I missed the game but curious to see how this one gets spun.

Billy is building something special! Right?

A new offensive coordinator isn’t fixing the 3 years of historic terrible defense. We are on our 3rd defensive coordinator. Recruiting is currently dead under this staff. Currently in the high 50s Talent evaluation is suspect as we watch multiple plays excel at other schools. Every school has money to spend why would top players come here for 1-2 years.

The head coach is needing a letter of support in year 3. This stuff doesn’t get turned around. Talk about us beating a dead horse. Top boosters don’t throw your money at a dying program.

We are the University of Florida. THE mother Fing SWAMP. This coach has drained the lure of the swamp. He is not the answer and 6-6 next year is not the answer. Injuries happen. We can not bring him back for one player.

SS and the athletic department made a mistake he was not the guy. You don’t throw more money at him to put a bandaid on the issues.

We must move on!!! The fans will not continue to come. Again we are not a joke we are mother Fing University Of Florida.

Texas favored by 21.5 points.

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First off, a significant "thank you" for all that you do financially, emotionally, and other both for the program and this community we have hear.

I was at the game yesterday. We actually did not look that bad outside of Warner - a good, intelligent young man with limited tools and very poor secondary tackling. We have significant issues with injuries as well. We controlled the lines of scrimmage well. Perhaps surprisingly, that was not our issue.

On Napier, I can fully appreciate that none of you want to reach into your personal balance sheet and write, collectively, significant checks ($40M+) to have a new Head Coach and series of assistants. I saw what we all saw and agreed with Nick Saban that our teams have indeed showed strength and "won the first half" of many games against top 10 opponents.

Napier's biggest issue remains as Offensive Coordinator. I called this out over two years after the Kentucky game. Little has changed.


I am partner in a global consulting firm and run our strategy business of one of the global Hyperscalers. I will not share which one.

When we work with executive teams and boards who are underperforming, we work with then to force changes that the individual executives may not want to make. There is likely nothing in your contract with Billy to force him to hire a new OC.

Force him to hire a new one anyways. You can put plenty of pressure on him through many other avenues. Yes, there is an election analog here which I will not explicitly cite.

Pay that person a significant sum with a performance package (based on both W/L, recruiting and offensive output) that aligns his total compensation package with results. Finding a "hot shot" OC is far easier than a new HC. Go hire Lane's OC. You may pay him a 50% bump in base and a 100% jump in total compensation.

That Gator Nation does need to see a change, but can fully appreciate that in today's NIL and monopolistic agent structure, it is not reasonable to ask individuals like yourselves who do not have money coming from their land holdings in the Permian Basin (UT Austin has a ton of oil money, incredible to see) to make these kind of persisted investments.

In the end, you all will do what you think is right and reasonable. Whatever that is, whether it is some form of the above or another path completely, thank you for your commitment to the University and the program.

Go Gators.

Norvell won at a high level with a really great QB and a stellar transfer portal class. After their departure, because HS recruiting was so poor the cupboard was bare. Jordan Travis, covered a lot of coaching warts that are now evident at FSU. Not only coaching warts, but the lack of HS recruiting has sunk them.

My worry is that if Billy hangs all of his success on Lags and HS recruiting doesn't pick up dramatically we could find ourself in a huge hole after this run is over-I heard many people saying we will go all in on the portal next year to win immediately. While I admire the effort, if we don't continue to build the program through stellar HS recruiting where will be be in another 2 years?

Some might say, worry about that later. But looking at what has happened to FSU it has to be something that needs to be top of mind. Let's say Billy has 8 wins next season with lagway and portal and we extend him. We could be exactly where FSU ended up.

Unless HS recruiting gets better we can't survive off the portal. Recruiting took a nose dive this time last year and has not recovered. THIS HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS CONSIDERED when deciding Billy's future. You cannot live and die by the portal. We see where that has gotten teams and and it can be an unrecoverable situation especially if we have to sign an extension NEXT YEAR.

Lagway gets hurt again and doesn’t play against fsu causing a loss to the worst Nole team in history? I think he would have to fire him in that case.

Historically that is?

6-7
5-7
5-7 at best 6-6

Has anyone ever survived and found success? If the answer is NO why would we consider this option?


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must have finally awakened from her drunken stupor

Obviously, he knew we could get blown out by Texas and that Lane was getting Georgia in Oxford.

Imagine how ridiculous Strickland (he does not deserve his name spelled correctly) would have looked if he made the same support statement this coming week, instead of last week?

