Disney/ESPN Fires 2 Major NFL Analysts for Speaking Truth
- Thread starter ocalaman
- Start date
When did Ponder and RG III speak out about men in women’s sports? I know Ponder said some things but did she say something recently?
RG 3 ran his mouth towards Paul Finebaum about FSU and was fired the next day
ftw.usatoday.com
Everything we know so far about ESPN firing Robert Griffin III and Sam Ponder
Money is the root of the problem.
ftw.usatoday.com
Sam Ponder, RGIII both terminated after each spoke out against male transwomen competing in women’s sports. Sage Steele was dispatched for the same reason. The connection of faith and friendship between Sage and Sam is strong. It’s easy to find on the internet. ESPN belongs to Disney. Should be no surprise.
sadgator willingly volunteers to personally check to verify that Sam Ponder is actually a woman.
Well, you’ve started the day oh-for-one. RGIII, in fact, did voice his objection to transgendered males in women’s sports. Sage and Samantha have made it clear that they endured a difficult employer that applies leftward pressure on employees. All three including RGIII are more than nominally Christians, out of step with the direction of our culture. Interestingly, not one of the three has made this into a political MAGA moment. This week Kirk Herbstreit took the same stance Sage, Samantha and RGIII did.
The male and female bodies are anatomical and physically different (obviously). So much so some have suggested we are almost like two different species. You can perform surgery to superficially change the appearance along with some drugs but to allow a surgically altered male (or female) to complete as such is ludicrous IMHO.
Please post a link to the specific comment RGIII made…he spoke in favor of the boxer everyone is saying was a dude…sadgator will wait for any other specific comments you can find.
Oh and by the way, it is ESPN’s end of fiscal year, the same time of year they have had mass firings in the past…but that couldn’t be it, because we have to be outraged about this, correct?
Oh and by the way, it is ESPN’s end of fiscal year, the same time of year they have had mass firings in the past…but that couldn’t be it, because we have to be outraged about this, correct?
Last edited:
And let’s be honest…raise your hand if you even knew that Samantha Ponder was the host of NFL Primetime or have ever even watched that show with her.
Outrage!!!!!!!!!
Outrage!!!!!!!!!
It would be AWESOME if ESPN replaced Ponder with that Dylan Mulvaney dude as host of NFL Primetime.
sadgator would totally watch that…it would be must see tv…
sadgator would totally watch that…it would be must see tv…
If we are all really lucky, this firing is will inspire Ponder to feel rebellious and she’ll pull a Holly Sonders…
Last edited:
RG3 seemed ok. I never cared for him too much but he seemed to take his job seriously.
Ponder getting fired is a little weird. She’s host of nfl prime time and I believe the gameday show and was fired 3 weeks before the season starts, apparently with no replacement lined up.
Ponder getting fired is a little weird. She’s host of nfl prime time and I believe the gameday show and was fired 3 weeks before the season starts, apparently with no replacement lined up.
They did the exact same thing almost exactly a year ago in this same timeframe due to year end…
But now it’s political because MAGA tells us to be outraged.
https://deadline.com/2023/07/espn-layoffs-list-talent-fired-1235428485/amp/
How is that the same thing? It wasn’t just prior to the season start, they had replacements lined up and NBA generates about 5 percent of the ratings of NFL. Firing the host of your NFL Sunday pregame three weeks before the season without a replacement lined up suggests something out of the ordinary took place. If it was “cost-cutting” presumably there would be a plan in place. I don’t know if it’s because Ponder tweeted the XX/XY thing, but it’s certainly a possibility.
And my observations aren’t driven by MAGA. I think Trump is a clown, who unfortunately is the ONLY person raising questions about the very questionable path this country is headed down. I’m an intelligent person, who can think objectively. You might ask yourself if you’re driven by MAGA.
Maybe people who identify with Trump and MAGA reacted to those dismissals. More likely they are among those of us who are troubled by the repressive actions of ESPN. I am not part of MAGA, have never been a Trump fan. I find myself voting against candidates rather than voting for their opponents.
To sadgator, re: the Olympic boxer amid the controversy, it’s been confirmed she was a biological female. Born that way.
Bas anyone noted that the Amerjcan Society of Plastic Surgeons this week came out in opposition to surgeries on genitalia and chests for children and adolescents? This professional group claims the membership of 97% of all plastic surgeons. They advocate psychotherapy instead. During early years of puberty a high percentage of children cintend with doubts about their sexuality. Statistically almost 100 per cent are heterosexually affirmed by their late teens unless outside influencers get involved. Plastic surgeons can make more money off these procedures ghan any other dictors.
