Anybody want to talk football?

[TennesseeGator]

Showed an L on your record the last 2 season's, which obviously you are choosing to ignore. Very likely, and you know it too, to do it for the 3rd time this fall.

I not sure you gators even realize you have to pass UK.to even be the 2nd place finisher in the East. Don't comeback with it was a fluke win, UF has had 2 against them since Stoops got there, time was out and the officials gave UF a chance to kick a FG to tie, and 2 Yes against uncovered WR. Last year they physically abused you.

Smart is kicking the hell out of UF on and off the field, Richt was doing neither. So now you have the answer so no need to ask again.

You fail to bring up how well McElwain did his first year at UF, going 10-2, winning the East, going 10-3 his 2nd year, again winning the East, 2 division titles in 2 years, something Mullen didn't accomplish once, but did manage to fish as high as he ever did, 3rd. The real question should be will he last as long as Mcelwain? After all the success Mullen's first team had was due to McElwain's players.

Do you not see how you totally contradicted your own posts?

You speak of McElwain getting lucky by having a fluke win vs Stoops but turn around and act as if Mc was a great coach with a loaded roster.


But then again you are off on Mc's record...he was 10-4 in year 1 and 9-4 in year 2. You also conveniently left out his last year he was let go with a 3-4 record and that loaded roster you speak of finished 4-7. Also failing to mention Mullen improved that 4-7 team to 10-3. For shits and giggles let's conveniently leave out Mc didn't beat LSU in his first season nor win his bowl game.

You seriously think Mc's recruiting powers are why Mullen won? You don't think Mullen can win with a recruiting class that had already ranked higher than anything Mc ever signed?

 

[TennesseeGator]

Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Please let us know all about the juggernauts richt was dismantling from 2002-2005.

What juggernauts has Smart dismantled 2016-2018?

 

[TennesseeGator]

Before Kirby, when was the last time we played for a national title and had number one recruiting classes? I’ll hang up and listen. I don’t recall being at this level in my lifetime.

That said, I hear what you’re saying to a certain extent but, Kirby ain’t richt and this administration is all in!

The first 3 years of the Richt tenure, his signing class averaged top 5 rankings. It wasn't until 2010 he signed a class that ranked outside of the top 10. He followed up the next class with a #5 ranking.

 

[tbbuc99]

Ah so now it's the OC's fault?

So let's see....

We're too young
The refs cheated us
We were changing the culture
The players didn't execute
The OC didn't call the right plays


The list of excuses keeps getting longer and longer....but guess who you never blame?

The guy in charge.

Fake punt at mid field on 4th and forever....kirby “not” smart....that is all!

 

[Jaxbchdawg]

What juggernauts has Smart dismantled 2016-2018?

We are the juggernaut. Not one east team has come close to beating us in two years...

 

[Jaxbchdawg]

As that is true, you and other dawg fans act as if the rest of the SEC aren't doing things to get stronger. 5 other SEC teams were ranked in the top 10 recruiting rankings and 7 in the top 15. Majority of those same teams are loading up on talented coordinators and position coaches. All are getting stronger by putting together top notch strength and conditioning staffs. Talk about spinning things, you act as if UGA is the only program getting stronger and talented. I see why they call you simple Jax.

Well, there’s programs that recruit #1 classes and then there’s those that recruit top 10 and top 15 classes. Which would you rather be? Pretty SIMPLE answer if you ask me.

 

[fsumc]

We are the juggernaut. Not one east team has come close to beating us in two years...

A three loss juggernaut. Haha! Simple Jax you are the greatest.

 

[fsumc]

Absolutely. Richt was great for a few years. Unfortunately, his brand of football didn’t work in the sec long term. I will guarantee you that Kirby’s brand will work. What do you think about that, homeboy?

I’m not going to take you serious until you call me stupid, though.

Oh good a guarantee. All everyone here has been telling you is that everything you’re hyped up about has been hyped up before with Richt. Your current guarantee great coach has already choked away two opportunities to win and at least play for a national title. Hell last season he didn’t just make a special teams blunder against Alabama he did so against LSU too. When the game gets tight so does Kirby. Hold on to your hope, Simple Jax. Right now the only thing people are impressed with about Kirby is his recruiting, not his game day decisions.

