I understand why you don’t like the metaphor. It answered a question you wanted to continue to ask.
BREAKING: DeSantis to announce Presidential bid tomorrow on Twitter
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Fine let's pretend that's why I don't like the metaphor.
If Trump completely annihilates DeSantis and completely turns his base and Republicans against him, how is that going to affect his ability to govern the state of Florida for the rest of his term and most importantly if it does affect his ability to govern how is it going to impact me as a Floridian?
Sounds to me like your problem is with the guy who chose to leave Florida behind and run. This was always what Trump was going to do to someone who betrayed him.
With all due respect brother.
So are your assumptions and naïveté. Although I suspect it’s not really naïveté.
Failed political campaigns often end up this way. This isn’t something Trump invented. And FWIW, Rons team is trying to do the same. We have been rinsing and repeating this my entire life, with very few exceptions.
Miss me with the intellectually dishonest gamesmanship.
The difference is Harris accused Biden of being a racist pretty much to his face and now she's his VP.
I doubt either Trump or DeSantis forgives or forgets and I don't think it's naive to think that "shouldn't be president" is the wrong take, rather "I'd be a better president."
I'm not necessarily accusing you of it but Trump is not the savior of a America and "if anyone else besides him becomes POTUS we're all doomed" is idiotic. He's probably the best option if elected.
There's a very real possibility, and it speaks to Trumps power over his loyalists, that absolutely dragging DeSantis could have consequences after the election is decided.
Betrayal? Bit dramatic.
For what, having the temerity to run in the Primary? I dont recall RDS swearing an oath of fealty to Trump.
If you think that's gamesmanship it's because you choose to interpret it that way.
No, I think you’re being intellectually dishonest with the statements like…
If Desantis isn’t a threat, and is Down by 30 why keep bringing him up.
My belief is you already know why. Because you keep going until the game is over. Like Ghost said, it’s not difficult to figure out. It’s because it’s working.
And statements like:
Me: This was always what Trump was going to do to someone who betrayed him.
You: That statement is problematic.
Go ahead, rather than making vague statements, and in some cases over and over again. Explain why. What, specifically, is problematic?
I want to hear the assumptions you made in your interpretation of my statement.
Lastly, statements like:
Betrayal? Bit dramatic.
For what, having the temerity to run in the Primary?
That’s quite the intentional over simplification, unless you haven’t been paying attention. IMO
Ron was running a shadow campaign, and Trump had no other choice than to expose it early. He was and IS being backed by the establishment that Trump is fighting. That’s a pretty big betrayal.
There has also been example after example of Ron publicly backing Trumps positions at a given time to appeal to MAGA, only to contradict that position either privately, or later publicly.
One of the more interesting recent examples is his refusal to talk about whether or not the 2020 election was stolen. The interesting part of that one to me? That should be a deal breaker for many of the posters on here that have been pushing election integrity for 3 years now. I know it is for his MAGA base, and it just might be the biggest betrayal of all.
And you want to talk about far reaching consequences?
There are no bigger consequences than us not having fair elections.
It's stunning that this needs to be said outloud.
Every vote in this nation is completely worthless until we secure the elections. I don't know how it gets any more important than that.
I mean I get it, Ron is Floridas Governor, and he did a good job for the most part during covid (Although I prefer what Noem did). And for that reason, folks seem to be having difficulty coming to grips with some of the outright stunning BS he is pulling right now.
But the election integrity issue, should be a jolt to anyone that believes we have major election integrity issues. If Ron won’t stand for that, then WTF do you think will happen later?
It's problematic because it's not about Trump.
If DeSantis is being pimped put by the establishment uniparty and the main goal of the establishment is to control the election process, he hasn't betrayed Trump
He's betrayed us. If Trump wants to take the betrayal of America personally, great. But he's not, he's taking it as an affront to DJT and I suspect most of his loyalists see it that way too.
End justifies the means I suppose.
It's a bit of a stretch to go from don't compleletly hamstring the governor to I don't care about election integrity.
Preach. All the bs the food companies tell and feed people. Good fats being villainized, fat free food, etc….
