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The one thing I like about Desantis the most

As his hospitals fill up.

What country does Florida share a border with? Cuba?

What an idiot.
As his hospitals fill up.

What country does Florida share a border with? Cuba?

What an idiot.

#fakenews from the lying #fakenews media and lying Biden regime

listen to the hospital CEO in Florida in this interview


 
@nail1988 'ed head

Florida GOP Gov. DeSantis Fires Back at Biden: 'Do Your Job'

After President Joe Biden tried to deflect blame for rising COVID cases onto Republican governors like Florida's GOP Gov. Ron DeSantis, DeSantis fired back, telling the president pointedly to "do your job."

"Why don't you do your job?" DeSantis told reporters on Wednesday, saving his heated remarks for the very end of an 18-plus-minute news conference. "Why don't you get this border secure?

"And until you do that, I don't want to hear a blip about COVID from you."

this is how it’s done. He just woodshedded the vegetable 🌽

compare that to the pathetic 18 RINO cowards in the Senate-trying to sell Murica out passing this phony infrastructure bill with the Marxist regime as our southern border in under siege. 🤬
 
this is how it’s done. He just woodshedded the vegetable 🌽

compare that to the pathetic 18 RINO cowards in the Senate-trying to sell Murica out passing this phony infrastructure bill with the Marxist regime as our southern border in under siege. 🤬
Notice how DeSantis doesn't need his Lt Governor by his side the same way The Pedo Groper Joe always has CumAla Harris to baby sit him.



 
The fraudulent Jo-Ho's allow millions of criminal illegal aliens, with Co-V and many other contactable diseases, to come pouring untested and unabated over the Southern Border. This inspires the other socialist Rat traitors to accuse FL & TX of being the cause of the spiking Communist Red Chinese Kung Flu cases.

Typical of the socialist traitor Rats to use yet another BIG LIE against anyone that supports and defends the Constitution and FREEDOM....
So...illegal aliens are pouring over the Mexican border into FLORIDA? You might want to check out a map before spouting that one again.

Also, this is the reason that the unvaccinated MAGAts are infesting hospital emergency rooms? Because...illegal aliens?

Such a shame they didn't all listen to you and take that HCQ a few weeks ago. They'd be sitting pretty right now. 🤣
 
Be afraid, be very afraid. If there ever was a time to get vaccinated and wear a mask, this is it. There’s nothing as bad as catching the Rona from an illegal.

the vegetable should be impeached for this.

Images of migrant center in Donna, Texas show cramped conditions as border numbers surge​





 



You sure that isn’t Florida? DeSantis says they are taking over.

Funny he doesn’t talk about the illegal Cubans though. Hmmmmm.
 
DeSantis RAWKS shoots the bird at the Vegetable

DeSantis Secures Antibody Doses On His Own, Skirting Biden’s Reduction Of Lifesaving Treatment​




 
You sure that isn’t Florida? DeSantis says they are taking over.

Funny he doesn’t talk about the illegal Cubans though. Hmmmmm.
You are such a f'ing dumbass. Cubans are ACTUALLY fleeing communism, true REFUGEES. They are not here for free shit. Get out of your retarded effing bubble sometime, and learn some realities. Have you ever had a conversation with a Cuban refugee? GD you are stupid, and that's putting it lightly.

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The left wonders why so many of us absolutely hate the idea of nationalized health care. How can anyone follow a story like this and still wonder why it's incredibly stupid and incredibly dangerous. Not just for us but for them as well.
Zer0 was honest or just plain callous/arrogant enough to answer that one. He is sending grandma home with pain meds to die because of her age. Lady in question was I believe in her 90s and got heart surgery. It was a success and I think she was still alive when the question was asked by her daughter. Under his system she would not have been allowed to have the surgery. Death panels by some euphemistic name.

Nationalized HC is rationed HC with bureaucrats and number crunchers deciding who lives and dies.

Not all 90 year olds are the same health wise but under such a scheme they are all destined for the glue factory when their utility to society is up. You are then a serf to the collective and just a number to be crunched.

That is the antithesis of Americanism. SCOTUS should have shot it down on just those grounds alone. Its called original intent. The intent is that the individual is sovereign and has a right to life.
 