 

[TennesseeGator]

We are the juggernaut. Not one east team has come close to beating us in two years...

The juggernauts of the East Division. The throne that Jim McElwain held for the same amount of years as Kirby Smart has held. I love the lofty standards. Go ahead with the "Dan Mullen has never been there" considering he has one lone year in the division.

 

[Jaxbchdawg]

A three loss juggernaut. Haha! Simple Jax you are the greatest.

Nothing simple about sweeping your division two years in a row. Know what I mean?

 

[Jaxbchdawg]

The juggernauts of the East Division. The throne that Jim McElwain held for the same amount of years as Kirby Smart has held. I love the lofty standards. Go ahead with the "Dan Mullen has never been there" considering he has one lone year in the division.

Dan Mullen hasn’t won anything in ten years as a head coach. And he finished 3rd in the juggernaut east last year.

 

[oozie7]

There are several dawg posters giving Florida credit, including me. You just throw a temper tantrum when said dawg posters don’t agree with you. Anyone that doesn’t agree with you is a clown...

Plenty of people disagree with me, your posts are what mark you as a clown. See posts on this page of you contradicting yourself one post after another with shitty logic.

 

[TennesseeGator]

Well, there’s programs that recruit #1 classes and then there’s those that recruit top 10 and top 15 classes. Which would you rather be? Pretty SIMPLE answer if you ask me.

Depends on what a coach can do developing the talent. There are coaching staffs that can get top 10 talent and develop it into a championship winning team(Clemson) there are staffs who have top 5 talent and piss it away (Butch Jones), there are top staffs who consistently get top 5 talent and consistently develop it into championship winning teams (Saban...Meyer in the past)

Then there are those who get top ranked classes and lose to Ed O Tom Herman.. just kidding, I had to go there, keep the panties unwaded it's just some bs-ing.

 

[oozie7]

Didn't Auburn have an undefeated season during that time frame as well?

In 2001 UT, UF, and LSU won 11 games including their bowl games in convincing fashion. In 2002 UGA went 13-1 and won the Sugar Bowl and Bama went 10-3 and actually won the West but was ineligible to play because they were on probation, Jax conveniently leaves that out when bringing up Arkansas. In 2003 4 teams won 10 or more games (most of any conference that year) and LSU won the national championship. In 2004 Auburn goes undefeated and should have played for a title and UT and UGA both won 10 games, the East was actually the best division that year. From 2005 onward both Saban and Meyer was in the SEC and the SEC's run started the very next year. The SEC was actually more competitive back then than it is now with one team owning everybody.

In other words...add this to the long list of shit Jax is wrong about. He and others have to continually dismiss Richt's early career to validate their feeling they're so much better off now. Facts be damned.

 

[oozie7]

And while numbnuts keeps bragging about sweeping the East, he conveniently forgets that in 2017 the East was rated as the second worst Power 5 division. That year two coaches in the East were fired. The record of East teams outside of UGA:

SC: 9-4 (5-3)
UK: 7-6 (4-4)
Mizzou: 7-6 (4-4)
UF: 4-7 (3-5)
Vandy: 5-7 (1-7)
UT: 4-8 (0-8)

So he'll brag about Kirby dominating this shitty division while simultaneously downplaying what Richt did because "the SEC wasn't strong bro!" all because Richt beat a 4-loss Arkansas team in the title game. But wait...Kirby beat a 3-loss Auburn team to win his SEC Title. But I guess that's so different. Thats why he's Simple Jax.

 

[TennesseeGator]

Nothing simple about sweeping your division two years in a row. Know what I mean?

What coach ever won anything at Mississippi State? Huge difference from the West with Saban, Miles, a year with Cam vs a Division that had Butch Jones, Jim McElwain, Jeremy Pruitt, a fvcking conference QB's that Luke Del Rio and Treon Harris won.

Honestly could Kirby have won the West at Mississippi State during the timeframe Mullen was there?

