Wait a minute…so neither Obama, nor Hillary Clinton will be arrested as a result of the whole Durham report thingy?
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I thought destroying 33,000 e-mails under congressional subpoena on a private server was a crime. I thought funding a fake Steele dossier on a political opponent was a crime. Silly me.
The US 2 tier justice system remains in place.
The US 2 tier justice system remains in place.
No one involved with this will.
That's how an asymmetrical justice system works. The side weaponizing gov't agencies against political opponents doesn't throw itself in jail. What sense would that make?
The crazy part is that's the only fact that matters to you...
I'll play.
What do these quotes from the report mean then? How many lines are we reading between - this seems really clear?
"Neither U.S. law enforcement nor the Intelligence Community appears to have possessed any actual evidence of collusion in their holdings at the commencement of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation," Durham wrote.
Durham contended that, had the FBI followed its own procedures, the bureau "would have learned that their own experienced Russia analysts had no information about Trump being involved with Russian leadership officials, nor were others in sensitive positions at the CIA, the NSA, and the Department of State aware of such evidence concerning the subject."
They were not really agents...they ARE financed and bought and paid for. So in effect, it is almost the same thing.
WTF is this? IF???? So paying for false information to overthrow an election is not a crime to you? Is treason a crime? Is lying on FISA warrants to spy on an opposing political campaign a crime? It IS in America. What kind of stupid question are you asking?
WTF are you guys smoking...or shooting up? There is NO WAY you read the report making this stupid statement.
I mean, I completely debunked this notion with one quote.
It's ridiculous to even say...
This goes back to something I say on this board EVERY week. Are they REALLY this stupid...or are they trolling. I think they really are this stupid, because I KNOW they ae not smart enough to be this good at trolling.
They forgot to list Obama and his bros spying on a Presidential Candidate, a President, and his staff.
They all know the election was stolen/interfered with. They dont provide evidence and facts because they know they Cant. Not that they wont. Its that they Cant. Theyll just wait for the lib media colluders to hide the story, and theyll start throwing white supremacy into every story. Thats how these Pedo lovers operate. Thats the Dem/Lib way.
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Penalty for a Dem/Lib proven guilty of treason is a promotion and Idol status among the Pedo loving sheep.
Our country is lost. Totally illegitimate legal system.
We are disgusted that Leftists are okay w a dual justice system that uses The Federal Government to persecute & prosecute it’s political opponents.
We wish the very worst happens to Democrats in America. Not only the Dem Party - the Dem people. They are a party of evil.
When you say that all I do is call people names and add nothing to the board, is this the type of post that you're referring to?
Statement: Russia collusion was absolutely a hoax
Response: pvssies
lol, that's solid.
She does a decent job of explaining:
The thread:
“1 Durham Report is in. After four years, review of 1 million documents, 490 interviews, his conclusion is that FBI should have opened a preliminary investigation (PI) instead of a full investigation (FI) in 2016.
2 The only difference between FI and PI is the duration and the authorities that may be used. This is a hairsplitting quibble, and one on which FBI officials routinely disagree.
3 Durham also minimizes the reasons FBI was alarmed enough to open a FI in 2016 based on information received from Australian diplomats about Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos.
4 According to Aussies, Papadopoulos said, “Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia that it could assist this process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to Mrs Clinton.”
5 Papadopoulos’s statement came right after the DNC hack. FBI was properly concerned about Russia’s efforts to influence the presidential
election. This was an investigation into RUSSIA.
6 Trump had other concerning ties to Russians: real estate deals, Miss Universe Pageant, loans from Russian lenders, Trump Tower Moscow project. Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort had lobbied for pro-Russian oligarchs.
7 Trump campaign members also had ties to Russia. Mike Flynn was paid $45,000 by Russia Today in 2015 for a speech he gave at a banquet where he sat next to Putin. He later lied to FBI about his calls with the Russian ambassador about sanctions during the transition.
8 Carter Page had been seen meeting with Russian intel officers. It now appears that he was unaware that they were trying to recruit him. Papadopoulos worked to set up a meeting with Putin.
9 Durham criticizes the FBI for relying on the Steele Dossier for the Carter Page FISA. Steele Dossier was not the basis for opening the investigation, but it makes for a useful scapegoat to blur that fact.
10 We now know FBI was unable to corroborate the Steele Dossier, which contained explosive details about Russian kompromat on Trump. That’s 20/20 hindsight. And, importantly, Durham never says the information in it was false, just unconfirmed.
