Coach Shart sure fits in well there.
I mean, look at that picture. He literally has a red neck.
Anybody want to talk football?
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Coach Shart sure fits in well there.
I mean, look at that picture. He literally has a red neck.
I know that’s a fun graphic for you guys, but if you really think Mark Richt was fired for what he did in his first few seasons, I don’t know what to tell you. He was fired for what he did starting in 2010. Should have been fired after losing to UCF. Fine by me if you want to think Kirby follows the same path, but we will go ahead and play the games anyway. I don’t think you’ll feel the same way in a few more years though.
You guys are anti-Richt but all about Smart.
So why not compare the first three years of smart and Richt?
Are you that dense?
Oooooh, that's right.
You are.
But spin the narrative as usual.
It isn’t about saying Smart will end the same way as Richt and you’re smart enough to know that. As this board has shown all offseason you guys act as if Smart is sooooo far ahead of where you’ve been before and have all but guaranteed a run of dominance over UF with multiple championships to flow.
The entire point is UGA has been at this point before and it didn’t end the way many of you hoped or predicted, so maybe slow down on the guarantees until it actually happens. Smart could go on to be the next Saban or he could remain stagnant and not get over the hump like Richt or he could flame out. You have no idea.
It proves that 3 years of success at the current UGa level does not guarantee future success at that same level, as you all claim it does.
Truth is that the program is only getting stronger and more talented every year. Ignore it if you want to.
So ironic hearing you guys talk about spinning things...
Before Kirby, when was the last time we played for a national title and had number one recruiting classes? I’ll hang up and listen. I don’t recall being at this level in my lifetime.
That said, I hear what you’re saying to a certain extent but, Kirby ain’t richt and this administration is all in!
Showed an L on your record the last 2 season's, which obviously you are choosing to ignore. Very likely, and you know it too, to do it for the 3rd time this fall.
I not sure you gators even realize you have to pass UK.to even be the 2nd place finisher in the East. Don't comeback with it was a fluke win, UF has had 2 against them since Stoops got there, time was out and the officials gave UF a chance to kick a FG to tie, and 2 Yes against uncovered WR. Last year they physically abused you.
It takes no spin to point out your blatant stupidity when making incorrect untruthful claims.
"Getting stronger and more talented every year" for example.
2017 - 13-2 SEC-C, CFP runnerup.
2018 - 11-3 - No SEC-C, not even in the CFP, then lost the SEC's Sugar Bowl to #15 Texass
TRUTH??? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH..
6. UF
7. LSU
8. UGly
11. UK
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It took you 2 days to think of how to respond to my post?
Another post from another thread in which it took you another 2 days to respond to a post created by grommit. Why don't you give us something the other Georgia fans haven't posted on here for the past 8 months.
Totally pathetic how you have to use your fellow Georgia fans words, while taking 2 days to do so, just to respond to grommit and myself.
Ooh! A rare winning streak against Florida. LSU, FSU and a few other teams had more success in having a winning streak against UF. It took Georgia about 30 years to get a winning streak against Florida. We're still 5-5 in the last 10 seasons while Georgia is 8-21 against Florida the past 29 years.
When Georgia has 3 undisputed National Championships, then you can talk. Key word, undisputed, like Florida's 3 titles. Till then, what you post here and what you say on the streets about Georgia doesn't mean sh**!
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Richt and Georgia were in contention for the title on several occasions but the SEC was competitive back then with not only Georgia, but Florida and Tennessee consistently competed for the East back before and when Kirby was a DC at Bama. Sometimes I forget how Florida, Georgia and Tennessee were the ones beating each other half to death just to earn a trip to Atlanta. Tennessee had their share of struggles with success under Fulmer. Florida struggled on occasion with Spurrier and Meyer, as like Richt with Georgia. Don't think the same can't happen to Kirby.
Mark Richt
2001: 8-4 #22
2002: 13-1 #3 (SEC Champs)
2003: 11-3 #7
2004: 10-2 #7 (preseason ranked #3)
Kirby Smart
2016: 8-5 UR (preseason #18)
2017: 13-2 #2 (SEC Champs)
2018: 11-3 #7 (preseason ranked #3)
Yes. Please tell me how terribly different Richt and Smart have started their careers at Georgia (both first time head coaches and both 40-41 years old when they got the job.
You guys can't be this ridiculous.
