Chip Kelly will be available for 2018 season?

[Gator Fever]

If Kelly gets fired after today like it sounds like might happen he will probably be available for the 2018 season. Unless Mac really rights the ship and doesn't lose 4 or more games again I think you have to go after a proven college head coach like that despite the money it will take.

I am trying to think what big programs could fire their coach after next season and could compete with us for Kelly. Notre Dame possibly? I think Auburn would consider it if they have another 4 loss season. Did LSU set it up where they could fire their coach easily after a year?

 

[tnole903]

Successful coaching changes are all about timing. Will the new AD be willing to take a coach with a "Show Cause" in his past?

 

[kellylexy]

A team out West will probably have the inside track. What if Helton hiccups again at USC? He was on the hot seat to start this past season then USC caught fire. Mora has been underachieving for a while now.

Besides, my best guess suggests Kelly is gone this week, not next year. UF is still building under Coach Mac so I doubt anything happens at UF for two more years.

 

[tnole903]

@kellylexy ...agree with that. Kelly has no experience recruiting the Southeast. He is well known out West. His best chance for success is at a West Coast school, one with more of an appetite for a coach with a checkered past. Are there any Jacksonville State's or Auburn's out west? That is where you should look for Kelly to land.

 

[Gator Fever]

A team out West will probably have the inside track. What if Helton hiccups again at USC? He was on the hot seat to start this past season then USC caught fire. Mora has been underachieving for a while now.

Besides, my best guess suggests Kelly is gone this week, not next year. UF is still building under Coach Mac so I doubt anything happens at UF for two more years.

I think we have a great shot at him if USC and ND aren't looking for coaches after next season. I think the USC guy will survive for sure and the one at ND might if there is a nice turnaround which shouldn't be that hard with how they looked this season.

Our past has shown you don't wait until year 4 is over to deal with a problem. Unless Mac just does a 180 on recruiting he should be canned after 2017 unless he has a good season with 3 or less losses.

 

[Gator Fever]

Successful coaching changes are all about timing. Will the new AD be willing to take a coach with a "Show Cause" in his past?

His thing didn't result in a lack of institutional control penalty and it ran out 2 years ago so I don't think it would be an issue hardly. If it was we deserve to stay mediocre and to keep hiring unproven coaches.

 

[instaGATOR]

If Kelly gets fired after today like it sounds like might happen he will probably be available for the 2018 season. Unless Mac really rights the ship and doesn't lose 4 or more games again I think you have to go after a proven college head coach like that despite the money it will take.

I am trying to think (but mostly failing imo) what big programs could fire their coach after next season and could compete with us for Kelly. Notre Dame possibly? I think Auburn would consider it if they have another 4 loss season. Did LSU set it up where they could fire their coach easily after a year?

Cow-Chip Kelly has shown himself to be both a liar and a cheat imo.
And he was a somewhat proven HC in the LAC-12, not in the SEC.
After many years, how many NC's did he bring to Oregon?

I wouldn't have him or neutered lame's Jelly-Belly-Kelly on a silver platter.
Your constant yappin' to dump Mc after just 1-2 years is 'low-rent' BS imo.

Total support for 2 years. (a few sniveling whiners aside)
Some heat if an obvious lack of progress after 3 years.
Then maybe looking at other coaches during or after the critical 4th year.
If you're not where you want to be after 4 seasons, or at least well on the way to it, then you consider changing HC's, not before. Unless there are other critical extenuating 'off the field' circumstances

No Power-5 team, or it's fans, should want to get on the 'coaching carousel' if it can help it. That goes double for any team in the SEC.

 

[Michi-Gator]

Successful coaching changes are all about timing. Will the new AD be willing to take a coach with a "Show Cause" in his past?

Its called fear on the part of the Noles. Not one Nole alive wants to see this happen.

 

[Michi-Gator]

A team out West will probably have the inside track. What if Helton hiccups again at USC? He was on the hot seat to start this past season then USC caught fire. Mora has been underachieving for a while now.

Besides, my best guess suggests Kelly is gone this week, not next year. UF is still building under Coach Mac so I doubt anything happens at UF for two more years.

If we lose tomorrow and open with a loss to Michigan he will not be nearly as safe as you think.