11 In fact, some aspects of Steele Dossier were confirmed by Mueller and DNI: Putin favored Trump and was working to influence the election in Trump’s favor and against Clinton. It also contained unconfirmed information that could have seriously compromised Trump as president.
12 Failing to investigate these ties would have been a breach of duty by FBI. This was an investigation into RUSSIA. Russia was the threat and the focus. Trump was just Russia’s useful idiot.
13 Page FISA also was based on an e-mail altered by an FBI lawyer. That lawyer was identified by IG, not Durham, and he was properly convicted for making false statements. Mueller disregarded all aspects of Page FISA.
14 In addition to criticizing the FBI for opening a FI instead of a PI, Durham also ignores other facts and helps advance the narrative that the Russia investigation was a hoax.
15 Like Barr, Durham says Mueller found no conspiracy between Trump and Russia but fails to mention the 2016 Trump Tower meeting to receive dirt on Clinton, sharing of polling data with Russian intel officer Konstantin Kilimnik, and coordinating of messaging with Wikileaks.
16 Durham also ignores Trump’s public statement, “Russia, if you’re listening …” asking them to find Clinton’s missing emails, and the subsequent release of hacked emails hours after the release of the Access Hollywood tape.
17 The result of Durham’s four-year investigation is two failed prosecutions of bit players outside of government and a recommendation for FBI to hire someone to oversee their FISA work.
18 But the Durham Report provides fuel for the false claim that the Russia probe was a hoax. Don’t fall for it. While Mueller found no conspiracy, he concluded that Russia worked to help Trump become president.
19 And rather than report Russia’s overtures to FBI, Trump’s campaign was willing to accept the help.
20 The only winner here is Russia, which succeeded in its mission to get its favored candidate elected, sow discord in the United States, and undermine public trust in American institutions.”
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I agree. I think we should just move to the Kyle Rittenhouse / Daniel Penny phase of our national politics.
Her Twitter bio states she is a 'MSNBC legal analyst'. She does a decent job telling the story you want to hear.
Wow. This is a doozy.She does a decent job of explaining:
The thread:
“1 Durham Report is in. After four years, review of 1 million documents, 490 interviews, his conclusion is that FBI should have opened a preliminary investigation (PI) instead of a full investigation (FI) in 2016.
2 The only difference between FI and PI is the duration and the authorities that may be used. This is a hairsplitting quibble, and one on which FBI officials routinely disagree.
3 Durham also minimizes the reasons FBI was alarmed enough to open a FI in 2016 based on information received from Australian diplomats about Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos.
4 According to Aussies, Papadopoulos said, “Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia that it could assist this process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to Mrs Clinton.”
5 Papadopoulos’s statement came right after the DNC hack. FBI was properly concerned about Russia’s efforts to influence the presidential
election. This was an investigation into RUSSIA.
6 Trump had other concerning ties to Russians: real estate deals, Miss Universe Pageant, loans from Russian lenders, Trump Tower Moscow project. Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort had lobbied for pro-Russian oligarchs.
7 Trump campaign members also had ties to Russia. Mike Flynn was paid $45,000 by Russia Today in 2015 for a speech he gave at a banquet where he sat next to Putin. He later lied to FBI about his calls with the Russian ambassador about sanctions during the transition.
8 Carter Page had been seen meeting with Russian intel officers. It now appears that he was unaware that they were trying to recruit him. Papadopoulos worked to set up a meeting with Putin.
9 Durham criticizes the FBI for relying on the Steele Dossier for the Carter Page FISA. Steele Dossier was not the basis for opening the investigation, but it makes for a useful scapegoat to blur that fact.
10 We now know FBI was unable to corroborate the Steele Dossier, which contained explosive details about Russian kompromat on Trump. That’s 20/20 hindsight. And, importantly, Durham never says the information in it was false, just unconfirmed.
11 In fact, some aspects of Steele Dossier were confirmed by Mueller and DNI: Putin favored Trump and was working to influence the election in Trump’s favor and against Clinton. It also contained unconfirmed information that could have seriously compromised Trump as president.
12 Failing to investigate these ties would have been a breach of duty by FBI. This was an investigation into RUSSIA. Russia was the threat and the focus. Trump was just Russia’s useful idiot.
13 Page FISA also was based on an e-mail altered by an FBI lawyer. That lawyer was identified by IG, not Durham, and he was properly convicted for making false statements. Mueller disregarded all aspects of Page FISA.
14 In addition to criticizing the FBI for opening a FI instead of a PI, Durham also ignores other facts and helps advance the narrative that the Russia investigation was a hoax.
