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The media-morons always need something to write about, and the bigger the headline is, the better they like it.

The Gators finally have another 1,000 Yard Rusher.
The Gators finally have another 1,000 Yard Receiver.

They want to ride on the coat-tails of one player, make him their STAR.
DON'T FALL FOR IT!
The media-morons don't G-a-S about your TEAM.

As to a team, having a thousand yard rusher or receiver, that's their bag...
However, it's never helped a team win, to have either of those things alone.

What is best for a TEAM is having group success at both RB and Receiver.
Having a committee has built-in TEAM advantages that you don't get with 1 star.
The biggest advantage imo comes in INJURY PROTECTION.
The 2nd advantage comes in year to year RECRUITING, (everybody plays).
Another big advantage is in keeping all of the skill players 'involved and engaged' in what your offense is trying to accomplish from game to game.

What is successful over the long term is having a TEAM that's a FAMILY.
Not in having a STAR or two that are GLORY HOUNDS that are just out for themselves, like the media-morons that are trying to promote them.... jmoho's and opinions will always vary :cool:

Looking at the Gator's 2017 roster, at the skill positions quality & depth, they need to be a TEAM.
 
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I don't care of we do or don't. I just want UF to win.

If it takes one RB shouldering the load to win. Cool

If we use 3 RBs to win the SEC... Excellent

I don't care how it's done. Just win and win ethically.
 
The media-morons always need something to write about, and the bigger the headline is, the better they like it.

The Gators finally have another 1,000 Yard Rusher.
The Gators finally have another 1,000 Yard Receiver.

They want to ride on the coat-tails of one player, make him their STAR.
DON'T FALL FOR IT!
The media-morons don't G-a-S about your TEAM.

As to a team, having a thousand yard rusher or receiver, that's their bag...
However, it's never helped a team win, to have either of those things alone.

What is best for a TEAM is having group success at both RB and Receiver.
Having a committee has built-in TEAM advantages that you don't get with 1 star.
The biggest advantage imo comes in INJURY PROTECTION.
The 2nd advantage comes in year to year RECRUITING, (everybody plays).
Another big advantage is in keeping all of the skill players 'involved and engaged' in what your offense is trying to accomplish from game to game.

What is successful over the long term is having a TEAM that's a FAMILY.
Not in having a STAR or two that are GLORY HOUNDS that are just out for themselves, like the media-morons that are trying to promote them.... jmoho's and opinions will always vary :cool:

Looking at the Gator's 2017 roster, at the skill positions quality & depth, they need to be a TEAM.

It will be a lot of Scarlett with some Perine. Sorry to burst your bubble.
 
I think we're going to have a pretty good line if they can stay healthy.

Scarlett could get a thousand yards if we have a passing game that can open it up a little.
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This should be the year if any, we have a breakthrough for the OL.

With experience at WR... Descent quality at WR...They should help any QB have a pretty good year in the passing game.
 
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This should be the year if any, we have a breakthrough for the OL.

With experience at WR... Descent quality at WR...They should help any QB have a pretty good year in the passing game.

Ivey at LT is huge. Finally got a tackle out there with some feet and not a 360 lb. guard out there pretending to be a tackle and attempting to block speed rushers. With Ivey and Taylor at the book ends we should be much better in pass protection assuming the playcalling also helps out. Still worried about the guards though.
 
We do need a RB to take the job. Scarlett needs to learn to block so he can be in there most downs if he is our best runner right now. You would swear he was blind watching him back there on passing plays trying to block. Hopefully he is taught to block finally this Spring.
 
We do need a RB to take the job. Scarlett needs to learn to block so he can be in there most downs if he is our best runner right now. You would swear he was blind watching him back there on passing plays trying to block. Hopefully he is taught to block finally this Spring.