 

[djegators]

If we lose tomorrow and open with a loss to Michigan he will not be nearly as safe as you think.

Agreed. Boosters and AD are smart enough to know SECe wins might be good enough as an excuse to keep a guy you want, but are not reasons to justify extending the pain....

 

[Gator Fever]

If we lose tomorrow and open with a loss to Michigan he will not be nearly as safe as you think.

I think 4 losses could get him booted especially if recruiting is 6th or lower in the SEC still. It may depend on who is available out there. I think 5 losses would seal his fate. I am still hoping he finishes strong in recruiting and can get a QB ready to play good but I have lost a lot of faith that its going to happen. A bad showing against Iowa would get some people on the fence now starting to doubt him.

 

[Gator Fever]

Cow-Chip Kelly has shown himself to be both a liar and a cheat imo.
And he was a somewhat proven HC in the LAC-12, not in the SEC.
After many years, how many NC's did he bring to Oregon?

I wouldn't have him or neutered lame's Jelly-Belly-Kelly on a silver platter.
Your constant yappin' to dump Mc after just 1-2 years is 'low-rent' BS imo.

Total support for 2 years. (a few sniveling whiners aside)
Some heat if an obvious lack of progress after 3 years.
Then maybe looking at other coaches during or after the critical 4th year.
If you're not where you want to be after 4 seasons, or at least well on the way to it, then you consider changing HC's, not before. Unless there are other critical extenuating 'off the field' circumstances

No Power-5 team, or it's fans, should want to get on the 'coaching carousel' if it can help it. That goes double for any team in the SEC.

I bought into the Mac stuff until I saw he was keeping Mr. # 115 in offense around despite his horrible track record the past 3 seasons as an OC and of course the substandard recruiting up to this point. Hopefully he can save that some with a few late pickups.

 

[MJWilliamson]

A team out West will probably have the inside track. What if Helton hiccups again at USC? He was on the hot seat to start this past season then USC caught fire. Mora has been underachieving for a while now.

Besides, my best guess suggests Kelly is gone this week, not next year. UF is still building under Coach Mac so I doubt anything happens at UF for two more years.

I agree with all of this. Absent some legal or NCAA problems, Mac will be our coach for at least two more years, probably three more, even with future 4 loss years.

 

[instaGATOR]

Looking at everything involved with the team, it hasn't been that bad imo.

They came in to a 'FIRED HC' cluster.
They exceeded the projected results in both years so far.
The players have all expressed faith in Mc-Nuss, so they haven't lost the team.
Recruits that were low 3-4 star rated have so far exceeded all expectations of them.
Actually, late recruiting pickups don't start until after NSD.
Not being 'early' doesn't make them late.
If they have 20+ by NSD then they are right on schedule.

Would you rather have the #50 offense and 6-7 wins, or the #115 offense and 8-9 wins?

Would you rather have 8-9 wins and be in Hotlanta playing in the SEC-C game, or have 10-11 wins while sitting at home watching Mz-Tn-Ga playing in Hotlanta?

It's amazing to me that the Gators have been projected to have 6-7 wins in Mc's first 2 season, but he has instead been the SECe-C both times and the SEC CoY once already, and still there are unappreciative 'entitled' whiners out there yappin' away....

 

[Gator Fever]

Mac hasn't exceeded any expected results unless you count everyone else collapsing in the East as exceeding results. I guess it could be said he met expected results in year one except for recruiting.

 

[MJWilliamson]

I am as disturbed about our late season collapses these past two years as any Gator fan. And I am more than disturbed by the seeming inability of this coaching staff to recognize problems and adjust to them. But I challenge any Gator fans to find some kind of prediction that had Florida in Atlanta both years.

 

[Michi-Gator]

I am as disturbed about our late season collapses these past two years as any Gator fan. And I am more than disturbed by the seeming inability of this coaching staff to recognize problems and adjust to them. But I challenge any Gator fans to find some kind of prediction that had Florida in Atlanta both years.

So we got to Atlanta. We got smashed in the Arky, FSU and Bama losses and had a meltdown of epic proportions against UT. I could understand the support for Mac if it looked like anything was headed in the right direction, but our on-field and recruiting are both below average and of we lose tomorrow he will have NINE losses in two years with almost no quality wins. It is very clear we a light years away from being nationally relevant and he is keeping Nuss and their 1950s system, which tells me they don't see it. But then again people on this board threw a fit when people mentikmed Dabo when the job was op n, so I am not surprised people are fooled by Mac's failures.

