Chance of Zaire playing for the Gators?
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That spring game was more of joke than even I originally thought. Franks it appears had about 4 completions of 10 yards or more to receivers/TEs (all receivers) and the defenders covering the receiver on the plays were walk-ons on 2 of the plays and a LB that isn't even listed on the depth chart covering Callaway on another play. On the Hammond play it was a RS Freshman that has never played in a game that had the coverage.
As far as Trask it looks like he only had 2 passes I think of 10 yards or more to a receiver/TE (receiver) and a walk-on had responsibility at first on Powell that was turned over to Williamson who was the only DB out of the whole lot that will see the field in non garbage time.
I would like someone to point out or even take a guess at what SEC spring game this year the above matchups on 10 plus yard passes were that much of a joke especially for the starting QB. I know you get a lot of matchups with the 2nd stringers but our matchups were pathetic basically for the most part when it came to covering our receivers. If you have an idea on a game that was this much of a joke when it came to that let me know and I might take a look myself at what some of the matchups were. LDR didn't even get catered to this much last year in that 2016 spring game - heck I saw many guys that were part of the depth chart and 2nd string just looking at a few of LDR's early passes in that game.
As far as Trask it looks like he only had 2 passes I think of 10 yards or more to a receiver/TE (receiver) and a walk-on had responsibility at first on Powell that was turned over to Williamson who was the only DB out of the whole lot that will see the field in non garbage time.
I would like someone to point out or even take a guess at what SEC spring game this year the above matchups on 10 plus yard passes were that much of a joke especially for the starting QB. I know you get a lot of matchups with the 2nd stringers but our matchups were pathetic basically for the most part when it came to covering our receivers. If you have an idea on a game that was this much of a joke when it came to that let me know and I might take a look myself at what some of the matchups were. LDR didn't even get catered to this much last year in that 2016 spring game - heck I saw many guys that were part of the depth chart and 2nd string just looking at a few of LDR's early passes in that game.
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This again? First it was the defense was full of walkons, then it was 2nd stringers, then it was the 2nd string full of walkons, and now it's the second string with walkons on FOUR plays 10 yards down the field. Is this a joke? How many plays did the 1st team offense run? And then to throw in a "redshirt freshman who has never played a down" to excuse away the fact that you straight made up that a long pass completion was completed on a walk on early in the game. You under the impression UF is the only team playing a redshirt freshman in a spring game or something? Coaches play young players in a spring game to get them live reps. UGA's 2nd team defense has TWO true freshman DB's...guess Kirby was setting Eason up to look good. How bout you link those 4 plays here so we can all see if you have any idea what you're talking about?
lol Show me an SEC game where the starters got all their mid range plus passes against walk ons and a LB not even on the depth chart etc. They didn't even get nearly this crazy with LDR with making it easy. I will be waiting to see the game that was that much of a joke for the 1st string QB.
So no proof of these four plays? Figures. And I already gave you an example that refutes whatever nonsensical point you were trying to make. UGA's 2nd string DB unit has two true freshmen in it. Oh no how could that happen in a spring game! They've never even played in a game!
And midrange passes? If we're playing zone the linebacker isn't 'covering' anybody he's dropping to a spot because you know, its zone. So your mischaracterization of linebackers covering receivers is bullshit. And you do realize that we were down to one middle linebacker, Christian Garcia by end of spring? Becaus Reese was out. Same with Houston and the other backers are outside backers. That's why they had a walk on subbing in to backup on a handful of plays into the second quarter and then the second half of the game. How supposed fans of the team know so little about it baffles me.
And midrange passes? If we're playing zone the linebacker isn't 'covering' anybody he's dropping to a spot because you know, its zone. So your mischaracterization of linebackers covering receivers is bullshit. And you do realize that we were down to one middle linebacker, Christian Garcia by end of spring? Becaus Reese was out. Same with Houston and the other backers are outside backers. That's why they had a walk on subbing in to backup on a handful of plays into the second quarter and then the second half of the game. How supposed fans of the team know so little about it baffles me.
