Dude, the media coverage has been bad since tye 80s. Its TERRIBLE and completely slanted. Obama got tons of bad rep when he deserved credit and vice versa.
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Dude, the media coverage has been bad since tye 80s. Its TERRIBLE and completely slanted. Obama got tons of bad rep when he deserved credit and vice versa.
I'll take the first questions at least - When I started watching politics in about 1988. Btw they aren't talking points as much as they are stats that consistently show the same thing.
I remember the Dukakis-Bush Sr. debate and Bush was clearly the winner that night. Better sighting of stats, better narrative, Dukakis was terrible. I was shocked to see all the talking heads at the time saying how it was a clear Dukakis win. When the actual polls of what the american people thought came out like week later, I was proven correct. That was the first time I thought that it was weird how the professionals the night of the debate were out of step with the average person.
But it's like that in many sectors of the society. If you poll elementary ed teachers they lien left pretty hard...business people to the right, military to the right, musicians on the left etc. The DC press core is the worst but even local press tend to be on that side.
On the Trump point I do concur even though in full disclosure I voted for him, holding my nose lol. He's a politician though and although I'd hope for better quality - you get what you get sometimes. The press though is doing real damage to the country through its bias imo.
Dr. Birx even told the press they need to start reporting accurate statistics, that consistently forecasting the worst case scenario was unhelpful when the "facts on the ground" no longer supported the original statistical models. Now the press is running with "she's a trump shill!"
Two things can be true at the same time - you can not like the president's communication and also acknowledge the press' bias. Those aren't mutually exclusive.
I voted for trump while holding my nose and i will do it again this yr against Biden.
Democrats are literally running a guy who's heading for a nursing home next week LOL
So you stopped thinking the news was unbiased because of an OPINION? Editorials are not unbiased. The news is not editorials. I thought you might have forgotten this but now it seems you never really understood it. America needs to go back to teaching Civics. People need to understand how these things work.
Journalists, being people, have opinions on things. When they are reporting the news, they leave their opinions out of it. When they are giving their opinion, it is not news. It is an editorial. It's ok for them to do that.
In the newspaper days, it was normal for a variety of opinions to be printed on the editorial page. Since that was for most people the only source, it was important to provide a variety. Now, with so many options, media outlets are free to specialize. The problem here began with Fox News, which blurred the line between editorials and news, causing people to think the opinions given were news. Unfortunately, it proved popular and so more outlets have taken the same tack. It's a little amusing to watch conservatives get all shrill with the "liberal media" doing the same thing the "conservative media" does but gets a pass when they do it. And it's affecting newspapers as well. I live in a town with a lot of poorly educated, well, bumpkins, and they were all up in arms because the local paper dared to print a liberal opinion in the editorials section. Calls to boycott the paper, letters to the editor denouncing them, it was hilariously sad. The local area Facebook group was just going wild. I finally had to go on there and explain to them how it all works. Suffice to say they didn't get it.
Also, you must forgive the elementary ed teachers, they have to deal with all the issues that poverty and drug addiction in families puts on the little children, and so they are pretty strident about increasing social services to help these children and families. I think you will find social workers fall into this same category. Just like the Scrooge McDucks of the world, after a long day of diving into their huge bank vault full of gold want to lower taxes so they have more piles of gold to swim in. It's all about perspective.
Well, everybody here knows that American Indians are pussies...especially the Seminole tribe...
CONS are supporting a guy whose numerous friends occupy jail cells, so their is effin that..
Of course you will. I mean, what isn't appealing about a scumbag, lyin', fraudulent, racist, incompetent, impeached, narcissist. He's All yours, punkass...
I dont lol i have no clue. So im not sure if that was a bad decision or a good one.
Trump is a wild man...so it's going to be Trump vs the hair sniffing pervert lmfao
How bad does it have to get before all of USA is ordered to stay at home? Because the numbers are climbing at an alarming rate.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
To be fair, you asked " When did I realize the media lost..." - I was giving you my first memory of that. The point of that was two fold...my opinion on the news outlets didn't start with Trump as you had guessed and also - it's a long held view of the news, specifically the DC media which is unique beast. I too agree there's a difference in an opinion piece and actual news so I'm not sure why you are stating the obvious. I wrote on and on that I give actual news journalists a pass while pointing out the Hannity types aren't actually news.
I also pointed out that most sections of society have differing liens in viewing issues...elementary ed, business, muscians etc. all tend to lien a certain way - so I'm glad you are on board lol.
I've felt for a long time it'd be helpful for a group like Fox news to actually split itself into differing corporations, 1 just for the true journalists like the Chris Wallace side and another company for the Hannity types.
That said, although we might agree that Fox news "started" this with cable tv there's plenty of examples of it always being there. Sam Donaldson who is unabashedly liberal and says as much asked when he became a liberal. He stated "his whole life" - so when he was a "straight news guy" the previous 50 years why didn't he just say so and admit that his liberal bias clouded everything he reported on? It's there for everyone to see.
