Chip Kelly will be available for 2018 season?

[Michi-Gator]

Michi's BS:

2014 Musclecramp had the #8 Total D
With him gone, Mc-Collins D will go in the dumpster.

2015 Mc-Collisn D was #8 in the Nation, then 5 went to the NFL
With them gone, Mc-Collins D will now really go in the dumpster.

2016 Instead the Mc-Collins D moved up to the #6 in Total D.
(so wrong again moe-ron)

With 9 more gone and not a single replacement brought in over the last 3 classes they're really gonna be doomed now. ~ But tell me genius, is it a plus or a minus that the crappy DC Collins is gone now?
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#12 DE Zachary Carter 6-5 251 **** - Tampa - ESPN 300

#23 CB Marco Wilson 6-0 180 **** - Plantation - ESPN 300

#24 CB Shawn Davis 6-0 190 **** - Miami - ESPN 300

#25 CB Elijah Blades 6-2 170 **** - Pasadena, Ca - ESPN 300

#26 Ath-CB Kadarius Toney 6-0 177 **** - Prichard, Ala

#35 DT Kyree Campbell 6-5 320 **** - Woodbridge, Va - (Prep flip from NC)

DC-LB'ers Randy Shannon evaluated and recruited these two:

#37 OLB James Houston IV 6-1 226 *** - Plantation

#42 OLB Ventrell Miller 6-0 227 *** - Lakeland
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#2 DE Antonneous Clayton 6-3 220 **** - Vienna, Ga - ESPN 300

#4 FS/CB Chauncey Gardener 5-11 204 **** - Cocoa - ESPN 300

#29 DE Jordan Smith 6-5 240 **** - Lithonia, Ga - ESPN 300

#21 SS Quincy Lenton 5-11 202 **** - Meridian, Ms

#17 OLB Vosean Joseph 6-1 226 **** - Miami (bowl starter)

#24 OLB Jeremiah Moon 6-4 218 **** - Hoover, Ala

#26 ILB David Reese 6-1 230 *** - Farmington, Mich (monster Fr)

#47 DE Jachai Polite 6-2 271 **** - Daytona Beach

#39 SS Jeawon Taylor 6-1 195 *** - Montgomery, Ala

#51 CB/RB McArthur Burnett 5-9 174 *** - Pahokee

#81 CB C.J. McWilliams 5-11 171 *** - Miami

JC CB Joseph Putu 6-2 195 *** - Providence, RI
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#2 DE/DT CeCe Jefferson 6-1 261 ***** - Glen St. Mary - ESPN 300

#58 Ath/CB Chris Williamson 5-11 191 *** - Gainesville, Ga

#45 DT/DE Jabari Zuniga 6-3 245 *** - Marietta, Ga (sack-master)

#62 OLB Rayshad Jackson 6-0 226 *** - Miami

#80 SS/LB Kylan Johnson 6-1 231 *** - Dallas, Tx (rsFr starter)

#138 DE Keivonnis Davis 6-4 241 *** - Miami

#148 DE Luke Ancrum 6-5 262 *** - Sebring
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I have to admit to not being a bit worried about the Gator D for 2017.

So 1 DT except the 2 DE you are conveinently moving to DT. Should bode well for us

 

[46885]

 

[46885]

 

[fsu939913]

Please gawd Iowa let there be a close win for the gators

 

[fsu939913]

If Kelly gets fired after today like it sounds like might happen he will probably be available for the 2018 season. Unless Mac really rights the ship and doesn't lose 4 or more games again I think you have to go after a proven college head coach like that despite the money it will take.

I am trying to think what big programs could fire their coach after next season and could compete with us for Kelly. Notre Dame possibly? I think Auburn would consider it if they have another 4 loss season. Did LSU set it up where they could fire their coach easily after a year?

I dont think kelly has any interest in coaching in Florida but u nvr know

 

[Michi-Gator]

I hope kelly doesn't has any interest in coaching in Florida but u nvr know

FIFY

 

[instaGATOR]

I'm sorry (at least you got that much right),,,,, McElwain is pretty damn average.
He's out of touch, not even HC cool and can't recruit in friggin FLORIDA.