GF, it wasn't a Spring Game, and they didn't even try to call it one. It was the O&B debut instead. Which is why I posted this
Which helped led to yet another ooozzzieeee bs rant and him 'coming out for Franks' as the Spring hero.
"Franks isn't good based on y'alls inaccurate assessment (57% vs rsFr and WO's is not my assessment, it's just the actual facts/stats) of the scripted debut. This whole discussion is just dumb. (you sure are)
"Y'all have zero idea what y'all watched and then are biased to boot. (pure bs) One with the Trask infatuation and the other with the Zaire infatuation." (while the third is neck deep in pure bs in-fat-chew-ation)
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None of us really knows squat about what is going on internally with the QB's.
All any of us can do is give our own unqualified opinions of projected ability.
So take a W-a-G on where they will end up by Sept 1st. Nothing is riding on it for any of us, so give it a shot, who knows, one of us might get lucky and pick right...
1. Trask (or Nuss is a total liar on what he's seen)
2. LDR (quality experience backup, no matter who starts)
3. Allen (I think he could be the fall surprise)
4. Franks (he still looks lost and inaccurate to me)
5. Toney - (will have a package or 2, maybe)
6. Sproles - (really a decent QB for a W-O)
7. -- Zaire, (still nuttless and he won't even be here)
The UF 'spring-debut' is in fact, a 'means very little' dog & pony show now days.
All it can show anyone now days, is if someone really sucks or not, which imo it did.
Opinions will vary and I'm just fine with that. We'll see in Sept how it works out....
Which helped led to yet another ooozzzieeee bs rant and him 'coming out for Franks' as the Spring hero.
"Franks isn't good based on y'alls inaccurate assessment (57% vs rsFr and WO's is not my assessment, it's just the actual facts/stats) of the scripted debut. This whole discussion is just dumb. (you sure are)
"Y'all have zero idea what y'all watched and then are biased to boot. (pure bs) One with the Trask infatuation and the other with the Zaire infatuation." (while the third is neck deep in pure bs in-fat-chew-ation)
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None of us really knows squat about what is going on internally with the QB's.
All any of us can do is give our own unqualified opinions of projected ability.
So take a W-a-G on where they will end up by Sept 1st. Nothing is riding on it for any of us, so give it a shot, who knows, one of us might get lucky and pick right...
1. Trask (or Nuss is a total liar on what he's seen)
2. LDR (quality experience backup, no matter who starts)
3. Allen (I think he could be the fall surprise)
4. Franks (he still looks lost and inaccurate to me)
5. Toney - (will have a package or 2, maybe)
6. Sproles - (really a decent QB for a W-O)
7. -- Zaire, (still nuttless and he won't even be here)
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Me pointing out y'alls bullshit =/= me thinking Franks is some kinda savior. There's proof on this board of me not even wanting him recruited or wanting him to be the starting QB. I wouldn't expect you to know that though because you're a retard who can't read. Franks sucks because he only completed 57% of his passes meanwhile Trask is still on top of your hypothetical depth chart after only completing 31% of his passes because he's an Eagle Scout with a big, sweaty, arm. And you wonder why you're a joke on multiple boards.
What your own monster BIAS amounts to is this slimy oozzzieeee.
So, you dissed Franks early on, but now you swing on his jock.
And you get to decide which is which, whenever it's convenient for your bs.
The spring debut glaring fact that you always try to duck and dodge:
Pass completion % with the 1st team O vs the 2-3 and W-O's for Franks = 57%
Pass completion % with the 1st team O vs the 2-3 and W-O's for Trask = 100%
Number of snaps when Franks was pressured by the 1st team D while working with the 2-3 W-O offense was 0%
While you claim to be more knowledgeable than everyone, even the coaches.
So no wonder that you're a poor joke everywhere, and especially with the ladies as I hear it told...
So, you dissed Franks early on, but now you swing on his jock.