The bias it twofold - first it's actual bias in reporting a story. It's the lens you see the story through and how you report the "facts". Then there's also bias in which stories you report. If you are a liberal from NY and you report on gun control, chances are you have a real different view than if you grew up a country boy in the south.
It's okay to admit all this and also not like the Orange Man btw lol.
And this is different how? Biden is a joke.
Trump is probably the worst candidate in history and dems screwed that up by running an even worst candidate in 16...but now Mighty Joe it is! You can't make this up.
He's your president buddy - make sure you cash that Trump check when it gets there! lmao
You spoke way to much truth in this post for him to see it. Orange man bad, media no bias. Hes just doing as hes told, sheeps gunna sheep
I honestly didnt think the Libs could do worse than Hilary..... Boy was i wrong.
We give tests at an alarming rate so it makes sense and we also have a bunch of morons.... So having the virus grow in numbers is not a surprise.
Correct - if you tested 0 tomorrow that would mean statistically, we had 0 new cases. Of course that's not reality. The point is we have more cases because we are 5-10x larger than most of the other countries that have good reporting and are testing more in real numbers.
One good thing is that our death rate as a % is lower than most other countries. Part of that is because we are getting hit last so we're just lucky.
Well, we know the dude who once called this a hoax won’t do it...also Cuomo and DeSantis have indicated they are against it...so probably won’t happen...
Not sure about that - they've been flirting with enforcing the stay at home orders in NY, NJ and CT the last couple of days.
Cuomo talked Trump out of it by calling it a Federal Declaration of War...
whatever side you are on....we can all agree, this sucks...
They have their hair sniffing candidate that has dementia...the last candidate couldn't stand up fast and passed out a lot.
This whole thing is insane...hopefully they come out with a cure soon so we can all get back to normal. Heard Sea World fired 90% of their employees...that's a lot of families that are hurting.
The death rate in Italy is a national tragedy and national scandal for them.... just terrible.
Yeah - this is why we're doing what we are now doing. If the system gets overwhelmed it's literally darwinism at work.
That's probably about right. To me it's the locals/state that can do the best job of enforcing this type of curfew/stay at home. The feds getting in at that level would be pretty inefficient I'd think.
Feds do really well at logistics, closing borders etc. which is their mandate. The states/locals are much better at that level. I know some people feel better when the feds are "in charge" and I get that but to me, it's simply who has the best chance at being efficient at the task at hand.
I think some things should transcend politics... Sports and world wide crisis should be at the top of that list. I personally dont care if Hilary comes up with a good idea and we take it.
The crazy no work just stay at home lockdowns seem to be making the peak come sooner rather than later so far judging on the different approaches here in US states and over there in western Europe with Sweden so far.
I think an after the fact review will show in countries where you cant go crazy early like Korea did taking people away from their families and the stuff has already gotten a foothold that these things don't really flatten a curve anymore than the standard stuff like banning big gatherings and closing schools and distancing some etc.
Not to mention that the poor Shamus have been reduced to eating canned sardines...
If schools were open half of the US would be infected.... Those disgusting animals breathe and cough on each other all day.
This country began elections by voting for the best candidate.
That evolved (pooly) into voting for the lesser of the two evils.
And now it's devolved all the way down to voting for the 'EVIL of two Lessors.'
'None of the Above' needs to be added to ballots...
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The public (mostly church based) schools used to teach the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Now the 'un-Constitutional government schools' teach neither and have become the propaganda arm of the liberals.
The last thing that the government wants is well educated voters at the polls.
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The Constitutional protections are being abridged by the over-stepping of the Federal government, and now some state governments are joining in. At some point, a RECKONING by the people will need to be implemented, and that could get truly ugly...
That evolved (pooly) into voting for the lesser of the two evils.
And now it's devolved all the way down to voting for the 'EVIL of two Lessors.'
'None of the Above' needs to be added to ballots...
=====
The public (mostly church based) schools used to teach the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Now the 'un-Constitutional government schools' teach neither and have become the propaganda arm of the liberals.
The last thing that the government wants is well educated voters at the polls.
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The Constitutional protections are being abridged by the over-stepping of the Federal government, and now some state governments are joining in. At some point, a RECKONING by the people will need to be implemented, and that could get truly ugly...
Hard to say but that is one of the things that helps early I would think. My main issue is with these draconian no-work stay at home type lockdowns. Just glad FL's governor didn't fully fall for the hysteria like all those states up north and a few down south like LA..
The Florida Governor is restricting entry to the state.
I'm good with that temporary measure.
But he has also closed ALL of the Florida State Parks, which I'm not happy about.
I'm in the high risk group, so I practice reasonable 'social distancing' but I refuse to stay at home. I continue with my life, much as before except for the now closed off areas.
My 'drive-thru' activity has necessarily increased for now....
I'm good with that temporary measure.
But he has also closed ALL of the Florida State Parks, which I'm not happy about.
I'm in the high risk group, so I practice reasonable 'social distancing' but I refuse to stay at home. I continue with my life, much as before except for the now closed off areas.
My 'drive-thru' activity has necessarily increased for now....
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