2001: 8-4 #22
2002: 13-1 #3 (SEC Champs)
2003: 11-3 #7
2004: 10-2 #7 (preseason ranked #3)
Kirby Smart
2016: 8-5 UR (preseason #18)
2017: 13-2 #2 (SEC Champs)
2018: 11-3 #7 (preseason ranked #3)
Yes. Please tell me how terribly different Richt and Smart have started their careers at Georgia (both first time head coaches and both 40-41 years old when they got the job.
You guys can't be this ridiculous.
Had there been a playoffs in 2002, UGA would have gotten in as a #3 seed, just like UGA in 2017. Considering that team was loaded, they likely end up in the title game. You aren't comparing like situations. If there was no playoffs in 2017 UGA wouldn't have played for a title either since they weren't ranked in the top 2, no different from UGA's 2002 team.
This is like third time this has been pointed out. It’s like a weird selective amnesia these people have. They hype around Richt was just as strong at the time. Back then it was Miami and USC as the national brands soaking up all the attention that UGA wanted to be a part of. Now it’s Clemson and Bama.
Smart is kicking the hell out of UF on and off the field, Richt was doing neither. So now you have the answer so no need to ask again.
You fail to bring up how well McElwain did his first year at UF, going 10-2, winning the East, going 10-3 his 2nd year, again winning the East, 2 division titles in 2 years, something Mullen didn't accomplish once, but did manage to fish as high as he ever did, 3rd. The real question should be will he last as long as Mcelwain? After all the success Mullen's first team had was due to McElwain's players.
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The sec wasn’t very competitive when Richt won it in 2002 and 2005. We beat ARKANSAS in 2002...think about that. Richt struggled with Meyer at Florida, Saban at Bama, and Spurrier at Carolina.
Rich was a damn good coach early on with Jim Donnan’s players. Our lines were stout back then until Richt tried to turn us into FSU 2.0. He recruited exceptional skill players, but recruited linemen similar to the ones Mullen is bringing in. He failed to realize that the SEC is usually won in the trenches. Kirby is stacking 5 star linemen...big difference.
No, you’re stupid! Did I do it right?It takes no spin to point out your blatant stupidity when making incorrect untruthful claims.
"Getting stronger and more talented every year" for example.
2017 - 13-2 SEC-C, CFP runnerup.
2018 - 11-3 - No SEC-C, not even in the CFP, then lost the SEC's Sugar Bowl to #15 Texass
TRUTH??? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH..
6. UF
7. LSU
8. UGly
11. UK
Whose players were they when Kirby was playing for a national title in year 2? Because if year 2 for Richt was because of Donnan’s players whose OL produced two 1,000 yard rushers in 2017? Richt or Kirby’s? Remember if the playoffs existed in 2002 Richt would have had UGA in the top 4.
Simple Jax back with a simple vengeance.
Not only did the 2017 line (full of Richt players) pave the way for two 1,000 yard rushers, but UGA consistently had some of the best running games in the country under Richt. Whether it was Musa Smith to Knowshon to Gurley to Michel and Chubb (more Richt scrubs) and on and on. But let these guys tell it they never had a good oline under Richt. Always the same circular argument. Facts don't care about feelings. They FEEL they're at a level they've never been, therefore it's true.
Yep, you did it just like expected. UGly's 2018 was better than 2017, and here's to hoping that 'better' trend continues in the direction that it is going...
2017 - 13-2 SEC-C, CFP runner-up.
2018 - 11-3 - No SEC-C, not even in the CFP, then lost the SEC's Sugar Bowl to #15 Texass
6. UF
7. LSU
8. UGly
11. UK
Well Richt damn sure couldn’t get anything out of them. Does Kirby get credit for coaching up and motivating some of Richt’s players to reach their full potential?
I’m cool with the nickname though. Has a nice ring to it.
So that entire offensive line was made up of Richt’s players? You don’t know as much as you think you do, hoss.
Absolutely he gets all of the credit that he deserves.
The Retch's last season = 10-3
The 4th&Dumb's first season = 8-5
Way to coach um up genius...
Did I say that? You either put words in people’s mouths or use terrible reading comprehension post after post. The core of the team as a whole were his players. Both backs were his players. The point is, which I unsurpsingly went over your head, is that UGA always had stout running games through Richt’s tenure. That couldn’t have happened if the line was as bad as posters like you consistently try to portray.