Johns Hopkins Medicical was an early practitioner of gender-altering surgeries beginning in the 1960s. As the best medical institutions diligently do, Johns Hopkins kept up with its former patients who had been administered the surgeries. Their self-evaluations if happiness were lower than their peers as adults. Their need for ongoing medical care was very high, and their suicide rate soared. By the late 1970s Johns Hopkins banned such surgeries.
This movement for transgendering in our country is as political as can be. That it is educational, programmed and medical child abuse and now frequently mutilation is the underlying issue. We could develop a third trac of transgender athletic competition and resolve much of these debates. But the advocacy at the expense of youngsters that create lifetime consequences is of far deeper, more consequential importance and a serious threat to our society.
To sadgator, re: the Olympic boxer amid the controversy, it’s been confirmed she was a biological female. Born that way.
Bas anyone noted that the Amerjcan Society of Plastic Surgeons this week came out in opposition to surgeries on genitalia and chests for children and adolescents? This professional group claims the membership of 97% of all plastic surgeons. They advocate psychotherapy instead. During early years of puberty a high percentage of children cintend with doubts about their sexuality. Statistically almost 100 per cent are heterosexually affirmed by their late teens unless outside influencers get involved. Plastic surgeons can make more money off these procedures ghan any other dictors.
Johns Hopkins Medicical was an early practitioner of gender-altering surgeries beginning in the 1960s. As the best medical institutions diligently do, Johns Hopkins kept up with its former patients who had been administered the surgeries. Their self-evaluations if happiness were lower than their peers as adults. Their need for ongoing medical care was very high, and their suicide rate soared. By the late 1970s Johns Hopkins banned such surgeries.
This movement for transgendering in our country is as political as can be. That it is educational, programmed and medical child abuse and now frequently mutilation is the underlying issue. We could develop a third trac of transgender athletic competition and resolve much of these debates. But the advocacy at the expense of youngsters that create lifetime consequences is of far deeper, more consequential importance and a serious threat to our society.
This country is $35 trillion in debt (we went another $100 billion in yesterday); we’re letting in (importing would be a better term) 200,000 unidentified, undocumented immigrants per month, we spend hundreds of billions a year on endless wars everywhere, and if you bring any of this up you’re “brainwashed by MAGA” and/or racist.
If you ask what this has to do with Disney, the above does not happen without sophisticated marketing and propaganda, and if you doubt that then you are the one who is brainwashed.
If you ask what this has to do with Disney, the above does not happen without sophisticated marketing and propaganda, and if you doubt that then you are the one who is brainwashed.
Pushing irreversible hormones and/or surgery on kids is ghoulish on its own. And additionally the issue is one of many similarly divisive issues intended to distract everyone from the absolute looting and hollowing out of our country that I referenced above.
Last edited:
I actually think the boxer is a complicated case. Born a woman but with genetic makeup close to a man. I read that the genetic difference basically gives her a 2/1 strength advantage. But I’m sure if you look at athletes like Lebron, Michael Phelps, Usain Bolt, these guys probably have enormous genetic and biological advantages over baseline males.
Completely different question when you’re talking about people born men, and in many cases in the NCAA, still men, competing as women. Not just that but forcing women to share locker rooms and showers with them. It’s complete insanity, and we need to move past the easy rationalizations (this is all fine; the complainers are just all MAGA bigots) and have some common sense conversations.
If anyone is interested, Google search American Society of Plastic Surgeons News. The UK’s Cass Report gas all but destroyed the “gender care” there. Numerous progressively inclined European nations have outlawed such surgeries as well as hormone blockers et al for anyone under 18. Ours in now the only Western country so engaged. We have doctors performing double-mastectomies on girls age 12.5 and younger! Why isn’t our self-righteous media talking about these things? Why is one political party bent on destroying children’s futurs? It’s ghoulish; it’s reprehensible; it’s devilish.
I am really hoping the next time we have a Republican president we see some outrage over the deficit. It's just odd that when Republicans take power it's all about "lowering taxes on the poor unloved wealthy" and if that increases the deficit, well, we just won't talk about that.
Give me a Republican who comes in and says "we are going to tackle the deficit, we will raise taxes on the wealthy, slash the out of control military budget, and reduce working poor Americans' reliance on social programs by forcing companies to pay a living wage". That person would get my vote (oh wait, that's what Democrats are fighting Republican resistance to accomplish, so I guess I'll be voting for a Democrat). But all this "let's see what moral outrages we can concoct to vilify the other side so we can get in power and cut all our friends taxes", not so much.