He's a MWC type coach IMO.
~ 0-4 SECe-C Butch Jones (Head-BJ) is the MAC type.
And BJ's had 2 Top 5 rated recruit classes,,, so much for that...

BTW, even Muschamp was SEC COTY before.

~ Yeah, and the musclecramp was also 0-4 on being the SECe-C, not 2-0.

So 1 DT except the 2 DE you are conveinently moving to DT. Should bode well for us

You're a cherry pickin' idiot, as usual. I listed those that Mc brought in, not all that are here.
DT Caleb Brantley 6-2 297 rsSr (unannounced, but a likely ED to NFL)

DT/NT Khairi Clark 6-2 319 rsJr
DT Taven Bryan 6-5 293 rsJr (came in as a DE)
DT/DE CeCe Jefferson 6-1 261 Jr (the coaches designated him as both)
DT Jachai Polite 6-2 271 So
DT/NT Kyree Campbell 6-5 320 Fr

And yes, some of the DE's will likely grow into DT's, some always do.
The highly talented ones like CeCe can and will play both depending on the opponent.

Jabari Zuniga was listed as a 6-3 265 DT recruit that instead slim-ed down to a DE, but he could still play DT eventually if that's best for him, or he could be another hybrid DE/DT like so many Gators before him have been.
DE Luke Ancrum 6-5 262 is another that might go up to a DT like Taven Bryan has.

So, are you really this clueless, of just continuing to be the usual board dic...

 

[Gator Fever]

Nick Wagoner

The 49ers season finally, mercifully came to an end with Sunday's 25-23 loss to the Seattle Seahawks. The Niners end the year with a 2-14 record and now head into an offseason full of question marks. Sweeping changes are expected soon, including the dismissal of GM Trent Baalke and coach Chip Kelly. And upon hiring their replacements, the Niners will truly begin a rebuild that really should have started three years ago.

 

[tnole903]

Its called fear on the part of the Noles. Not one Nole alive wants to see this happen.

Meh...I would take our 10 years of coaching relationships against any staff in the recruiting area. Plus, still don't think what Kelly does would be successful in football in the Southeast. His style of play is best suited for Big 12 or PAC 12. But bring it. Doesn't scare me, but might bring some interest back in the rivalry, which has a pretty bleak outlook right now.

 

[Gator Fever]

Meh...I would take our 10 years of coaching relationships against any staff in the recruiting area. Plus, still don't think what Kelly does would be successful in football in the Southeast. His style of play is best suited for Big 12 or PAC 12. But bring it. Doesn't scare me, but might bring some interest back in the rivalry, which has a pretty bleak outlook right now.

I heard the same thing when Meyer came here from Utah.

 

[instaGATOR]

Cow-Chip Kelly ran the Eagles into the dirt, and then he ran the 49'ers even further into the dirt. I wouldn't hire him to head up the SWAMP post-game clean up crew, much less into any coaching position. Anyone that hires him deserves whatever happens to their program. Personally, I'm hoping that the neutered lame fire the Jelly-Belly-Kelly, and then hire the Cow-Chip Kelly to replace him...

 

[Gator Fever]

Cow-Chip Kelly ran the Eagles into the dirt, and then he ran the 49'ers even further into the dirt. I wouldn't hire him to head up the SWAMP post-game clean up crew, much less into any coaching position. Anyone that hires him deserves whatever happens to their program. Personally, I'm hoping that the neutered lame fire the Jelly-Belly-Kelly, and then hire the Cow-Chip Kelly to replace him...

I could care less about the pros.

He won his conference a bunch and some BCS games I think. As the OC he turned that offense around immediately and won 3 straight outright PAC 10/12 conference championships as a head coach. He was the first PAC 10/12 coach to ever win the conference outright as a first year head coach. He would have played for the national championship a 2nd time if his kicker could have made a field goal in a couple of tries against Stanford.

 

[instaGATOR]

So, a mediocre LAC 10-12 coach that would not even be given the job back at Oregon is your idea of a good replacement for Mc? LMFAO now....

 

[tnole903]

I heard the same thing when Meyer came here from Utah.

