year to play at Rocky Top
 
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The Next Kyle Pitts ?

Florida Gators signee Tony Livingston earned quite the honor this week.

Livingston was named the Class 5A state player of the year in boys basketball by the Florida Dairy Farmers. Livingston, who attends King High School in Tampa, Florida. He averaged 24.3 points and 10.9 rebounds per game and led the Lions to their first district title in 12 years.

Livingston is 6’4 3/4, and 225 pounds this weekend, and he’s got 11" hands. That’s very unique. He’s extremely long, and he’s got a big frame.

https://www.on3.com/teams/florida-g...ed-high-school-basketball-player-of-the-year/
 
Jeff, you should shoot an email about Tony to the Goldbrick, cause he's going to need a new KJ on his roster, and that kid looks like he might be even better than KJ was before his faceplant.... 😉
 

LaFrance: “I think we’re generating a little buzz” in recruiting​


LaFrance knew about the Gators’ championship history before he accepted the position at Florida, but he’s been a bit surprised by how many advantages they have over their in-state competition.

“Obviously, you knew the brand and the history and the success that they’ve had,” he said. “Just to see the natural draw to Florida over Miami, over Florida State [has surprised me]. And then I knew the academic institution was what it is, but I didn’t realize the power of that. A top-5 public institution in the country, it puts you in with a different caliber of player, too.

Only time will tell if this staff will recruit at the level necessary to win championships, but, if they don’t, it likely won’t be because of a lack of effort. LaFrance said that it’s nice to have a sizable recruiting staff, a large recruiting budget and skilled recruiters as assistant coaches, but, ultimately, the Gators’ year-round dedication to recruiting begins and ends with Napier.

“He’s very hands-on in recruiting, and I think that’s important in our roles as support staff, whether it’s Katie [Turner], Bri [Wade], myself, Bird [Sherrill], to have a head coach that values recruiting,” LaFrance said. “If it doesn’t start at the top, my job would be very hard.”

https://www.gatorcountry.com/feature/lafrance-i-think-were-generating-a-little-buzz-in-recruiting/

Per Thomas Goldkamp of TOS -
5-star DL Vic Burley came away from a visit to UF today raving about the #Gators’ new coaching staff.
Florida crushed the visit and is right in the thick of things.
https://hailfloridahail.com/2022/03/27/florida-football-top-5-2023-dl-recruit-raves-gators-visit/

There’s no doubt Napier’s personal approach made a difference during Burley’s visit. Being treated as more than just a football player stood out to him as it has to so many other recruits since Napier took over.
https://gatorswire.usatoday.com/202...l-recruiting-vic-burley-visit-reaction-march/
 
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This is Arch Manning’s fifth trip to Austin. He and a handful of other recruits toured the campus and watched a spring practice. Texas is On3’s favorite to land Manning.

Manning and his teammate, tight end Will Randle, who also holds an offer from Texas, were spotted during their visit over the weekend.

Alabama, Georgia and Texas are viewed as the leaders in Arch's recruitment.

Bama & UGA I understand; strong teams & their starting QBs will leave after this year.
Bama's Bryce Young to the NFL; UGA's Stetson Bennett runs out of eligibility. Don't see Bennett as NFL bound, but what a hell of a job he's done while at UGA.
FYI - he beat Saban & Young for the CFP Championship.

Don't understand Arch to Texas - losing record - worse than the Gators - 5-7; 3-6 in Big XII. Sarkisian on the hot seat after his 1st season there.
5* Quinn Ewers transferred in from Ohio State last December; giving him a year to consolidate his hold as QB1

Would take him if he came; but don't see Gators as a legitimate destination for Arch; we are rebuilding; 2 years (at best) before we contend for SEC & CFP Title.

https://longhornswire.usatoday.com/...ball-recruiting-quarterback-visit-2023-class/

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IMO, Tebow Time is likely correct-Arch Manning probably goes to Bama or Ole Miss.

Manning is like Harold Perkins - checking out all the possibilities. & the various NIL $$ deals.

If I had their athletic skills I would do the same !

Six in our QB room; one of them will be the next Kyle Trask.

Breaking the lock out at IMG will be more helpful for the Gators in the long run.