I didn't realize Democrats were the party in power in the UK. Please enlighten us more oh wise one.
You said it. It’s not a party issue currently except for the moral/identity stuff. Both are looking to give the US taxpayer as thorough a screwing as possible.
Neither Republicans or Democrats seem to care a whit about the mounting national deficit nor in making the tough decisions to do something about it. Eventually the economic weight and basic accounting principles of this unrealistic debt is going to collapse the dollar and the country with it and the time frame for getting a fix in place is running out. I can't in good conscience be a member of either party. Instead, I'm registered to the Constitution Party of Florida, meaning I can't vote in party primaries. I'm a fiscal conservative with libertarian leanings in some areas. Both political parties have sold out to special interests and seem to be OK with moving this country away from a Constitutional Republic (America was never intended to be a democracy) towards a type of state-controlled socialism that will eventually lead to totalitarianism, IMO. One party seems to want us to take the fast lane to that end, the other side is fine with slow-walking us there, both sides pretending in their own ways that they are "for the people", while really working to build their mini-empires in D.C. and padding their pockets by doing the bidding of the lobbyists writing the checks. I'm not a huge fan of Donald Trump, but will certainly be voting for him over the far, far leftist Kamala Harris. I'm not for government price controls, nor government mandated pay scales. Every time the government gets involved in just about anything, things get less efficient and more expensive, plus the bureaucracy around it all just gets bigger and bigger. I, also, hate the multi-national corporations that put their worldwide interests over those of our citizens and, also, despise those in our country who kowtow to the dictates of the United Nations, WHO and other global co-ops that want our people to pay for everything and subject our national interests to those of the collective, many of whom want to destroy us. I'm for less government, less government intrusion into our lives and less redundancy in the bureaucracy and military. We need an end to never-ending involvement in overseas wars and need to abandon the concept that we are the policeman of the world. The federal government should focus on its main objective of keeping AMERICANS safe from threats both within and without our borders, meaning we need to re-establish and maintain secure borders. The government was never intended to be the vehicle by which wealth is redistributed by the whims of those in power, but that's the way our system now works.
As far as who pays the taxes, The Tax Foundation reports in March of 2024 that IRS data released for 2021 shows that the average income tax rate across all levels was 14.9%. The top 1% of earners paid a 25.9% average tax rate, while the bottom 50% of the taxpaying public only paid an average rate of 3.3%. The top 50% of all taxpayers paid 97.7% of all income taxes (which includes capital gains tax), while the bottom 50% only paid the remaining 2.3%. The top 1% paid 45.8% of all income taxes, the top 5% paid 65.6% and the top 10% paid 75.8%. And yet many say the rich need to pay more. I understand the envy, but the argument isn't sound. You could tax the top 1% 100% of their income and it wouldn't make a dent in the national debt. And the poor aren't asked to pay anything - in fact, we the people keep giving them more and more and more. It's the middle class who ALWAYS gets soaked and more and more of us in that category are being driven into the lower class. It's fast becoming a nation of haves and have-nots, as I think one of the long term intents is to wipe out the middle class so that the remaining elite rich will be in charge and everybody else will be obedient servants. https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/latest-federal-income-tax-data-2024/
As a retired IRS employee I say from experience that the US tax system is so screwed up that it needs to be eliminated and replaced with a sales tax-based system. So much earned income today is not reported, is off the books, under the table, income from illegal activities, etc., etc. Taxing us when we spend our money instead of trying to tax us when we earn it would reward people for saving and bring ALL income into the taxpaying system. There could be tax exemptions for basic necessities so that poor people don't get overly taxed, but it would be a much fairer and inclusive system than the one currently in place. A major problem now is that fewer and fewer people are paying into the system than those who are taking from it. A country that robs Peter to pay Paul will soon collapse when there are more Pauls than Peters and we're already there. We're in a mess and I see it getting worse instead of better. I'm an old man, so am not really worried about me. But we have 4 grandkids, all 10 and younger, and their future concerns me deeply.
Last edited:
Even though she married a Nole, I liked Sam. They canned her but, keep people like Rex Ryan? R.G. III is no surprise to me as I thought he wasn’t that great on the few college games I saw him on. Meanwhile Bob Iger continues to make the big Chiluppas as Disney’s C.E.O.
Outside of watching a live event on ESPN I haven't watched ESPN in 8-10 years. I can't do them anymore
