This entire thread can be summed up thusly:
No one:
MDF: GO BUY A TESLA
Everyone else: No.
No one:
MDF: GO BUY A TESLA
Everyone else: No.
Batteries cost more than the car
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He drives a severely devalued 6 year old Tesla that he purchased second hand almost two years ago.
Also he has a HUGE bill coming pretty soon, because he is way down the hill on battery life. And I will bet you when he has to fork out 15-25 k for a battery for a car only worth about 20 k, he will change his tune.
I am sure they are awesome sauce. That doesn’t change the fact they don’t meet my needs and I don’t feel they are a particularly good value.
I also need a truck and the Cybertruck is the dumbest looking thing I’ve ever seen.
You sure are taking my needs in a vehicle personally. It’s kinda weird.
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Apple made a market that they are 20% of? That’s odd.
Global Smartphone Market Share: Quarterly - Counterpoint
The global smartphone market grew by 7% YoY to reach 323.2 million units in Q4 2023. Apple grew by 2% YoY, overtaking Samsung for the top spot
www.counterpointresearch.com
They’re popular in the US where the Model Y is 5th, not 1st.
Tesla got a head start but the move was investing in battery tech. Vertical integration has improved their profitability and given them another profit center. And until the Cybertruck they’ve focused on organic, classic designs with flowing lines like seen in nature. Tesla makes beautiful cars.
And I am not a little kid - an EV might be the coolest car ever, but so are Ferrari’s. That doesn’t mean the Ferrari fits my lifestyle and what I need from a vehicle.
I’m confused as to why this concept is so difficult for you to grasp.
No...they are not. They are FAST off the line. If you have a small one between your legs and in need of compensating...you would LOVE one. However...after quickness...they are GARBAGE.
I never said buy one I say go test drive a tessy familiarize with the future. Smarten up.
No need...I am in my 60's and it will not happen in my lifetime...THANK GOD
Yes nickel, Apple made the market 15 years ago. Tessy is leading the way in ev’s and a general transition to renewable energy. Smarten up.Apple made a market that they are 20% of? That’s odd.
Global Smartphone Market Share: Quarterly - Counterpoint
The global smartphone market grew by 7% YoY to reach 323.2 million units in Q4 2023. Apple grew by 2% YoY, overtaking Samsung for the top spot
They’re popular in the US where the Model Y is 5th, not 1st.
Tesla got a head start but the move was investing in battery tech. Vertical integration has improved their profitability and given them another profit center. And until the Cybertruck they’ve focused on organic, classic designs with flowing lines like seen in nature. Tesla makes beautiful cars.
And I am not a little kid - an EV might be the coolest car ever, but so are Ferrari’s. That doesn’t mean the Ferrari fits my lifestyle and what I need from a vehicle.
I’m confused as to why this concept is so difficult for you to grasp.
What will Never happen? It’s never too late to learn son. Go test drive a model S and report back. That’s a direct order.
Are you high?
Macs are overpriced and under powered and MacOs is not only easy to hack it's just a pretty window manager over UNIX.
Macs are for people with too much money that don't know how to use the linux kernel.
Jobs wasn't even a coder FFS.
We are talking about smart phones nickel. Pay attention or I will send you to the corner.
Lol. My ten year old Samsung phone has all the features as an iPhone 14 and I paid 100 dollars for it. I can also root it and put different operating systems on it.
So I requested an EV Uber last night to the airport in ATL.
Guy showed up in a model 3.
The good: I like the minimalist interior design, the center console screen is cool, sensors and display showing pedestrians and other cars was neat (although a ‘24 accord I rented had similar sensors). Cameras when blinkers go on, etc, it was cool overall in the cockpit.
The bad: Rode like a skateboard. Chassis is STIFF. Noisy and cheap sounding over bumps. You could feel the weight and the lower center of gravity than a normal car. Interior materials were garbage for a car of that cost…seats felt like vinyl. Fit and finish was on par with Chevy 5 years ago.
Struck me as a car that might be fun to drive but zero luxury and a little bit of fools gold - looks the part but doesn’t seem like it’s really quality. Interior of my 2012 RRS is much richer and higher quality. Even my son’s 2012 535i seemed a notch better in the quality dept.
Be a fun “extra” car to have if you needed a toy. But I’m not sure I’d want one as a DD.
5-7 years ago I’d fight you over this post.
Today you’re 100% right. My wife’s 4YO MBPro is slow AF. I’ve done everything I can to make it run better and my shitty work Dell laptop running Windows 11 is much faster. And we paid $1600 for that Mac.
I think Apple is speeding up the planned obsolescence. The new iOS versions are taxing old hardware faster than they used to, so each update bogs it down a little more each time.
I think MS has come a long way with Windows 11, and it’s going to really hurt Apple if they don’t get their sh!t together. I’ll never buy another Mac.
Now iPhones - I do like my phone. It’s reliable and fast. Battery life is still good almost 3 years in. I don’t hack or jailbreak or whatever so I’m fine with the proprietary OS.