 

[TennesseeGator]

Dan Mullen hasn’t won anything in ten years as a head coach. And he finished 3rd in the juggernaut east last year.

First year in the division with majority of players he didn't recruit for his system. Where did Smart finish his first year in the division? Behind Butch and Mc...along with losing to Mason.

Damn you come up with the same simple argument for the past 6 months.

 

[oozie7]

You're wasting your time with people who couldn't spell cat if you spotted them the C and the T. They're incapable of adding context to any discussion.

Since 2007, only 3 teams not named Alabama have won the West. An LSU team that had upwards of 30 future NFL picks on it with guys like Odell Beckham, Auburn with Heisman Trophy winning Cam who might be the best college football QB of all-time, and Auburn in 2017. Every other year it's been Bama while in the middle of the best run college football has ever seen. UGA with the best of everything according to the idiots here can't beat Saban, but Mullen was supposed to at MSU because umm, well, that's what all good coaches do. Which makes you wonder why they consider Kang Kirby to be good when he can't beat Saban either. Dumbasses.

 

[Jaxbchdawg]

Depends on what a coach can do developing the talent. There are coaching staffs that can get top 10 talent and develop it into a championship winning team(Clemson) there are staffs who have top 5 talent and piss it away (Butch Jones), there are top staffs who consistently get top 5 talent and consistently develop it into championship winning teams (Saban...Meyer in the past)

Then there are those who get top ranked classes and lose to Ed O Tom Herman.. just kidding, I had to go there, keep the panties unwaded it's just some bs-ing.

Wonder if Clemson would have as much success if they weren’t in the ACC? Rhetorical question by the way. They deserve credit for beating bama, but they have such an easy path to the playoffs every year.

Jury is still out on Kirby as an elite coach but I like the direction it’s heading. If he can’t get it done in the next two years I’m going to be a little concerned.

 

[Jaxbchdawg]

First year in the division with majority of players he didn't recruit for his system. Where did Smart finish his first year in the division? Behind Butch and Mc...along with losing to Mason.

Damn you come up with the same simple argument for the past 6 months.

I haven’t been here for 6 months. Can’t wait to see the turnaround in Dan’s program this upcoming season. Should be epic considering what he did last year. Year two is typically when programs take off under new leadership...

Think he’ll match what Kirby did in year two? I would think so considering how incompetent Kirby is.

 

[Jaxbchdawg]

You're wasting your time with people who couldn't spell cat if you spotted them the C and the T. They're incapable of adding context to any discussion.

Since 2007, only 3 teams not named Alabama have won the West. An LSU team that had upwards of 30 future NFL picks on it with guys like Odell Beckham, Auburn with Heisman Trophy winning Cam who might be the best college football QB of all-time, and Auburn in 2017. Every other year it's been Bama while in the middle of the best run college football has ever seen. UGA with the best of everything according to the idiots here can't beat Saban, but Mullen was supposed to at MSU because umm, well, that's what all good coaches do. Which makes you wonder why they consider Kang Kirby to be good when he can't beat Saban either. Dumbasses.

Boom! That’s how it’s done...

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

We are the juggernaut. Not one east team has come close to beating us in two years...

So the answer to the question is none. Got it.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I haven’t been here for 6 months. Can’t wait to see the turnaround in Dan’s program this upcoming season. Should be epic considering what he did last year. Year two is typically when programs take off under new leadership...

Think he’ll match what Kirby did in year two? I would think so considering how incompetent Kirby is.

Think Kirby will get it back on track in 2019, or will he continue to regress as he did in 2018?

 

[Jaxbchdawg]

What coach ever won anything at Mississippi State? Huge difference from the West with Saban, Miles, a year with Cam vs a Division that had Butch Jones, Jim McElwain, Jeremy Pruitt, a fvcking conference QB's that Luke Del Rio and Treon Harris won.

Honestly could Kirby have won the West at Mississippi State during the timeframe Mullen was there?

Jackie Sherrill had a pretty good run if I’m not mistaken.

Hard to say, but I know he would have recruited better players to Starkville. That alone would have increased his chances.