 

[Gator Fever]

I am as disturbed about our late season collapses these past two years as any Gator fan. And I am more than disturbed by the seeming inability of this coaching staff to recognize problems and adjust to them. But I challenge any Gator fans to find some kind of prediction that had Florida in Atlanta both years.

I saw quite a few by Gator fans this year but most had the talk of Tenn being way overrated again etc. and Georgia having the brand new coach and a lot of talk that LDR was the real deal after the Spring game. No one hardly did the first year but no one was hardly predicting the bad seasons of our East challengers either.

 

[instaGATOR]

Class when Mc arrives -- Ranked in the 90's with only 6-7 commits.

Mc's first 2 classes per the 247 Composite Rankings.

2015 - #21 -- 21 with 2 *****'s and 3 ****'s.

2016 - #12 -- 25 with 9 ****'s -- Up 9 spots from 1st season's class ranking.

2017 - #19 currently, with only 15 commits so far. Where it goes with another 10 recruits or so is yet to be seen...

And the last 7 Gator recruiting classes before Mc's arrival did not average a Top 5 ranking, so saying that Mc's classes have to be Top 5's is 'entitled fan BS' imo.
On the other hand, he should be able to get the classes into a Top 10 average at some point in the future. The 1st two classes, coming into the cluster, are at 16.5.

 

[Michi-Gator]

Class when Mc arrives -- Ranked in the 90's with only 6-7 commits.

Mc's first 2 classes per the 247 Composite Rankings.

2015 - #21 -- 21 with 2 *****'s and 3 ****'s.

2016 - #12 -- 25 with 9 ****'s -- Up 9 spots from 1st season's class ranking.

2017 - #19 currently, with only 15 commits so far. Where it goes with another 10 recruits or so is yet to be seen...

And the last 7 Gator recruiting classes did not average a Top 5 ranking, so saying that Mc's classes have to be Top 5's is 'entitled fan BS' imo.
On the other hand, he should be able to get the classes into a Top 10 average at some point in the future. The 1st two classes, coming into the cluster, are at 16.5.

His second class was an absolute flop for what a 'bump' class is at most major programs (see UGa at #3). And a near perfecr finish this year has him in the range of #12, again, not good enough. That will be 3 disappointing classes in a row and will start to show on the field. I mean we have Jake allen coming in yet they are scrambling to land a dual threat QB which shows they have no real plan.

 

[instaGATOR]

When SS Quincy Wilson and LT David Sharpe are the ONLY 2 players to start all 12 games, then that has to be taken into account, unless you're a complete moe-ron!

For the bowl game, the Gator's Top 3 LB's are out, Davis, Anzalone, and Reese.
Also DE Jordan Sherit and AA FS Marcus Maye are both out.
With DE Bryan Cox Jr and SS Nick Washington both being highly questionable...
Well jus-damn!
But the whiners say that they've GOT to WIN a bowl game that they weren't even supposed to be in in the first place, or it's doomsday...

~ Claim with the musclecramp's departure was a dropoff in Total D. I said no-worries.
The Gator's lost 6 defensive starters after the 2015 season, (#8 Total-D in nation).

~ An even more sure claim of a drop-off in Total D. I said no-worries.
They lose 9 more plus the DC after the 2016 season, (#6 Total-D in nation).
They not only didn't drop off, they moved up 2 spots!

~ Now 'they' are claiming a total disaster for the Gator D in 2017.
I say maybe out of top 10, but maybe not, or not that far out. We'll see...

Sure do miss that great recruiter and Beast, liar Meyer.

Clemp's-son 31 - 0 The Beast - so the beast just got shut-out slaughtered....
DOH!
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To me, I'd sure like my Gators to beat Iowa and win their bowl game. However, it means little to me personally overall. I'm much more interested in and hopeful for the next game against the meat-chickens in Texas to start next season, and especially to see how good the starting QB plays, whomever that ends up being.