And you get to decide which is which, whenever it's convenient for your bs.
The spring debut glaring fact that you always try to duck and dodge:
Pass completion % with the 1st team O vs the 2-3 and W-O's for Franks = 57%
Pass completion % with the 1st team O vs the 2-3 and W-O's for Trask = 100%
Number of snaps when Franks was pressured by the 1st team D while working with the 2-3 W-O offense was 0%
While you claim to be more knowledgeable than everyone, even the coaches.
So no wonder that you're a poor joke everywhere, and especially with the ladies as I hear it told...
Proof - the plays are on the Spring game video. Go look at the plays. They are listed at the UF site schedule with time the drives started and quarter. Franks was given a joke defense to go against period. Mac even trusted LDR to take on more than walk ons and actually have DBs covering those WRs many times that were part of the depth chart. Its probably why he is praying Zaire comes here now because the QB situation has him nervous as hell.
So you don't have any proof. Cool. Coulda just said so and saved everybody the time. I don't know why you can't just tell us these four instances and save everybody the time it was so obvious it shouldn't be hard. And I've watched the video...multiple times. There were zero instances with walkon linebackers covering receivers and other bullshit like you're claiming. So basically you're mad we had the 1's go against the 2's which legitimately might be the dumbest thing I've seen bitched about on this board which is saying a lot.
My proof is the game. I watched the plays and who was in coverage. Go look at them and tell me where I am wrong about who was covering the WR. It was a joke plain and simple with 2 of those plays having just walk on DBs covering that WR and one play a LB not even on the depth chart forced to try and cover Callaway. I am talking about plays that went for 10 or more yards in the passing stats with WRs.
I look forward to your screenshots of Franks passes that were completed for 10 or more yards in gains.
LOL. So you have all this proof but can't be bothered to post it or point out these specific plays? Seems legit. And then the qualifier of 10 yards down the field. LMAO. You realize that because you may see a guy near a play it doesn't mean he's the defender in coverage? Like the play with the walkon DB's...they were in 2-high zone coverage they weren't matched up on the receiver yet y'all are in here bitching about them covering receivers. Like I said I'll post all of them when I get home. The film doesn't support anything you're saying.
Be sure to include these for us too, not just your own couple of biased play choices.
CB McArthur Burnett 5-9 rsFr was attempting to cover Hammond 6-1 on his 46 yard sideline reception.
DB Garrett Stephens rsSr Walk-On
Were attempting (very poorly) to cover Callaway on his endzone TD.
DB Nick Oelrich So Walk-On
With absolutely nobody in Franks face on the throws.
And be sure to include the DL pressure that Franks was facing too...
CB McArthur Burnett 5-9 rsFr was attempting to cover Hammond 6-1 on his 46 yard sideline reception.
DB Garrett Stephens rsSr Walk-On
Were attempting (very poorly) to cover Callaway on his endzone TD.
DB Nick Oelrich So Walk-On
With absolutely nobody in Franks face on the throws.
And be sure to include the DL pressure that Franks was facing too...
Here's the roster genius, figure it out for yourself....
1) Marcell Harris 6-1 211 rsSr
2) Mick Washington 6-0 197 rsSr
3) Jeawon Taylor 6-0 187 So
4) Quincy Lenton 5-11 202 rsFr(foot injury)
#21 S Brian Edwards 6-2 188 Fr - Miramar
#23 S/CB Shawn Davis 6-1 195 Fr - Miami
#33 S Donovan Stiner 6-2 185 Fr - Bellaire, TX
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WO DB Garrett Stephens 5-9 188 rsSr
WO DB Brady Walters 5-11 176 Sr
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Projected CB's for 2017 (9)
1) CB/Nic Duke Dawson 5-10 208 Sr
2) Joseph Putu 6-2 195 Sr
3) Chris Williamson 5-11 191 rsSo
4) Chauncey Gardener 5-11 204 So
5) CJ McWilliams 5-11 171 rsFr (ACL)
6) McArthur Burnett 5-9 174 rsFr <<<----------------------<<<<<
2016: McArthur did not appear in any games and redshirted.