EDIT

Gators to receive visits from trio of talented IMG Academy prospects​

5* OT Francis Mauigoa
5* ATH Samuel M'Pemba
4* IOL Knijeah Harris

Other IMG Players who seem to have interest in the Gators -
4* ILB Jordan Hall
4* DL Will Norman



https://gatorswire.usatoday.com/lis...-mauigoa-samuel-mpemba-knijeah-harris-visits/
Jeff, probably all "silents". That means we haven't heard from them and more than likely won't......jim
 
This is Arch Manning’s fifth trip to Austin. He and a handful of other recruits toured the campus and watched a spring practice. Texas is On3’s favorite to land Manning.

Manning and his teammate, tight end Will Randle, who also holds an offer from Texas, were spotted during their visit over the weekend.

Alabama, Georgia and Texas are viewed as the leaders in Arch's recruitment.

Bama & UGA I understand; strong teams & their starting QBs will leave after this year.
Bama's Bryce Young to the NFL; UGA's Stetson Bennett runs out of eligibility. Don't see Bennett as NFL bound, but what a hell of a job he's done while at UGA.
FYI - he beat Saban & Young for the CFP Championship.

Don't understand Arch to Texas - losing record - worse than the Gators - 5-7; 3-6 in Big XII. Sarkisian on the hot seat after his 1st season there.
5* Quinn Ewers transferred in from Ohio State last December; giving him a year to consolidate his hold as QB1

Would take him if he came; but don't see Gators as a legitimate destination for Arch; we are rebuilding; 2 years (at best) before we contend for SEC & CFP Title.

https://longhornswire.usatoday.com/...ball-recruiting-quarterback-visit-2023-class/

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Texas is right behind A&M with setting up NIL deals to overpay these top recruits.
 
Texas is right behind A&M with setting up NIL deals to overpay these top recruits.
Fever,

See your point & agree with it.

Had a discussion in this thread with LG89 about Arch & NIL $$. He was insistent that the Manning family already had money & NIL was no big deal to Arch.

My rebuttal was simple; that was family money not Arch's money. If a bunch of Longhorn boosters wanted to pay you $1MM to play football in Austin, that would be YOUR money !

Bryce Young supposedly got a $1MM NIL deal; Bama & UGA have better overall team talent & probably willing to match most NIL deals..

Texas's roster is similar to the Gators; needs much improvement !
So even with a large NIL deal, does he want to waste a year or two of his college career ?

If he wins two CFP Championships & becomes the #1 overall pick, not only is his path to the NFL GOLDEN, but he would have more control over what NFL team he plays for !

Remember Eli Manning & the 2004 NFL Draft: Chargers select Eli Manning No. 1 overall, then trade him to Giants because he refused to play for the Chargers.

If the wrong NFL team drafts Arch, he will already have $1MM, or more, in NIL money in his pocket & can sit out a year & tell NFL to "bite me !"
 
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Agreed - money will be a major factor but it won't be the only factor in these kids making decisions. Many times players in the NFL will get 3-4 offers and they don't always take the highlest offer. System fit, location - family concerns etc. always play a role. Of course if you are talking about huge disparities in money then yes, that might be the only reason a kid goes to a school. But if the money is close (and that depends on the individual) there will be other factors that mean as much.
 
Most sites feel that Bama, UGA, & Texas are Arch Manning's top 3 schools.
Gators are rebuilding & doubt he even takes an Un-Official Visit to UF
PLUS Arch would not be able to beat out AR-15 for QB1 slot

So Move over Arch - Florida offers another 4* quarterback from Louisiana in 2023 recruiting class -​

Eli Holstein - 4* Pro Style QB - 6'4" 220 lbs - former aTm Commit - from Zachary, La


3 yr HS Stats per MaxPreps
Passing - 224 of 346 for 3,567 yds - 32 TDs - 8 Int
Rushing - 71 carries for 524 yds - 14 TDs
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/eli-holstein/_8SV4roFEemAzfp8ouYFiw/football/stats.htm

Holstein did not start as a Fresh or Soph; so even though number of games is uneven; only comparison is Holstein vs Manning Jr Year Stats; Holstein's are better than Manning's.

Holstein
Passing - 203 of 312 - 3264 yds - 29 TDs - 6 Int
Rushing - 65 carries - 515 yds - 14 Tds

Manning
Passing - 115 of 186 - 1371 yds - 17 TD - 4 Int
Rushing - 33 carries - 310 yds - 5 Tds

https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/arch-manning/MwHTOHBpEemA0ZFtwg1OMQ/football/stats.htm

Level of competition is unequal; Zachary is a 5A Public school with 1,581 students in grades 9-12; Newman is a private school with 917 students in grades PK, K-12.