 

[kellylexy]

His second class was an absolute flop for what a 'bump' class is at most major programs (see UGa at #3). And a near perfecr finish this year has him in the range of #12, again, not good enough. That will be 3 disappointing classes in a row and will start to show on the field. I mean we have Jake allen coming in yet they are scrambling to land a dual threat QB which shows they have no real plan.

The admins knew, as well as most of the college football world, that coach Mac has to rebuild the entire offense. OL was depleted and the QB depth chart was similar to that of a FCS school. The skill was ok, but nothing fantastic. Mac is going to have four years to 'grow/develop' a QB AND OL depth chart. Next year will certainly see some growing pains with the exodus of many top plays on defense, but the offense returns just about everyone. This third year is widely known as Macs big transition year. His recruits in year three, four and five (not sure if he will make five if the trajectory from three to four is not positive). Part of the frustration still needs to be squarely placed on Muschamp these first couple of years, however the transition to Mac starts this coming season.

 

[Michi-Gator]

The admins knew, as well as most of the college football world, that coach Mac has to rebuild the entire offense. OL was depleted and the QB depth chart was similar to that of a FCS school. The skill was ok, but nothing fantastic. Mac is going to have four years to 'grow/develop' a QB AND OL depth chart. Next year will certainly see some growing pains with the exodus of many top plays on defense, but the offense returns just about everyone. This third year is widely known as Macs big transition year. His recruits in year three, four and five (not sure if he will make five if the trajectory from three to four is not positive). Part of the frustration still needs to be squarely placed on Muschamp these first couple of years, however the transition to Mac starts this coming season.

The best QB Mac has had was left him by Muschamp. And he has yet to recruit one with a similar skill set. Mac is doing as poorly recruiting D as Chump did offense. Nothing is moving in the right direction and he is scrambling to bring ina ND backup to play QB. He is not a developer of QB talent, this is more than obvious

 

[instaGATOR]

His second class was an absolute flop (iyo) for what a 'bump' class is at most major programs (see UGa at #3). And a near perfecr finish this year has him in the range of #12, again, not good enough. That will be 3 disappointing classes in a row and will start to show on the field. I mean we have Jake allen coming in yet they are scrambling to land a dual threat QB which shows they have no real plan.

Yep, UGA has had better 'twit-rated' classes consistently for the past couple of decades, but what's their W/L record vs the Gators over that time? (crickets)
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11. Tn -- 26 -- 1***** - 4**** - 21*** - 0** -- 87.40 (5 - 4-5 stars)

19. UF -- 15 -- 0***** - 7**** - 8*** - 0** -- 88.76 (7 - 4.5 stars)

Where do you suppose UF's class will be if Mc only adds 10 lowly 3-stars?
And where would it be if he got 1 5 star, and 3 more 4 stars, along with 6 more 3 stars? (Top 10 for sure)

Personally, I think that you're mostly sniveling and/or barkin' at the moon....
I say keep right on sniveling and complaining, year in and year out.
Eventually you might be right about once per decade....

 

[Michi-Gator]

Yep, UGA has had better 'twit-rated' classes consistently for the past couple of decades, but what's their W/L record vs the Gators over that time? (crickets)
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11. Tn -- 26 -- 1***** - 4**** - 21*** - 0** -- 87.40 (5 - 4-5 stars)

19. UF -- 15 -- 0***** - 7**** - 8*** - 0** -- 88.76 (7 - 4.5 stars)

Where do you suppose UF's class will be if Mc only adds 10 lowly 3-stars?
And where would it be if he got 1 5 star, and 3 more 4 stars, along with 6 more 3 stars? (Top 10 for sure)

Personally, I think that you're mostly sniveling and/or barkin' at the moon....
I say keep right on sniveling and complaining, year in and year out.
Eventually you might be right about once per decade....

Ues, back to back 4 or more loss seasons is proof Mac is an elite coach, no worries. We are a natiinal powerhouse right now. But you can start defending Zaire pretty soon too

 

[Gator Fever]

The admins knew, as well as most of the college football world, that coach Mac has to rebuild the entire offense. OL was depleted and the QB depth chart was similar to that of a FCS school. The skill was ok, but nothing fantastic. Mac is going to have four years to 'grow/develop' a QB AND OL depth chart. Next year will certainly see some growing pains with the exodus of many top plays on defense, but the offense returns just about everyone. This third year is widely known as Macs big transition year. His recruits in year three, four and five (not sure if he will make five if the trajectory from three to four is not positive). Part of the frustration still needs to be squarely placed on Muschamp these first couple of years, however the transition to Mac starts this coming season.