I refuse to do business with a company that allows no third-party software or hardware.
Also I can put Linux on anything from a server with 12 8 core processors to a i386 1.2 mhz computer with 256mb of ram. It's portable and scalable that's why it's the is of choice for servers and why they based the android kernel off it. and since updates are upstream and downstream, bugfixes and patches happen at least weekly if not daily. MS and Mac are going backwards with their silly proprietary bs. GNU/GPL is the way. It is known.
Wrf does that have to with the price of tea in chy nah? Apple pioneered the smart phone the iPad the iPod Steve Jobs genius was he was a visionary. Not the best computer guy. Elon is similar we will see if the results are similar. Elons undertaking was much much more difficult. So far so good. Go educate yourself. Model S will blow your skirt right off
I might do that.
I did it once way back in the day with an iMac and it worked pretty well.
And grey market W11 licenses are $20
Use 7 it's far more useful on a Mac. Plus licenses can be had for free off an old computer with a sticker.
If you aren't playing the latest games almost everything will run on 7 with out all the memory residents and endless registry issues. plus you have to turn windows defender off in 11 to use third party software. 11 is a bloated proprietary mess, worst thing since Vista.
Personally I'd run Linux, either Ubuntu or Arch. Mint even.
That’s interesting.
I upgraded my kid’s gaming computer from 10 to 11 and everything ran better. 10 seemed to use more system resources on background stuff.
Did a clean install on a more basic computer w/it as well.
I'm not familiar with ten I stopped using windows in 2006.
I weaned my elderly parents off 11 to Linux Mint when it came out.
Well RN we are dealing with a potentially water damaged Gogabyte 3700’RTX, when that’s fixed I’ll dig into W11 more.
Our work PC’s are totally locked down. I can’t see anything.
Get a github account. That is where bleeding edge open source support lives.
Compiling modules for peripherals is now easy as cloning a repository and running a script. One enterprising fellow figured out how to enable bluetooth 5.2 in a wifi6 dongle that doesnt have MS drivers yet. And the manufactures merely left not instruction set for a dual use chip, rather than blacklisting it.
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I have Mint. I tinker with various distros but not on a scripting or programming level. I only fool with that when there is a problem. Fortunately that is becoming more rare.
Its been 25 years since I wrote a C program on BSDi Unix.
The programs working correctly out of the box means I am rusty and my knowledge is becoming antiquated.
I also have Windows 10 and 11. Budgeting, email and web browsing dont require much. I have not played Civilization or Call of Duty in years. I do crosswords and other puzzles on my phone. Man I am getting old.
Long gone are the days of needing to customize ini files after loading a base os (windows 3.11) on a PC using a handy ZIP drive because the customers network was a partial T1 ( translation slow.) Or writing a bat file script to help automate a win 95 install.
Macrium, et al has it covered LOL.
Looks like retirement will be starlink, netflix, email (Thunderbird) and the Firefox/Brave/Tor browsers. OS is meaningless and Linux goes on older machines as support from the evil empire is removed for whatever flavor of Windows I am using.
I have 11 on a Laptop I bought on clearance for $89 dollars at the other evil empire known as Walmart. I have yet to be burned for buying display models on clearance. Crossing fingers.
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I have Mint. I tinker with various distros but not on a scripting or programming level. I only fool with that when there is a problem. Fortunately that is becoming more rare.
Its been 25 years since I wrote a C program on BSDi Unix.
The programs working correctly out of the box means I am rusty and my knowledge is becoming antiquated.
I also have Windows 10 and 11. Budgeting, email and web browsing dont require much. I have not played Civilization or Call of Duty in years. I do crosswords and other puzzles on my phone. Man I am getting old.
Long gone are the days of needing to customize ini files after loading a base os (windows 3.11) on a PC using a handy ZIP drive because the customers network was a partial T1 ( translation slow.) Or writing a bat file script to help automate a win 95 install.
Macrium, et al has it covered LOL.
Looks like retirement will be starlink, netflix, email (Thunderbird) and the Firefox/Brave/Tor browsers. OS is meaningless and Linux goes on older machines as support from the evil empire is removed for whatever flavor of Windows I am using.
I have 11 on a Laptop I bought on clearance for $89 dollars at the other evil empire known as Walmart. I have yet to be burned for buying display models on clearance. Crossing fingers.
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The cyber truck interior has as much room as the Chevy Malibu. I'll stick with the Ford F250 and its spacious interior.
And it’s huge
I was shocked at the size when I saw one in person a few weeks ago.
And that SS skin is going to make a car category that’s extremely expensive to fix in a wreck absolutely astronomical.
It might be the dumbest thing ever engineered.
In all seriousness it's high martensite cold rolled steel. It's not going to dent. And it's going to be sort of an exoskeleton in a crash. Tool and die costs will be pretty low as well. That's why DeLorean chose it in the 60s.
However, you can't form it that's why the design is planar. (flat panels) When it deforms it can't be fixed and at 3mm thick it's heavy.
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