Meyer is the second best coach in a lifetime and even then, he doesn't have the run he had at UF were Jimbo in place. Kelly is no Meyer. Not as a coach. Not as a recruiter. Jimbo is a top 5 coach in the country right now. The bar is high. I have little fear of what UF brings in as long as Jimbo is in Tally. The coach that would scare me is an elite recruiter with SE ties....i.e. a Dabo Sweeney. Chip Kelly would be on the hot seat at UF before he even cracked the recruiting infrastructure we have right now.

 

[instaGATOR]

UF would probably have to hire Ted Turner or a Bill Gates to have a shot at out bidding the FSUcks, Bama, tOSU's of the recruit buying world right now imo, so Mc will do as most anyone else for UF for now.

You see, that's the thing about being a long time NCAA cheater. After a while, they can learn enough and eventually get very good at it. And after learning all of the in's and out's of a competent bag man, competing with them becomes nearly impossible....

UF will just have to content itself with the ones that just want a great education and a good shot at an NFL paycheck. College championships are going to be at a premium under the present system.

 

[MadRappa]

Tray Bishop just committed to UGA.

If you combined the UF and UGA classes, the top 10 players are all Dawgs.

McElwain is not even on Dabo Swinney's level.

 

[MadRappa]

~ Yeah, and the musclecramp was also 0-4 on being the SECe-C, not 2-0.

Yeah we won the SEC East! What has that done for us? Are recruits excited about that? NO! Are the fans excited NO!

McEltooth is supposed to be an offensive guru and he can't field an offense ranked better than 105th.

Stricklin needs to start working on Kelly, Fleck or Fedora. McElwain is finishing the tank job Foley and Muschamp started.

 

[oozie7]

Cow-Chip Kelly ran the Eagles into the dirt, and then he ran the 49'ers even further into the dirt. I wouldn't hire him to head up the SWAMP post-game clean up crew, much less into any coaching position. Anyone that hires him deserves whatever happens to their program. Personally, I'm hoping that the neutered lame fire the Jelly-Belly-Kelly, and then hire the Cow-Chip Kelly to replace him...

Define 'ran into the dirt.'

Kelly took over a 4-12 Eagles team and took them to 10-6 in year one with a top 5 offense and a division title, only the second coach in NFL history to win a division in his first season. For anybody who can do basic math that's a 6-game turnaround. The next year they went 9-7 and again had one of the best offenses in the NFL. And he did this with a reject Sam Bradford. He had one mediocre season in Philly went he went 7-8 and was let go because him and the GM couldn't stand each other and he wanted GM power, he wasn't fired for performance. And the 49ers were 5-11 last year and then got rid of a bunch of people in a rebuild. He didn't run them into the dirt either. If anything he was stupid for taking a bad job with no QB on the roster, it had disaster written all over it.

For perspective, Kelly has had more NFL success than coaches like Saban and Spurrier. Anybody who wouldn't take him in college is just dumb. The guy went 46-7 at Oregon with a bunch of reject recruits and went to a BCS game four straight years. That's an 87% winning %, only Saban right now in college has a higher win %. You wouldn't know a good coach if they slapped the hell out of you.

 

[tnole903]

@oozie7 Do you believe that Kelly could "take a bunch of rejects" and win at UF?

 

[oozie7]

@oozie7 Do you believe that Kelly could "take a bunch of rejects" and win at UF?

I think he'd win at UF yea. Only question would be who he hires for defense and whether he could recruit at an elite level or not. He's kinda like spurrier in that in that he doesn't like kissing ass and relies on his system. Not a huge fan of that but at least he's gotten result from that system everywhere so hard to knock it. At a minimum I know our skill positions would be stacked.

 

[Michi-Gator]

Meyer is the second best coach in a lifetime and even then, he doesn't have the run he had at UF were Jimbo in place. Kelly is no Meyer. Not as a coach. Not as a recruiter. Jimbo is a top 5 coach in the country right now. The bar is high. I have little fear of what UF brings in as long as Jimbo is in Tally. The coach that would scare me is an elite recruiter with SE ties....i.e. a Dabo Sweeney. Chip Kelly would be on the hot seat at UF before he even cracked the recruiting infrastructure we have right now.

Dude, Jimbo is Jamies and a bunch of average seasons with terrible losses. No one is running scared of Jimbo.