Exactly, on the whiff excuse for blocking by Scarlett. I think I even heard him yell O'lay, a few times on pass plays... :rolleyes:

And the same goes for TE's Goolsby & Lewis, both at the line and down field. o_O -- Lazy blocking resulted in holding calls on a few critical plays too... :oops:

It's not that those 3 'can't' block, it's more that you can't 'depend' on them to make their blocks on any given play, and especially on critical 3rd downs. :cool:

As to 'needing' a single runner to get 80+ % of the rushing load, I invite anyone to go look up the highest team rushing total yards in the past 10 years and see what you get. Seems like I remember a really nice year when the Gators had 4-5 players with 500+ rushing yards, and 2-3 more with 200+ yards.
 
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Exactly, on the whiff excuse for blocking by Scarlett. I think I even heard him yell O'lay, a few times on pass plays... :rolleyes:

And the same goes for TE's Goolsby & Lewis, both at the line and down field. o_O -- Lazy blocking resulted in holding calls on a few critical plays too... :oops:

It's not that those 3 'can't' block, it's more that you can't 'depend' on them to make their blocks on any given play, and especially on critical 3rd downs. :cool:

As to 'needing' a single runner to get 80+ % of the rushing load, I invite anyone to go look up the highest team rushing total yards in the past 10 years and see what you get. Seems like I remember a really nice year when the Gators had 4-5 players with 500+ rushing yards, and 2-3 more with 200+ yards.

Yep TEs were pretty poor blockers also. Not sure what was going on with Scarlett on some plays as he would just stand there sometimes when he could have easily stepped over and put a block on a rusher that was heading straight to the QB. It was almost like he just froze up or something.
 
To be a good blocker, you've got to WANT to throw the block. He seemed to lack the kind of 'want to' that is necessary to get the job done. And if a RB looks dazed, then maybe he was, from taking too many hits while running the ball over and over. Yet another good reason to use a 'fresh' committee at RB...

As to TE's, I'm still hoping that they will finally utilize Moral Stephens a lot more.
I've yet to figure out what's holding him back so far? Anyone know the inside scoop on that? That kid was a 1,200+ yard WR his Sr year in HS.
 
Scarlett ended up with 900 rushing yards last season.

That was with a bad OL and being in a RB by committe for half the season.

He is now the clear #1 back.

If he doesn't get 1200 yards this season we're screwed

The passing game will be focused on 5 receiving targets primarily. Callaway, Cleveland, Powell, Massey, and Goolsby.

Gonna be hard to get a 1,000 yard receiver.

You don't need a 1,000 receiver though to sell the fact you have a good Passing attack.

You do need a QB who throws for 3,000 yards and has at least a 2-1 TD/INT ratio.
 
appleby got granted a 12th year to come back and start against michigan to throw some dirt balls
 
Scarlett ended up with 900 rushing yards last season.
That was with a bad OL and being in a RB by committe for half the season.
He is now the clear #1 back.
If he doesn't get 1200 yards this season we're screwed.

Not so fast my friend....
o_O

Scarlett 5.0 ypc - wiff blocker and 2 season receptions for 7 yds/rec, (1+13)
200 carries would yield 1,000 yards at that ypc rate.

Perine 4.6 ypc - Solid blocker and receiver.
200 carries would yield 920 yards, plus solid receiving yards (9-161, 1 TD).
He had a 17.9 average yds/rec average, which ranked 2nd on the team
920 + 161 = 1,081 yds, plus protecting the QB on pass plays and being a solid outlet pass receiver whenever needed.

Thompson 4.4 ypc - Solid blocker and receiver.
200 carries would yield 880 yards, plus solid receiving yards.
He had an 85 yard swing pass reception for a TD in the Outback Bowl.

Makik Davis 5-11 190 - Solid citizen and solid academics.
  • 2,469 yds, 11.5 ypc, and 33 TD's his senior season in Florida 5A.
  • 7,025 HS rushing yds, 8.5 ypc, with 83 TD's over his 4 year HS career.
  • He 'shattered' Clemson's RB Ray-Ray McCloud's HS rushing records.