If he gets a 4th year unless the recruiting finished strong this year that will just put us farther behind the curve unless he magically learns how to get this offense out of the basement with an OC that has been in the basement for 3 straight years now.

Zook proved if there is a good candidate out there you don't wait that long and Zook could actually recruit real good.

 

[instaGATOR]

Ues, back to back 4 or more loss seasons is proof Mac is an elite coach, no worries. We are a natiinal powerhouse right now. But you can start defending Zaire pretty soon too

You like to ignore that Mc/UF was projected to win 7 at best in 2015, and finish 4-5 in the SECe.
He finished as the SECe-C going 10-4, and his fellow SEC coaches voted him the SEC CoY. (but they're not as smart as you are I guess...)

And then Mc/UF was again projected to win 7 and finish 3rd in the SECe.
SECe-C again instead, with 8 or 9 wins depending on tomorrow's results.
And he accomplished that with only 2 players that started all 12 games.

He begins both seasons not a consensus Top 25 team, but he is likely to finish up both seasons ranked in the Top 25.

And your Zaire comment confirms you as one of the top board moe-rons.
The last thing I want is any more xfer retreads at QB...

 

[Gator Fever]

Class when Mc arrives -- Ranked in the 90's with only 6-7 commits.

Mc's first 2 classes per the 247 Composite Rankings.

2015 - #21 -- 21 with 2 *****'s and 3 ****'s.

2016 - #12 -- 25 with 9 ****'s -- Up 9 spots from 1st season's class ranking.

2017 - #19 currently, with only 15 commits so far. Where it goes with another 10 recruits or so is yet to be seen...

And the last 7 Gator recruiting classes before Mc's arrival did not average a Top 5 ranking, so saying that Mc's classes have to be Top 5's is 'entitled fan BS' imo.
On the other hand, he should be able to get the classes into a Top 10 average at some point in the future. The 1st two classes, coming into the cluster, are at 16.5.

Insta seems to think having the 6th or 7th ranked SEC Class can lead to SEC Championships. Well if history is any indication it won't work unless that is an isolated class surrounded by 2 good ones. And a 6th ranked SEC Class will land you about # 12 now nationally.

 

[Gator Fever]

The best QB Mac has had was left him by Muschamp. And he has yet to recruit one with a similar skill set. Mac is doing as poorly recruiting D as Chump did offense. Nothing is moving in the right direction and he is scrambling to bring ina ND backup to play QB. He is not a developer of QB talent, this is more than obvious

We have to hold out hope Franks isnt as lost as some think upstairs or Trask turns out to be a gem.

 

[instaGATOR]

Mc-Nuss are total incompetents, except when they occasionally get lucky...

2015
UF 61 - 13 NMSt
UF 31 - 24 ECa
UF 14 - 9 UK
UF 28 - 27 Tn
UF 38 - 10 Miss
UF 21 - 3 Mizz
UF 27 - 3 UGa
UF 9 - 7 VU
UF 24 - 14 SCa
UF 20 - 14 Fl-Atl
2016
UF 24 - 7 U-Mass
UF 45 - 7 UK
UF 32 - 0 NTx
UF 13 - 6 VU
UF 40 - 14 Mizz
UF 24 - 10 UGa
UF 20 - 7 SCa
UF 16 - 10 LSU
UF ?? - ?? Iowa

0-2 FSU, 0-2 NC-UA
1-1 Tn, 1-1 LSU, 0-1 @ Ark, 0-1 Mich
2-0 UK, 2-0 VU, 2-0 SCa. 2-0 Mz, 2-0 UGa

But hey, all those wins don't mean nuttin' so let's all just concentrate on the few (8) losses instead. Especially when they were only projected to win 7 games at best per season while attempting to completely rebuild both the personal and the culture... --- Because we don't care about the actual W/L results (18-8), it's the cosmetic 'flash' that's important...

