Not according to the Jews or the Muslims.Is Jesus the son of God?
Not according to the Jews or the Muslims.Is Jesus the son of God?
Can you believe in a God that might allow both to be true while allowing neither to be true to another 1.5 billion people?
Not according to the Jews or the Muslims.
Somebody has to be right, and somebody has to be wrong.Agree.
I'm not sure how that changes our discussion however.
I respect that. I believe in a God that transcends man made religion, which I view as man's imperfect attempt to understand God. As such, I have less issue struggling with religious dogma. That said, it is a matter of personal faith, and my beliefs are not better than yours as they are a personal matter.Agree to disagree.
Jeremiah 1:5
“I knew you before I formed you in your mother’s womb. Before you were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.”
Only to the religiously dogmatic. Dogma in man made expressions of faith in God is dangerous.Somebody has to be right, and somebody has to be wrong.
Good thing I believe man made God in his own image.Only to the religiously dogmatic. Dogma in man made expressions of faith in God is dangerous.
Somebody has to be right, and somebody has to be wrong.
I respect that. I believe in a God that transcends man made religion, which I view as man's imperfect attempt to understand God. As such, I have less issue struggling with religious dogma. That said, it is a matter of personal faith, and my beliefs are not better than yours as they are a personal matter.
I am, however, not a fan of one religion vilifying another for their expression of faith in God, be it Christians or Muslims.
Consider half the world is Muslim or Hindu, plus the Jew's and the multiple flavors of Christianity, some is going to be dissapointed on judgement day. There was a really good South Park episode about this.I accept those terms as well. It's not me who is right btw.
So, what do you call 65 million aborted babies? That is certainly not supporting life.Believing in something bigger than you is, IMO, extremely important for not just your life, but society as a whole. But, organized religion has killed more people in history, by far, more than anything else , it preys on the poor and indigent as an opioid for the masses and its thrives in hypocrisy so because of that I'm an agnostic. This is just my opinion in case it makes some people get angry
Only to the religiously dogmatic. Dogma in man made expressions of faith in God is dangerous.
Consider half the world is Muslim or Hindu, plus the Jew's and the multiple flavors of Christianity, some is going to be dissapointed on judgement day. There was a really good South Park episode about this.
Be honest, how would you feel if you were part of the "wrong" religion?Agree. It's not a popular vote though. Majority doesn't rule.
I accept that people believe otherwise. It simply doesn't change anything.
Be honest, how would you feel if you were part of the "wrong" religion?
The common thread here is they also have faith in Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Buddha, etc. Like I said, only one group can be correct.What difference would it make how I feel? I have no authority on the subject.
Again, I'm not making a judgment on any level. If I didn't believe as I do on the subject, I simply would not be a Christian.
I accept that "they" believe that I am wrong and that I may be going to whatever they call hell. My faith tells me otherwise.
I cannot be saved without Christ.
OK then I respect your viewpoint and I respectfully disagree.
There is nothing inconsistent with your beliefs and my beliefs. I agree there is no Christianity without Christ this is there is no Islam without Mohammed. I also believe it it’s not my place to judge who will be damned and he will be saved. My only issue, and it is not you said it, is with those that believe if you’re not a Christian you were automatically condemned to hell.There is no Christianity without Christ.
And I am not (nor have I ever) vilifying another religion. It's not up to me. The judgement is not mine to make.
Christ told us there is no way to the Father except through him.There is nothing inconsistent with your beliefs and my beliefs. I agree there is no Christianity without Christ this is there is no Islam without Mohammed. I also believe it it’s not my place to judge who will be damned and he will be saved. My only issue, and it is not you said it, is with those that believe if you’re not a Christian you were automatically condemned to hell.
You can quote scripture written by man all day long, not gonna change my beliefs and I’m not here to change yours..Christ told us there is no way to the Father except through him.
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 14:6
I wasn't trying to change your mind, I was defending Christ and his Word.You can quote scripture written by man all day long, not gonna change my beliefs and I’m not here to change yours..![]()
You don’t need to defend it with me. I’m not attacking it. I just respectfully disagree with the divinity of Who actually wrote it.I wasn't trying to change your mind, I was defending Christ and his Word.
Mao believed the same.