 

[hardliner]

5 major bowls in a row= bunch of average seasons

Yeah OK.

Meyer seems to be backsliding. Maybe you can get him again.

 

[MadRappa]

Jimbo is 17-1 vs state of Florida.

 

[Dannygator1989]

Jimbo has never lost to UF or Miami.

Is that a fact?

 

[Dannygator1989]

I heard the same thing when Meyer came here from Utah.

So, a mediocre LAC 10-12 coach that would not even be given the job back at Oregon is your idea of a good replacement for Mc? LMFAO now....

Chip Kelly's became OC at Oregon in 2007 after they went 7-6 the year before.

As OC, they went 9-4 and 10-3, winning bowl games both years, after having not won a bowl game at all since 2001.

As head coach he went:

2009 10-3
2010 12-1
2011 12-2
2012 12-1


Going to BCS games each year, including the BCSNCG.

They went 2-2 in those games, winning the last two and barely losing the title game.

Also finished in the top 4 each time.


That is the measure of mediocre? Wow.



As for the Meyer comment, the SEC was a whole different world back then. That style of offense had t been seen yet. Now it's much more well-known.

 

[MadRappa]

Is that a fact?

Doesn't matter we're damn near irrelevant anyway,

 

[tnole903]

Is that a fact?

no, but close

 

[tnole903]

Dude, Jimbo is Jamies and a bunch of average seasons with terrible losses. No one is running scared of Jimbo.

You should be so average.
http://www.coacheshotseat.com/WinningestActiveCoachesIA.htm

I will say it again. The core of Jimbo Fisher's championship team was formed under Urban Meyer's nose, outworking and out recruiting Meyer....beating out Meyer for kids like Joyner and Greg Dent....and kids who wanted to be Gators, like Bjorn Werner, but Meyer didn't know what he was looking at. You can rag on Jimbo all you want....the guy is an elite recruiter...an elite judge of talent and his guys show up to big games. There are not many Jimbo Fisher's out there....we are not going to be worried about a coach who will take 2 years just to learn the in-state HS coaches' names, let alone the kids with whom Jimbo has had relationships since they were 12. .

 

[sadgator]

1. Unless Mac decides to voluntarily leave, he will be here for at least two more seasons.

2. Kelly isn't coming to Gainesville. He'll wind up somewhere in the Pac 12.

 

[Gator Fever]

1. Unless Mac decides to voluntarily leave, he will be here for at least two more seasons.

2. Kelly isn't coming to Gainesville. He'll wind up somewhere in the Pac 12.

Not if there isn't an opening at a bigger school there. I doubt he would take anything under UCLA level.

 

[kellylexy]

Not if there isn't an opening at a bigger school there. I doubt he would take anything under UCLA level.

A team out West will probably have the inside track. What if Helton hiccups again at USC? He was on the hot seat to start this past season then USC caught fire. Mora has been underachieving for a while now.

Besides, my best guess suggests Kelly is gone this week, not next year. UF is still building under Coach Mac so I doubt anything happens at UF for two more years.

1. Unless Mac decides to voluntarily leave, he will be here for at least two more seasons.

2. Kelly isn't coming to Gainesville. He'll wind up somewhere in the Pac 12.

As I said probably would happen at the beginning of this thread, Chip K. has been canned this year. He will land elsewhere unless he decides to take a year or two off a la Meyer. If he does take a couple years off then he could be a candidate for a college job, including UF, in a couple years. Now, would Kelly want to leave the Pacific Northwest, where he has deep ties, for a job in the Southeast? All depends on if he wants to make a life in Gainesville.

I will say this, I bet Oregon is kicking itself a little right now for hiring Taggert so quickly after the season. Of course, it was good to bridge the coaching divide as quickly as possibly in the heat of recruiting season, however I bet they would have loved to have Kelly back at the helm. There is something about Kelly's personality/style that does not equate well with owners of NFL franchises, One and done at SF and a tumultous time at Philly are not good for the NFL resume'. My guess is he becomes and analyst for a year or two if he does not return to a college head coaching gig this off season. To my knowledge, I do not think there are any upcoming openings between now and signing day. I bet there are some major FBS programs thinking hard about their head coaching situation right now.