15 Like Barr, Durham says Mueller found no conspiracy between Trump and Russia but fails to mention the 2016 Trump Tower meeting to receive dirt on Clinton, sharing of polling data with Russian intel officer Konstantin Kilimnik, and coordinating of messaging with Wikileaks.
16 Durham also ignores Trump’s public statement, “Russia, if you’re listening …” asking them to find Clinton’s missing emails, and the subsequent release of hacked emails hours after the release of the Access Hollywood tape.
17 The result of Durham’s four-year investigation is two failed prosecutions of bit players outside of government and a recommendation for FBI to hire someone to oversee their FISA work.
18 But the Durham Report provides fuel for the false claim that the Russia probe was a hoax. Don’t fall for it. While Mueller found no conspiracy, he concluded that Russia worked to help Trump become president.
19 And rather than report Russia’s overtures to FBI, Trump’s campaign was willing to accept the help.
20 The only winner here is Russia, which succeeded in its mission to get its favored candidate elected, sow discord in the United States, and undermine public trust in American institutions.”
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@BarbMcQuade: 1 Durham Report is in. After four years, review of 1 million documents, 490 interviews, his conclusion is that FBI should have opened a preliminary investigation (PI) instead of a full investigation (F...…
She’s parroting all the MSM talking points. She omits any of the comments about total lack of evidence. She cites “findings” by Mueller, a partisan hack.
She highlights Trump’s joke about “Russia if you’re listening” like he was deadpan serious.
13 and 9 directly contradict each other.
I wonder why this is so partisan?
Maybe there’s this?
Barbara Lynn McQuade[1] (born December 22, 1964)[2] is an American lawyer who served as the United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan from 2010 to 2017. As part of President Donald Trump's 2017 dismissal of U.S. attorneys, she stepped down in March 2017.[3] She is a professor of law at the University of Michigan Law School[4] and a legal analyst for NBC News and MSNBC.[5]
He's rejecting Durham's actual report to instead go with her COMMENTARY on the Durham report. That tells you all you need to know.
Also, note that little Ms MSNBC conveniently missed in her detailed analysis that the Clinton campaign got THREE foreign countries to contribute to her 2016 campaign in an effort to EXERT INFLUENCE over her campaign IF SHE WON. And Durham concluded that at least ONE of the foreign contributions WAS illegal and hillary KNEW it was and was OK WITH GETTING IT.
That's the bombshell of the report, and she missed it entirely.
I don’t.
I’m not for a weaponized, partisan Federal govt.
I hope this leads to a tear down and rebuild of the FBI. If it exists it should work as intended.
Good point.
Also, she’s dramatically understating that this was about Russia and not Trump. This was only about Trump. Does anyone remember Obama’s response to Romney? Russia was soooo 1980’s until Trump came along.
This is all 100% bs. This is for stupid people who are just now paying attention. #9 made me laugh only a glorified dunce would even post this. Not a TOTAL dunce. Just a dunce on this subjectShe does a decent job of explaining:
The thread:
“1 Durham Report is in. After four years, review of 1 million documents, 490 interviews, his conclusion is that FBI should have opened a preliminary investigation (PI) instead of a full investigation (FI) in 2016.
2 The only difference between FI and PI is the duration and the authorities that may be used. This is a hairsplitting quibble, and one on which FBI officials routinely disagree.
3 Durham also minimizes the reasons FBI was alarmed enough to open a FI in 2016 based on information received from Australian diplomats about Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos.
4 According to Aussies, Papadopoulos said, “Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia that it could assist this process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to Mrs Clinton.”
5 Papadopoulos’s statement came right after the DNC hack. FBI was properly concerned about Russia’s efforts to influence the presidential
election. This was an investigation into RUSSIA.
6 Trump had other concerning ties to Russians: real estate deals, Miss Universe Pageant, loans from Russian lenders, Trump Tower Moscow project. Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort had lobbied for pro-Russian oligarchs.
7 Trump campaign members also had ties to Russia. Mike Flynn was paid $45,000 by Russia Today in 2015 for a speech he gave at a banquet where he sat next to Putin. He later lied to FBI about his calls with the Russian ambassador about sanctions during the transition.
8 Carter Page had been seen meeting with Russian intel officers. It now appears that he was unaware that they were trying to recruit him. Papadopoulos worked to set up a meeting with Putin.
9 Durham criticizes the FBI for relying on the Steele Dossier for the Carter Page FISA. Steele Dossier was not the basis for opening the investigation, but it makes for a useful scapegoat to blur that fact.