...and then he murdered the masses.
Another dem in hiding.
Slavery was not originated by Christians, Sir.And Hitler was a devout Roman Catholic, and he murdered masses. Slavery and the genocide of Native Americans which killed more than 60 million that we can count was done in the name of Christianity. I'm a history professor, if you would like to play this game about "who has killed more" we can do that and you'll lose but i didn't make my comment to do that, nor is it what i want, which is why i wrote at the end "this is just my opinion".
Slavery was not originated by Christians, Sir.
You gotta always take it with a grain of salt because I didn't think he said it but that's Facebook for you. I just like the story.First of all I believe in God. Second of all I believe in God as matter of faith. Third Albert Einstein having this conversation with his professor was De-Bunk’d back in 2004. Fourth the story first appeared in 1997 and at that time it was not attributed to Albert Einstein, that was added by somebody some years later. There’s also a distinct fallacy in the argument being attempted, because you cannot see, feel, touch or smell the brain, but you can hear the brain in the conversation. The production of language, particularly in a pattern of coherent thoughts, is direct evidence of the brain through one of the five senses.
PS I always like the story though.
By the way Albert Einstein did actually say this……in 1925, Too a young promising student.
..
![]()
Did you read my post on atheism? I can post it again for you if you'd like.I am probably best described as an “agnostic theist.”
My perspective changed when I considered that if we are nothing more than deterministic chemical reactions, why are we aware of anything? That we are aware of anything at all implies to me that something about us must exist outside of a strictly materialist universe. Otherwise, it seems there would be nothing to experience sensation or awareness.
Whether that “something” should be called a soul, or a higher power, I don’t know. But, it’s not nothing. So it must be something.
Note: This is something I posted a few months ago. My beliefs haven’t changed, so I’m reusing it.
It’s a good story. It highlights the most important thing for everybody to remember which is God is a matter of faith and science as a matter of the scientific method and proof. The two should never be confused. But in the bigger picture I’ve always viewed science as man’s attempt to better understand God‘s thoughts and there’s a lot of faith in science too. So the scientist should never hold themselves above God or faith, and the best scientist know that.You gotta always take it with a grain of salt because I didn't think he said it but that's Facebook for you. I just like the story.
You've got to believe God is merciful. I too had that thought but we are thinking as humans and not as God thinks.So roughly a little over 2 billion Muslims that believe in God are all going to hell, mostly due to Nothing more than location of birth?
Pretty much my point as well.You've got to believe God is merciful. I too had that thought but we are thinking as humans and not as God thinks.
Why would the ways of men change your perspective on God? There is also evil and Satan. He's attractive to the human mind and the best of liars.Believing in something bigger than you is, IMO, extremely important for not just your life, but society as a whole. But, organized religion has killed more people in history, by far, more than anything else , it preys on the poor and indigent as an opioid for the masses and its thrives in hypocrisy so because of that I'm an agnostic. This is just my opinion in case it makes some people get angry
Because people say they're Christian it doesn't demean Christ or his word. There are many wolves in sheep's clothing.I never said it was originated by Christians - I said slavery from Africa to this country by the Europeans was done in the name of Christianity - they literally said this was God's will . Slavery, in one form or another, has existed since the beginning of man
Allah is related to the Hebrew word Elohim, which means the God, which is it's literal translation in Arabic. Since Islam is an Arab religion , it would make more sense to use their translation.Allah in Hebrew means curse. He is the moon god of Arabia and predated Mohamed. He had children. After Islam he became childless.
Gods name is Yaweh as the Father and Yehoshua as the Son.
Written by man, inspired by God.You can quote scripture written by man all day long, not gonna change my beliefs and I’m not here to change yours..![]()
Islam is a false religion and an anti-christ religion if not the religion of the Antichrist himself. I use the Hebrew because that was the language of Abraham and Israel. If it means curse in Hebrew then that is revealing as to the nature of the being in question. Allah is a false god not to be confused with Yaweh/Yeshua/Yehoshua.Allah is related to the Hebrew word Elohim, which means the God, which is it's literal translation in Arabic. Since Islam is an Arab religion , it would make more sense to use their translation.
AmenI wasn't trying to change your mind, I was defending Christ and his Word.