Adarius Lemons 6-1 195 - He began his Sr year as the #1 RB in FL, but then took an ugly dump on himself. Questionable citizen with weak academics, and a possible non-qualifier or red-shirt.
HS career - 2,307 yds on 320 carries, 7.2 ypc with 27 TD's.
IMO, he is a 'project' both on the field and in the classroom, plus he's a roll of the dice elsewhere....
IF he makes it in, then he has a chance, but he's a long-shot for now imoho.
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Given the lack of blocking and receptions for Scarlett, I'd stay with a committee system in 2017. The coaches will do whatever they think is best for the team I assume, so we'll see where it goes from here. :cool:
 
I hope some random person googles dunny goater.

The top results would lead them to this site and then they too could be blessed like we all are.
 
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This season is going to be funny if Trask doesn't start and there's a featured back.

You know thats exactly what's gonna happen. By the end of last year Scarlett was getting most of the carries with Perine giving him a breather. And Franks is still getting most of the 1's now. So the coaches will go back to being 'clueless and FOS' here shortly. Remember that time last year Insta went on a rant and said Trask should transfer and insinuated the coaches were playing favorites at QB based almost solely on Nuss' quote that Trask was as good as any 5-star he had seen? Good times.
 
You know thats exactly what's gonna happen. By the end of last year Scarlett was getting most of the carries with Perine giving him a breather. And Franks is still getting most of the 1's now. So the coaches will go back to being 'clueless and FOS' here shortly. Remember that time last year Insta went on a rant and said Trask should transfer and insinuated the coaches were playing favorites at QB based almost solely on Nuss' quote that Trask was as good as any 5-star he had seen? Good times.

He trusts the coaches implicitly unless they go against his wishes.

I honestly don't understand the RB by Committee trope. Aside from the nonsense that extrapolates ypca into amazing numbers, why would you be bent out of shape about having a feature back and great young guy behind him? Why do we need to have 4 guys getting carries all the time?


That's pretty ghetto (which is a term I assume Insta doesn't understand outside of what he can copy and paste from an online dictionary source).
 
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He trusts the coaches implicitly unless they go against his wishes.

I honestly don't understand the RB by Committee trope. Aside from the nonsense that extrapolates ypca into amazing numbers, why would you be bent out of shape about having a feature back and great young guy behind him? Why do we need to have 4 guys getting carries all the time?

But somehow he's superfan even though he calls the coaches out all the time when they dare do something different from what he wants. And the whole committee thing...it's because he only knows how to mindlessly post numbers without context. Never mind that we actually ran better once we cut down on the rotation. Or that some of the backs, cough cough Thompson, didn't get carries against the better teams which helped their YPC average stay high. Context isn't important in his galaxy.
 
Not so fast my friend.... o_O

Scarlett 5.0 ypc - wiff blocker and 2 season receptions for 7 yds/rec, (1+13)
200 carries would yield 1,000 yards at that ypc rate.

Perine 4.6 ypc - Solid blocker and receiver.
200 carries would yield 920 yards, plus solid receiving yards (9-161, 1 TD).
He had a 17.9 average yds/rec average, which ranked 2nd on the team
920 + 161 = 1,081 yds, plus protecting the QB on pass plays and being a solid outlet pass receiver whenever needed.

Thompson 4.4 ypc - Solid blocker and receiver.
200 carries would yield 880 yards, plus solid receiving yards.
He had an 85 yard swing pass reception for a TD in the Outback Bowl.

Makik Davis 5-11 190 - Solid citizen and solid academics.
  • 2,469 yds, 11.5 ypc, and 33 TD's his senior season in Florida 5A.
  • 7,025 HS rushing yds, 8.5 ypc, with 83 TD's over his 4 year HS career.
  • He 'shattered' Clemson's RB Ray-Ray McCloud's HS rushing records.

Adarius Lemons 6-1 195 - He began his Sr year as the #1 RB in FL, but then took an ugly dump on himself. Questionable citizen with weak academics, and a possible non-qualifier or red-shirt.
HS career - 2,307 yds on 320 carries, 7.2 ypc with 27 TD's.
IMO, he is a 'project' both on the field and in the classroom, plus he's a roll of the dice elsewhere....
IF he makes it in, then he has a chance, but he's a long-shot for now imoho.
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Given the lack of blocking and receptions for Scarlett, I'd stay with a committee system in 2017. The coaches will do whatever they think is best for the team I assume, so we'll see where it goes from here. :cool:

Alright stat man. Let's play your game.