Zer0 was honest or just plain callous/arrogant enough to answer that one. He is sending grandma home with pain meds to die because of her age. Lady in question was I believe in her 90s and got heart surgery. It was a success and I think she was still alive when the question was asked by her daughter. Under his system she would not have been allowed to have the surgery. Death panels by some euphemistic name.

Nationalized HC is rationed HC with bureaucrats and number crunchers deciding who lives and dies.

Not all 90 year olds are the same health wise but under such a scheme they are all destined for the glue factory when their utility to society is up. You are then a serf to the collective and just a number to be crunched.

That is the antithesis of Americanism. SCOTUS should have shot it down on just those grounds alone. Its called original intent. The intent is that the individual is sovereign and has a right to life.
And this differs from what we have now exactly how?

I hurt my shoulder recently, the Orthopedist wanted an MRI, the insurance company said no. Somehow if it's people trying to save a buck at the expense of my health to increase profits that's ok, but making healthcare decisions because there is only so much healthcare to go around is horribly wrong?

You are all sheep. TRY to think for yourselves for 5 minutes. Just once. For the novelty, if nothing else.
 
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And this differs from what we have now exactly how?

I hurt my shoulder recently, the Orthopedist wanted an MRI, the insurance company said no. Somehow if it's people trying to save a buck at the expense of my health to increase profits that's ok, but making healthcare decisions because there is only so much healthcare to go around is horribly wrong?

You are all sheep. TRY to think for yourselves for 5 minutes. Just once. For the novelty, if nothing else.
I think it's you that isn't very bright. Have your orthopedist get clearance for surgery on your shoulder through your insurance company. The insurance company will order the MRI for you. 😂
 
And this differs from what we have now exactly how?

I hurt my shoulder recently, the Orthopedist wanted an MRI, the insurance company said no. Somehow if it's people trying to save a buck at the expense of my health to increase profits that's ok, but making healthcare decisions because there is only so much healthcare to go around is horribly wrong?

You are all sheep. TRY to think for yourselves for 5 minutes. Just once. For the novelty, if nothing else.
Nationalized HC is rationed HC with bureaucrats and number crunchers deciding who lives and dies.

Call me back when your shoulder injury becomes a matter of life or death.
70% of the monoclonal antibody supply was being consumed by Florida, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia and Louisiana....with the exception of Georgia all states that voted against Biden, have Rep Governors and are opposing vaccine mandates.
Mainstream media is spinning this as (these are actual headlines)...

Biden administration moves to avoid shortages of Covid-19 monoclonal antibody treatments​

Yet...Regeneron is on record stating that there is no shortage of the monoclonal antibody treatment.
You do the math.
 
Biden administration moves to avoid shortages of Covid-19 monoclonal antibody treatments
Yet...Regeneron is on record stating that there is no shortage of the monoclonal antibody treatment.
You do the math.
Hmmm........this administration seems to be working extremely hard to limit an alternative treatment to their mandatory vaccines. Is this all about money or control, or both?
 
Hmmm........this administration seems to be working extremely hard to limit an alternative treatment to their mandatory vaccines. Is this all about money or control, or both?
Probably a little of both but mostly it's about making these Republican Governors look bad and get them under control (especially Desantis) by using human lives as leverage...but let's keep filing articles of impeachment against Trump about phone calls to foreign leaders and whether or not Trump influenced guys to storm the Capitol to take selfies.
 
And this differs from what we have now exactly how?

I hurt my shoulder recently, the Orthopedist wanted an MRI, the insurance company said no. Somehow if it's people trying to save a buck at the expense of my health to increase profits that's ok, but making healthcare decisions because there is only so much healthcare to go around is horribly wrong?

You are all sheep. TRY to think for yourselves for 5 minutes. Just once. For the novelty, if nothing else.

Some company trying to save a buck is still less evil than a decision of a life saving treatment being approved or denied based on partisan bullshit.

At least with the financial decision, you can persuade them based on their company's liability issues. Partisanship is emotional and that's a much more difficult, and less intelligent, play.
 
Some company trying to save a buck is still less evil than a decision of a life saving treatment being approved or denied based on partisan bullshit.

At least with the financial decision, you can persuade them based on their company's liability issues. Partisanship is emotional and that's a much more difficult, and less intelligent, play.
So insurance company panel making life and death decisions (not saying mine was, but they do) is ok, but a government panel doing it is horrible in some way?

Let's get past the paranoia and see that your position makes no sense.
 