Isidore Newman Enrollment Grades 9-12
Nineth - 97
Tenth - 78
Eleventh - 73
Twelfth - 66

Gender - 55% male - 45% Female

314 students; approximately 172 males in grades 9-12.
https://www.homefacts.com/schools/Louisiana/Orleans-Parish/New-Orleans/Isidore-Newman-School.html

Basically, Arch just had to walk out on the field to become QB1 as a HS Fresh.

Not saying he doesn't have talent, Saban, Smart, Fisher, etc. not stupid & there is a reason why every SEC school wants him, but IMO, his last name adds quite a bit to his resume.

US Census shows Zachary, La has a population of 19,316 & that East Baton Rouge Parish has several other high schools with enrollments the same or larger than Zachary giving them excellent competition.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/louisiana/rankings/baton-rouge-la-12940


FYI - Jacksonville, Bolles - Total: 1,712; Upper School: 818; Middle School: 417; Lower School: 477.
 
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Most sites feel that Bama, UGA, & Texas are Arch Manning's top 3 schools.
Gators are rebuilding & doubt he even takes an Un-Official Visit to UF
PLUS Arch would not be able to beat out AR-15 for QB1 slot

So Move over Arch - Florida offers another 4* quarterback from Louisiana in 2023 recruiting class -​

Eli Holstein - 4* Pro Style QB - 6'4" 220 lbs - former aTm Commit - from Zachary, La



3 yr HS Stats per MaxPreps
Passing - 224 of 346 for 3,567 yds - 32 TDs - 8 Int
Rushing - 71 carries for 524 yds - 14 TDs
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/eli-holstein/_8SV4roFEemAzfp8ouYFiw/football/stats.htm

Holstein did not start as a Fresh or Soph; so even though number of games is uneven; only comparison is Holstein vs Manning Jr Year Stats; Holstein's are better than Manning's.

Holstein
Passing - 203 of 312 - 3264 yds - 29 TDs - 6 Int
Rushing - 65 carries - 515 yds - 14 Tds

Manning
Passing - 115 of 186 - 1371 yds - 17 TD - 4 Int
Rushing - 33 carries - 310 yds - 5 Tds

https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/arch-manning/MwHTOHBpEemA0ZFtwg1OMQ/football/stats.htm

Level of competition is unequal; Zachary is a 5A Public school with 1,581 students in grades 9-12; Newman is a private school with 917 students in grades PK, K-12.


Isidore Newman Enrollment Grades 9-12
Nineth - 97
Tenth - 78
Eleventh - 73
Twelfth - 66

Gender - 55% male - 45% Female

314 students; approximately 172 males in grades 9-12.
https://www.homefacts.com/schools/Louisiana/Orleans-Parish/New-Orleans/Isidore-Newman-School.html

Basically, Arch just had to walk out on the field to become QB1 as a HS Fresh.

Not saying he doesn't have talent, Saban, Smart, Fisher, etc. not stupid & there is a reason why every SEC school wants him, but IMO, his last name adds quite a bit to his resume.

US Census shows Zachary, La has a population of 19,316 & that East Baton Rouge Parish has several other high schools with enrollments the same or larger than Zachary giving them excellent competition.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/louisiana/rankings/baton-rouge-la-12940


FYI - Jacksonville, Bolles - Total: 1,712; Upper School: 818; Middle School: 417; Lower School: 477.
Good points.
 
Most sites feel that Bama, UGA, & Texas are Arch Manning's top 3 schools.
Gators are rebuilding & doubt he even takes an Un-Official Visit to UF
PLUS Arch would not be able to beat out AR-15 for QB1 slot

So Move over Arch - Florida offers another 4* quarterback from Louisiana in 2023 recruiting class -​

Eli Holstein - 4* Pro Style QB - 6'4" 220 lbs - former aTm Commit - from Zachary, La



3 yr HS Stats per MaxPreps
Passing - 224 of 346 for 3,567 yds - 32 TDs - 8 Int
Rushing - 71 carries for 524 yds - 14 TDs
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/eli-holstein/_8SV4roFEemAzfp8ouYFiw/football/stats.htm

Holstein did not start as a Fresh or Soph; so even though number of games is uneven; only comparison is Holstein vs Manning Jr Year Stats; Holstein's are better than Manning's.