PS -- Spurrier didn't even play for a mNC until after his 6th season at UF (UF 24 - 62 Neb), and he didn't win one until after his 7th season (UF 52 - 20 FSU).

 

[Michi-Gator]

Mc-Nuss are total incompetents, except when they occasionally get lucky...

2015
UF 61 - 13 NMSt
UF 31 - 24 ECa
UF 14 - 9 UK
UF 28 - 27 Tn
UF 38 - 10 Miss
UF 21 - 3 Mizz
UF 27 - 3 UGa
UF 9 - 7 VU
UF 24 - 14 SCa
UF 20 - 14 Fl-Atl
2016
UF 24 - 7 U-Mass
UF 45 - 7 UK
UF 32 - 0 NTx
UF 13 - 6 VU
UF 40 - 14 Mizz
UF 24 - 10 UGa
UF 20 - 7 SCa
UF 16 - 10 LSU
UF ?? - ?? Iowa

0-2 FSU, 0-2 NC-UA
1-1 Tn, 1-1 LSU, 0-1 @ Ark, 0-1 Mich
2-0 UK, 2-0 VU, 2-0 SCa. 2-0 Mz, 2-0 UGa

But hey, all those wins don't mean nuttin' so let's all just concentrate on the few (8) losses instead. Especially when they were only projected to win 7 games at best per season while attempting to completely rebuild both the personal and the culture... --- Because we don't care about the actual W/L results (18-8), it's the cosmetic 'flash' that's important...

PS -- Spurrier didn't even play for a mNC until after his 6th season at UF (UF 24 - 62 Neb), and he didn't win one until after his 7th season (UF 52 - 20 FSU).

lol at a FEW losses being 8 in two years. That is your most comical post to date.

 

[instaGATOR]

lol at a FEW losses being 8 in two years. That is your most comical post to date.

18-8 = .692 winning percentage

While you still want to totally ignore that 7 wins per season was his projected BEST outcome. Some had him only winning 5 games in 2015....

Comical is an idiot like you dissing on a coach that was voted the SEC CoY by his fellow SEC coaches, while being the ONLY coach in UF history to win 10 games in his 1st season and win the the SECe both times in his first 2 seasons.

 

[Michi-Gator]

Insta seems to think having the 6th or 7th ranked SEC Class can lead to SEC Championships. Well if history is any indication it won't work unless that is an isolated class surrounded by 2 good ones. And a 6th ranked SEC Class will land you about # 12 now nationally.

We need a near perfect finish and retaining Blades (not likely) to get to 12th. People don't want to see it but we are about to fall behind UGa for the forseeable future. And say Kirby is an average coach, but both Jimbo and Butch made us look silly after halftime adjustments and they are both average as well. I don't know how long he is retained, but when Mac leaves he will be the coach who did the most damage to UF since the Spurrier era began, and it won't be close

 

[Michi-Gator]

18-8 = .692 winning percentage

While you still want to totally ignore that 7 wins per season was his projected BEST outcome. Some had him only winning 5 games in 2015....

Comical is an idiot like you dissing on a coach that was voted the SEC CoY by his fellow SEC coaches, while being the ONLY coach in UF history to win 10 games in his 1st season and win the the SECe both times in his first 2 seasons.

All accomplish d on the backs of the NFL defense left him by Muschamp. Good thing is next year he is all alone with 'his' guys and 'his' awesome OC.

 

[instaGATOR]

We need a near perfect finish and retaining Blades (not likely) to get to 12th. People don't want to see it but we are about to fall behind UGa for the forseeable future. And say Kirby is an average coach, but both Jimbo and Butch made us look silly after halftime adjustments and they are both average as well. I don't know how long he is retained, but when Mac leaves he will be the coach who did the most damage to UF since the Spurrier era began, and it won't be close

We again? You still got that rat in your pocket do you?
10 lowly 3 stars would put the class in front of #11 Tennis-sea you twit.

You've yapped for months now on Blades flipping, but has it actually happened?
IF huh? Well IF you didn't stink so much and so often, then you'd smell good.

And IF Blades did flip, but C.J. Henderson replaced him in the class, would that be a gain or a loss for Mc's class? I know that you wouldn't be so hypocritical that you'd only speculate about who might decide to flip out, while never talking about any of those that are a lean to come to UF in this class, right?