All that is irrelevant to the initial discussion anyway. You claimed you don’t recall UGA competing for national titles, and I simply pointed out to you that the format to decide championships have changed. So you’re wrong on that. And not to mention UGA was a snap away from playing for a title other times as well (2007 & 2012 instantly come to mind). So your feelings don’t align with the facts.
See, this is what I'm talking about. There are no guarantees, bub.
I might have told you the exact same thing about UF in 2009, but where did it go from there?
Just some 'talking season' points to consider for 2019.
The last time that Dan (OC) was running the offense at UF, they rushed for over 3,000 season yards, without a single runner going over 1,000 yds.
In his 1st year back at UF, the team rushed for 2,771 yards, without a single runner going over 1,000 yds, and with a suspect OL with new coaches and system.
I'm thinking that 3,000+ rushing yards should be the Gator's new OL's goal for 2019...
So get to work big-uns, I want to see some serious 'Strange' work getting done between now and Aug 24th.
The last time that Dan (OC) was running the offense at UF, they rushed for over 3,000 season yards, without a single runner going over 1,000 yds.
In his 1st year back at UF, the team rushed for 2,771 yards, without a single runner going over 1,000 yds, and with a suspect OL with new coaches and system.
I'm thinking that 3,000+ rushing yards should be the Gator's new OL's goal for 2019...
So get to work big-uns, I want to see some serious 'Strange' work getting done between now and Aug 24th.
He thinks everyone here is just being a douche to him but posts like that consistently just shows the dude isn’t very smart. Nobody here has said Smart is gonna be exactly like Richt or that he’ll be worse or that he won’t win anything. Never seen worse comprehension from a group of posts. Something as simple as saying that Smart’s first three years doesn’t guarantee anything means you’re spinning. Anything less than declaring them champions for the next 20 years is unacceptable.
There’s been plenty of coaches that started off on fire and couldn’t maintain it. We’ve had two of them. Then there’s Miles at LSU, Malzahn at Auburn, Stoops at OU, Jimbo at FSU, etc. Smart is TBD. Not to them though, declare him the bestest ever NOW or you’re spinning.
Lol the dawgs have no interest in looking at Richt's first four years.
Doesn't fit the narrative at all.
Figures.
Doesn't fit the narrative at all.
Figures.
Does Richt get any credit for getting the most out of those incredible Donnan players you simpletons keeping pumping up? I would say how do you not understand how flawed your own arguments are but you wouldn’t be Simple Jax any other way.
Maybe you should stop generalizing. I’m not predicting or guaranteeing a thing. In fact, I am on record as saying we could always lose to UF, AU, UT. Never feel 100% about playing Sakerlina most years either. The other Dawgs are feee to say whatever they please, just stop saying all of us this or that. There’s a few of you predicting an ass kicking is coming for the Dawgs, but you don’t see me having a hissy fit about it.
You're one reasonable poster in a sea of clowns. I know you've seen some of yours who have infested this board all off-season. The generalization fits for who its intended for.
2002 and 2005 were transition years with Zook and Meyer. Arkansas and Auburn weren't that bad in 2002 either. LSU just won the 2003 BCS title in between those years mentioned. I hope you're not saying the SEC was garbage in 2002 and 2005. A crappy Florida team beat Georgia that year.
How about naming several coaches who didn't struggle against Spurrier, Meyer and Saban. Don't forget Les Miles was no slouch and Phil Fulmer was still winning ball games till 2008.
Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Please let us know all about the juggernauts richt was dismantling from 2002-2005.
Absolutely. Richt was great for a few years. Unfortunately, his brand of football didn’t work in the sec long term. I will guarantee you that Kirby’s brand will work. What do you think about that, homeboy?
I’m not going to take you serious until you call me stupid, though.
There are several dawg posters giving Florida credit, including me. You just throw a temper tantrum when said dawg posters don’t agree with you. Anyone that doesn’t agree with you is a clown...
As that is true, you and other dawg fans act as if the rest of the SEC aren't doing things to get stronger. 5 other SEC teams were ranked in the top 10 recruiting rankings and 7 in the top 15. Majority of those same teams are loading up on talented coordinators and position coaches. All are getting stronger by putting together top notch strength and conditioning staffs. Talk about spinning things, you act as if UGA is the only program getting stronger and talented. I see why they call you simple Jax.