 

[Michi-Gator]

UF could be the premire opening next year by a mile. The only other big opening possible appears to be Notre Dame. Even if Harbaugh went back to the NFL, Michigan will never hire another spread coach.

And if you are a new AD and we suck again next year, don't think a splash hire like Kelly isn't tempting.

 

[oozie7]

Where are you people getting this Pacific Northwest ties stuff from? Kelly spent all of 5 years of his coaching career on the west coast, he's primarily coached in the northeast. Beyond that, you guys highly overrate how big of a factor that is when it comes to recruiting anyway, being from the area doesn't mean a damn thing. It's about what kind of excitement you can bring to a program, how well you put a staff together, etc. Jimbo has zero ties to the west coast but I'm sure if he got hired at ucla tomorrow he'd still recruit well. Same way urban got to UF and started pulling elite classes even though he had spent almost his entire career in the Midwest. Recruiting is a skill you either have it or you don't.

 

[hardliner]

Mac wins sec east two years running and gator fans fantasize about his firing for a failed NFL coach they runs a gimmicky offense. Wow.

 

[Michi-Gator]

Where are you people getting this Pacific Northwest ties stuff from? Kelly spent all of 5 years of his coaching career on the west coast, he's primarily coached in the northeast. Beyond that, you guys highly overrate how big of a factor that is when it comes to recruiting anyway, being from the area doesn't mean a damn thing. It's about what kind of excitement you can bring to a program, how well you put a staff together, etc. Jimbo has zero ties to the west coast but I'm sure if he got hired at ucla tomorrow he'd still recruit well. Same way urban got to UF and started pulling elite classes even though he had spent almost his entire career in the Midwest. Recruiting is a skill you either have it or you don't.

The mention of Chip elicits fear from both Noles and Mac backers. I think its an excuse that works for them.

The thing that intrigues me is he would arrive with instant credibility and also would bring excitement we so badly lack right now.

I also believe the regional recruiting excuse is one frequently used to defend Mac. Although Mac has significantly more southeastern recruiting experience than did Meyer. But it furthers your point, you can recruit or you can't, region is not the issue.

 

[Michi-Gator]

Mac wins sec east two years running and gator fans fantasize about his firing for a failed NFL coach they runs a gimmicky offense. Wow.

A failed NFL coach that embarassed Jimbo and the boys in the playoff, that one?

Or a failed NFL coach like Saban, Spurrier and Carroll?

 

[hardliner]

A failed NFL coach that embarassed Jimbo and the boys in the playoff, that one?

Or a failed NFL coach like Saban, Spurrier and Carroll?

Meh pretty sure Kelly was in Philly then. That FSU team was pretty flawed and turned the ball over way too much including 5 in that game. Ducks got trucked the next game by the way.

Those guys you listed never went 2-14 though.

 

[MadRappa]

Mac wins sec east two years running and gator fans fantasize about his firing for a failed NFL coach they runs a gimmicky offense. Wow.

Mizzou came in and won SECE in 2 of their first 3 years.
Stop it with that SECE BS! GT is 3-0 vs SECE

At least Kelly has an offense. What the hell does McElwain have? He brought LDR and AA to Gainesville. LMAO

McElwain doesn't even look the part. He comes off weird and the recruits in the SE are not responding well. He's not going to make it.

 

[keyzer soze]

I think most predictions from most people had the Gators winning 8 games...at best this year. Just go back to this time last year on these boards.

Again, I am not satisfied where we are right now. Nor do I think this coaching staff has coached or recruited lights out.

That's the problem. Nobody thought Florida could win more than 8. The fact that people recognized the Gators weren't any good doesn't make it ok that they aren't any good.

So yeah, I looked at this season back in the summer and thought the same thing. The offense is bad, the development is bad, the scheme is HORRIBLE, recruiting is bad and NOBODY is excited about the prospects of the program. I wasn't too confident about winning 8.......

 

[keyzer soze]

So, a mediocre LAC 10-12 coach that would not even be given the job back at Oregon is your idea of a good replacement for Mc? LMFAO now....

So a coach that won 10+ games every year in the power 5 Pac12 is inferior to the guy we got from the Mountain West?