10 We now know FBI was unable to corroborate the Steele Dossier, which contained explosive details about Russian kompromat on Trump. That’s 20/20 hindsight. And, importantly, Durham never says the information in it was false, just unconfirmed.
11 In fact, some aspects of Steele Dossier were confirmed by Mueller and DNI: Putin favored Trump and was working to influence the election in Trump’s favor and against Clinton. It also contained unconfirmed information that could have seriously compromised Trump as president.
12 Failing to investigate these ties would have been a breach of duty by FBI. This was an investigation into RUSSIA. Russia was the threat and the focus. Trump was just Russia’s useful idiot.
13 Page FISA also was based on an e-mail altered by an FBI lawyer. That lawyer was identified by IG, not Durham, and he was properly convicted for making false statements. Mueller disregarded all aspects of Page FISA.
14 In addition to criticizing the FBI for opening a FI instead of a PI, Durham also ignores other facts and helps advance the narrative that the Russia investigation was a hoax.
15 Like Barr, Durham says Mueller found no conspiracy between Trump and Russia but fails to mention the 2016 Trump Tower meeting to receive dirt on Clinton, sharing of polling data with Russian intel officer Konstantin Kilimnik, and coordinating of messaging with Wikileaks.
16 Durham also ignores Trump’s public statement, “Russia, if you’re listening …” asking them to find Clinton’s missing emails, and the subsequent release of hacked emails hours after the release of the Access Hollywood tape.
17 The result of Durham’s four-year investigation is two failed prosecutions of bit players outside of government and a recommendation for FBI to hire someone to oversee their FISA work.
18 But the Durham Report provides fuel for the false claim that the Russia probe was a hoax. Don’t fall for it. While Mueller found no conspiracy, he concluded that Russia worked to help Trump become president.
19 And rather than report Russia’s overtures to FBI, Trump’s campaign was willing to accept the help.
20 The only winner here is Russia, which succeeded in its mission to get its favored candidate elected, sow discord in the United States, and undermine public trust in American institutions.”
Thread by @BarbMcQuade on Thread Reader App
@BarbMcQuade: 1 Durham Report is in. After four years, review of 1 million documents, 490 interviews, his conclusion is that FBI should have opened a preliminary investigation (PI) instead of a full investigation (F...…
Additionally, saw a clip Jesse Watters played last night from a 2016 interview with obama where obama told Fox that he had no input or contact with his FBI Director or CIA director into current investigations. Which we know from the Durham Report was a bald-faced lie, his CIA director briefed obama AND his VP that hillary MADE UP the Trump-Russia collusion story and obama DID NOTHING.
Neither did brennan.
Neither did comey.
But the MSNBC tells gullible voters like @Uniformed_ReRe that the REAL takeaway from the Durham Report was that this does NOT clear Trump of colluding with Russia.
This is propaganda that would make Goebbels jealous.
I recommend American Marxism by Mark R. Levin.
There are some posters I’d expect this from, but you’re more honest than this @Uniformed_ReRe
I'm not getting into this pissing contest but Brennan and Clapper are both Deep State lackeys that need to see jail time WAY before they take their last breath.
Weak. Can't argue the facts so jump straight to *it's a Dem* bail out.
And LOL at calling Mueller, a lifelong Pub, a partisan hack. How ironic.
I argued the facts before calling out that she’s got a major axe to grind and a bad case of TDS.
He was appointed by Bush. Bush is not and was never a conservative.
I thought the same, until I saw him claim that the republican and democratic parties magically switched sides after the Civil Rights Act passed. His logic was that the dems were the racists, and they were so outraged that the Civil Rights Act passed, so they became pubs.
It made zero sense, but he said that proved that the pubs were the racists, not the dems that tried to deny blacks their civil rights.
We asked him to give us a list of the politicians that flipped from dem to pub after the Civil Rights Act was passed, and he could not. He then moved the goalposts and said he meant VOTERS switched parties. He said the South flipped from dem to pub immediately following the passage of the Civil Rights Act.
Again, facts were not on his side. While it's true that many Southern states went from being deep blue to deep red, this didn't happen in the 60s, it happened gradually over time. Alabama, for instance, didn't turn red till the early 90s. Florida didn't into the 80s IIRC.
But rere claimed it happened because of the South being full of racists that couldn't stand that blacks would have Civil Rights.
It made no sense on any intellectual level but he stands by it, to this day.
No you didn't. And calling Mueller a partisan hack just makes you sound ignorant.
Nothing new though.
And LOL at thinking Trump is conservative. That's hilarious.
Why are you replying to yourself?
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