Fine, security was lax.
So? Does that excuse the people who stormed the Capitol? Should they not be charged?
Seems like you sing a different tune with the BLM rioters. I wonder why……..
Tucker showing 6 Jan hoax
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So? Does that excuse the people who stormed the Capitol? Should they not be charged?
Seems like you sing a different tune with the BLM rioters. I wonder why……..
You're never supposed to harken back to the original argument when gaslighting, you know better.
The original argument was about your 24 hour flip flop from "Tucker is a known liar, I can't understand why you guys trust him (on this matter)" to "he may not be lying here, I haven't 'looked into it'".
The narrative and the half-truths within it. Half...lol, I'm being generous.
If you walked into a building after a police officer opened the door for you, he walked around with you and then later you were arrested, charged with a felony and then sent to prison, would you be bothered?
Punchline...there was video evidence of the above but it was suppressed during your trial where you were found guilty or plead guilty because the flipping video was suppressed. Still believe that you got justice???
He’s not lying here. He’s just intentionally misrepresenting what really went on with selective editing. Theres a difference.
Obviously it fits right into what the gullible Trumpers want to hear. So he’s being intellectually dishonest.
Was J6 committee being intellectually dishonest when they told us that Officer Sicknick was murdered?
You specifically were outraged. How do you now feel knowing that they used him, and indeed his remains, as a political prop?
If it's done nothing else, the release of this video has cleared this up. I didn't know Officer Sicknick but I can't help but believe that he would be glad that BS was exposed.
Thanks to Tucker's blockbuster reporting, that will likely win him a Pulitzer (and rightly so), let's re-examine what we now know about what REALLY happened on Jan 6th, 2021:
1 - A rally near the capitol was planned, and a permit was legally obtained to hold that rally near the capitol.
2 - In anticipation of the rally, additional security was requested, and denied. President Trump offered to send more troops in for security, that was also denied.
3 - President Trump told his supporters to go IN PEACE to the capitol rally. Thank you to Tucker for showing that video and clearly the air. You are a true patriot.
4 - We now know that federal operatives were planted in the crowds acting as Trump supporters. We also know that those operatives both encouraged the crowd to storm the capitol, but also helped them go inside.
5 - Thanks to Tucker's interview with Officer Tarek Johnson, we know that he requested the removal of the Senators and Rrepresentatives in Congress repeatedly and WAS NEVER GIVEN PERMISSION TO REMOVE THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM THE BUILDING. He finally did it himself, without being given permission. It's hard to push the 'we were trapped' narrative if you easily escape, I guess.
6 - The vast (99%) majority of the people inside the capitol were completely harmless. They were 'sightseers' as Tucker called them, and as the video proved. Police were happy to escort 'QAnon Shaman' all over the capitol building. At one point, the video shows that he walks into a crowd of NINE police officers, and they all step aside and let him pass, untouched. If he had broken any laws, he could have been arrested at any time as he was clearly unarmed. Yet the police did nothing, they acted as tour guides for him.
7 - We learned that Ray Epps lied when he testified that he had left the capitol by the time he had texted his nephew. Tucker found he was still there for at least a half hour later.
8 - Tucker's reporting found another lie: Officer Sicknick alive and well, even tho the dems claimed he was killed by Trump supporters on Jan 6th.
The evidence Tucker showed did prove one thing tho: There was an attempted insurrection on Jan 6th. But it was by dems, not by Trump supporters. What do we always say the dems do? They always accuse their enemies of doing the things they are doing.
@RayGravesGhost @kalimgoodman @BSC911 all happily supporting insurrectionists in this thread. Now you see why the dems are all attacking Tucker....he just exposed their plot.
1 - A rally near the capitol was planned, and a permit was legally obtained to hold that rally near the capitol.
2 - In anticipation of the rally, additional security was requested, and denied. President Trump offered to send more troops in for security, that was also denied.
3 - President Trump told his supporters to go IN PEACE to the capitol rally. Thank you to Tucker for showing that video and clearly the air. You are a true patriot.
4 - We now know that federal operatives were planted in the crowds acting as Trump supporters. We also know that those operatives both encouraged the crowd to storm the capitol, but also helped them go inside.
5 - Thanks to Tucker's interview with Officer Tarek Johnson, we know that he requested the removal of the Senators and Rrepresentatives in Congress repeatedly and WAS NEVER GIVEN PERMISSION TO REMOVE THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM THE BUILDING. He finally did it himself, without being given permission. It's hard to push the 'we were trapped' narrative if you easily escape, I guess.
6 - The vast (99%) majority of the people inside the capitol were completely harmless. They were 'sightseers' as Tucker called them, and as the video proved. Police were happy to escort 'QAnon Shaman' all over the capitol building. At one point, the video shows that he walks into a crowd of NINE police officers, and they all step aside and let him pass, untouched. If he had broken any laws, he could have been arrested at any time as he was clearly unarmed. Yet the police did nothing, they acted as tour guides for him.