Meaningful games

Tennessee, UGA, LSU, and FSU

Yards per carry

Tennessee

Scarlett 4.4
Perine 2.5
Thompson 2.5


UGA

Scarlett 3.6
Perine 2.2
Thompson suspended for Pot

LSU

Scarlett 4.9
Perine 5.4
Thompson had no carries

FSU

Scarlett 3.8
Perine 3.0
Thompson had no carries

There is a clear pattern here

Plus we all know Scarlett has the best ball security

Thompson will fumble the ball on a dry day being tackled by a 175 lbs CB

Also completely disagree with you about Scarlett's blocking ability.

He is the best on the team. Watch the damn film.

I will agree he needs to work on his hands.

RB screen game needs to become a bigger part of the offense for sure
 
I think my favorite part was himcall Malik a great citizen.

He hasn't even had a chance to be that guy.

We need to make sure to save that so that, just in case he gets suspended for weed, we have it available when Insta starts saying he's a horrible human being that should be kicked out of school and tossed in jail.
 
I think my favorite part was himcall Malik a great citizen.

He hasn't even had a chance to be that guy.

We need to make sure to save that so that, just in case he gets suspended for weed, we have it available when Insta starts saying he's a horrible human being that should be kicked out of school and tossed in jail.

"great citizen"

I think my life would be complete if Eagle Scout Kyle Trask was to ever get popped for weed. The world may end :eek::D:p
 
I think my favorite part was himcall Malik a great citizen.

He hasn't even had a chance to be that guy.

We need to make sure to save that so that, just in case he gets suspended for weed, we have it available when Insta starts saying he's a horrible human being that should be kicked out of school and tossed in jail.


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Remember that time last year Insta went on a rant and said Trask should transfer and insinuated the coaches were playing favorites at QB based almost solely on Nuss' quote that Trask was as good as any 5-star he had seen? Good times.

And you closely watched the Spring game too I take it... :rolleyes:

While the coaches gave the job to LDR, strictly on his fantastic abilities as a drop-back passing, pro style QB with 8 TD's to 8 Ints.... :rolleyes:

Trask never threw a single Int in his HS career.
Trask doesn't have any HS film on Hudi.
Trask didn't throw a single Int in the O & B game.
And IF Trask can't win the starting job for 2017,
And IF Trask ever wants to start as a college QB,
Then Trask should transfer elsewhere, just like so many other Gator QB's have done over the many years that I've been watching Gator football.

So please, continue with your own idiot rants so that I can laugh myself to sleep yet again... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
I'm still waiting for you phootball genius types to put your 2017 starting QB and depth chart out? I've already put out my own uninformed biased wishes:

Trask + Toney package - Franks - Allen - LDR.
That's my pre-spring game depth chart, so it could change drastically going into the summer.

So let's see your bias, or are you chicken-chits only good at stalking and dissing on the opinions of others? o_O

PS -- The fact that this pack of idiot dweebs need to gang up on me, proves to me just how effective my posts and opinions really are, and how clueless they are about that very fact. -- There's never any FLAK unless you're on the target... :cool:
 
So after months and months of telling people they don't know shit and they should trust the coaches, you decide they're playing favorites based entirely on a spring game? Even though you didn't see a single practice before or after? And that seems logical to you? What happened to trusting the coaches? I guess that doesn't apply when it comes to you all knowing one. Your alien buddies probably already told you the future and in it Trask won the Heisman I'm guessing.

And earth to Insta, the reason no one has put a 'depth chart' out there is because there is literally nothing to base a depth chart on except bias at this point in time. You'd think someone with your superior intellect would grasp that. And how cute, first people were stalking you on a public message board. Ow you're being ganged up on, your persecution complex is hilarious. Cry some more please.
 