#10 Ath/CB C.J. Henderson 6-0 174 Fr - Miami
#13 FS/CB Brad Stewart 6-0 194 Fr - N.O, LA
#13 CB Marco Wilson 6-0 180 Fr - Plantation
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WO DB Eddie Giles 5-9 167 rsJr WO
WO DB Nick Oelrich 6-2 187 So WO
WO DB Edwitch Merisier 5-9 171 So WO
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WR
1) Antonio Callaway 5-11 197 Jr
2) Josh Hammond 6-1 186 So <<<--------------------<<<<<
2016: Josh played in all 13 games throughout the season and recorded three starts…
3) Tyrie Cleveland 6-2 196 So
4)Freddie Swain 6-0 186 So
5) Rick Wells 6-0 206 rsFr
#11 WR James Robinson 6-4 205 Fr - Lakeland
#18 WR Daquon Green 6-1 192 Fr - Tampa
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I guess it's the same reason that a 6-4 238 rsFr EE QB that threw 17 TD's to 0 Ints while playing the 3rd and 7th possession in HS (not mop-up) is hopeless as a possible starter.
Or why an incoming HS Elite 11, UA-AA with back-2-back Florida 7A HS State Championships has absolutely no chance to be the starter either.
He's competing to be the starting nickel right now you idiot, so clearly he is in line for a lot of PT. Once again...do you idiots know shit about the team you pretend to follow? Per coaches McArthur is one of the more athletic players on the team, he redshirted to gain weight because he came in at like 160. And based on your logic a redshirt freshman QB who has never played in a game was throwing against a redshirt freshman DB who has never played in a game, so where's the advantage? You're a moron.
And the coaches, you know, 'McStaff', the ones you said are so much smarter than everyone else are the ones that said Franks is clearly separating from Trask. So you can be as mad as you want and bleed over every football discussion about it but it ain't changing. Your man is riding the bench. Luckily for him you'll be there to lick all his tears after each game.
That is totally incorrect you twit. Are you to stupid to even know what carp you're posting here?
Hammond played in all 13 games, with 3 starts.
Burnett played squat and redshirted.
You may be throwing fits, but you're just FoS as usual.
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And as usual for your dumb azz, you're ignoring the Walk-On's that were attempting to cover AA Callaway, or the DL that never got near Franks.
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I've long said that my one caveat on the coaching was their choices and coaching of the QB, but you choose to 'forget' about that little item too, while you rant on with your stupidity. Gawds what a total DUMBAZZ!
Or in other words, you support the coaches as long as they agree with you. Even though your dumbass doesn't know the first thing about the game. Guess you aren't the superfan you portray yourself to be. This is why they shouldn't let women discuss sports.
I see that your weak azz debate is to mindlessly attack your betters, instead of attempting to defend the lying / incorrect chit that you just posted.
And that's probably what you should stick to doing, while the rest of us with functioning brains just continue to laugh at you and shake our heads...
So I'll do this one by one. This is Frank's 1st pass, in it Scarlett motions out and is covered by Putu:
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Defensive players on the field:
LB-Jeremiah Moon
LB- Rayshad Jackson
LB- Camrin Knight
DT- Khairi Clark
DT- RJ Raymond
DE- Antonneus Clayton
DE- Jachai Polite
DB- McArthur
DB- Putu
DB- Stephens
DB- Williamson
As you can see, not a single walkon at LB. Garrett Stephens was a walk-on at DB but he was surrounded by Putu and Williamson who were both backups and played all last year plus McArthur. The d-line which the in-the-closet moron complained about had Clark who has started multiple games, Polite who played in every game last year and is battling for the second DT spot, and Clayton who is likely to start opposite Zuniga this year, so 3 likely starters on the d-line. Also note that they rotated Stephens OUT the game on multiple drives which I'll also show.