7 - We learned that Ray Epps lied when he testified that he had left the capitol by the time he had texted his nephew. Tucker found he was still there for at least a half hour later.
8 - Tucker's reporting found another lie: Officer Sicknick alive and well, even tho the dems claimed he was killed by Trump supporters on Jan 6th.
The evidence Tucker showed did prove one thing tho: There was an attempted insurrection on Jan 6th. But it was by dems, not by Trump supporters. What do we always say the dems do? They always accuse their enemies of doing the things they are doing.
@RayGravesGhost @kalimgoodman @BSC911 all happily supporting insurrectionists in this thread. Now you see why the dems are all attacking Tucker....he just exposed their plot.
Look at the way the Jan6 Committee butcher and manipulated the videos. Just Imagine what the MSM would have done with it, and their sheep would be bleating it forever.
Oh no doubt. This was the solution to that issue that I agreed with.
That resolves the issue. The originals are there to be seen by all.
Yes, the MSM could have taken them, chopped them up and do all the things you're referring to. They can do the same with the video that Tucker is releasing.
I think this has been planned for a while. Give Tucker access to the footage and let him show the worst of the worst. Enough evidence to prove the dems lied about what happened.
Public outcry is already happening. Public is demanding to get access to EVERYTHING.
Tucker said last night on air that EVERYONE should have access to ALL of the tapes.
I think that's coming. Soon.
Public outcry is already happening. Public is demanding to get access to EVERYTHING.
Tucker said last night on air that EVERYONE should have access to ALL of the tapes.
I think that's coming. Soon.
Did the capitol boy scouts burn down and pillage the capitol? Does BLM and Antifa generally observe the velvet ropes? 😂
The people who actually committed crimes should absolutely be charged. That's means anyone that breached an entrance or assaulted a LEO, committed vandalism or property damage, so we're clear.
Who said they shouldn't?
Correct. The issue here is that the FBI charged hundreds for simply being there. And there would have been more arrests if they could have identified and tracked them down. Hopefully the footage will expose agents in a red flag operation. I think that is what they are REALLY afraid of, not building security. If the entire country views the footage, there's someone somewhere who knows who those agents are.
I’m fine with giving stiff prison sentences to those protesters who destroyed federal property and / or assaulted police officers.
What I’m not fine with is giving harsh sentences to those who basically walked in after the doors were opened and walked around like tourists. I’m also not fine with the DOJ withholding exculpatory evidence that would justify a lighter or even no prison sentence.
However, the DOJ has a narrative to maintain (insurrection, assault on our democracy, etc) and they are no doubt troubled to have contrary evidence that disturbs that narrative.
Well, Ghost for one.
I agree with your statement. But that gets back to my original question. What does Tucker show, that some of the protestors weren’t violent? Sure, we all knew that already.
It’s very similar to some of the BLM protests. Sure, most of the protestors weren’t violent. That doesn’t excuse the behavior of the ones who were. Did Tucker show any of those people, or is he trying to play three card Monty. Look over here at these nice people. Any protest that turns violent is inexcusable.
And the whole “lax security” issue is just a red herring.
😂 Did you just conveniently ignore the testimony from the guy in charge of Capitol police who was thrown to the wolves by his superiors? 😂 This was PLANNED to go down like this,
I’m cool with that. And yes, it very definitely was an insurrection by many (not all) of the people at the rally whose goal was to “stop the steal.” I shudder to think what would have happened had some of those people gotten ahold of Pence and/or Pelosi. They had no problems beating on law enforcement. .
Tucker showed time stamped video?
Please provide the link
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...arlson-claims-officer-brian-sicknic-rcna73813
Capitol Police chief tears into Tucker Carlson for claims about Officer Brian Sicknick
The Fox News host was also criticized by Sicknick's partner and family members, who said Carlson had curated "footage that supports his delusional views" of the Jan. 6 insurrectionChief Medical Examiner Francisco Diaz said in April 2021 that an autopsy revealed that Sicknick died of natural causes after he had two strokes at the base of the brainstem that were caused by a blood clot. Sicknick returned to his office after the riot and collapsed and died at a hospital about eight hours later, Capitol Police have said.
Two men arrested in the assault on Sicknick have been sentenced. One admitted to having sprayed Sicknick with a chemical irritant, and the other pleaded guilty to two misdemeanors in a deal with the government. Sicknick’s family has contended that the fighting with rioters contributed directly to his stroke.
Carlson "is not a doctor or a mental health professional and does not have the expertise to understand how one severe traumatic event can so significantly impact the body and brain,” she said. “For him to act as an expert is laughable.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...arlson-claims-officer-brian-sicknic-rcna73813
Manger, who took over as Capitol Police chief in July 2021, said in his letter to rank-and-file members that Carlson's opinion program "never reached out to the Department to provide accurate context." He said Carlson falsely alleged that Capitol Police officers helped the rioters and acted as "tour guides" on Jan. 6.