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So, is there anything to base your DT diatribes on? (crickets)
If there really is no basis for a depth chart, then you can't say anything about my biased depth chart unless you're just talking outta your butts, like always... (moron)

Board gang-banger bullies, but individually, just chicken-chits as I suspected.
This is why so few of those that read here ever bother to post anything, but I've got Alligator hide so you idiot little boys can't run me off with your sniveling crap, unless of course you can all whine to a board mod to get it done for ya... :p

Now, back to your constant lies and exaggerations. This entertainment never ends for me. :cool:
 
You've already let it be known your depth chart was biased you idiot. So that's why others can also call it biased. I'm convinced you have a 50 IQ, if that. No answer for why everybody else is clueless and should trust the coaches except for you who has the knowledge to question decisions when you feel like? I guess because you've been on earth for hundreds of years you have perspective nobody else has. Zzzzzzzzzzzz.
 
couldn't find any trask film on hudi

HS QB Kyle Trask 6-5 235 -- NCSA Profile and Film -- (current UF bio 6-4 238)

Run up the field - 40 - 4.81 -- (about a tenth of a second faster now at 4.68 40)

Moving around in the pocket - 5-10-5 Shuttle 4.3

Bench 265 - Squat 365 - Vertical 28.5"

Go watch his Hudi film -- Drop back Footwork, Moving in the Pocket, Arm Strength, Accuracy, Decisions - Running, and many other QB'ing details, like how he holds the ball in the pocket before throwing it.

http://www.ncsasports.org/football-recruiting/texas/alvin/manvel-high-school/kyle-trask
 
Some other info for the mostly clueless mouth runners... o_O

SEC Country - Article


Zach - Q: What was the funniest story that happened on one of your recruiting trips.

Jake Allen - A: “I was at Michigan camp and talking with a couple other quarterbacks. We were all talking about our grades. I was messing around and said, ‘I got a C in third grade.’ Jim Harbaugh overheard and screams, ‘I don’t give a s**t about your grades.’ Then he realized I was part of the quarterback group that had recruits in it so he just kind of walked away. It was weird. I couldn't wait to get out of there after that, and we left early.”
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Note: Zaire couldn't make it at ND so he wants to come to UF, while ND was recruiting Jake Allen who had early committed to UF after his Soph. season in HS and has stuck to his very early commitment and will be enrolling on May 8th.

~ We've got Allen, that ND badly wanted, so we obviously don't need Zaire who they dumped.

Intersting Q & A with Allen at: https://www.seccountry.com/florida/qb-jake-allen-reveals-kept-signing-florida
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New Gator's CB/FS Brian Edwards 6-3 195 cleared 6'-8" in the High Jump over the weekend in Orlando.

He's recently just missed at 6'-10" and he has 7'-4" set as his eventual goal. :eek:
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Regardless of who wins the QB race, both of them would be taking their first career snap against Michigan on Sept. 3. However, OC/QB's Doug Nussmeier doesn’t believe their inexperience and youth will hold back his unit.

“No,” he said bluntly Tuesday. “Why should it? Last time I check, greatness wasn’t defined by age or experience.” Nussmeier is confident that both players can get the job done.

Mc on new Ath/QB Toney: “I think there’s going to be some things we’re going to be able to do with him in some packages, a lot like we were doing with Dre (Massey) a little bit, only more so that he really has been (at) quarterback,” McElwain said. “He (Toney) pulled one down and took one very quickly to the end zone from a ways away and caught the eyes of not only us as coaches but the team.”

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/...ors-can-win-with-feleipe-franks-or-kyle-trask
 
i posted that because you keep saying hudi
Blind or Typo on my part, take your pick. But since you apparently knew the difference, why bother unless you've just joining ranks with the other a-holes... :confused:
I guess their circle could always use another pivot point for their rotation.. :D.
 
Blind or Typo on my part, take your pick. But since you apparently knew the difference, why bother unless you've just joining ranks with the other a-holes... :confused:
I guess their circle could always use another pivot point for their rotation.. :D.

Do you have dimentia?

He's been a part of the circle for years.

God you're slipping.
 
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