*** the 1st string defense is the one that started the walk-on LB Cristian Garcia. So you idiots bitching about walk-on LB's this entire time and the 2nd team offense was the one that faced a walk-on LB.
photo uploading websitescertificity.comDefensive players on the field:
LB-Jeremiah Moon
LB- Rayshad Jackson
LB- Camrin Knight
DT- Khairi Clark
DT- RJ Raymond
DE- Antonneus Clayton
DE- Jachai Polite
DB- McArthur
DB- Putu
DB- Stephens
DB- Williamson
As you can see, not a single walkon at LB. Garrett Stephens was a walk-on at DB but he was surrounded by Putu and Williamson who were both backups and played all last year plus McArthur. The d-line which the in-the-closet moron complained about had Clark who has started multiple games, Polite who played in every game last year and is battling for the second DT spot, and Clayton who is likely to start opposite Zuniga this year, so 3 likely starters on the d-line. Also note that they rotated Stephens OUT the game on multiple drives which I'll also show.
*** the 1st string defense is the one that started the walk-on LB Cristian Garcia. So you idiots bitching about walk-on LB's this entire time and the 2nd team offense was the one that faced a walk-on LB.
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how do you think that he is stanning for franks just because he's not agreeing with you actually doing that same thing for trask... and where in the hell did the last part come from
I see that your weak azz debate is to mindlessly attack your betters, instead of attempting to defend the lying / incorrect chit that you just posted.
And that's probably what you should stick to doing, while the rest of us with functioning brains just continue to laugh at you and shake our heads...
actually anyone that understands the game is not laughing at him at all, and that comment is ironic...
2nd pass, same exact defensive lineup, this time the defense lines up in off man coverage whereas on the previous play they were in zone. McArthur on Hammond and Putu on Callaway. Once again...another play where there aren't any walk-on's covering anybody.
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upload gambarcertificity.com[/URL]3rd pass, defense runs Cover 2 man and presses the corners. That type of coverage demands a tight throw. And aren't no walk-on's covering anybody once again. Seeing a pattern yet? Or do y'all want me to keep going?
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image hosting freecertificity.com[/URL]So yea...y'all just blatantly made shit up. In later series they subbed out both Raymond and Stephens and replaced them with Jordan Smith and Jeawan Taylor and Quincy Lenton. The 2nd team defense for almost the entire night was:
LB-Jeremiah Moon
LB- Rayshad Jackson
LB- Camrin Knight
DT- Khairi Clark
DT- Jachai Polite
DE- Antonneus Clayton
DE- Jordan Smith
DB- McArthur Burnett
DB- Joseph Putu
DB- Jaewon Taylor
DB- Chris Williamson
All guys slated to get tons of PT this year.
LB-Jeremiah Moon
LB- Rayshad Jackson
LB- Camrin Knight
DT- Khairi Clark
DT- Jachai Polite
DE- Antonneus Clayton
DE- Jordan Smith
DB- McArthur Burnett
DB- Joseph Putu
DB- Jaewon Taylor
DB- Chris Williamson
All guys slated to get tons of PT this year.
Come Sept, we'll all see how much you know,,, or don't know, I can wait...
But you two phootball genius types can carry the off season while telling us all how smart and knowledgeable you are. I'll just keep on laughing it up and watch you dancing monkeys go to it...
But you two phootball genius types can carry the off season while telling us all how smart and knowledgeable you are. I'll just keep on laughing it up and watch you dancing monkeys go to it...
There are 4 guys probably slotted ahead of Burnett right now at corner and Wilson and Davis should easily beat him out I would think in the pecking order. I doubt he plays much this year except against the cupcakes or when games are in hand. Burnett is the guy just above the walk ons.
2nd pass, same exact defensive lineup, this time the defense lines up in off man coverage whereas on the previous play they were in zone. McArthur on Hammond and Putu on Callaway. Once again...another play where there aren't any walk-on's covering anybody.
That play was pointed out - Hammond smoked a RS Freshman that has never played a down and probably won't see the field much this year in competitive games unless there are multiple injuries..