Holstein
Passing - 203 of 312 - 3264 yds - 29 TDs - 6 Int
Rushing - 65 carries - 515 yds - 14 Tds

Manning
Passing - 115 of 186 - 1371 yds - 17 TD - 4 Int
Rushing - 33 carries - 310 yds - 5 Tds

https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/arch-manning/MwHTOHBpEemA0ZFtwg1OMQ/football/stats.htm

Level of competition is unequal; Zachary is a 5A Public school with 1,581 students in grades 9-12; Newman is a private school with 917 students in grades PK, K-12.


Isidore Newman Enrollment Grades 9-12
Nineth - 97
Tenth - 78
Eleventh - 73
Twelfth - 66

Gender - 55% male - 45% Female

314 students; approximately 172 males in grades 9-12.
https://www.homefacts.com/schools/Louisiana/Orleans-Parish/New-Orleans/Isidore-Newman-School.html

Basically, Arch just had to walk out on the field to become QB1 as a HS Fresh.

Not saying he doesn't have talent, Saban, Smart, Fisher, etc. not stupid & there is a reason why every SEC school wants him, but IMO, his last name adds quite a bit to his resume.

US Census shows Zachary, La has a population of 19,316 & that East Baton Rouge Parish has several other high schools with enrollments the same or larger than Zachary giving them excellent competition.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/louisiana/rankings/baton-rouge-la-12940


FYI - Jacksonville, Bolles - Total: 1,712; Upper School: 818; Middle School: 417; Lower School: 477.
I have 0 idea on which QB is better. Zero idea if Arch will end up being as good as Eli or Peyton. Zero idea is Isadore Newman is better than Zachary.

I do know in my area numerous private high schools offer scholarships (financial aid) to athletes and although those schools have small enrollment numbers, the athletic competition is just as good as if not better than the public schools with large enrollment.

Christian Brothers High School, Memphis University School, Briarcrest Christian School, and Lausanne produce winning teams and prospects in numerous sports. They all have small enrollment numbers.

I remember a poster or two on here discounting Will Grier's ability because he went to a Day school. He had a decent college career and a good portion of a season for UF.

As stated I have no idea which QB will be better. All I know is I don't discount talent due to enrollment numbers.
 
I still don't see what all the chasing after Arch is for, looking at his HS stats....
And with all the guys already on the roster for 2023, I can't see Arch wanting to come to UF to compete.

2022 QB Max Brown 6-3 200 tFr (summer arrival)
Passing - 167 of 235, 71.1% for 2,750 Yds, 41 TD's to 4 Ints.
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Rushing - 173 for 1,343 yds, 7.8 ypc, 20 TD's, 1 LPF. 😮
HS Sr Tot-Off = 4,093 Yds, 61 TD's to 5 TO's 😲

Go watch his highlight film and tell me you'd want to come in to compete with Max if you were Arch.
 
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I still don't see what all the chasing after Arch is for, looking at his HS stats....
And with all the guys already on the roster for 2023, I can't see Arch wanting to come to UF to compete.

2022 QB Max Brown 6-3 200 tFr (summer arrival)
Passing 71%, 41 TD's to 4 Ints.
😮
Rushing - 173 for 1,343 yds, 7.8 ypc, 20 TD's, 1 LPF. 😮
HS Sr Tot-Off = 4,000+ Yds, 61 TD's to 5 TO's 😲

Go watch is highlight film and tell me you'd want to come in to compete with Max if you were Arch.
I like the Brown kid. I said before I thought he was underrated. Our QB room looks pretty good.
 
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Eli looks better than Arch, but neither look as good as Max.

Eli Holstein HS Jr season, 15 Gms:
Passing - 203 of 312, 65.1% for 3,264 Yds, 29 TD's, 6 Ints, L-82
Rushing - 65 for 515 yds, 14 TD's, 7.9 ypc, L-53, 4 Fum, 3 LPF
Total Off - 377 for 3,779 yds, 43 TD's, 9 Turnovers.
 
Depth needs in 2023 recruiting: OL - LB - WR

TE is thin for spring due to injuries, but with 3 Fr coming in the summer, by Fall practice the TE's should be good to go.
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CB - Hill, Helm Pouncey Marshall, Kimber, Young, Moore - 2023 Gates

S's - Dean, Perkins, Johnson, Torrence, McDaniel, McMillion, Wilcoxson, D-Mitchell, Collier, Wilson, M-Mitchell - So loaded that Graham to slot-WR.

Just a no importance suggestion, if that makes sense... But ole Nappy needs to take the phrase 'if that makes sense' out of his coach speech inventory....
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