So insurance company panel making life and death decisions (not saying mine was, but they do) is ok, but a government panel doing it is horrible in some way?

Let's get past the paranoia and see that your position makes no sense.
My question to you is this: With private insurance if they try to f*ck me, I can always change insurance.
If the government is the only option, then what do I do?
 
My question to you is this: With private insurance if they try to f*ck me, I can always change insurance.
If the government is the only option, then what do I do?
Tell me which insurance company isn't f*cking everyone as hard as they can, so I can get a policy there.
 
So insurance company panel making life and death decisions (not saying mine was, but they do) is ok, but a government panel doing it is horrible in some way?

Let's get past the paranoia and see that your position makes no sense.
Not being an ass, can you give us an example of when the government hasn’t wasted money on anything? Literally, everything they try to control turns to shit.
 
Tell me which insurance company isn't f*cking everyone as hard as they can, so I can get a policy there.
As someone who's been in Tri-Care, the government f*cks you hardest. I remember when I was a young PFC i couldn't even go to BAS unless my Corporal thought I was sick.

Ask me how often that happened.
 
So insurance company panel making life and death decisions (not saying mine was, but they do) is ok, but a government panel doing it is horrible in some way?

Let's get past the paranoia and see that your position makes no sense.

I thought that I explained this...and I never said it was ok.

I said that financial was cleaner than emotional. If you think otherwise, agree to disagree. In a perfect world an accountant is never making a decision over a doctor...and the liability of those decisions will curb that type of behavior imo.
 
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I thought that I explained this...and I never said it was ok.
I said that financial was cleaner than emotional. If you think otherwise, agree to disagree. In a perfect world an accountant is never making a decision over a doctor...and the liability of those decisions will curb that type of behavior imo.
Ouch........not sure if it was intentional, but that's gonna leave a mark. 😂
 
I thought that I explained this...and I never said it was ok.

I said that financial was cleaner than emotional. If you think otherwise, agree to disagree. In a perfect world an accountant is never making a decision over a doctor...and the liability of those decisions will curb that type of behavior imo.
It wouldn't be an accountant, it would be an actuary. Well, ok, it might be both.

And while we don't know the criteria that the government panel would use, we know that the insurance decision will be at least in part (IMO "primarily") financial.
 
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It wouldn't be an accountant, it would be an actuary. Well, ok, it might be both.

A distinction without difference when making financial decisions on medical treatment. My nephew is an actuary for an insurance firm.


And while we don't know the criteria that the government panel would use, we know that the insurance decision will be at least in part (IMO "primarily") financial.

We are watching this example of a government panel with power over who gets treatment. It's not going well imo.

Very, VERY few things get better when the government gets involved. I think that you believe differently and we will just have to agree to (vehemently) disagree on this one. It's not unlike when the IRS gets overly political.

Greed is good. Insurance companies cut cost for profitability and that can be good on two fronts...and bad on one as well, of course. The watchdog is in liability, which I would absolutely favor empowering, so that reasonable treatment isn't denied simply because of said profit.

The government screws up everything they touch. It's absolutely inevitable.
 
I didn't bother to read the posts other than the original one that started this thread...

So I guess being "proactive" but 100% wrong & undemocratic is something to like in a governor?

By that measure...I guess "DeathSantis" is likeable



The 90-page decision by U.S. District Judge Mark Walker in Tallahassee found the recently-enacted law "vague and overbroad" and amounted to an assault on First Amendment rights of free speech and assembly as well as the Constitution's due process protections.

People engaged in peaceful protest or innocently in the same area when a demonstration turned violent could face criminal charges and stiff penalties under the law, the judge said.

"If this court does not enjoin the statute's enforcement, the lawless actions of a few rogue individuals could effectively criminalize the protected speech of hundreds, if not thousands, of law-abiding Floridians," Walker wrote.

"Because it is unclear whether a person must share an intent to do violence and because it is unclear what it means to participate, the statute can plausibly be read to criminalize continuing to protest after violence occurs, even if the protestors are not involved in, and do not support, the violence," Walker wrote. "The statute can also be read to criminalize other expressive activity, like remaining at the scene of a protest turned violent to film the police reaction."
 
A distinction without difference when making financial decisions on medical treatment. My nephew is an actuary for an insurance firm.




We are watching this example of a government panel with power over who gets treatment. It's not going well imo.