 

[Jaxbchdawg]

Think Kirby will get it back on track in 2019, or will he continue to regress as he did in 2018?

Yes, I think we win it all this year or next

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Yes, I think we win it all this year or next

Wow, will be interesting to see who your next coach is then. *thumbs up*

 

[oozie7]

Jackie Sherrill had a pretty good run if I’m not mistaken.

Hard to say, but I know he would have recruited better players to Starkville. That alone would have increased his chances.

Yes you are mistaken, shocker. Sherrill’s best season he lost 4 games and won the division, he was later put on probation for cheating. So the best he could do is lose 4 games while cheating. Mullen has more bowl wins in 9 years at MSU than they had in the prior 100+ years in their program. So give us one well thought out reason why they should have been better.

 

[oozie7]

I haven’t been here for 6 months. Can’t wait to see the turnaround in Dan’s program this upcoming season. Should be epic considering what he did last year. Year two is typically when programs take off under new leadership...

Think he’ll match what Kirby did in year two? I would think so considering how incompetent Kirby is.

And this simple argument getting rehashed for the millionth time. This is why you get called a clown repeatedly. You’re incapable of adding context to anything.

 

[TennesseeGator]

So the answer to the question is none. Got it.

Richt led UGA was the juggernaut of the East during that tenure but Kirby is the juggernaut of the current East. The East then had Florida shortly removed from it's best head coach ever, a national championship winning coach in Phil Fulmer, and a HOF coach in Lou Holtz. Smart came into a division with Will Muschamp, Jim McElwain, and Butch Jones(add in a fairly inexperienced HC Odom) and UT and UF were also coming off two bad hires each, not National Championship coaches.

I don't know if Smart will be the next Richt or the next Saban but to say Smart came into something harder than Richt is asinine.

 

[Jaxbchdawg]

Richt led UGA was the juggernaut of the East during that tenure but Kirby is the juggernaut of the current East. The East then had Florida shortly removed from it's best head coach ever, a national championship winning coach in Phil Fulmer, and a HOF coach in Lou Holtz. Smart came into a division with Will Muschamp, Jim McElwain, and Butch Jones(add in a fairly inexperienced HC Odom) and UT and UF were also coming off two bad hires each, not National Championship coaches.

I don't know if Smart will be the next Richt or the next Saban but to say Smart came into something harder than Richt is asinine.

Richt couldn’t even beat Florida, though.

 

[Jaxbchdawg]

Richt led UGA was the juggernaut of the East during that tenure but Kirby is the juggernaut of the current East. The East then had Florida shortly removed from it's best head coach ever, a national championship winning coach in Phil Fulmer, and a HOF coach in Lou Holtz. Smart came into a division with Will Muschamp, Jim McElwain, and Butch Jones(add in a fairly inexperienced HC Odom) and UT and UF were also coming off two bad hires each, not National Championship coaches.

I don't know if Smart will be the next Richt or the next Saban but to say Smart came into something harder than Richt is asinine.

Smart took over a soft program. UGA got very soft under richt and needed a huge culture change.

Smart also has to deal with Bama’s monster of a program on the other side of the conference. Clearly, he’s not going to get any credit until he knocks off the goat.

 

[Jaxbchdawg]

And this simple argument getting rehashed for the millionth time. This is why you get called a clown repeatedly. You’re incapable of adding context to anything.

K

 

[Jaxbchdawg]

Yes you are mistaken, shocker. Sherrill’s best season he lost 4 games and won the division, he was later put on probation for cheating. So the best he could do is lose 4 games while cheating. Mullen has more bowl wins in 9 years at MSU than they had in the prior 100+ years in their program. So give us one well thought out reason why they should have been better.

And what was Mullen’s best season at MSU?

 

[TennesseeGator]

Jackie Sherrill had a pretty good run if I’m not mistaken.

Hard to say, but I know he would have recruited better players to Starkville. That alone would have increased his chances.

Jackie Sherrill had 6 losing seasons in 13 seasons. Sherrill finished with a 75-75-2 overall record. Majority of this was when Debose was coaching Bama, Curley and DiNardo we're at LSU, and Ole Miss was probation riddled.