"This is outrageous and false. This Department stands by the officers in the video that was shown last night. I don’t have to remind you how outnumbered our officers were on January 6," Manger said. "You fought like hell on January 6 and risked your lives to protect the Constitution and everything this country stands for. You, along with our law enforcement partners, saved every Member of Congress and their staff."
Funny that security was "lax" when the trump administration had control over almost all of it
He's FOS of BS and needs to go. Most of us have known this for quite some time.
Ask the J6 committee for it...they have it. Not only is it time stamped, there's evidence that the J6 committee viewed it. They knew they were lying. They lied to you on purpose.
Anyone who sprayed or assaulted Officer Sicknick in any way should be charged for it.
However, there's no doubt that the J6 committee played fast and loose with the facts and then attempted to keep the video secret.
That's what I said earlier. Nothing was new. Just a new video of the "good" stuff. He made sure he didn't show any of a "bad" stuff. He had an agenda and tried to enforce it.
"Johnson isn’t a Republican or Trump supporter. He voted for Biden. His former boss, Yogananda Pittman, received praise from Nancy Pelosi. As Tucker noted, Pittman boasted about how her department saved the country though no one in the chain of command appeared to give their officers much of anything regarding support. Pittman later became chief of security for UC Berkeley, not far from Pelosi’s congressional district.
Johnson was never asked to testify before the January 6 committee, maybe because he would have exposed how Capitol Police were an unorganized and unprepared mess that day."
He actually did show the 'bad' stuff. He showed it FIRST, as an example of how the dems lied to you, to me, to everyone.
He showed us what the dems showed us....then showed us what they DIDN'T show us.
He showed us the truth. That's why you hate him.
That's not gaslighting. I said he's a known liar and he may not be lying on this, BOTH can be true. Just like a QB can be known to be inaccurate but he could have an accurate game. Man you try to hard to fight with me, smh.
And it wasn't even his MAGA hat. A Trump supporter put it on his head and he asked if he could keep it cause he knew it would make it easier for him to traverse the crowd and move people to safety.
"Johnson isn’t a Republican or Trump supporter. He voted for Biden. His former boss, Yogananda Pittman, received praise from Nancy Pelosi. As Tucker noted, Pittman boasted about how her department saved the country though no one in the chain of command appeared to give their officers much of anything regarding support. Pittman later became chief of security for UC Berkeley, not far from Pelosi’s congressional district.
Johnson was never asked to testify before the January 6 committee, maybe because he would have exposed how Capitol Police were an unorganized and unprepared mess that day."
Dems eat anyone that stands in their way. Even their own.
So the FBI made Trump supporters attack the cops, piss/shit in the capital, scream hang Mike Pence? So the Trump supporter is that gullible and weak? The Trump supporter just follow the lead of others? That's your position on this?
Trump? WTH???
This has nothing to do with Trump...at least not for me.
It's about helping with prosecution for those who deserve it and about not prosecuting others who don't deserve it.
He did show video of the bad stuff. You can clearly see some of the people breaking windows and doors in some video and then forcing their way in.
So your statement here is untrue.
Actually I think you might be missing a key point.
Even if the Cap Police didn't review the tapes Tucker showed, what is all you've seen from the J6 committee? It's been the part where the actual methods and tactics were on full display. It's been all the most violent parts of the day.
How is Tucker showing officers unlocking doors to get the "Shaman" into Senate Chambers, or people politely respecting a rope line, risking exposure of secret methods and security tactics?
LOL at all the trolls shitting themselves ITT.
Tucker is the GOAT. He's got proof of how evil the dems are, and he's rubbing their noses in it, in primetime.
Tucker is the GOAT. He's got proof of how evil the dems are, and he's rubbing their noses in it, in primetime.
When only the leftists are talking about Trump, you know who's winning.
This is about how dishonest and evil the J6 committee - and more broadly democrats - are.
They will literally do or say anything to acquire and keep power. And their supporters couldn't care less, as long as they get their way and stick it to the evil, racist, homophobic deplorables.
This issue, above many, shows me how lost this country really is. I honestly thought we'd see some concession now that both sides of that day are public knowledge. Instead they're doubling down.
It's plainly exposing the J6 committee's "methods of propaganda". Between that and exposing red flag FBI agents, they are terrified. 😂
You gaslighted to another subject, but if I remind you of that I'm letting you gaslight again. I'm not stupid.
You also ignored my questions about context. Context is critical in both spoken and written communication.
For example, if I walked into a sauna and said to you "Man it's so hot" would you think I was talking about the temp of the sauna or the weather outside?
Now, do you understand how context applies to you telling us 'Tucker is a liar and you can't believe we trust him' - especially since it was the 7th post in a thread about his review of the footage?
Excellent point. This is why I love watching a battle of wits between you and @kalimgoodman
@kalimgoodman do you care to answer this? If the capitol police were worried about security, why did they allow the dems to show all the ways that protesters were able to enter the capitol building? That's the DEFINITION of a security concern.
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