The obesity epidemic in the country is out of control. Strain on the economy. Fats ass kids walking around. National security issue. And so on….
I think Noem has slipped between the sheets with the RINOs as well. At least the RINOs in SD.
DeSantis campaign launch escalates extremely online war with Trump
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s official campaign launch on Wednesday underscored how the battle for the Republican presidential nomination will, to a large extent, be fought online.
Rove is running DeSantis' campaign. right?
Yep he advises it at least. Someone probably told him to deflect on that.
Correct. He has betrayed us, but also Trump.
You don’t know his loyalists very well.
Don’t take my word for it though, a simple search on twitter of Desantis betrayal, (which at one point was trending) will show you tweet after tweet of Trump supporters stating as much. A betrayal of MAGA.
We are 7 years into MAGA and folks seem to still not understand that MAGA is the people.
This my friend, I disagree.
They want both gone. I love Trump and DeSantis. My hope it’s a Trump / DeSantis ticket giving us 16 years to clean this shit up.
lol..Rove has been advising that shadow campaign before it even became official. His lack of common sense is probably why the morons had Jeb Bush and company come out for DeSantis even while running a Trojan horse strategy at the time. Its crazy all the money they are putting into this but they still have no one in charge that has a clue how to try and successfully fool the base.
Why would DeSantis drop out? His strategy seems to be positioning himself as the de facto backup candidate in case Trump can’t run due to legal/health issues. All he has to do is hold on to his number two position.
Not sure what DeSantis does. They are hoping the left can get some all crazed lefty jury and convict Trump on some nonsense but Trump will have already rolled by that point. Trump needs to make sure his delegates will choose who he asks them to choose just in case something really crazy happened.
Yeah. It hurts me to see an obese child. Its not normal to have the number of fat children as we have. We are several generations into the fast food, microwave tv dinner, gallons of mountain dew for breakfast culture. Our culture wouldnt even know where to begin turning this around. You see people trying to do the right thing by drinking slimfast and eating lean cuisine micowave meals. Over fed and under nurished. Its alarming.
Karl Rove's name does not appear on the DeSantis campaign roster
If it was that would mean Ron is the dumbest human being on the planet.
Take that how you want.
🤣 After that spread around the net they know not to give Rove any title in the actual campaign.
DeSantis called DEI 'discrimination, exclusion and indoctrination'.
Eh, that can be spun that way, or said he was so popular he broke Twitter.
I think the bigger question that no one is asking is 'Why do this on Twitter?' And I think the answer is, he couldn't do it on Fox cause then he wouldn't get the ratings that Trump's Town Hall got, then he would be embarrassed. I would bet dollars to donuts that Trump found out he was gonna do an announcement on Fox, and that's why he went to CNN and pitched them on the idea of a Town Hall, to pin DeSantis in a corner.
If that's what happened, then more 5D chess by Trump.
🤣 DeSantis people thinking they can actually use Covid to help DeSantis beat Trump. Maybe someone like Noem could make some good points with that but not stay at home order and do a 2nd set of restrictions/closures because the lefty media said you were killing seniors DeSantis.
I think he damn sure does! Only thing will hold this cat back is who he jumps in bed with.
I think the bigger issue is if he went on Fox it would fall into the Karl Rove, Rupert Murdoch book tour narrative.
As for the Discipline piece, that was the quote in the article. Too funny.
The consensus is the launch was a disaster. That’s why they are pushing for a “reset”. Again.
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DeSantis's twitter announcement?
I am glad DeSantis exposed himself though if you looked at his past it kind of gives it away. He showed in that one leaked video he knows you need Trump's base to win and it isn't smart to tick them off but once they paid him off with that book deal etc. he was locked in basically unless they let him out and because of all these joke charges coming they wouldn't do that. Trump better make sure he has faithful delegates just in case they got an all crazed lefty jury to pull some crap. Worst case scenario if the appeal courts didn't step in he could tell them to support Ramaswamy or someone like that.
Yep. And the consensus, outside of Rons inner circle, is that the Launch on twitter was a really bad. And quite honestly, that’s the consensus within as well.
Hence, “The reset”