Also: imagine the Lane Kiffin wild speculation

While we took a beat down yesterday, watching Miami get beat and hearing Booger say how Mario's bad coaching finally caught up to him was glorious. Georgia getting beat and Beck looking worse and worse was fun. FSU getting dismantled by ND was mind boggling to see how bad FSU is. While I hate Bama, what I did not want to see was these teams battle it out and both look great. LSU got man handled at home.

Bottom line, We looked awful yesterday, but not sure what people expected... Texas had a week off after we lost a heart breaker and our star QB last week, not to mention a ton of our players. I wish Billy would have let Warner pass a lot less and just keep running the ball and do more wildcat, but I saw two things.

1. He is not a very good offensive coach with little creativity. I know that is a shocker.

2. He could have tried and grind out the game with our rushing attack and probably slowed the game down and kept the margin of defeat down. However, I guess he decided to just play his offense and HOPE our back ups would pull of a miracle.

This second point is where I have an issue with Billy. I don't think there is anyway we win that game with Warner and 2nd and 3rd string DB's in the game if we play our normal game plan. BUT, there were no wrinkles added to this game to make up for all our injuries. We should have done a bunch of wildcat. Maybe fake a FG or Punt. Do something that is creative, but he does not have that in him. His coaching has to be dragged to victory by talented players and many of them were on the sideline yesterday.

Bottom line is Billy is not a good day coach... SHOCKER.. If we can win 2 of our next 3 games, I will feel much better, but we will need Lagway to do that. IF everything SR says will happen in the offseason then I am not going to freak out right now. I will support this team and cheer them on and pray that my faith is rewarded next year. See ya'll at the game next weekend. Go Gators!

Plenty has been said about the ridiculous gauntlet that they subjected us to down the stretch with UGA, Texas, LSU and Ole Miss in successive weeks to end the season, but I haven't seen much said about the fact that three of those opponents have a bye week ahead of playing us. Obviously, we also had a bye week ahead of UGA as well, but the fact that Texas and Ole Miss also have two weeks to prepare and we do not is criminal.

If I have missed this being brought up already I apologize, but it's just another example of how the SEC has always treated us.

I don’t care about the letter. Pathetic performance. Billy earned it. It’s time to fire them all

… thought this would go differently? That’s the only reason I can find for the outrage. I’m not saying that as an excuse. I’m saying that as someone who recognizes that disappointment and depression are bad for your mental health. This is more or less exactly what I expected. Actually it was a little better than i expected. I thought there was a decent chance we would get shut out.

Again, I’m not saying that’s okay or acceptable, or that there’s an excuse for getting rolled up that badly. I’m saying if you lower your expectations then you won’t waste your energy on anger. It doesn’t help you. Until something changes I’m not sure why you would expect anything else.

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I know this is insignificant in the big picture - but when I watch Bama, Texas and other teams run similar pre-snap motion - it seems to me that that guy in motion is used every so often to at least make the defense honor that guy. They run a few jet sweeps a game so that defense at least thinks they may do it and when the ball is faked it helps open a little crease

It just seems so rare that the motion guy is in play with our offense …admittedly they did hand that ball off more often when Wilson was healthy

Not trying to start another Napier sucks thread - just wondering if I am missing something

Does anybody know if we’ve looked at 4* Rashad Johnson (DB) out of Bushnell , FL ? I know in the past we’ve taken GREATS like Keanu Neal , Earl E , etc. from South Sumpter. He was committed to Georgia then recently flipped to Texas A&M. However , a little birdy told me that UF is his dream school…. 🤔

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Which secures the clean sweep for swing states. Couple of yawl on here called it, good call. God bless America.

Not that that means anything, but I’m sure we’ll hear that talking point.

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I know it’s been danced around a bit, and I might have missed it. But do we know about his skill, his health, his availability? I’ve read that Warner simply beat him out, but I’ve also read that millen is trying to get a second redshirt.

We rotate most every position, and we rotate QBs. Is millen in the rotation? Why/why not? Just seeing if I missed the why. Thanks!

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I NEVER thought this would be the case..aside from obvious reasons of wet ball etc..I have always been told wet field helps the WRs tremendously bc they know where they are going and the DBs do not...never thought it would be that way but that is what I have been told....Ole Miss looking great, they are so physical up front on the DL will be interesting to see them in The Swamp....

But our awesome AD decides to keep our awesome coach. Yay

Given Florida Gator Football has died.