Very, VERY few things get better when the government gets involved. I think that you believe differently and we will just have to agree to (vehemently) disagree on this one. It's not unlike when the IRS gets overly political.

Greed is good. Insurance companies cut cost for profitability and that can be good on two fronts...and bad on one as well, of course. The watchdog is in liability, which I would absolutely favor empowering, so that reasonable treatment isn't denied simply because of said profit.

The government screws up everything they touch. It's absolutely inevitable.
An accountant would look at the payouts for the year and, while always tight, would get tighter if those payouts were over budget.

An actuary would look at the age and health of the person and compare it to the actuarial tables to determine how much longer the person is likely to live, and the value of the life they have left, and compare that to the cost of the procedure.

I would say there is a difference. The accountant really has no business being on the panel. The budget should be irrelevant to the discussion on an individual case. The actuary, while they shouldn't be the decision maker, actually has some data that could be of use, although, in most cases the medical opinion should be in line with the actuary, as the people the actuary would reject for being too old for the procedure to be worth the cost the doctors should also reject for the patient being too old to benefit from the procedure (or even to likely survive it).
 
An accountant would look at the payouts for the year and, while always tight, would get tighter if those payouts were over budget.

An actuary would look at the age and health of the person and compare it to the actuarial tables to determine how much longer the person is likely to live, and the value of the life they have left, and compare that to the cost of the procedure.

I would say there is a difference. The accountant really has no business being on the panel. The budget should be irrelevant to the discussion on an individual case. The actuary, while they shouldn't be the decision maker, actually has some data that could be of use, although, in most cases the medical opinion should be in line with the actuary, as the people the actuary would reject for being too old for the procedure to be worth the cost the doctors should also reject for the patient being too old to benefit from the procedure (or even to likely survive it).

Yea, I know what actuaries and accountants do. 😂

The overriding point...cutting the supply of life saving treatment to states that predominantly voted for the other party is ridiculous. And it is ONE OF THE REASONS I am opposed to nationalized health-care.
 
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Yea, I know what actuaries and accountants do. 😂

The overriding point...cutting the supply of life saving treatment to states that predominantly voted for the other party is ridiculous. And it is ONE OF THE REASONS I am opposed to nationalized health-care.
Even the government knows nationalized health care is stupid. Otherwise, insurance companies wouldn't be running Medicare for all practical purposes. Most people qualified for it do NOT use traditional Medicare, and there is a reason.
 
I didn't bother to read the posts other than the original one that started this thread...

So I guess being "proactive" but 100% wrong & undemocratic is something to like in a governor?

By that measure...I guess "DeathSantis" is likeable



The 90-page decision by U.S. District Judge Mark Walker in Tallahassee found the recently-enacted law "vague and overbroad" and amounted to an assault on First Amendment rights of free speech and assembly as well as the Constitution's due process protections.

People engaged in peaceful protest or innocently in the same area when a demonstration turned violent could face criminal charges and stiff penalties under the law, the judge said.

"If this court does not enjoin the statute's enforcement, the lawless actions of a few rogue individuals could effectively criminalize the protected speech of hundreds, if not thousands, of law-abiding Floridians," Walker wrote.

"Because it is unclear whether a person must share an intent to do violence and because it is unclear what it means to participate, the statute can plausibly be read to criminalize continuing to protest after violence occurs, even if the protestors are not involved in, and do not support, the violence," Walker wrote. "The statute can also be read to criminalize other expressive activity, like remaining at the scene of a protest turned violent to film the police reaction."

So Florida towns should burn like the Rat controlled cities and states that hosted Violent Riots by BLM and ANTIFA Domestic Terrorists???

I'd trust Desantis to be fair and objective long before I'd trust any of the Rats.


And where was this judge concerning the Political Prisoners taken on Jan 6th in DC, that are still languishing in solitary confinement in jails?

Floyd and other criminals are mourned over, Police Officers are tried and jailed, while the murdered unarmed Female Vet at the Capital is forgotten, no one was even investigated or tried over her death....
 

DeSantis Administration Fines County $3.5 Million for Firing Employees over Vaccine Mandate​





The man holds to his Honor and the Constitution, and I will vote for him for any office that he runs for.

JMOHO of course, but he's the BEST Governor in the U.S., with only the TX Gov as the closest 2nd....
 

Florida Rate Of COVID Infections Third Lowest In U.S. In Last Week​




 
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