Mc will never be as bad of a Gator coach, as you are as a pseudo-Gator fan.

 

[MadRappa]

I'm sorry McElwain is pretty damn average.
He's out of touch, not even HC cool and can't recruit in friggin FLORIDA.

He's a MWC type coach IMO.

BTW, even Muschamp was SEC COTY before.

 

[Michi-Gator]

I'm sorry McElwain is pretty damn average.
He's out of touch, not even HC cool and can't recruit in friggin FLORIDA.

He's a MWC type coach IMO.

Not sure he is even average

 

[MadRappa]

Not sure he is even average

I did edit it from "bad" to average so I guess I was trying to be kind.

 

[MJWilliamson]

I saw quite a few by Gator fans this year but most had the talk of Tenn being way overrated again etc. and Georgia having the brand new coach and a lot of talk that LDR was the real deal after the Spring game. No one hardly did the first year but no one was hardly predicting the bad seasons of our East challengers either.

I think most predictions from most people had the Gators winning 8 games...at best this year. Just go back to this time last year on these boards.

Again, I am not satisfied where we are right now. Nor do I think this coaching staff has coached or recruited lights out.

 

[instaGATOR]

Michi's BS:

2014 Musclecramp had the #8 Total D
With him gone, Mc-Collins D will go in the dumpster.

2015 Mc-Collisn D was #8 in the Nation, then 5 went to the NFL
With them gone, Mc-Collins D will now really go in the dumpster.

2016 Instead the Mc-Collins D moved up to the #6 in Total D.
(so wrong again moe-ron)

With 9 more gone and not a single replacement brought in over the last 3 classes they're really gonna be doomed now. ~ But tell me genius, is it a plus or a minus that the crappy DC Collins is gone now?
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#12 DE Zachary Carter 6-5 251 **** - Tampa - ESPN 300

#23 CB Marco Wilson 6-0 180 **** - Plantation - ESPN 300

#24 CB Shawn Davis 6-0 190 **** - Miami - ESPN 300

#25 CB Elijah Blades 6-2 170 **** - Pasadena, Ca - ESPN 300

#26 Ath-CB Kadarius Toney 6-0 177 **** - Prichard, Ala

#35 DT Kyree Campbell 6-5 320 **** - Woodbridge, Va - (Prep flip from NC)

DC-LB'ers Randy Shannon evaluated and recruited these two:

#37 OLB James Houston IV 6-1 226 *** - Plantation

#42 OLB Ventrell Miller 6-0 227 *** - Lakeland
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#2 DE Antonneous Clayton 6-3 220 **** - Vienna, Ga - ESPN 300

#4 FS/CB Chauncey Gardener 5-11 204 **** - Cocoa - ESPN 300

#29 DE Jordan Smith 6-5 240 **** - Lithonia, Ga - ESPN 300

#21 SS Quincy Lenton 5-11 202 **** - Meridian, Ms

#17 OLB Vosean Joseph 6-1 226 **** - Miami (bowl starter)

#24 OLB Jeremiah Moon 6-4 218 **** - Hoover, Ala

#26 ILB David Reese 6-1 230 *** - Farmington, Mich (monster Fr)

#47 DE Jachai Polite 6-2 271 **** - Daytona Beach

#39 SS Jeawon Taylor 6-1 195 *** - Montgomery, Ala

#51 CB/RB McArthur Burnett 5-9 174 *** - Pahokee

#81 CB C.J. McWilliams 5-11 171 *** - Miami

JC CB Joseph Putu 6-2 195 *** - Providence, RI
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#2 DE/DT CeCe Jefferson 6-1 261 ***** - Glen St. Mary - ESPN 300

#58 Ath/CB Chris Williamson 5-11 191 *** - Gainesville, Ga

#45 DT/DE Jabari Zuniga 6-3 245 *** - Marietta, Ga (sack-master)

#62 OLB Rayshad Jackson 6-0 226 *** - Miami

#80 SS/LB Kylan Johnson 6-1 231 *** - Dallas, Tx (rsFr starter)

#138 DE Keivonnis Davis 6-4 241 *** - Miami

#148 DE Luke Ancrum 6-5 262 *** - Sebring
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I have to admit to not being a bit worried about the Gator D for 2017.