McArthur Burnett was redshirted last year. He has a chance to get a good amount of PT this year. I'm pretty sure Burnett is from the "Muck". I wouldn't sell any of those guys short without giving them an opportunity.
Fever is just making stuff up to fit his narrative and then he starts moving the goal posts after that.
Fever is just making stuff up to fit his narrative and then he starts moving the goal posts after that.
I'm not dissing on McArthur, but who do you see him beating out for a lot of quality playing time, since he couldn't seem to cover Hammond?
Projected CB's for 2017 (9)
1) CB/Nic Duke Dawson 5-10 208 Sr
2) Joseph Putu 6-2 195 Sr
3) Chris Williamson 5-11 191 rsSo
4) Chauncey Gardener 5-11 204 So
5) CJ McWilliams 5-11 171 rsFr (ACL)
6) McArthur Burnett 5-9 174 rsFr <<<----------------------<<<<<
2016: McArthur did not appear in any games and redshirted.
#10 Ath/CB C.J. Henderson 6-0 174 Fr - Miami
#13 FS/CB Brad Stewart 6-0 194 Fr - N.O, LA
#13 CB Marco Wilson 6-0 180 Fr - Plantation
#21 S Brian Edwards 6-2 188 Fr - Miramar
#23 S/CB Shawn Davis 6-1 195 Fr - Miami
#33 S Donovan Stiner 6-2 185 Fr - Bellaire, TX
NR McArthur Burnett 5-9 174 *** RR 5.5 - Pahokee, FL
Not many offers, but some decent ones:
UF - AU -- FLAtl, FSU, Mia, UL, WVa (JaJuan Seider)
Projected CB's for 2017 (9)
1) CB/Nic Duke Dawson 5-10 208 Sr
2) Joseph Putu 6-2 195 Sr
3) Chris Williamson 5-11 191 rsSo
4) Chauncey Gardener 5-11 204 So
5) CJ McWilliams 5-11 171 rsFr (ACL)
6) McArthur Burnett 5-9 174 rsFr <<<----------------------<<<<<
2016: McArthur did not appear in any games and redshirted.
#10 Ath/CB C.J. Henderson 6-0 174 Fr - Miami
#13 FS/CB Brad Stewart 6-0 194 Fr - N.O, LA
#13 CB Marco Wilson 6-0 180 Fr - Plantation
#21 S Brian Edwards 6-2 188 Fr - Miramar
#23 S/CB Shawn Davis 6-1 195 Fr - Miami
#33 S Donovan Stiner 6-2 185 Fr - Bellaire, TX
NR McArthur Burnett 5-9 174 *** RR 5.5 - Pahokee, FL
Not many offers, but some decent ones:
UF - AU -- FLAtl, FSU, Mia, UL, WVa (JaJuan Seider)
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I am not making stuff up - some of you are however. Just go look at some of the posts earlier. Heck one tried to act like Hammond was covered by someone on that play who played a little before.
"When Franks completed the long pass early in the game to Hammond Jr he was being covered by a 2nd team CB in Chris Williamson. Your just making stuff up."
You think Burnett is going to get a lot of competitive game playing time when he will probably be about 6th or 7th on the depth chart for like 3 spots? Its speculation now but unless a couple of injuries happen I doubt he is playing DB too much for us in non cupcake games this season.
Yep Wilson is probably going to be able to play right away and it wouldn't surprise me if Davis plays some CB this year also.
Fev, I see Burnett maybe moving to slot-WR when Dre and Powell are gone. Looks to me like his speed might work better there than at any of the DB spots?
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"For 3 spots" - Yep 3 DB positions when we have 5 on the field. He will probably be about 6th or 7th in line for one of those 3 spots.
Pecking order concerning Burnett imo for those 3 spots when 5 DBs are on the field:
1. starter
2. starter
3. starter
4. another DB
5. another DB
6. Another DB or Burnett
7. Another DB or Burnett
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