How do you know what Kirby could have recruited at Mississippi State? A program with some of the lesser facilities when we are in a time when SEC(and other) programs have top notch state of the art facilities. How do you know how Smart could have recruited?

 

[oozie7]

And what was Mullen’s best season at MSU?

That has nothing to do with anything. You claimed Sherrill had a 'pretty good run' when the best he ever did was lose 4 games while cheating. He also had a losing record almost 50% of the seasons he coached. So you were wrong. The end. Mullen's win % is higher and he won more bowl games in 9 short years than they had ever won in their entire history prior to that. All you're doing without even knowing so is highlighting further how good of a job Mullen did there. They've never won anything, even while cheating. But you're simple so you wouldn't understand this.

 

[oozie7]

And while numbnuts keeps bragging about sweeping the East, he conveniently forgets that in 2017 the East was rated as the second worst Power 5 division. That year two coaches in the East were fired. The record of East teams outside of UGA:

SC: 9-4 (5-3)
UK: 7-6 (4-4)
Mizzou: 7-6 (4-4)
UF: 4-7 (3-5)
Vandy: 5-7 (1-7)
UT: 4-8 (0-8)

So he'll brag about Kirby dominating this shitty division while simultaneously downplaying what Richt did because "the SEC wasn't strong bro!" all because Richt beat a 4-loss Arkansas team in the title game. But wait...Kirby beat a 3-loss Auburn team to win his SEC Title. But I guess that's so different. Thats why he's Simple Jax.

Need your response to this Simple @Jaxbchdawg. Why does Richt get knocked for winning when the SEC apparently wasn't good, but you're bragging constantly about sweeping a shitty East? Let's hear it.

 

[TennesseeGator]

And what was Mullen’s best season at MSU?

10-3. 10-2 regular season. A BCS Bowl.

Mullen's worst season at MSU was his year one. 5-7. Sherrill's worst was 2-10 added in with (4) 3 win seasons.

 

[Jaxbchdawg]

Jackie Sherrill had 6 losing seasons in 13 seasons. Sherrill finished with a 75-75-2 overall record. Majority of this was when Debose was coaching Bama, Curley and DiNardo we're at LSU, and Ole Miss was probation riddled.

How do you know what Kirby could have recruited at Mississippi State? A program with some of the lesser facilities when we are in a time when SEC(and other) programs have top notch state of the art facilities. How do you know how Smart could have recruited?

Because he’s one of the best recruiting coach in the country. Seriously? Do you think urban Meyer would have recruited better players to Mississippi State? Some coaches have the “it factor” when it comes to recruiting. Mullen doesn’t. And that doesn’t make him a bad coach, I just don’t think he’s an elite recruiter.

 

[oozie7]

Because he’s one of the best recruiting coach in the country. Seriously? Do you think urban Meyer would have recruited better players to Mississippi State? Some coaches have the “it factor” when it comes to recruiting. Mullen doesn’t. And that doesn’t make him a bad coach, I just don’t think he’s an elite recruiter.

Great. So why couldn't Saban pull elite classes at Michigan St.? Same with Meyer at Utah? They just didn't have the it factor there I guess? They just suddenly got the it factor when they got to schools players actually want to go to. What an interesting concept.

Jeremy Pruitt is one of the best recruiters in the country...can't get elite guys to go to UT though. Kiffin? One of the best recruiters in the country, can't get elite guys to go to FAU. Muschamp? Can recruit his ass off, can't get to guys to go to South Carolina. And on and on. I wonder why.

 

[Jaxbchdawg]

Need your response to this Simple @Jaxbchdawg. Why does Richt get knocked for winning when the SEC apparently wasn't good, but you're bragging constantly about sweeping a shitty East? Let's hear it.

It’s not just sweeping the east, it’s dominating the east. I don’t think we’ve had one close game in the east during the last two seasons. Richt never dominated anyone consistently with the exception of Georgia tech, always played down to the competition, and couldn’t even beat a Florida team coached by Ron Zook.